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Elon Musk’s Breeding Spree Is So Much Wilder Than You Thought

 

E, sad to je osvrt na članak u Wall Street Journal, al je iza pejvola, potrebna je pretplata ..

 

Ja sam dobio ulaz od drugara koji ima pretplatu, ne znam da li će i koliko dugo da radi:

 

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The Tactics Elon Musk Uses to Manage His ‘Legion’ of Babies—and Their Mothers

The world’s richest man juggles more than a dozen children and ‘harem drama’ along with running his companies and advising Trump. He recently took a paternity test in a battle with one woman over money and privacy.

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Ashley St. Clair and the child she had with Elon Musk. SARAH BLESENER FOR WSJ

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Ashley St. Clair wanted to prove that Elon Musk was the father of her newborn baby. 

But to ask the billionaire to take a paternity test, the right-wing social-media influencer had to go through Musk’s longtime fixer, Jared Birchall.

“I don’t want my son to feel like he’s a secret,” St. Clair told Birchall in a two-hour phone call in December. 

Birchall offered St. Clair some advice. His boss was a “very big-hearted, kind and generous person,” he said. But Musk had a different side. When a mother of his child goes “the legal route” in these discussions, “that always, always leads to a worse outcome for that woman than what it would have been otherwise,” Birchall told the 26-year-old. Plus, he said, Musk wasn’t sure the child was his.

It wasn’t the first such conversation for Birchall. His public job is running Musk’s family office, and he recently helped organize Musk’s more than $250 million push in support of Donald Trump’s election. 

Behind the scenes, Birchall also manages the financial and privacy deals Musk wants for the women raising the world’s richest man’s babies.

Musk has had at least 14 children with four women, including the pop musician Grimes and Shivon Zilis, an executive at his brain computer company Neuralink. Multiple sources close to the tech entrepreneur said they believe the true number of Musk’s children is much higher than publicly known. 

Musk offered St. Clair $15 million and $100,000 a month in support in exchange for her silence about the child, whom they named Romulus. Similar agreements had been negotiated with other mothers of Musk’s children, Birchall told St. Clair.

The fight with St. Clair over the terms of the deal for their baby has been going on as Musk has assumed one of the most influential roles in the U.S. government.

As a top adviser to President Trump, he has been slashing staff and billions of dollars from the federal government as the head of the Department of Government Efficiency, with massive benefit programs such as Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare in the crosshairs. 

President Trump acknowledged Musk after SpaceX’s successful crewed rocket launch in 2020. PHOTO: JOE RAEDLE/GETTY IMAGES

Jared Birchall, shown in 2019, runs Musk’s family office and also manages the financial and privacy deals for women who have Musk’s children. PHOTO: PATRICK T. FALLON/BLOOMBERG

Musk’s baby-making project is relevant to his ambition for NASA, which he wants to move faster to go to Mars. He said on X that making people multiplanetary is “critical to ensuring the long-term survival of humanity and all life as we know it.” 

In Musk’s dark view of the world, civilization is under threat because of a declining population. He is driven to correct the historic moment by helping seed the earth with more human beings of high intelligence, according to people familiar with the matter. 

His businesses are set up to serve the idea: The main objective of SpaceX is to build a rocket ship capable of getting to Mars, and his other companies, including electric-car maker Tesla, help finance the plan. 

Musk refers to his offspring as a “legion,” a reference to the ancient military units that could contain thousands of soldiers and were key to extending the reach of the Roman Empire. 

During St. Clair’s pregnancy, Musk suggested that they bring in other women to have even more of their children faster. “To reach legion-level before the apocalypse,” he said to St. Clair in a text message viewed by The Wall Street Journal, “we will need to use surrogates.” 

He has recruited potential mothers on his social-media platform X, according to some of the people. 

Musk has used his wealth to buy the silence of some women who have his kids, according to St. Clair as well as other people, text messages and documents reviewed by the Journal.

Nondisclosure clauses are part of some of the payment agreements. If the mothers push back or seek outside counsel, Musk’s advisers, including Birchall, have threatened financial retribution, according to the documents and people. 

Birchall described Musk’s expectations to St. Clair: “Privacy and confidentiality is the top of the list in every aspect of his life, every aspect, and his entire world is set up to be, like, a meritocracy.” Benefits flow, he said, when “people do good work.”

During the call with Birchall, St. Clair told him she had received outreach from a woman Musk had invited to have his baby. She said she was being caught up in Musk’s “harem drama.”

Musk in the Oval Office with his son X in February. PHOTO: AARON SCHWARTZ/CNP/ZUMA PRESS

The details of Musk’s baby mission are only now starting to spill into the public. Grimes begged Musk in February for help on X when one of their children was having a “medical crisis” because Musk wouldn’t engage with her. Earlier that month, after their 4-year-old son, also called X, had been on national television on his father’s shoulders as he talked about government cuts in the Oval Office, Grimes posted that “he should not be in public like this.” 

A person familiar with Musk’s thinking on the agreements with the mothers of his children said that Musk believes it is better to resolve these matters behind closed doors for the safety and security of the child.

‘Make new humans’

Musk has warned that “civilization is going to crumble” if people don’t start having more children, a view popularized as pronatalism in right-wing circles. The pronatalism movement is composed of people concerned about the birthrate and eager to implement policy and cultural solutions to the problem. 

Martin Varsavsky, a friend of Musk’s who founded a large chain of in vitro fertilization clinics in the U.S., said he has spoken with Musk about the risks of falling birthrates. 

“Without babies there’s no future, every problem becomes secondary to the problem of not having people on the planet,” said Varsavsky. “Elon believes that a country is not the geography, a country is the people.”

Musk on screen at an investment conference in Saudi Arabia in 2024. PHOTO: HAMAD I MOHAMMED/REUTERS

Speaking to an audience at an investment conference in Saudi Arabia last year, Musk laid out the urgency of the matter. “I think for most countries, they should view the birthrate as the single biggest problem they need to solve. If you don’t make new humans, there’s no humanity, and all the policies in the world don’t matter,” Musk told the crowd over a live video. 

When the interviewer joked that Musk was doing his part to address the issue, the billionaire agreed. “Yes. I am. I mean, you know, you’ve got to walk the talk. So, I do have a lot of kids, and I encourage others to have lots of kids.”

Separately, Musk has said he is concerned about what he called Third World countries having higher birthrates than the U.S. and Europe, a person familiar with the conversation said. 

One of the most important ways to change these dynamics, he has repeatedly told people close to him, is for educated people to have more children. 

In 2023, he had a meeting in Austin where people he described as Japanese officials asked him to be a sperm donor for a high-profile woman, according to a text message reviewed by the Journal. “They want me to be a sperm donor. No romance or anything, just sperm,” he texted St. Clair. Musk later told her he gave his sperm to the person who asked for it, without naming the woman. 

Special status

Vivian Wilson, one of Musk’s older children from his first wife, Justine Musk, said recently to Teen Vogue that she doesn’t know how many half-siblings she has in her family. Musk is now estranged from Vivian because he refuses to accept her identity as transgender. Justine Musk had six children with Musk, but one child died as a baby. 

Grimes, whose legal name is Claire Boucher, has three young children with Musk. She and Musk went through a custody battle but settled in August.

Musk offered his sperm to Zilis, and the two have four young children together. Zilis is viewed as a steadying force in Musk’s life and is the most prominent of Musk’s mothers. 

“He really wants smart people to have kids, so he encouraged me to,” Zilis told Musk’s biographer Walter Isaacson.

The Yale University graduate was a founding member of the investment team at Bloomberg Beta, and made Forbes’s “30 Under 30” venture capital list in 2015. Zilis also was a board member at OpenAI and worked at Tesla earlier in her career.  

Two people close to Musk described her as having “special status,” meaning Musk chooses to spend time at her home in Austin as well as bringing her to high-profile public events.

Musk and Shivon Zilis with Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and Jeff Bezos in January.EVAN VUCCI/AP

Musk and Zilis met with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in February with three of Musk's children.INDIA MINISTRY OF INFORMATION/ZUMA PRESS

In January, Zilis attended a black tie pre-inauguration candlelit dinner with Musk, and was photographed speaking to Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos and his fiancée, Lauren Sánchez. 

Weeks later, she was alongside Musk for a meeting with India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi at Blair House, the presidential guesthouse across the street from the White House, with two of their children and another of Musk’s in tow. 

‘Pick a name’

While Musk posts sometimes dozens of times a day on X about right-wing politics or his companies, among other things on his mind, he often interacts with lesser-known users. He replies to them and sometimes interacts through direct messages, some of whom he eventually solicits to have his babies, according to people who have viewed the messages. 

Cryptocurrency influencer Tiffany Fong was covering disgraced crypto tycoon Sam Bankman-Fried’s downfall when Musk started liking and replying to her posts. Musk’s interactions ramped up as Fong posted more political content in support of Trump, and Musk followed her last summer. 

That sort of attention from Musk on X, where he has 219 million followers, sent droves of followers to Fong, which was a financial boon. More engagement meant more earnings for her as part of a revenue-sharing program for creators on X.

Musk’s following was a financial boon for Tiffany Fong.

During the height of her interactions with the billionaire owner, Fong earned $21,000 on the platform in a two-week period in November, according to a screenshot she posted.

That was about when Musk sent her a direct message asking if she was interested in having his child, according to people familiar with the matter. The two had never met in person. 

Fong didn’t move forward with Musk because she pictured having children in a more traditional nuclear family, but confided to a few friends about the approach—including St. Clair, whom she knew as another conservative social-media figure—and how she worried that turning him down could hurt her earnings. 

Once Musk learned that Fong disclosed the request to others, he chided her for not using discretion, according to the people, and unfollowed her. That contributed to a fall in her engagement, and her earnings declined.

St. Clair and Musk had met earlier, in the spring of 2023, after Musk began interacting with the influencer’s posts on X and followed her account. Soon after, they were exchanging direct messages before Musk invited her to visit the social-media platform’s San Francisco office, and then the relationship turned romantic.

Musk invited St. Clair, who had been an operations manager at a conservative media company that owns The Babylon Bee, onto his private plane for a trip to Rhode Island where he was visiting one of his sons at college.

The first time they had sex, Musk joked that they should “pick a name” for their future child. He frequently talked to her about having children, she said. It was months later on a New Year’s trip to St. Barts, that she told him that she was ovulating. He asked her “what are we waiting for?” and the two conceived their son on that trip, St. Clair said.

Being in his circle brought with it access to a constant stream of texts, particularly about his growing involvement in Trump’s election. 

Before Musk publicly supported Trump, he texted her, “I can’t be President, but I can help Trump defeat Biden and I will.” In one text before Trump picked a running mate, viewed by the Journal, Musk asked St. Clair what she thought about Tulsi Gabbard as a vice presidential candidate, saying that in interviews she says “the right anti-establishment words.” 

While Musk was in Pennsylvania canvassing for Trump before the election, Musk sent a series of texts about the urgency of winning the state to St. Clair. “In all of history, there has never been a competitive army composed of women. Not even once,” he wrote. “Men are made for war. Real men, anyway.” He followed up with: “I am in full war mode. Going to the front lines today. Must win PA.”

Protecting Elon

In the December phone call, Birchall told St. Clair that his job was to “protect Elon.” He told her that he has been happily married to the same woman, but he has “been very involved in family law courts, very extensively” through his work for Musk. “I feel like I’ve been through, like, three divorces,” he said.

Justine Musk, shown in 2022. Musk’s former wife had six children with him. PHOTO: SPLASH NEWS/SHUTTERSTOCK

Birchall worked in finance before becoming one of the top consiglieres in Musk’s orbit. Musk recruited him from Morgan Stanley’s private wealth management group, where he was part of a small team managing the businessman’s money. 

The two men couldn’t be more different on the surface: Birchall is a practicing Mormon with a large family who works hard to keep a low profile. 

Birchall’s formal responsibilities are wide ranging, from disbursing funds for Musk’s super PAC to assembling the team that helped Musk take Twitter private. His role as intermediary between Musk and some of the mothers happens in the background.

Musk often has Birchall step in to handle negotiations with the women over arrangements for the pregnancy and financial support after. The arrangements play out in similar ways for the different women, according to a document and people familiar with the matter. 

Birchall was involved in acquiring the property for a compound in Austin where Musk imagined the women and his growing number of babies would all live among multiple residences, according to a person familiar with the matter. He is involved in other property deals across Musk’s different businesses. 

Zilis lives in the gated community with their children, and Musk comes and goes. Musk also attempted to get Grimes to move to the compound, but she refused. Similarly, he tried to get St. Clair to spend some time in Austin “with our kid legion,” according to a text he sent her.

Birchall said on the December call with St. Clair the NDAs are necessary. “We have been through way too many issues where, to not sign some agreement associated with handing over 15-plus million dollars is absolutely insane and irresponsible, and because we have dealt with some very unstable, mentally unstable, people that all of a sudden misremember things,” he said.

He added that his boss “cannot allow people to just go and share his life information. He is the biggest lightning rod on the entire planet.”

When Birchall told St. Clair that other mothers signed similar secrecy agreements, she observed that they didn’t seem happy. Zilis, Birchall said, “goes in and out of finding contentment” but Grimes wasn’t “ever going to find true happiness.”

‘I want to knock you up again’

Grimes claimed on X that her court battle with Musk over custody of their three children bankrupted her and that she had “a fraction of [Musk’s] resources (or iq/ strategy experience)” to navigate the family court system. 

Musk had sued Grimes in 2023 in Texas to establish the “parent-child relationship,” and Grimes countersued in California for primary physical custody. 

Grimes, left, arrived for a custody hearing at an Austin court last year. PHOTO: USA TODAY NETWORK/REUTERS

She alleged that Musk kept one of their children from her for five months and that, during court proceedings, Musk’s team dug up parts of her past to portray her as a bad mother. The two had dated in 2018 before having kids. 

Birchall featured prominently in Musk’s fight with Grimes, acting as a go-between for various negotiations between the musician and Musk. Birchall was also present in the Austin courtroom during their court fight. The case has been resolved and is now sealed. Grimes and Musk alternate weeks with the children, according to people familiar with the matter.

St. Clair had a front-row seat to the custody battle, since she was dating Musk at the time and he updated her on the deliberations.

A year later, she was in her own fight with Musk.

After becoming pregnant with their son, St. Clair and Musk’s relationship progressed with Musk sending her flowers on her birthday and Mother’s Day. St. Clair’s toddler from a prior relationship had playdates with Musk’s young children, and she and the toddler met Musk’s mother, Maye.

At one point St. Clair had a custom-made black “Make America Great Again” hat with Gothic style font made for Musk, a twist on the bright red cap. Musk wore it everywhere, even referencing it in stump speeches for Trump during the election. In November, Musk responded to a selfie she texted him saying: “I want to knock you up again.”

Musk, holding X, attended a Trump campaign event at New York’s Madison Square Garden last year with his mother, Maye Musk, left, and Melania Trump. PHOTO: ALEX BRANDON/ASSOCIATED PRESS

While she was pregnant, Musk had urged her to deliver the baby via caesarean section and told her he didn’t want the child to be circumcised. (Musk has posted on X that vaginal births limit brain size and that C-sections allow for larger brains.) St. Clair is Jewish and circumcisions are an important ritual in the religion, and she decided against a C-section. He told her she should have 10 babies, and they debated the child’s middle name. 

Once she became visibly pregnant, she mostly stayed inside her apartment so the pregnancy wouldn’t become public, she said. During her pregnancy, Musk instructed Birchall to send St. Clair $2 million for expenses, she said, with half of that amount structured as a loan, according to a text message viewed by the Journal. She used the funds in part to pay for security, which came to more than $100,000 a month, she said.

When she was in the hospital being induced for labor in September, Birchall texted her about leaving Musk’s name off the birth certificate, according to texts viewed by the Journal. Shortly before, she had hired an attorney, something Birchall had warned her not to do. 

She complied with the request to not name Musk on the birth certificate. Not long after the birth, Birchall pushed St. Clair to sign documents keeping the father of the baby and details regarding her relationship with Musk secret in return for financial support. The offer was a one-time fee of $15 million for a home and living expenses, plus an additional $100,000 a month until the baby turned 21.

Musk told her by text it was dangerous to reveal his relationship to the baby, describing himself as the “#2 after Trump for assassination.” He added that “only the paranoid survive.”

But she didn’t sign. The agreement prevented her from speaking about Musk in relation to the child or disparaging him, but didn’t bar Musk from speaking negatively about her if he wanted. St. Clair would have to pay back the $15 million lump sum if she broke the agreement. 

One of the main sticking points, she said, was that it would make her son feel illegitimate. The agreement didn’t provide support for their child if he became gravely ill or a trust fund or life insurance if Musk died before the child turned 21. The agreement would also not have an allotment for security expenses. 

St. Clair told Birchall she was being caught up in Musk’s ‘harem drama.’ PHOTO: SARAH BLESENER FOR WSJ

She also wanted a paternity test. Courts in New York, where St. Clair lives, require the test to sanction child-support agreements, said Karen B. Rosenthal, one of St. Clair’s attorneys. 

A few times, St. Clair tried to hash things out directly with the billionaire, but she said he ignored her texts. In February, when she learned of a tabloid preparing a story about their relationship, she decided to front-run it and posted about it on X, making everything public for the first time, she said. 

“Five months ago, I welcomed a new baby into the world. Elon Musk is the father,” she wrote. “I have not previously disclosed this to protect our child’s privacy and safety, but in recent days it has become clear that tabloid media intends to do so, regardless of the harm it will cause.”

Four days after the post, Musk eliminated the $15 million fee offer. Then, as they went to court to discuss paternity testing and Musk’s request for a gag order, he lowered the financial offer further, dropping her support to $40,000 a month, just as her legal fees were set to balloon in the fight.

On Thursday, the Journal contacted Musk for comment for this article. On Friday, St. Clair didn’t receive her scheduled child support payment from Musk, she said. Late on Tuesday, she said Musk’s team sent her $20,000, halving her stipend again.

“The timing of the reduction in payments from him are timed with disagreements on testing and gag orders. The only conclusion we can make is that money is being weaponized,” said Dror Bikel, another of St. Clair’s attorneys. St. Clair’s legal fees have exceeded $240,000, Rosenthal said.

The case is working its way through the New York Supreme Court, which ordered that Musk take the paternity test. 

On Friday, the results came back. A report from Labcorp stated that the “Probability of Paternity” was 99.9999%.

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[Nicklord]

Nije bitno kakav je lično ako dobro radi svoj posao... ili tako nešto

[Rex]

25 minutes ago, fancy said:

Ovo je na toliko nivoa bolesno:

 

Elon Musk’s Breeding Spree Is So Much Wilder Than You Thought

 

E, sad to je osvrt na članak u Wall Street Journal, al je iza pejvola, potrebna je pretplata ..

 

Ja sam dobio ulaz od drugara koji ima pretplatu, ne znam da li će i koliko dugo da radi:

 

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elon-musk-children-mothers-ashley-st-clair-grimes-dc7ba05c?st=TG118a&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

 

 

Arhiva (skoro) uvek radi. 🙂

 

https://archive.ph/cIp0z

[Beonegro]

Najnoviji izum - premotavanje kilometraže:

 

Tesla speeds up odometers to avoid warranty repairs, US lawsuit claims

 

 

April 17 (Reuters) - Tesla (TSLA.O), opens new tab faces a proposed class action claiming it speeds up odometers on its electric vehicles so they fall out of warranty faster, saving Elon Musk's company from having to pay for repairs.

The plaintiff Nyree Hinton alleged that Tesla odometer readings reflect energy consumption, driver behavior and "predictive algorithms" rather than actual mileage driven.

He said the odometer on the 2020 Model Y he bought in December 2022 with 36,772 miles on the clock ran at least 15% fast, based on his other vehicles and driving history, and for a while said he drove 72 miles a day when at most he drove 20.

Hinton, a Los Angeles resident, said this caused his 50,000-mile basic warranty to expire well ahead of schedule, leaving him with a $10,000 suspension repair bill that he thought Tesla should cover.

"By tying warranty limits and lease mileage caps to inflated 'odometer' readings, Tesla increases repair revenue, reduces warranty obligations, and compels consumers to purchase extended warranties prematurely," the complaint said.

[𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂]

I, tresla se gora rodio se mis. Elon napusta Washington, DOGE je uradio posao... osim sto nije smanjio potrosnju koliko su planirali od 2 triliona, nego je otpustio nekoliko desetina, mozda i stotinu hiljada ljudi, pozatvarao agencije koje su njemu licno smetale, pokupio sve podatke iz baze i to sve da bi 'smanjio' potrosnju za 8% od obecanog. Miline, kao i sve ostalo u ovoj administraciji... Veca steta nego korist. 

[djura.net]

Iskreno, ozbiljno sumnjam da ce Musk da napusti Washington i administraciju, njemu se business bukvalno raspada, sad je to vec ekspresan proces. Glavu iznad vode moze da odrzi jos samo kao drzavni ili paradrzavni uhljeb gde ce kroz korupciju i lukrativne poslove da odzi privid bogatstva i moci. Naravno, prvi korak je da se povuce iz tog prvog esalona oko Vrhovnog Klovna.

[Klotzen]

Ne verujem da će se odmetnuti, može samo da se distancira malo da u javnosti nije toliko izložen. On je sve ovo i radio da bi izvukao novac od države za Space X. Mislim da je to ono što ga najviše zaokuplja unazad par godina.

[djura.net]

@Klotzen

Da ga stvarno zanima Space X, sigurno se ne bi 'zaigrao sa Trumpom' niti pruzao podrsku profasistickoj partiji u De.

[Beonegro]

Elon je po svemu sudeći dobio da gradi protiv-raketni štit za američku vojsku. tzv. Golden Dome, tako da je on u svemu ovome dobro prošao, skinuće kajmak za posao koji je suštinski repliciranje onoga što već postoji u Izraelu, naravno tu će biti aneksa ugovora, prekoračenja troškova, modernizacija, održavanja... to što se danas najavljuje kao posao od 12 milijardi će lagano narasti na 50, ako bude imao nekog iz ove mafije na vlasti i nakon 2028. biće i više.

[𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂]

4 hours ago, Beonegro said:

Elon je po svemu sudeći dobio da gradi protiv-raketni štit za američku vojsku. tzv. Golden Dome, tako da je on u svemu ovome dobro prošao, skinuće kajmak za posao koji je suštinski repliciranje onoga što već postoji u Izraelu, naravno tu će biti aneksa ugovora, prekoračenja troškova, modernizacija, održavanja... to što se danas najavljuje kao posao od 12 milijardi će lagano narasti na 50, ako bude imao nekog iz ove mafije na vlasti i nakon 2028. biće i više.

 

Plus 3500% carina na solarne panele. 

 

[MeanMachine]

On 4/26/2025 at 11:21 AM, Beonegro said:

Elon je po svemu sudeći dobio da gradi protiv-raketni štit za američku vojsku. tzv. Golden Dome, tako da je on u svemu ovome dobro prošao, skinuće kajmak za posao koji je suštinski repliciranje onoga što već postoji u Izraelu, naravno tu će biti aneksa ugovora, prekoračenja troškova, modernizacija, održavanja... to što se danas najavljuje kao posao od 12 milijardi će lagano narasti na 50, ako bude imao nekog iz ove mafije na vlasti i nakon 2028. biće i više.

 

 

Vrlo upitno jer SpaceX a ni navodni partneri nista slicno nisu ikada napravili. Npr Lokid pravi satelite za rano upozorenje, radare, pvo ali pro sisteme plus imaju novu svemirsku raketu, koja je pre svega namenjena vojnim lansiranjima (vracaju se samo motori dakle cena lansiranja nije im bitna ali jeste pouzdanost) plus imace na raspolaganju u Bezosov New Glenn, obe rakete koriste metanski motor koji pravi Bezosov Blue Origin, i da obe rakete su imale 3 od 3 uspesna leta (Vulcan 2 a New Gleen 1).

 

Sa druge strane SpaceX se ozbiljno zaglibio sa Starshipom sad pominju nekakav Starship 2.0,pa ispada da ce Falcon 9 da im bude radni konj jos dugo a sad vec Falcon 9 nije toliko vau kad se pojavaljuju rakete na metan koje uspesno lete u svemir za razliku od Starshipa.

 

I da videh neki biser da Musk gura nekakav predlog preplate na njegov gloden dome, e to tek ce da se svidi Pentagonu samo tako, em ce da kosta em vrlo lako Musk moze da ga ponudi i drugima 😄

 

 

Edited May 1 by MeanMachine

[Beonegro]

9 hours ago, MeanMachine said:

Vrlo upitno jer SpaceX a ni navodni partneri nista slicno nisu ikada napravili.

 

To i kažem, on je dobio ugovor, a neće ništa od toga on praviti (jer ne zna), pokupiće izraelska softveraše koji su radili na njihovom štitu i postojeći hardver od Lockheed, Raytheon i co, ali će kajmak njemu. 

[Dzoni_m]

Gledam cenu Tesla shares i bukvalno mi nista nije jasno. Kako bre 280 opet kada imaju 20% manju prodaju, a EV trziste se nije smanjivalo......Lineup im je ocaj, Model 3 koji su "osvezili" pre godinu dana vec sada prodaju sa popustima. Nema razloga da Y bude drugaciji. Auto jeftiniji od modela 3 nece biti izbacen, MOdel S i X su stari ko biblije, mrezu superpunjaca su otvorili za ostale (znaci ni to vise nije exclusiva) Roadster nema ni u najavi a Cybertruck imaju na zalihama da nikada nece prodati.......Cak i one kredite koje su prodavali drugim poizvodjacima vise nisu izvor prihoda. Na osnovu CEGA ta cena deonica? Zato sto ce manje da se bavi DOGE-om? KOja je to logika jebote? 

Covek je zatrao trag kompaniji u delu populacije koji su njegovi kupci. Liberali nece da kupe Teslu, MAGA ekipa nikada nije ni htela. O cemu bre ovde radi? Najgori finansijski izvestaj imaju......Smejurija.

Edited May 2 by Dzoni_m

[Angelia]

6 hours ago, Beonegro said:

 

To i kažem, on je dobio ugovor, a neće ništa od toga on praviti (jer ne zna), pokupiće izraelska softveraše koji su radili na njihovom štitu i postojeći hardver od Lockheed, Raytheon i co, ali će kajmak njemu. 

I zato "izrael", tehnologija koja izlazi iz IDFa nema konkurenciju.

 

 

1 hour ago, Dzoni_m said:

Na osnovu CEGA ta cena deonica? Zato sto ce manje da se bavi DOGE-om? KOja je to logika jebote? 

Covek je zatrao trag kompaniji u delu populacije koji su njegovi kupci. Liberali nece da kupe Teslu, MAGA ekipa nikada nije ni htela. O cemu bre ovde radi? Najgori finansijski izvestaj imaju......Smejurija.

dobrodosao u capital markets. Ja godinama ne kontam kako bilo koja firma koja gubi 20 mil (bacam random numbers) moze da ima vrednost od 300 mil ili bilion. Ali tako je. Nove tehnologije, njegov povratak iz administracije signalizira investitorima bolja vremena.

[Nicklord]

1 hour ago, Dzoni_m said:

Gledam cenu Tesla shares i bukvalno mi nista nije jasno. Kako bre 280 opet kada imaju 20% manju prodaju, a EV trziste se nije smanjivalo......Lineup im je ocaj, Model 3 koji su "osvezili" pre godinu dana vec sada prodaju sa popustima. Nema razloga da Y bude drugaciji. Auto jeftiniji od modela 3 nece biti izbacen, MOdel S i X su stari ko biblije, mrezu superpunjaca su otvorili za ostale (znaci ni to vise nije exclusiva) Roadster nema ni u najavi a Cybertruck imaju na zalihama da nikada nece prodati.......Cak i one kredite koje su prodavali drugim poizvodjacima vise nisu izvor prihoda. Na osnovu CEGA ta cena deonica? Zato sto ce manje da se bavi DOGE-om? KOja je to logika jebote? 

Covek je zatrao trag kompaniji u delu populacije koji su njegovi kupci. Liberali nece da kupe Teslu, MAGA ekipa nikada nije ni htela. O cemu bre ovde radi? Najgori finansijski izvestaj imaju......Smejurija.

Teslina cena apsolutno nikad nije bila realna, i dok je Mask bio (izgledao) normalniji a ni sad 😄 Ja iskreno nikad nisam razumeo kako Tesla vredi više nego fazon svi ostali proizvođači zajedno a "jedva" prodaju nešto. Razumem da se veruje u njihovu tehnologiju, u Maska kao lidera ali opet.

 

[Dzoni_m]

Imalo je smisla kao “tech” kompanija koja se probija i pogotovu je imalo smisla kada je model 3 i model Y (u principu isti auto) poceo da se prodaje. Jeste bio odlican EV i da je trajektorija nastavljena moglo bi da se opravda. 

Cak je Cybertruck inzenjerski (48v sistem, steering by wire, pa cak i taj exoskeleton) bio odlican nacin kako da isprobas sve to i istreses bubice na gimmick proizvodu. Problem je sto je to sve razvijeno do 2018-te -2019. Od tada oni nisu apsolutno nista uradli. Tada je poceo Elon da luduje i pravi gluposti, posle uspeha da prokrene katastrofalne proizvodne probleme sa modelom 3. U realnosti, da je slusao ljude koji su mu pricali da roboti nece moci da zamene ljude, da ne moze potpuno da automatizuje proizvodnju, ne bio u tom problemu opste. Sicno i SpaceX. Decenija neupseha i problema, konacno je prekinuta i ono sto su se namucili da isprave konacno je pocelo da radi. Sto je sve 5, ali je problem sto ti treba da nastavis tim tempom. Oni su stali. Tesla pogotovu. 

 Zato je nemoguce da neko ne stavi prst na celo i da kaze cekaj malo, oni vise nemaju nikakvog keca u rukavu, razvoj je mrtav, prodaja nikakva. Line up, dosadan. Legacy proizvodjaci uvek mogu da odu u magacin i naprave parts bin special. I prodaju kao novi model. Koliko samo legandarnih automobila je nastalo upravo tako. Od Mercedesa 300SL, Porsche 924 (pa njegovih derivata), 911 ako hocemo iskreno, Golf GTi…….Ili prosto se prikljuce nekoj od trkacih serija, pa homologacija i eto specialnog modela. Tesla to nema. Ona ima gomiulu nerd-ova i left wing eco ratnika koji u stvari mrze automobile. A CEO im gura prst u oko. 

 

Edited May 2 by Dzoni_m

[𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂]

Jel se neko seca Tesla semi kamiona? To je trebalo da pocne da se prodaje 2019 ili 2020, pa odlozeno na godinu dana, pa navodno lista cekanja ogromna jer je Walmart narucio vise nego sto mogu da naprave za godinu dana i ... nista, kao i sve ostalo tresla se gora, rodio se mis. 

 

https://www.tesla.com/semi

 

Ovaj sajt izgleda isto od 2020 godine

 

Ne mogu ni da zamislim kroz kakav horor bi transporteri prolazili sa baterijom ako bi radilo kao na kolima

[ters]

Da se ne zaboravi:

 

DOGE Cuts

Initial promise (annual)      2,000,000,000,000

Revised promise (annual)  1,000,000,000,000

DOGE claimed (all years).     165,000,000,000

DOGE itemized (all years).      69,300,000,000

DOGE verifiable (all years).      16,291,000,000

DOGE verifiable (annual).          5,020,000,000

 

I jos nema hapsenja nikoga ko je tvrdio da ima 150 godina da bi dobijao uplate socijalnog...

Edited May 7 by ters

[nonick]

37 minutes ago, ters said:

Da se ne zaboravi:

 

DOGE Cuts

Initial promise (annual)      2,000,000,000,000

Revised promise (annual)  1,000,000,000,000

DOGE claimed (all years).     165,000,000,000

DOGE itemized (all years).      69,300,000,000

DOGE verifiable (all years).      16,291,000,000

DOGE verifiable (annual).          5,020,000,000

 

I jos nema hapsenja nikoga ko je tvrdio da ima 150 godina da bi dobijao uplate socijalnog...

 

ma nije taj sa 150 problem, nego onaj jedan sa 360 (He also said there was one person in the system listed as 360 years old. - Trump).

 

 

[𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂]

2 hours ago, nonick said:

 

ma nije taj sa 150 problem, nego onaj jedan sa 360 (He also said there was one person in the system listed as 360 years old. - Trump).

 

 

 

Mozak od gluposti da zaboli. Kako se samo sete?!

[Dragan]

Musk’s X blocks account of jailed Erdoğan rival

...

Critics have slammed the platform for having a "double standard," slamming how Musk proclaims to be a free speech absolutist but also complying with Ankara's government gag orders.

...

The firm's legal challenges to the government orders, including the one blocking İmamoğlu, may take years to conclude; 

the accounts in the meantime remain blocked.

[𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂]

U.S. pushes nations facing tariffs to approve Musk’s Starlink, cables show

Some countries have turned to the satellite internet firm in conjunction with trade talks, State Department staffers wrote. The U.S. has a strategic interest in countering Chinese internet providers, but Musk’s role complicates the picture.

 

 

Spoiler

Less than two weeks after President Donald Trump announced 50 percent tariffs on goods from the tiny African nation of Lesotho, the country’s communications regulator held a meeting with representatives of Starlink.

The satellite business, owned by billionaire and Trump adviser Elon Musk’s SpaceX company, had been seeking access to customers in Lesotho. But it was not until Trump unveiled the tariffs and called for negotiations over trade deals that leaders of the country of roughly 2 million people awarded Musk’s firm the nation’s first-ever satellite internet service license, slated to last for 10 years.

...

Lesotho is far from the only country that has decided to assist Musk’s firm while trying to fend off U.S. tariffs. The company reached distribution deals with two providers in India in March and has won at least partial accommodations with Somalia, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Vietnam, although this is probably not a comprehensive count.

...

A series of internal government messages obtained by The Post reveal how U.S. embassies and the State Department have pushed nations to clear hurdles for U.S. satellite companies, often mentioning Starlink by name. The documents do not show that the Trump team has explicitly demanded favors for Starlink in exchange for lower tariffs. But they do indicate that Secretary of State Marco Rubio has increasingly instructed officials to push for regulatory approvals for Musk’s satellite firm at a moment when the White House is calling for wide-ranging talks on trade.

 

Jel zato ceo cirkus sa tarifama? Sta je sledece, da sve drzave ukinu ostale provajdere? 

[fancy]

Jes da je za temu o onom drugom al tiče se ovog:

 

 

 

[Dragan]

Increase the birth rate, refine genetic material: Elon Musk and his dream of a men's breed

America's tech billionaires want genetically selected offspring. 

Behind the rhetoric of the rescue of mankind is the racist idea: only the best should multiply.

 

Spoiler

The facility on the edge of Austin, Texas, could also be called a breeding farm: a megavilla (1300 square meters of living space), built in "Toskan style" ("New York Times"), for Elon Musk's fourteen children. The neighbors only speak of "Fort Knox" because of the high fences, the countless cameras and the patrolling security personnel. These well-kept children-not the majority in bed, but in vitro-the 53-year-old TechMilliardär Musk does not only have a pleasure. The “baby project” (NZZ) is part of its master plan to save humanity and to conquer the space: The geniuses of the tesla- and SpaceX thousand allegedly drawn here are supposed to make humanity “multiplanetary” (musk)- and thus fit for Mars and other dream destinations of space. 

 

Human recording and perfection of man 

Is the more than a turned science fiction jacket? Elon Musk dismissed as a spinner, many of them wanted to - while he became the most wealthy person on earth. And the plan to pull a class of rule through a recycling class also propagate other tech billionaires, such as Sam Altman (Open Ai) or Peter Thiel (co -founder of PayPal, tech investor). Both invest billions in biotechnology companies. Both of them fabulous to use a selected offspring with Gentech, reproductive medicine and artificial intelligence. All of this may sound like a dystopian Netflix series. However, concerned, such as recently the "Guardian", refer to this recent development from Silicon Valley as "hipster eugenik". In fact, the genetically optimized birth planning is reminiscent of Eugenic thinking from the early 20th century: The idea of perfecting the human race through a targeted selection and sorting out supposedly inferior life. Is that in the Silicon Valley, in this valley of the privileged, where the sky is blue and the neighbor is at least a millionaire? Eugenik, once celebrated as a "science" of "racial improvement", unleashed a fateful furor in the 20th century. Inspired by Darwin, their advocates dreamed of breeding "superior" people.

What started as a supposedly progressive idea resulted in forced sterilizations and found a monstrous climax in the Nazis racial madness.

 

The new dream of pronatalism *

Of course, Musk and his Silicon-Valley ropet are not called Eugeniker, but are committed to pronatalism-the ideology that wants to increase the birth rate with political control and technological belief in progress. In her type of game, it also includes genetic optimization: Elon Musk, for example, chose, according to his own statements, preferably tied up highly educated mothers, others let embryos scan on genetic defects. "Pronatalism is a movement that has established itself in wealthy tech and venture capital circles," writes the American business magazine "Business Insider". One will never be able to say that the tech sizes have made a secret about their reproductive programs. In a post on his platform X, Musk wrote that "intelligent people should have more children" to keep society sustainable. Altman (40) chatted in an interview with the “Guardian” about his start-ups in the field of reproductive technology, including one that examines embryos for health features-which is the prerequisite for prenatal selection. Investor Marc Andreessen (53), co -founder of Andreessen Horowitz, said in an essay: "The best and smartest minds should reproduce to advance the world."

 

The couple of Simone and Malcolm Collins are undisputed flagship pronatalists. They studied in Stanford and Cambridge and then worked in the venture capital industry of the Silicon Valley. Today they live in Pennsylvania. So far they have four children, but want “at least seven” and “a maximum of thirteen”. Singe Collins had already freezing numerous egg cells years ago. The embryos used for their pregnancies were previously examined for genetic defects as well as potential cancer, depression, heart disease and obesity. In most western countries - for example in Germany or Switzerland - such a comprehensive gene screening is prohibited for ethical reasons.

"I would be very disappointed if Simones Uterus would no longer play along before we have at least seven children," Malcolm Collins only told the "Frankfurter Rundschau" a few days ago. The couple, who jointly published five books with pronatalistic ideas, do not want to stop in front of the mark of 13 babies that Musk set. How do these people react to criticism? Extremely calm. Simone Collins emphasizes to the "Business Insider" that her descendants "the new leadership in the world" would be ready to endure the "price" of criticism.

 

Silicon Valley says who can reproduce 

Pronatalism has become an ideological link between Tech-Bros such as Musk and Religious Conservatives in the White House in the United States. With J.D. Vance, even the Vice President of the United States is now open to pronatalism. In his first speech in this function, Vance announced: "I want more babies in the United States of America." A few weeks later, Donald Trump signed a regulation that provides for state support for in-vitro fertilization. In this alliance of techelite and political power structures, a technocratic vision manifests itself that is more than uncomfortable: a self -appointed elite determines who can reproduce, and thus ensures control over generations.

 

In Europe, at best, one reacts in astonishment, at least at least indifferent to this biopolitical birth movement from the United States. You only have to look at Hungary to see that this ideology has long since arrived in the Old World. The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán openly propagates a pronatalistic policy: tax reliefs, residential buildings and prohibitions on abortion are intended to increase the birth rates of the “right” population - migration, on the other hand, is strictly rejected. A policy that the Hungarian cultural scientist and journalist Magdalena Marsovszky refers to "reproductive racism". 

Elon Musk wants more babies - but only in the USA The cynicism of official population policy is also becoming increasingly clear in the United States. While the vision of genetically optimized descendants is cultivated in Silicon Valley, workers from Latin America are also deported massively. Bill Gates recently drew attention to a particularly eye -catching and particularly pounding form of this population -political double standards - publicly and in unusual sharp words. In a blog post, he wrote that the budget cuts proposed by the tech pronatalist and baby fan Elon Musk in international development programs would "cost hundreds of thousands of children in poor countries". How does the busy musk actually devote himself to his own offspring in his “Fort Knox”? If you want to believe his father Errol Musk (79): not at all. His son considers childhood education to be annoying, leaving them to the nanny, familiar Errol Musk to the South African podcast "Wide Awake". Errol also revealed: He himself has no sympathy for the weak and loser - and Elon is the same. 

 

Imagine: A world, populated by Lauter Elon-Musk-Klons-raised by Nannys, supervised by security guards, genetically optimized. 

And emotionally accessible as a Tesla in park mode.

 

* Pronatalism is strongly based on the ideology of the Longtermism - the conviction that the long -term survival of mankind must be above everything. Decisions should be measured whether you secure the continued existence of future billions. In Silicon Valley, both ideas for the reproduction strategy of a technocratic elite merge: children are no longer considered private happiness, but as a genetically optimized investment in a distant future that should only shape a few.