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Zanimljivo je kako situacija na topiku prati situaciju na frontu u malom... Putin objavio mobilizaciju, nove ali neiskusne snage se automatski odazivaju i kreću da brljetaju po temi sa starim i prevazieđenim oruž.. argumentima iz doba CCCP i odmah popiju metak. Sa druge strane, vraćaju se davno zarobljeni veterani na obe strane, razmenjeni u najnovijoj razmeni zarobljenika. A u Moskvi, još jedan banovan Ukratko, intenzivira se.

Krenulo trpanje Firera povodom toga...

Rusija je dozivela poraz u Ukrajini, a sada ce Putin da dozivi poraz u Rusiji.

definiši "na poslu" 😏 ps. e moj ime uđoka...

ništa nije bespotrebno ako je smešno. potpuno je normalno da ti se ne svidi doduše, pa sve super. Zato sam ja i sugerisao Estoniju, Talin je laganih 2h brodom do Helsinkija, još bi FIBA mogla da napravi neki promo sa igračima na brodu itd. Ni Švedska ne bi bila mimo svega. Iskreno meni je pun q ovih "polivalentnih" Evrobasket organizacija, dajte sve u jedno i a u q.

A debila...

Na spominjanje nuklearnog rata na više mesta čujem ili čitam "nije Putin baš toliko lud". Isti komentari su se čuli i kada je krenuo da gomila vojsku oko ukrajinske granice. Dakle razloge za nadu da neće sve otići dođavola treba tražiti na drugim stranama, ne u Putinovoj ne-ludosti.

Zar nije bilo sad na ovom EP da su Nemci propustili da organizuju Slovencima bus do hale pa su ovi morali da idu taksijem?

Aj ne blamiraj se više...

Rusofili po mrežama pizde zbog oslobađanja azovaca. Ne mogu da veruju šta je Putin dozvolio. Porušio im kulu od peska zvanu "ukrajinci nacisti" pa ne znaju više šta je realnost. Propade dobar odjek od mobilizacije. A najviše pizde što Rusi to nisu ni objavili nego saznaju o tome od Zelenskog uživo i sa Ukrajinskih medija 🙂

Krug se polako zatvara.

Dobra mu ova mobilizacija u krajevima gdje zive druge etnicke grupe. Elegantna metoda "ciscenja" neruskog stanovnistva al jok nema bolesni rezim u Kremlju takve ideje o manje i vise vrijednim nacijama i rasama.

Komentar jedne Ruskinje me jako podsetio na ”nesto” vec vidjeno: ”Problem mnogih Rusa nije sam rat, vec to sto misle da su dosadasnji rezultati jako losi.”

A koliko smo prosle godine kupili sezonskih, a koliko navijaci partizana? Pa bar prosle godine ti je bar trener bio potaman. Ja sam i prosle godine kupio sezonsku iako sam znao da necu moci ni na jednu utakmicu da odem, ali ja sam u mogucnosti da uradim tako nesto. Mozda smo mogli da kupimo jos nekog beka da imamo 10000 prodatih sezonskih? Kazes da je treneru neko sastavljao tim, pa ako je tako, sto je prihvatio taj tim? Ja sam odgledao intervju sa Nedovicem (a mozes i ti, stavio sam ga juce) gde on kaze, na pitanje da je dolazio bez da zna ko ce biti trener, da je znao ko ce biti trener, sto bi znacilo da je i trener znao ko dolazi. Znaci bice mucna sezona, za razliku od prosle. Da nisu sklonili ruske timove bili bi medju poslednje 3 ekipe, a u ABA je bilo gusto posle 1:1. Ja jedva cekam da gledam ovaj tim sa trenerom pocetnikom i nadam se da ce odigrati kako ja mislim da ovaj tim moze. Po meni, jedini problem je sto imamo jednu vise peticu, a jednu manje 4 ili da drugacije kazem, u Ilica jos nemam poverenja, a mislim da Mitrovic ne bi trebalo da igra na 4, jer tu nema sta da trazi bez suta.

Ne. Sa jedne strane (ukrajinske) gine nevin narod i branioci tog naroda. Sa druge strane (ruske) gine okupatorska i agresorska vojna sila. Agresori i okupatori po definiciji nisu nevini, a posebno nisu "nevini narod". To ne implicira da je su redom svi ruski vojnici koji učestvuju u "specijalnoj operaciji" svi krvožedni zlikovci. Dobar deo njih bi, verovatno, radije bio na nekom drugom mestu/kući, možda im uopšte nije do rata niti zaista podržavaju Putina. To, međutim, ne menja činjenicu da su ruske trupe u Ukrajini po definiciji agresor i okupator i kao takvi su "kriva strana". I ne, oni ne ginu zbog interesa drugih. Ukrajinci ginu u cilju odbrane svoj zemlje, a Rusi ginu u odbranu ruskog/Putinovog regionalnog imperijalizma. Nije neka treća strana izazvala taj rat. Rat je izazvala Rusija (Putin) napadom na Ukrajinu, a na to ih nije naterala viša sila, već Putinova egomanija i vrlo loša procena sopstvene vojne moći. Ako ništa drugo ovaj rat je razotkrio da je Rusija zapravo trećerazredna vojna sila i tehnološki i organizaciono. Jedino što je još uvek čini nekom "vojnom silom" je "nuklearni kišobran". U domenu konvencionalnog rata ne da nije "druga vojna sila", nego je, verovatno, blize negde poziciji između 5 i 10 mesta.

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Ogromna razlika u odnosu na 1945 je da postoji više od jedne zemlje sa nuklearnim oruzjem.

Tolika prica o denacifikaciji i onda razmene osvedocene neonaciste. Doduse, jeste interesantno gledati kako putinofili izvode akrobacije da opravdaju i ovaj potez.

#mismospremni

Ovo su činjenice: Zvanični MVP prošlogodišnje finalne serije. Možeš da kažeš da je neko drugi bio značajniji, jer je 5-7 igrača na svoj način doprinosilo.. ali eto, poneo je tu titulu. Jako povukao naročito u prvom meču, sa one 4 trojke koje je mahom izmislio. U sezoni pre te, 50 poena dao Budućnosti u prva dva meča. Ukupno 92 u pet utakmica (18 po meču) - sličan broj poena i indeks kao i Lojd. Generalno, ogromnu ulogu i poverenje Radonjića je imao u toj seriji. Sve u svemu, veoma zaslužan za poslednje dve titule. Za tu treću se sad i ne sećam njegovih momenata, nije bio toliko u prvom planu - ali na prva dva meča npr dvocifren uz 100 posto iz igre. Ali da, imali smo igru i bez njega i verovatno bi neko drugi uskočio.

Sa kakvom lakoćom je Tristan došao do 17 poena za 15 minuta, baš milina gledati. Anđa - ok, jasno mi je da je ovo gornji limit, ali kako je nekako preiskusno odigrao, sve u laganom ritmu, a u svakom trenutku pravo rešenje. Papapetru - koliki napredak na toj poziciji. Deifinitivno će dobar deo organizacije ići preko njega kada je u igri. Kreira sa niskog posta, konstantno traži otvorene igrače, u odbrani skoncentrisan, čita protivničke napade, baš dobro. Dve trojke došle kao šlag na tortu, to posebno raduje, jer se baš mučio sa šutem zadnjih godinu, dve. Sve u svemu, slabiji protivnik, ali poprilično naložen na ovu tekmu. Svakako da će Zenit biti prava provera. Zna li se za Egzuma, hoće li igrati?

Papapetru kancer svakog tima u kom je igrao, precenjen igrac.

Oce svaki dan od jutra do veceri... Kakav Papapetru, pojesce ga Despot... Cuj on ce nekog da trpa...

Jbg, nema svako zdravu sporcku pricu kao KKCZ...😔

To sto misli Vranic je - to sto misli Vranic. Pitanje je da je on u poziciji predsednika sta bi mogao ili moramo da kaze. A Zelenski ga ponekad malo I preteruje. Ukrajini pomazu ko koliko moze. A distanciranje Srbije od ruskog uticaja mora ici korak po korak. Jer Rusija mozda ne moze mnogo pomoci Srbiji , ali moze joj ovde napraviti veliki picvajz. Prvo treba srediti energetiku.

Japan je itekako bio nužan. Da nije upotrebljeno nuklearno oruzje rat sa Japanom bi vrlo verovatno trajao i 1946. I savezničke, a još više Japanske, žrtve bi bile daleko veće od broja žrtava u Hirošimi i Nagasakiju. Japanci su planirali da vode totalni rat za svaku kuću i ulicu, bez obzira na žrtve (i svoje i protivničke). Atomske bombe su obesmislile taj koncept. Japanci su shvatili da neće biti ništa od gerilskog totalnog rata koji će naneti ogromne gubitke neprijatelju, već da će ako nastave rat skoro svi gubici biti japanski a poraz neizbežan.

Jedan mvp post sa rgm-a, inace knicksovac

Meni je ovo iskreno preterivanje. Sve naravno pod uslovom da je bilo konsensualno a ne da je Udoka nastupao "sa pozicije moći". Jebiga, nikad se ne zna kad i u kojoj situaciji će strast da plane. Njemu dovoljno pakla i bez odluke kluba, ako ima porodicu.

Da li stvarno pitas ko je nekome dao za pravo da misli???

😄

Da ne regrutuju nekog?

Znam iz treće ruke za jedan takav slučaj. Prema onome što sam čuo, čovek je došao pre nekoliko meseci i premestio posao, a više puta se svađao sa budalama koji vole Putlera. Najviše se preneraze kada čuju da uplaćuje novac za pomoć Ukrajini.

Žeks Mitrović da pozavidi na zapletu.

Da li j ovo bilo, ako jeste brišem ili brišite? Interviju za Lekip. Interesantna pitanja. If you hadn't met Mirka, you wouldn't have won 20 Grand Slam titles. Phew... yes, I think so. She was so supportive, pushing me towards tennis instead of saying all the time, "Yeah, when did you finish?" She had a lot of impact in my life, but also on a court. If Nadal had been right-handed, you would have 25 Grand Slam titles. Right now, I would say no. Because I'm not sure that I would have beaten him more often. And I'm still convinced that if it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else. It happened that way. Beating Pete Sampras in 2001 was a lot to take. No. It was a great experience that gave me a boost and a better understanding that you can't just push a button and say, "Okay, I'll play like I did against Sampras. I thought about it for a few months after that win and I realized that not many players play like Sampras and you don't always feel like you did at Wimbledon that day. The win wasn't too much of a burden, but what was more of a burden was hearing over and over, "You're the next Sampras." Early in my career, when I was already being told that, I felt like I didn't deserve the comparison to Pete. And even then, after that win, it was no more justified, by the way. You owe a lot to the Peruvian Luis Horna, who beat you in the first round of the French Open in 2003, before your first title at Wimbledon a few days later. No, I owe more to my mental strength. Horna was just an opponent at that moment. It's true that it started the machine a little bit. It was an experience that allowed me to understand how to manage a Grand Slam, how to manage matches. I stopped underestimating some players and thinking that I could win the French Open or even just make the quarterfinals. It's true that this match certainly created something. But there have been many matches like this in my career. This is not the only one. 82 unforced errors in a single match, that can't have happened very often... (Laughs.) I didn't know where the court was that day! Without winning the French Open in 2009, but with 23 Grand Slam titles, your career would not be as successful. Fifty-fitfy. There are many players who have not won the French Open and yet have complete careers. Today, in 2022, you have to have won everything, beaten all the records, otherwise you have not succeeded... (He stops.) No, I choose the 20 with the French. If Robin Söderling hadn't beaten Rafael Nadal that year, you would never have won the French Open. (Long hesitation.) I say no. Of course, there's no guarantee, but I think I would have managed to win the French in one way or another. The 2003 YEC is one of the most important tournaments of your life. Yes. I've said it many times, it gave me the confidence to beat the best players from the baseline. I remember when the group came out, with Agassi, Nalbandian and Ferrero, who were all baseline players, I thought I'd try to play them from the back of the court to see what happens. There was that mega-match at the beginning against Agassi (6-7, 6-3, 7-6 win) and the rest is history (final win against Agassi, again, in the final). But that's where I proved to myself that I can play any type of player and beat them at their best. I gained the ultimate confidence there. Nobody will ever match the "monster" you created between 2004 and 2007. I say it will happen again. Because it's easier today to win on any surface. The possibility is real. I don't have in mind the best years of Rafa or Novak, but they were very close, right? I see a lot of records falling in the next 50 years and that's normal, because the players are going to be focused on that. But it's not going to be easy because it's long, and it's a lot of matches! During this period of domination and until 2010, you played 23 semifinals in a row in Grand Slam. That's your craziest stat. Yes, it probably is. 23 in a row is huge. Those are kind of abnormal numbers for me. Almost like it's become routine, and I don't mean that in an arrogant way. "Here we go, OK, one more semi, who's going to win? We'll see..." That kind of longevity, I can't believe I've accomplished it in my career. When I hear that, it always strikes me. In the summer of 2013, following your back problems, you were very close to quitting tennis. No (firm). No, it was just, I'm not going to say a big deal, but here's the thing, how do I get out of it? I was in pain so much that I couldn't do it anymore. It started in Indian Wells against (Ivan) Dodig, and then I still play Stan (Wawrinka, 7-5 win in the third), and then Rafa (lost 6-4, 6-2) and now I'm not moving. I play in a completely different way. Then it was really fragile for a long time. When the back is not good, it is not good. Towards the end of the year, it was a little bit better, but it was a very difficult year. It changed the way I engaged on defensive shots. At some point, I was able to get away from that. But thinking about quitting, no, never. Some said at the time that at 32, it was perhaps time to stop... (He cuts off.) But it's always the same, it was the same at Wimbledon last year when they said "Oh yeah, this isn't the same anymore .... "There was not ONE question at the press conference about my knee, which for me is phenomenal! Because that's all I could think about! For months, every day, every hour, every minute. And finally, I don't even have to explain myself about the knee. I was happy, by the way, but at the same time, I didn't understand what people had seen. Either I hide my problems so well, or people don't understand or don't want to talk about it because they're nice. And 2013 was the same way. People judge you without knowing. You can't reveal everything, but deep down you know, "If you knew what I was going through right now..." It's hard because you almost want to say, "I can't, I have a sore back, guys!" "OK then, why are you playing?" "Well, it's still okay just to try...". Those are moments I'm glad I don't have to live through anymore. Every time you say you're hurting or something, it's "Ah, the guy is a sore loser..." It's a super thin line. I tried to handle those moments as best I could, but, inevitably, I made mistakes in that area. Your perfect match is the 2004 US Open final against Hewitt (win 6-0, 7-6, 6-0). I've said many times that if I had a replay, this would be it. In a Grand Slam final, to start and finish 6-0, I think that's fabulous. It will be interesting to see how many times this kind of match will be repeated in the future. Usually, in a Grand Slam final, you have someone in front of you who causes you problems. Plus, Hewitt, for me, was a problem. It was really in that match that wow, I felt like everything I was doing, the different variations, it was amazing. That's when I really settled in as world number one, so that was a very special match, yeah. Better than against Andy Roddick in the final of Wimbledon 2005 (victory 6-2, 7-6, 6-4) ? Against Andy, I also felt that I was in the zone, that nothing could happen to me. But Hewitt came first, that's why I retain this match. This state of absolute invincibility happened to you often? Well, sometimes, fortunately. Let's say, a good ten times, in any case. But you get in that state when you're ahead in the score, when you feel the ball, when you hit your forehands on the line, in the corner, on a difficult passing shot that you try anyway because it's become normal because you're so serene... I really appreciate having had those moments several times. Because it's the ultimate dream for any athlete. If you were to replay just one point from your career, it would be the second championship point at Wimbledon in 2019. Um... I have to think about it, because there have been several of these points (he thinks). I say yes. Because it's true that it was important, and I can't think of any others right now, even though I know there have been many, many others. I think of Wimbledon 2008 against Rafa. The 2009 US Open against Delpo, which is still a defeat that hurts me today because I think I could have won. But I wonder if there wasn't something against Rafa at some point at the French, a point that could have turned a match in my direction... So I say yes because at least I know what point you're talking about, I still see how it goes. If you had to keep only one Grand Slam title, it would be the 2017 Australian Open. (Without hesitation.) I say no! I say 2003, Wimbledon. It's the first one, it launches everything. It's a dream come true. If the career ends there, I'm happy. 2017, it was in a completely different state and situation. It was epic, yes. But if there's no 2003, there are no others. Without Nadal and Djokovic, you wouldn't have invented SABR in 2015. (He wonders.) Why did I invent SABR, again? For me, it had nothing to do with the other two, anyway. In fact, I made it that way while laughing with Benoît Paire, once in Cincinnati (in 2015), during a first training session with jet lag (he takes a long breath). Oh yes, because Seve wanted me to get back on the court, And, so I say to him: "You mean like this?" (He mimes a shot on the rise). And it all started from there. There had already been an attempt in Switzerland during a training session, if I remember well, but it is with Benoît that it took shape. I was doing such crazy things, winner, tac, ping-pong, you couldn't believe it, we were all laughing together, you'll have to ask Benoît one day. It was a training completely relaxed. You arrive around 3pm, your match is at 8pm, at nightfall, we were alone on the center court, it was beautiful... Without Djokovic and Nadal, you would have stopped your career earlier. No, I don't think so. I would have found other sources of motivation to keep going. You have sometimes dreamed of ending your career with a Grand Slam victory, like Sampras. I would say yes, in a certain vision. But it should have been decided before. You can't say, "Oh, that sounds good, here", without talking to the team, without talking to your family, nothing. Like, "You know what, I'm going to marry you!" You still have to take the time. I've never made decisions like that. But it's true that it would have been nice, even if Sampras didn't announced it right away. He waited for a while to make up his mind, it's different to take the microphone at the moment. Anyway, as I say now, it's the end of a fairy tale. In the end, it's your game more than your record that leaves a mark on the history of tennis. Yes, I was surprised to see how much people talked about my personality or my game as being what will remain in the sport. I thought everyone was going to jump on the super records, what I did or didn't do, when in fact they didn't. The notion of longevity, the fact of having known the older generation is more important. After 2009, once I managed to break the record of Grand Slam titles, the situation changed. In fact, to a certain extent, I was playing against myself before the others (Nadal and Djokovic) joined me. The next 13 years were different. Like another career. Do you regret never having played Carlos Alcaraz? Of course, it's disappointing that I never got to play against him. Obviously, I followed closely what he did at the US Open and throughout the year. It was fantastic, his game is brilliant and I always said that there would always be new superstars in tennis. He is one of them. Sometimes people tend not to believe it, like when Pete and Andre left. They thought, "What are we going to get now?" Well, it was Novak, Rafa, myself, Murray, Stan... I have a funny anecdote with Carlos, because I trained with him at Wimbledon when he was still a junior. I thought he was already playing well. It was like a warm-up. And Juan Carlos (Ferrero, his coach) was there. The next day, on my day off, we did it again, as we often do when you train with someone. But I said, "I'd rather hit with Juan Carlos," just because I'm super laid back in practice and I felt like playing with Ferrero for fun. It was great. He didn't miss a single ball. He could still be on the tour. I'm really happy that they are both so successful together. Sometimes you go on vacation to Manacor to remind Rafa that you beat him in your last match. (He laughs.) But I don't even know where it was the last time we played each other! Wimbledon 2019? I couldn't even remember. No, I see myself going on vacation there and sending my kids to the academy. Besides, we've already talked about it with Mirka. I won't remind him that, this is not my style. I know a lot of athletes do it, but I'm not like that at all, it's not me.

Glupost realno

Pa teško da postoji ekvivalencija. Ukrajina nije napala Rusiju, već Rusija Ukrajinu. Ukrajina nije pobila u svom okruzenju milone civila niti drzi pod okupacijom milone kvadratnih kilometara tudje teritorije. Pravi ekvivalent bi bio da je nacistička Nemačka napravila atomsku bombu pa je iskoristila posle poraza kod Staljingrada.

i to sa bonusima za titulu, kup i plasman u plejof euroleague. inace je 330k + bonusi xD

Naravno da bi nam legla četvorka kalibra Singltona umjesto Bentila ali da nam je ta pozicija najveći problem, nikako ne mogu da se složim. Imamo manjak igrača na 2/3 koji su dobri sa loptom i mogu bar za sebe nešto da kreiraju. Kad ne igra Nedović, mi imamo Dobrića koji je težak za gledanje na poziciji 2, Lazića koji je najkorisniji kad ne igra ni jednu poziciju i Holanda sa 33 godine, bez EL iskustva. Ali ako bi Nedović odigrao veliku većinu utakmicu, uključujući one za trofeje a Holand bio korektan, možda se to ne bi toliko osjetilo. Trenutno je previše pitanja a malo odgovora, dok ne krene sezona.

Kako to zasto je dozvolio? Pa da bi mogao da nastavi da prica pricu o denacifikaciji Ukrajine. Evo sad opet ima nekih neonacista koji ce se gotovo sigurno vratiti na front. Pa ih mozda opet uhvate, pa ih opet slikaju sa tetovazama, pa razmene i tako u krug. Dok obican narod strada... jer su se carevi igrali rata. (ah bilo bi dobro da je kao i u stihu to u proslom vremenu).

Samo da kazem svaka cast hrabrim ljudima u Rusiji koji protestuju. Nadam se da ce sutra da ih bude jos vise. Ovi su izgleda razbijeni i pohapseno je preko 2000 ljudi. Ako ih izadje stvarno masa, nece moci sve da uhapse.

Nije sporno kada se ovo procita na forumu, ali je jezivo kada u klubu razmisljaju na ovakav nacin. A videli smo vec da ima takvih ideja ranijih sezona. Holand nije 2. Ivanovic nije ni 1 ni 2. EC igrac. Dobric tek nije 2. Nije izgledalo dobro, izgledalo je uzasno. To sto se provukao jednu seriju protiv Buducnosti ne znaci da moze u EL. U stvari kada nemas ambicije onda sve moze. Moze i Petrusev na 4, Lazarevic na 2 i 4, Lazic na 2. Nema sta ne moze. Bice ovo jako mucna sezona, sa trenerom pocetnikom kome je neko drugi sastavljao ekipu. Ekipu koja ima 1 beka i 4 krila, gde taj bek koji je potpuno nepouzdanog zdravlja prima mozda i najvecu platu ikad u Zvezdi i za koga je jos placeno obestecenje. A gde smo najbolje se vidi po tome sto smo prodali 3000 sezonskih, a Partizan 10 000. Izracunajte razliku u prihodima. Stoji da su oni dugo bez EL pa su se uzeleli, ali ova razlika nije normalna. Ceka nas puno saopstenja ove sezone.

Hoće, ali ne "istorija". Sudiće prvo ruski narod Putinu kad se jednom osvesti i shvati u kakvu ih je propast doveo. A sledbenicima FSB "analitičara" na Hepiju, Pinku,Vestima, Informeru i sličnom smeću verovatno ni poraz Rusije, ni trenutak kada se ruski narod, ako nije gluplji nego što mislim, reši Putina "Rumunskim scenariom" ala "Čaušesku" neće pomoći da se osveste i izađu iz svoje mantre o "zlom Zapadu koji je pokvario Ukrajince pa he dobri čika Putin morao da pošalje vojsku da ih "oslobodi" (za početak od života i imovine).

Tangira nas kojima je stalo do reprezentacije Srbije i ne volimo kada se neko zajebava sa istom. Bilo da su u pitanju debili iz saveza, neki fudbaleri splavari ili ovi koji dolaze u istu na trening da ostanu u formi.