Novak vs State

[LordOfTerror]

Koji ce tek cirkus da nastupi kad pocne turnir.

 

Pozitivnih ce biti na desetine dnevno, ima da ih jure po kompleksima i izoluje zive u limenim sanducima.

[joshmor]

2 minutes ago, alcesta said:

U tom slučaju isti dokaz treba i ovima drugima koje su pustili po istom osnovu.

S druge strane, i onda se sve svodi na to da li veruješ ili ne tom konkretnom lekaru koji to potpiše.

da,bude se ljudi polako

 

 

[displejnejm]

1 minute ago, alcesta said:

U tom slučaju isti dokaz treba i ovima drugima koje su pustili po istom osnovu.

S druge strane, i onda se sve svodi na to da li veruješ ili ne tom konkretnom lekaru koji to potpiše.

Ali mi ne znamo šta je sa drugima, ne znamo kakvi su bili slučajevi, jer niko drugi nije želeo da objavi da je izuzet osim Novaka koji je bio ekstremno ponosan na tu činjenicu i podelio je sa čitavim čovečanstvom.

[wwww]

2 minutes ago, LordOfTerror said:

Koji ce tek cirkus da nastupi kad pocne turnir.

 

Pozitivnih ce biti na desetine dnevno, ima da ih jure po kompleksima i izoluje zive u limenim sanducima.

nece biti pozitivnih na tone jer nece imati obavezno testiranje vec ce se testirati samo oni koji zele (osim ako ne budu bas imali uocljive simptome pa ih posalju na testiranje)

2 minutes ago, displejnejm said:

Ali mi ne znamo šta je sa drugima, ne znamo kakvi su bili slučajevi, jer niko drugi nije želeo da objavi da je izuzet osim Novaka koji je bio ekstremno ponosan na tu činjenicu i podelio je sa čitavim čovečanstvom.

komentarisali su zvanicnici da su bar 3 identicna slucaja vec usla nesmetano u Australiju.

[LordOfTerror]

Just now, wwww said:

nece biti pozitivnih na tone jer nece imati obavezno testiranje vec ce se testirati samo oni koji zele (osim ako ne budu bas imali uocljive simptome pa ih posalju na testiranje)

 

Precenio sam njihovu pedantnost.

 

Ipak je bitnije biti vakcinisan nego zdrav...

[joshmor]

i ja to ne tumačim da je bio ekstremno ponosan,već da u startu odgovori na sva ta pitanja koja bi dolazila i uzimala energiju

[wwww]

[displejnejm]

8 minutes ago, wwww said:

 

komentarisali su zvanicnici da su bar 3 identicna slucaja vec usla nesmetano u Australiju.

Može link ka komentaru zvaničnika? Ako je tako, tj. ako je 100% identičan slučaj (neću da se vaksujem jer sam preležao),  onda je to i neodrživo, tj. žalba bi morala da urodi plodom. 

[erwin]

 

[wwww]

 

diskutuju sta je bio uzrok, pa kao jedan navode da kad je neko iz Novakovog tima aplicirao za vizu pocetkom novembra (jer su morali tako rano da apliciraju, iako se tada jos uvek nisu znala pravila za ulazak u Australiju i igranje AO ) nisu znali da ce se Novak inficirati u medjuvremenu, pa na osnovu toga uci u Australiju (tad jos nije bilo ni govora o ovoj opciji za ulazak tj. da ce dati isti status inficiranima u poslednjih 6 meseci kao i vakcinisanima).  Sto povlaci zakljucak da je Novak tada planirao da se vakcinise da bi igrao AO (jer je onda aplicirao za vizu koja ne zahteva izuzece, tj. za koju treba vakcinacija).

 

kakva banana drzava!

 

 

 

 

 

 

nesto razmisljam (u svetlu svakojakih informacia i "informacija" koje se objavljuju po novinama) da je dobro sto ce neki pravnici otici na sud da rasprave problem (pa makar to ne dalo nikakve rezultate u smislu dobijanja vize). bar ce se konacno prestati s sirenjem lazi, blacenja i spekulacija po medijama (bar se nadam, valjda bi trebalo da neki sudski dokument onda bude dostupan javnosti, te bi konacno neke stvri mogle da se rasciste).

 

a da sam na Novakovom mestu, sad kad ima 3-4-... sedmice "raspusta" angazovala bih advokate da krenu redom da tuze raznorazne mamlaze koji svih ovih godina prosipaju lazi o njemu. on jednostavno mora da pocne ovo da radi jer ce u suprotnom izgubiti i sponzore (posto ce ovi hteti da se ograde od negativne kampanje koja je uzela nesnosne razmere).

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by wwww

[joshmor]

1 hour ago, displejnejm said:

Može link ka komentaru zvaničnika? Ako je tako, tj. ako je 100% identičan slučaj (neću da se vaksujem jer sam preležao),  onda je to i neodrživo, tj. žalba bi morala da urodi plodom. 

ovo apsolutno nije važno-ta dva tela su dala dozvolu svima,pa i novaku!

 

i želim da kažem još ovo-tim svojim glasnim ćutanjem ATP je dobio generacije mutavaca koji će trpeti sve.

 

ako....

 

[Darko]

Pa vidite, danas je u Australiji bilo 70,000+ slučajeva na oko 30% pozitivnosti. Na isti dan, Novak je sleteo u Melburn. Slučajnost? Naravno da ne - pametnome dosta 

[wwww]

 

kakav sou!!!!

 

ovo se ne moze videti ni u latinoamerickim telenovelama, sigurna sam!

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by wwww

[Dracarys]

Ko zna, zbog cega je ovo dobro! Recenica kojom se Novak sluzi.

 

Istina, Novak je osramocen od australskih politicara. Ako su imali na umu da igraju samo vakcinisani igraci, nema problema, sedi Novak kuci, slavi Badnji dan i Bozic i imace sasvim dovoljno vremena da se pripremi za sezonu sljake. Da nije proslo pre njega nekoliko tenisera sa istom medicinskom dokumentacijom (ne verujem da viza moze biti problem da se ne zavaravamo, u to samo budala moze da veruje), pa i da poverujem kako se zele maksimalno zastititi. Ovako su ga stavili na stub srama, prebacivajuci krivicu na njegovu stranu, to ne mogu uraditi osobe sa 2% morala. Znam da je danas jako popularno biti los i bez obraza, jer ka tome svet i ide, ka svetu losih ljudi. Postoji jedna japanska poslovica koja kaze: Losa vremena stvaraju dobre ljude, dobri ljudi stvaraju lose ljude, losi ljudi stvaraju losa vremena! Sledeci ciklus je veoma dobro poznat!

 

Novak da digne glavu gore, ipak je sve ovo samo prebacivanje lopte preko mreze u cemu je odlicno naplatio svoje usluge od cega ce njegovi bliski ljudi moci veoma lepo da zive. Ionako je pri kraju karijere, ne mora vise ijedan slem odigrati, on je svoj pecat stavio, prvo time sto je veliki covek i humanitarac, pa tek onda veliki teniser. 

[Darko]

21 minutes ago, wwww said:

 

kakav sou!!!!

 

ovo se ne moze videti ni u latinoamerickim telenovelama, sigurna sam!

Ala bi bio fazon da se odluka poništi, grohotom bi se smejao 

[Brian Setzer]

Pročitao sam neke tvitove i komentare.

 

Nolence budalice, šta li ti tražiš više tamo i očekuješ, kakve crne žalbe, begaj odande i dobro razmisli o sledećim potezima u karijeri (ako smem da ti šapnem, vakciniši se Sinofarmom).

[wwww]

 

 

 

 

Here's where we're at - there's three pathways for the govt to go down in the next two hours:

1 - they agree to let ND stay until the final decision Monday

2 - they push to deport him tonight or tomorrow so the injunction needs to be decided tonight OR

3 - they still want to deport him but not straight away, so the injunction can be heard tonight with a decision later, or it can be pushed back to tomorrow.

 

 

ovo sad prelazimo na americke pravnicke serije

Edited January 6, 2022 by wwww

[wwww]

 

https://7news.com.au/politics/djokovic-moved-to-infamous-victorian-hotel-c-5205238

 

Television footage showed the world No.1 arriving at Park Hotel in Carlton on Thursday morning after his visa was refused on grounds of insufficient evidence, ahead of the Australian Open.

 

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The hotel has a chequered history.

For more than a year, the facility has housed detainees flown to Australia from Manus Island and Nauru for urgent medical care under now-defunct Medevac laws.

The detainees had previously been held at the Mantra Hotel in Preston.

More than 50 were freed on bridging visas in January last year, but about a dozen remained behind.

There was a COVID-19 outbreak at the hotel in October, with at least 22 of the 46 refugees and asylum seekers testing positive.

Two weeks ago, two fires broke out on the third and fourth floors. A person was taken to hospital with smoke inhalation and police said a staff member was assaulted.

Refugee advocates estimate about 32 men are detained there.

 

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"They have been held nine years. Perhaps the empathy of a man of Novak's profile will help them obtain freedom."

Before it was turned into a makeshift detention centre, the Park Hotel was used as a quarantine hotel in 2020.

Ninety per cent of cases from Victoria's second wave - which led to 18,000 infections, 800 deaths and a lockdown that lasted 112 days - were linked to an outbreak at the hotel, the state's hotel quarantine inquiry was told.

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by wwww

[berti]

Zalosno je sto se ni u jebenoj Rusiji ovako nesto ne bi moglo dogoditi. Pa Majkla Dzordana ne bi najurili taman da je u pasosu imao sliku Miki Mausa. Reci ce neko da je to jer su oni nesredjena drzava i gazda se meša u sve. A ovi carinici, ili ko vec, u Australiji su kao samostalno odlucili da najure Novaka bez naredbe vlasti. Hoce to, mozda u crtanom filmu.

Novak je blentav, ali valjda ce sledeci put kada daje srca pojedinoj publici spustiti ruke malo nize.

[Indig0]

Jel moguce da se od tenisera niko nije obratio? Raspustiti PTPA odmah cim izadje ako je to slucaj.

Navukao hejt Atpa zbog nezahvalnih idiota koji samo svoju guzicu gledaju.

Sto se mene tice moze i u penziju  ako ce ga ovako maltretirati pred svaki slem zbog vakcine, bolje bi mu bilo, nije mu ovo potrebno.

 

Mada tesko da ce on odustati, ima da opet uzme Nadalu RG cisto iz besa 😆 mislim da je ovde skupio motivaciju za celu sezonu pod uslovom da ga uopste puste da igra.

 

A ovim debilima zelim najgori turnir ikada i da pobedi Medo. 

Jbt Zverev ladno moze da bude prvi 😂😂

[neko me sabotira]

2 hours ago, Darko said:

Ala bi bio fazon da se odluka poništi, grohotom bi se smejao 

@McLeod izjasni se, pa da imamo ekskluzivu prije ostatka svijeta 😁

[wwww]

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/border-force-investigating-other-australian-open-players-after-djokovic-ban-20220106-p59md5.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1641452218-1

 

 

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The tennis star tried to enter Australia on Wednesday night on the basis that he had contracted COVID-19 in the past six months and therefore had a valid exemption for being unvaccinated, but this was rejected by Border Force.

 

Tennis Australia has claimed that other Australian Open participants have been allowed into the country after contracting COVID in the past six months, using the same exemption that Djokovic applied for.

 

This prompted Border Force to launch investigations into the other player and official. Federal government sources said the two others may also fall foul of the rules, but said every case was different and they may have other valid medical reasons for not being vaccinated.

 

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Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews on Thursday confirmed Border Force was now investigating the allegations and didn’t rule out more players being sent back home.

“I’m aware of those allegations, and I can assure you that the Australian Border Force is investigating that now,” Ms Andrews told 2GB. “ABF needs the opportunity to be able to conduct its investigation. But if the evidence is not there, then they will take the appropriate action.”

Three sources familiar with Djokovic’s paperwork on arrival, speaking anonymously to detail confidential documentation, said evidence to support the player’s exemption was “minimal” and was only supported by one doctor. They said it was far less substantive than the two other players and one official who entered the country with the same vaccine exemption.

 

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The other player and the official had more than one doctor supporting their claims of prior COVID infection, while one source said most of Djokovic’s paperwork was on a Tennis Australia letterhead. When border officials asked him and the Victorian government to produce more documentation, none was produced.

“It was totally insufficient and he couldn’t produce anything new. What else were we meant to do in the situation?” one senior Commonwealth source said.

 

pa j* ga, valjda je neko (AO) komunicirao kakva tacno dokumenta su potreban i koliko lekara treba da potvrdi da je imao zarazu?

i kako on da stvori dokumenta u Australiji ako ih nije poneo?

 

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Tennis Australia officials were privately fuming about the federal government’s decision on Thursday. One source said the move appeared to be motivated by politics and a desire to target a high-profile vaccine sceptic to boost the government’s popularity. They said Djokovic’s Instagram post and subsequent media interest sparked the federal government’s motivation to take a hard line.

 

“I don’t know how the feds will [address the fact that] several tennis players are already in the country with the same exemption granted to Novak,” the source said. “This looks to us like the feds are responding to the media by letting some players in but not the world no. 1.”

 

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The 20-time grand slam winner faces the prospect of being banned from Australia as a result of the visa bungle. Federal law dictates anyone whose visa is cancelled can face a ban on re-entering Australia of up to three years, though Border Force has discretion on when to apply these bans and it is unlikely to be slapped on a person who may have made unintentional errors.

 

The ban can be imposed if the person’s visa was cancelled because they were “considered to be a risk to the health, safety or good order of the Australian community”.

 

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Sources confirmed that the government had not ruled out imposing the ban on Djokovic, but cautioned this would depend on how the process plays out in court and Djokovic’s next moves.

Federal health authorities told Tennis Australia boss Craig Tiley on two occasions in writing that people who were not vaccinated and had contracted COVID-19 in the past six months would not be granted quarantine-free travel to Australia.

“In relation to your specific questions, I can confirm that people who contracted COVID-19 within six months and seek to enter Australia from overseas, and have not received two doses of a Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)-approved or TGA-recognised vaccine ... are not considered fully vaccinated,” Health Minister Greg Hunt wrote to Mr Tiley on November 29.

 

Tennis Australia wrote to players after receiving that advice but did not warn them about the vaccine requirement.

 

Djokovic’s visa was approved in November as part of an automated process.

 

Former deputy secretary of the Department of Immigration, Abul Rizvi, on Thursday said immigration authorities should have asked Djokovic questions about his vaccination status, and any exemptions he might have been seeking, when he initially applied for a visa.

But Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the visa approval process was separate from other requirements for entry at the border such as proving vaccination status.

 

 

 

[L' Imperatore]

6 hours ago, joshmor said:

ja sam vise razočaran teniserima,ama nijedan da zine i nesto kaže,ni zverev,ni medvedev,ni cilić uz koga je novak bio kad je optužen za doping 9i svi drugi...

 

jedino je matori nadal obavio svoje kako valja

 

Ima poneki. Mislim da je neko več kačio tweetove Stakhovskog. Sandgren bije bitku za Novaka več nekoliko dana 👑

 

A verovatno če se ovih dana javiti i ostali buntovnici, Opelka, Herbert, Pospisil. Možda čak i Nick

[double fault]

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Cait Kelly

 

We’ve got Djokovic supporters on the left and refugee advocates on the right. One Djokovic supporter just said to me “I feel so ignorant. I came here for him, and find out they’ve been locked up nine years. It’s so wrong.”

 

[deez nuts.]

Dobro jutro svima, osim australijskim zvanicnicima.