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1 hour ago, zoran59 said:

Ova situacija ima potencijal da postane jos neprijatnija - tj. opasna.

 

Nisam informisan ni elokventan kao Rosenfeld, pa cu preneti njegovo gledanje:

 

What Trump may be plotting: This might be a momentary tantrum; it may well be something more sinister

 

We see it unfolding before us. The plan, though horrifying, is simple.

 

1. Sow seeds of doubt by promoting specious claims about the integrity of the election, undermining and therefore disqualifying it.

2. Begin court proceedings, hoping to toss out votes for your opponent, but with the more likely objective of giving your unsubstantiated claims a semblance of legitimacy while excusing your refusal to accept the election results.

3. Maintain a tight grip of control over the Republican Party, wielding your influence with the base as a club over GOP politicos in order to quash any dissent.

4. Dismiss anyone who might not be loyal to you and replace them with avowed loyalists who are willing to do your bidding.

5. Lead a national disinformation campaign, spreading lies and innuendoes through state-allied media — in this case Fox News, in particular via Trump administration lackeys.

6. Refuse to cooperate with your opponent and his transition team. Emily Murphy, the head of General Services Administration, has refused to acknowledge that Biden won the election and to release the millions designated to enable the transition to commence. Biden has also been unable to begin receiving intelligence briefings.

7. Begin floating the idea of overturning the will of the people in order to “protect the integrity of the election” by having the vote thrown out in particular states, with state legislatures appointing electors that the people did not choose.

8. Use the power of the presidency and its departments to further undermine the election. Trump’s lapdog attorney general, William Barr, has now authorized federal prosecutors to look into voter fraud claims, despite the fact that there is zero evidence of wide-scale voter fraud.

9. Wield the threat of mob violence. Trump has continued to rile up his most extreme supporters. In some cases, this has meant only protesting, which is certainly their right. But Trump’s supporters often carry weapons, and the president is keen to embrace thuggery.

10. Have GOP-led legislatures refuse to certify the election results. This is far-fetched for sure: State laws prevent it. But that doesn’t mean Trump won’t try. Or won’t at least try to use the courts to stall and claim the vote was illegitimate.

11. Completely refuse to give up power. Let’s hope we don’t get to this last one.

It would definitely be difficult for the Trump team to pull off all these machinations. That being said, it’s important that we prepare. You can be certain that, despite their calm exteriors, Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and the leaders of the Biden team have been meeting and have been discussing the possibility that Trump just might not leave office, despite the fact that he not only lost the Electoral College, but this time lost the popular vote, it’s likely, by somewhere north of 6 million.

 

If Trump refuses to go, it’s the people who will have to take action by taking to the streets — not violently, but through large scale protests and civil disobedience. Violence, remember, is not only wrong; it would also play right into Trump’s hands.

We have to be ready because, if we’re not, we may find that what previously was considered unthinkable has become our new reality.

 

 

 

 

Nazalost, ovakav scenario se upravo odvija....

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5 hours ago, Liska Manjina said:

 

To su nekakvi pojedinacni glasovi ko zna odakle je to Tucker izvuko, inace sam citao orginalan clanak na Fox-u pre neki dan. Ovo nije nikakava sistematska i planirana kradja od strane demokrata ili neka technoloska greska sistema, znaci nigde veze da to svi u svetu rade i tako i USA kao sto si pisao pre. Ne kazem da to nije moguce ali do sada nije dokazano, nego bas suprotno da do sada nije toga bilo.

 

evo ovo je iz tvog linka:

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He claimed that the mail-in system established due to the coronavirus pandemic 'encouraged' fraud, by allowing others to cast a vote for the likes of Rosemary Hardle - an elementary school teacher who died in 2017 - as well as Fred Stoke Jr Clark, who also died in 2017. 

He claimed that the dead voters 'presumably' voted for Biden, although the choices listed on the alleged ballots are not known and Carlson had no evidence whatsoever for his claim. In fact the only arrest so far for attempting to vote in a dead person's name was of a Trump-supporting registered Republican in Pennsylvania

Carlson's claims were reiterated by former Nevada Attorney General and the state's Trump campaign co-chair, Adam Laxalt, who admitted that the scale of the fraud is not yet known.  

But even assuming they voted for Biden - which would be to ignore Republican convictions for electoral fraud across the country - 25 votes would do nothing to move Georgia or Nevada closer to being regained by Trump

 

 

Sada ce ponovo brojati glasove rucno u GA, sto je jos jedan nivo vise nego sto je zakonom odredjen samo da udovolje Trumpu. Ako to izgubi onda je double looser, ne smem ni da pomislim na novi tantrum.

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Da rezimiram, više ni jedna stanica u vestima ne preskače da Trumpa nazove loser, to je jedan od razloga što je Trump dobio prethodne izbore. Niko više nije u stanju da nastavi napred, već svi staju da razbiju oponenta. To je nova US, ranije je bilo, zvekneš šamar i dok se oponent puši nastaviš dalje. Kao da su pobedu nad Trumpom shvatili kao životno dostignuće.


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47 minutes ago, mrd said:

Da rezimiram, više ni jedna stanica u vestima ne preskače da Trumpa nazove loser, to je jedan od razloga što je Trump dobio prethodne izbore. Niko više nije u stanju da nastavi napred, već svi staju da razbiju oponenta. To je nova US, ranije je bilo, zvekneš šamar i dok se oponent puši nastaviš dalje. Kao da su pobedu nad Trumpom shvatili kao životno dostignuće.


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Pa nazivati nekoga loser, ugly etc. je trademark Trumpa. Znaci zato je dobio izbore jer je svakog nazivao svakakvim pogrdnim imenima - ima nekog smisla, ali nije zato dobio izbore prosli put (mada jedan deo njegove baze voli to, smeju se i uzivaju takvim stvarima na mitinzima). Ali da je sada zbog toga izgubio - to je vec skoro ocigledno.

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Alex Pareene, Gawker writer

Loser

Alex Rodriguez, baseball player

Idiot

Alex Salmond, Scottish politician

Loser

Amy Pascal, former chairwoman of Sony Pictures

Loser

Ana Navarro, political commentator

Loser

Anderson Cooper, journalist

Dumb

Aneesh S, random Twitter user

Dummy

Angelo Carusone, vice-president of Media Matters

Loser

Anika Heinmaa, university student

Dummy

Anthony Baxter, filmmaker

Dummy

Arianna Huffington, publisher

Loser

Barack Obama, U.S. President

Idiot

Bill Maher, talk show host

Loser

Bill Kristol

Loser

Bill Moyers, liberal activist

Dummy

Bobby Jindal, governor of Louisiana

A zero

Brah Sumatra, random guy on Twitter

Dummy

Brett Jarka, random guy on Twitter

Loser

Brian Williams, former NBC News host

Dummy

Charles Freeman, writer

Dummy

Charles Krauthammer, columnist

Loser

Cher, singer

Loser

Chris Cillizza, journalist

Moron

Chris Jackson, basketball player

Loser

Chris Moody, journalist

Loser

Chuck Hagel, former defence secretary

Moron

Chuck Todd, journalist

Loser

Clare O’Connor, Forbes writer

Dummy

Dan Amira, senior editor at New York magazine

Loser

Danny Zuker, writer of TV’s Modern Family

Loser

Dave Centrist, unknown

Loser

David Cameron, British Prime Minister

Dummy

David Milne, resident of Menie, Scotland

Loser

Dr. Thomas Frieden, CDC director

Fool

Eric Schneiderman, N.Y. attorney general

Loser

Erick Erickson, red-state organizer

Loser

Frank Lutz, pollster

Loser

Gary, an astrologer in Cleveland

Loser

Gavin Rossdale, musician

Loser

George Will, columnist and author

Loser

Glenfiddich, a whisky brand

Joke

Graydon Carter, editor of Vanity Fair

Loser

Gwyneth Paltrow, actress

Loser

Harry Hurt, Trump biographer

Dummy

Hisham Elzanaty, businessman

Loser

Howard Stern, radio host

Loser

Huffington Post, online news aggragator

Loser

ISIS

Evil losers

J Papadopoulos, Australian

Moron

Jamie Flood, Doctor Who fan

Dummy

Jacqueline Goldberg, 87-year-old grandmother

Loser

Jeb Bush, Republican candidate

Loser

Jerry Seinfeld, comic (net worth $700m)

Failure

John Heilemann, journalist

Dummy

John McCain, U.S. Senator and war hero

Loser

Jon Stewart, comedian

Dummy

Jonah Goldberg, editor of National Review

Loser

Karl Rove, political strategist

Loser

Kirsten Powers, political pundit

Dummy

Kristina Oakes, One Direction fan

Moron

Lawrence O’Donnell, MSNBC host

Fool

Lindsey Graham

Idiot

Lord Sugar, English business magnate

Loser

Marco Rubio

Loser

Mark Cuban, investor

Loser

Megyn Kelly, Fox News journalist

Loser

Michael Forbes, Scottish farmer

Loser

Michele Shephard, business executive

Dummy

Michelle Malkin, conservative blogger

Loser

Mike Tollin, documentary filmmaker

Loser

New York Daily News, newspaper

Loser

Nick McDougall, random guy on Twitter

Dummy

Nick Vranas, salesman

Dummy

Patch.com, news website

Loser

Patrick Blackburn

Moron

Paul Goldberger, architecture critic

Loser

Philip Crowther, French journalist

Loser

Random Twitter User #1

Loser

Random Twitter User #2

Loser

Random Twitter User #3

Idiot

Random Twitter User #4

Loser

Random Twitter User #5

Dummy

Random Twitter User #6

Loser

Random Twitter User #7

Dummy

Random Twitter User #8

Moron

Richard Belzer, actor

Stone Cold Loser

Rihanna, singer

Loser

Robert Yopp, refrigerator repairman

Dummy

Roger Stone, former Trump advisor

Stone Cold Loser

Rosie O’Donnell, talk show host

Loser

Russell Brand, actor

Loser

Ryan Matt, guy in Phoneix

Loser

Salon, news website

Loser

Sarah A. Wescot-Williams, Prime Minister of Sint Maarten

Loser

Sasha Baron Cohen, actor and comedian

Moron

Seth Meyers, talk show host

Loser

Sheena Monnin, former Miss Pennsylvania

Loser

Shelly Kulwin, lawyer

Fool

Star Jones, lawyer

Fool

Terry Pegula, Buffalo Bills owner

Loser

Thamsanqa Jantjie, sign-language interpreter at Mandela funeral

Moron

Theo Moll, Vice columnist

Dummy

Thokozile Masipa, Oscar Pistorius trial judge

Moron

Tim O’Brien, novelist

Loser

Timothy Burke, Deadspin writer

Loser

Tina Brown, magazine editor

Loser

Tom Allen, random Twitter user

Moron

Tom Scocca, Deadspin editor

Loser

Yolie, LGBT activist

Loser

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https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1327153961791614978

 

"One former White House official said Trump asked about self-pardons as well as pardons for his family. Trump even asked if he could issue pardons pre-emptively for things people could be charged with in the future, the former official said."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/12/politics/trump-pardons-loom-defeat/index.html

 

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On 11/12/2020 at 4:39 PM, mrd said:

Ovo je za corona zajebancija. 


 

Pa da vidis i ne sasvim:

 

”E sasda vidite kako izgledaju te ekstremisticke fore. Svima je zabavno, a onda odjednom vasi prijatelji se pojave na forumima gde im prete smrcu. Ne znam tacno ko su ljudi sa slike, jer su slike zamucene, ali poznajem trojicu koji rade u toj firmi i to bi lako mogli biti oni. Za svakog pojedinacno od te trojice tvrdim da je moralna velicina u odnosu na Trampa, s obzirom da sam gledao sta on govori i znam sta oni govore i rade. Ne varaju zene, ne hvale se kako su ih hvatali za medjunozje, ne kukaju da su pokradeni kada nisu. Tako da sledeci put kada se odusevljavate kako je Tramp "pravi iskreni covek", imajte u vidu da nekim vasim komsijama danas prete smrcu zbog njega.
(programer, 13. novembar 2020 18:13) “

 

Komentar sa b92 na tekst:

 

https://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2020&mm=11&dd=13&nav_category=78&nav_id=1763438

 

Nekom klikbajt, a nekom pretnja smrcu.

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2 hours ago, mrd said:

Da rezimiram, više ni jedna stanica u vestima ne preskače da Trumpa nazove loser, to je jedan od razloga što je Trump dobio prethodne izbore. Niko više nije u stanju da nastavi napred, već svi staju da razbiju oponenta. To je nova US, ranije je bilo, zvekneš šamar i dok se oponent puši nastaviš dalje. Kao da su pobedu nad Trumpom shvatili kao životno dostignuće.


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Kako da nastavis napred kada se loser zakljucao u WH i nikog ne pusta? 

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Kako da nastavis napred kada se loser zakljucao u WH i nikog ne pusta? 
Izaći će. Da li misliš da ovo podjebavanje pomaže, ili odmaže. Ja kažem, a ponavljam se, da daje sliku o drugoj strani.

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2 hours ago, mrd said:

Izaći će. Da li misliš da ovo podjebavanje pomaže, ili odmaže. Ja kažem, a ponavljam se, da daje sliku o drugoj strani.

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Slabo pratite, izasao je on odavno.

 

 

Ali kako je popizdeo Vucic sto se oped zajebalo, ladno izjavio ujutru cu da cestitam necu da budem u prvih 50 belosvetskih ... znate vec.

 

Ima da ga Bajden masno znate vec sta, a mislim da i on to zna:lol_2:

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5 hours ago, mrd said:

Da rezimiram, više ni jedna stanica u vestima ne preskače da Trumpa nazove loser, to je jedan od razloga što je Trump dobio prethodne izbore. Niko više nije u stanju da nastavi napred, već svi staju da razbiju oponenta. To je nova US, ranije je bilo, zvekneš šamar i dok se oponent puši nastaviš dalje. Kao da su pobedu nad Trumpom shvatili kao životno dostignuće.


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Trump se igra i manipulise najnizim ljudskim porivima, i kod pristalica i kod protivnika - tako je generisao podrsku, tako je generisao otpor koji opet generise podrsku i tako bez kraja... Dok ne dodje do ubrzanja i usijanja emocija koje je neodrzivo i koje dovodi do eksplozije. Zato me ne cudi sto mnogi biraju da na udarac odgovore udarcem, i na ponizenja koje su trpili, ponizavanjem Trampa kada im se ukazala prilika... Sam je izabrao oruzje i nacin na koji ce voditi politicke duele - sada je kasno zaliti se da zadobijene rane previse bole...

 

Ono sto je ohrabrujuce je da nova administracija ne podlijeze tome - Biden je, barem za sada, uzdrzan u pobjedi, i osim izjave da je Trampovo ponasanje embarassment (kao sto i jeste), nije se upustao ni u likovanje, ni u ponizavanje Trampa...

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2 hours ago, mrd said:

Izaći će. Da li misliš da ovo podjebavanje pomaže, ili odmaže. Ja kažem, a ponavljam se, da daje sliku o drugoj strani.

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Da, izaci ce milom ili silom. Ovo podjebavanje nije podjebavanje, nego isto sto i Tramp radi. Propaganda. On apeluje na svoje glasace da je prevaren, demsi apeluju na svoje glasace da je Tramp ludak. 

Sve i da daje trenutno neku sliku o demokratama, nebitna je jer na drugoj strani Tramp radi sta radi. 

 

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Da, izaci ce milom ili silom. Ovo podjebavanje nije podjebavanje, nego isto sto i Tramp radi. Propaganda. On apeluje na svoje glasace da je prevaren, demsi apeluju na svoje glasace da je Tramp ludak. 
Sve i da daje trenutno neku sliku o demokratama, nebitna je jer na drugoj strani Tramp radi sta radi. 
 
Ko je tu onda normalan? To sve vreme pitam. Meni ni jedni ne igraju!

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On 11/10/2020 at 2:12 PM, zoran59 said:

 

Da, pojednostavljujes kad se "boris" sa izmisljenom tvdnjom da je Trump ubio ljude. To niko nije tvrdio, nego da snosi deo odgovornosti sto se epidemija siri po USA vise nego bi trebala - i, posledicno, ima vise umrlih.

Sabotirao je svoj sopstveni "krizni stab" i ismevao mere, maske itd.

Jedino za sta je Trump odlicno upotrebiv je - da bude los primer.

 

Njegov rasizam nisu izmislili forumasi...

Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020

link: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history

‘1950s racism straight from the White House’: Trump’s tweets revolt politicians around the world

link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/07/15/racism-straight-white-house-trumps-tweets-revolt-politicians-around-world/?utm_source=reddit.com

 

Za ubivanje my bad, to sam pročitao negde drugde baš tako i bio ubeđen da je Baby tako pisala kada smo se loptali u par postova oko toga. Ali jeste svih 200+ hiljada tovareno Trampu iako je potpuno jasno da bi jedan deo umro šta god da je rađeno sa federalnog nivoa i da su i guverneri odgovorni za svoje greške. Za koliko smrti je odgovoran Cuomo koji je dopustio da se zaraženi smeštaju u staračke domove? O tome se u medijima ne piše jer su potpuno, ali svih 100% pristrasni.

 

Što se Trampovog rasizma tiče meni je taj članak dokaz da nije rasista. Naveli su sve što su mogli da nađu za skoro 50 godina i našli za shodno da uključe i ovo:

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1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”

2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”

 

Da, Tramp se bori prljavo protiv konurencije ali gde je rasizam? Sklonio je crnce sa stolova kasina zato što je neki veliki kockar bio rasista ne zato što su njemu smetali. Galamio je i tražio vraćanje smrtne kazne zato što su 5 tinejdžera oteli i silovali nekoga ne zato to su crni. Da je bilo bilo kakve rasne poruke u tome sigurno bi i to izvukli. Skoro sve ostalo je na istom nivou što se i u članku priznaje ali izgovor kojim se opravdavaju teza da je u pitanju dugogodišnja istorija koja pokazuje rasizam ne stoji jer nema dokaza da on isto ne radi i belcima. Zašto je Crooked Hillary mizoginija a Sleepy Joe ili ono što je radio republikancima nije mizandrija? Zato što ideologija, koju ja ne prihvatam, tako kaže. On se ponaša prljavo prema svima, nije rasista nego arsehole.

 

On 11/10/2020 at 3:47 PM, ters said:

Da, oteo je republikansku stranku od njenih clanova i gurnuo je na ekstremno desnu stranu, ali to nema nikakve veze sa 70 miliona njegovih biraca, od kojih se vecina  vodi prvenstveno rasizmom i supremacizmom, potom sexizmom, pa tek na kraju manjom taksom... Svaka cast iforumasima kojima je taksa i fiskalna politika prvi i jedini razlog zbog kojeg podrzavaju Trampa,  ali vecina njegovih glsaca ne misli tako ( i za to pogledati izvor koji je Zoran postavio https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history )

 

 

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Ja ne vidim da su ti dijagrami dokaz da se većina njegovih glasača ukovodi seksizmom i rasizmom, vidim da postoji korelacija između stepena rasizma i seksizma i verovatnoće da se glasa za Trampa. Iz dijagrama se ne vidi broj "rasista" i "seksista"  u strukturi glasača Trampa da bi moglo da se tvrdi da se većina birača rukovodi time. 

 

Drugo i važnije, kao što i članak u Voxu pokazuje, definicija rasizma i seksizma igra veliku ulogu u tome kako će neko biti označen na dijagramu. Za mene su rasisti i demokrate koji su ideološki prihvatili i u praksi primenjuju rasističku CRT i bukvalno prvo polivaju govnima belce da su rasisti od rođenja do smrti bez izuzetka a posle traže da glasaju za njih. Definicju rasizma power+prejudice ne prihvatam, rasizam je predrasuda zasnovana na percipiranoj rasi i može da ide u svim pravcima od svakog. Takođe, imaju i oni moć čim su se izborili za mere diskriminacije ne samo prema belcima nego u još većoj meri prema azijatima. 

 

Treće, odslušao sam juče emisiju Steve Paikina gde gost u jednom trenutku navodi istraživanje da izlazni pollovi kažu da je preko 70% glasača Trampa navelo zabrinutost za javni red i mir i ličnu sigurnost kao glavni razlog. Gost se ne slaže sa time ali meni se čini logičnim:

 

 

 

On 11/12/2020 at 5:04 PM, ters said:

 

Biden nije dobra opcija, ali jeste bolja opcija jer nece ohrabrivati  naciste da sire svoju aktivnost.

 

Da se razumijemo, naciste i fasiste u USA nije stvorio Tramp, ali im je dao platformu u glavnim medijima, omogucio im regrutaciju novih clanova, i stvorio utisak kod prosjecnog gradjanina, da su i njihovi stavovi validni - a nisu, niti ikada mogu biti u jednom civilizovanom drustvu. Jednostavno ne postoje "very fine people" medju nacistima i rasistima. Postoje normalni ljudi koji su glasali za Trampa "za saku dolara", normalni ljudi  koji su izabrali da ne reaguju na Trumpov rasizam jer ne pogadja njih licno, i njih ne treba mjesati sa Trumpanzees koji masu oruzjem i vicu Heil Trump, ali mislim da ce doci vrijeme kada ce se i oni zamisliti o svojim postupcima, kada se pojavi neko ko i njih nece smatrati dovoljno cistim za arijevsku rasu.

 

U kojim glavnim medijima? Oni su potpuno protiv Trampa osim kada opali 80 tomahavka na Siriju.

 

Nema Trampovog rasizma, ima prljavog muljanja i grube igre koje je na granici pristojnog i u biznisu a kamoli u politici. Ne bi trebalo da je prišao ni blizu Bele kuće ali je sticajem okolnosti u ovom trenutku za nijansu manje loš izbor.

 

Previše pojednostavljuješ stvari, za koga da glasa recimo Meksikanka koja je vernica, protiv abortusa i radi posao gde su joj imigranti direktna konkurencija ali bi želela besplatno zdravstvo? Može i tamo i ovamo, njen izbor. Ti se je međutim ubacio u društvo nacista i kupljenih za šaku dolara.

 

3 hours ago, Klotzen said:

Ovo za cilj ima da što više destabilizuje SAD. Ništa drugo ovo ne donosi nikom. Ali ovo je nešto najbolje što je mogao da uradi ne zbog Bajdena i demokrata nego zbog ljudi koji su glasali za njega. Da vide da taj čovek nije sav svoj.

Verovatnoća za boldovano je bliska nuli. Tvrdo jezgro će mu ostati verno a oni koji su glasali protiv politike demokrata znaju kakv je, ako demokrate ne promene politiku mali broj bi odustao od glasa najjačem protivkandidatu pa i Trampu ako je on taj.

 

2 hours ago, ters said:

Ono sto je ohrabrujuce je da nova administracija ne podlijeze tome - Biden je, barem za sada, uzdrzan u pobjedi, i osim izjave da je Trampovo ponasanje embarassment (kao sto i jeste), nije se upustao ni u likovanje, ni u ponizavanje Trampa...

Biden je najmanji problem u ovoj situaciji ali pobednička strana nije samo on, radikalno krilo sprema spiskove za cancel culture tretman. Do sukoba će sigurno doći i oko toga i oko politike. Najzdravije bi bilo da se podele, AOC i Biden ne pripadaju u istu stranku. Verovatnije je da Bajden milom ili silom neće završiti mandat. Ako se ne povuče sam moguće je da će odjednom početi da veruju ženi koja ga je optužila za seksualni napad ili se setiti izgubljenog laptopa.

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On 11/12/2020 at 12:09 PM, nssa said:

 

Postovi su jos na ovom tredu pa se moze videti sta si rekla a sta ne. Link sam postavio da bi se videlo da li je, i koliko, taj zakon dobar. Prosek je tu da bi se video stvarni efekat koji je mnogo blizi onome sto je Zoran tvrdio nego tvome "individualnom" primeru iz

RL mi se umesao, odgovaram uskoro, tokom vikenda dok zavrsim posao.

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Republican leaders in 4 key U.S. states quash Trump bid on switching electors

 

 

Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House.

State Republican lawmakers in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have all said they would not intervene in the selection of electors, who ultimately cast the votes that secure a candidate's victory. Such a move would violate state law and a vote of the people, several noted.

"I do not see, short of finding some type of fraud — which I haven't heard of anything — I don't see us in any serious way addressing a change in electors," said Rusty Bowers, Arizona's Republican House speaker, who said he's been inundated with emails pleading for the legislature to intervene.

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