alcesta Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Nije mi baš jasno šta znači removal of rankings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 stvarno je nejasno, cucemo kad odluce .... Quote Adam_Addicott @AdamAddicott · 21s Sorry I meant to type ranking points! - it’s been a long day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 a evo je ova sto umislila da je glas razuma ...... Quote Marta Kostyuk 1h Hey, players. Is anyone actually aware that if @Wimbledon will be played without points, potentially the prize money drop will be over 50% as it’s turning into exhibition event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) op, op Quote BREAKING: The ATP have stripped Wimbledon of ranking points: "The ability for players of any nationality to enter tournaments based on merit, and without discrimination, is fundamental to our Tour." Quote The ITF now follow: "The ITF has today confirmed its decision not to grant ITF ranking points to Wimbledon in 2022 for Juniors and Wheelchair tennis events which form part of the Grand Slam tournament." Quote No ATP points at #Wimbledon 2022. Quote Statement from the ATP: ‘It is with great regret and reluctance that we see no option but to remove ATP Ranking points from Wimbledon for 2022.’ Edited May 20, 2022 by double fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggggggg Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 koja je poenta ovoga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Quote José Morgado @josemorgado · 3m - ATP and Challenger events in the UK keep their points as there are alternatives for RUS and BLR. - Point from 2021 (and half of the points from 2019 for those who keep it) should drop from the rankings in the end of Wimbledon 2022. - ATP still hoping Wimbledon changes ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcesta Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 A WTA? Nije fer da se igrači diskriminišu, ali kako je fer da niko ne može da brani poene od prošle godine? Trebalo je da nađu nešto bolje. Ili je ovo samo blef pa se nadaju da će Englezi da se predomisle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 i sad krece igranke bez prestanka Quote Sergiy Stakhovsky @Stako_tennis · 10mTo say that I am disappointed in @atptour would be understatement.. Never would expect that anyone can stand on the side of invaders and murderers… but it seems to me that even my fellow players feel sorry for invaders and collaborants from rus/blr..1/2 pa jos kad se ukljuce ukrajinke, bas me zanima sta je wta odlucio .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwin Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Quote The ability for players of any nationality to enter tournaments based on merit, and without discrimination, is fundamental to our Tour. The decision by Wimbledon to ban Russian and Belarusian players from competing in the UK this summer undermines this principle and the integrity of the ATP Ranking system. It is also inconsistent with our Rankings agreement. Absent a change in circumstances, it is with great regret and reluctance that we see no option but to remove ATP Ranking points from Wimbledon for 2022. https://www.atptour.com/en/news/atp-statement-removal-of-ranking-points-wimbledon-2022 Quote What will happen to the points earned at Wimbledon last year? Points earned at Wimbledon in 2021 will drop from players’ rankings as per ATP rules (52 weeks after the previous year’s event). As such, no points from Wimbledon will remain in a player’s ranking breakdown after this year’s event. https://www.atptour.com/en/news/atp-wimbledon-decision-2022-faq Edited May 20, 2022 by erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciao Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 A ako Novak osvoji W da li ce taj GS da se racuna u broj GS ova za GOAT a ili nece 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Quote José Morgado 1m No WTA points at #Wimbledon 2022 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Koja mafija upravlja tenisom da čovek ne poveruje. Da apsurd bude veći nagradiše Medvedeva sa No.1 , bonusima, mestom u istoriskim knjigama. Novak bi sada već po meni trebao da ih tuži medjunarodnoj sportskoj arbitraži za otimanje istog, što naravno neće učiniti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwin Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Jeste, sigurno ruska mafija upravlja tenisom, kako ne. Edited May 20, 2022 by erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) kad se uzme u obzir ko su clanovi u players council ne iznenadjuje ovakva odluka ‘The WTA has made the difficult decision to not award WTA ranking points for this year’s Wimbledon Championships.’ Edited May 20, 2022 by double fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciao Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 minute ago, erwin said: Jeste, sigurno ruska mafija upravlja tenisom, kako ne. Ruska sigurno nije jer je to sve nije u Novakovom interesu naprotiv, a srbija je prijatelj zar ne? ne bi rujke srbima to radile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwin Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Za ovo sranje treba da ukinu bodove Vimbldonu u narednih 5 godina, ne samo ove. Da Rubljov koji je na početku rata napisao "No war, please" u kameru ne sme da se takmiči samo zato što je pogrešne nacionalnosti je kolosalna svinjarija. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciao Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) Pa sranje je naravno ali zasto kaznjavati igrace? nek im oduzmu turnir i nek pravi GS na travi neka druga drzava, tako kaznjavas njih a ne igrace Edited May 20, 2022 by ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double fault Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 @wwww koliko to novak gubi bodova kad mu se oduzmu sa wim. pa ako ne ode na usa turneju i ona deportacija iz australije ? gde li ce biti na listi kad se sve to oduzme ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxy Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Pametna odluka, jer bi ovo otvorilo mogucnost da sledeca drzava gde se odrzava veliki turnir banuje igrace jer eto, doslo im. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keira Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Novakova jedina šansa da se kvalifikuje za završni Masters sezone je sada da osvoji RG (i to pod uslovom da bude rangiran izmedju 8 i 20 mesta) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Милица Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Stvarno glupo, znaci bice kaznjeni oni koji su prosle godine napravili dobar rezultat na W. Zar ne bi trebao W da bude kaznjen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcesta Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, double fault said: Sergiy Stakhovsky @Stako_tennis · 10mTo say that I am disappointed in @atptour would be understatement.. Never would expect that anyone can stand on the side of invaders and murderers… but it seems to me that even my fellow players feel sorry for invaders and collaborants from rus/blr..1/2 Trudim se da imam razumevanja za ovakve ispade Ukrajinaca ali brate mili... ti isti invaders and collaborants kako ih naziva su i njegovi fellow players koje je izjednačio sa ruskom vojskom. I kako da ga neko shvati ozbiljno? Je li već optužio RG da je na strani ubica i ratnih zločinaca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxy Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, alcesta said: Trudim se da imam razumevanja za ovakve ispade Ukrajinaca ali brate mili... ti isti invaders and collaborants kako ih naziva su i njegovi fellow players koje je izjednačio sa ruskom vojskom. I kako da ga neko shvati ozbiljno? Je li već optužio RG da je na strani ubica i ratnih zločinaca? I ne samo RG, nego svi turniri osim ovih u Engleskoj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, double fault said: @wwww koliko to novak gubi bodova kad mu se oduzmu sa wim. pa ako ne ode na usa turneju i ona deportacija iz australije ? gde li ce biti na listi kad se sve to oduzme ??? sto se Novaka i #1 tice stvari stoje ovako: za sada mu je sigurno 372 sedmice. da bi imao i 373. sedmicu mora da osvoji RG, a da Medvedev ne udje u finale. To bi znacilo da od 13.6. Novak ima 8410 bodova sve do zavrsetka Wimbldona 10.7. (ako ne bude igrao nista drugo, a trenutno nije prijavljen u Stutgartu, DenBoshu, Queensu/Halleu - mogao bi da trazi WC). 11.7. bi imao 6410 bodova. Medvedev je trenutno na 7980 bodova, kad mu se oduzme 360 od RG prosle godine ostace na 7620. Na to treba dodati sta god da osvoji u Parizu. On potom igra DenBosch, pa Halle (brani 90 bodova) i verovatno Majorku (gde brani titulu). Kad mu se oduzmu proslogodisnji bodovi s turnira pred Wimbldon ostaje mu 7280 bodova, na koje se onda dodaju bodovi iz ove godine. Sto znaci da on posle Wimbldona 11.7. sigurno postaje #1. Novak ima maksimalno sansu da dodje do 377 sedmica na #1. Novak je trenutno na race listi #10 (1620 bodova). Ako osvoji RG imace 3610 bodova. To znaci da Nadal ne moze dalje od QF (360 bodova) sto je max. 3980 bodova, Alcaraz onda moze imati max. 4180 (SF i 720 bodova) a Zverev 2340 (QF i 360 bodova) odnosno ako Zverev stigne do SF onda imamo Alcaraza na 3820 a Zvereva na 2700. Felix bi onda ispao u 1/8 i imao 2205, Rubljov npr. u SF i imao 2640. Znaci, Novak bi mogao da bude 4. na race listi (iza Tsitsipasa, Nadala, Alcaraza). S 1620 bodova osvojenih ove godine Novak bi trenutno bio #26 (ispred Isnera). Ako bi osvojio RG s 3610 bodova bi sad bio #11 (ispred Norrie-a). Novak bi mogao da usvoji taktiku Medvedeva: da igra tamo gde moze (ako ga Kanada i US ne budu pustili da igra masterse i USO): da igra Queens (manja konkurencija, a daju 500 bodova), potom moze da igra Hamburg (jos 500 bodova u opticaju), Gstaadt, Umag, LosCabos u Meksiku, Metz, Sofiju, Tokio (ne verujem da ce se igrati Kina), Antwerpen, Bec/Basel i eventualno Pariz (ako Francuska ponovo ne uvede pravilo o obaveznoj vakcinisanosti za indoor manifestacije). S RG titulom bi trebalo da (po nekim pravilima) definitivno upadne u zreb za WTF (jer tu upada jeda GS nosilac ako nije u top #8 na kraju godine u race), a mogao bi i skupljanjem ovih bodova s manjih turnira da dodje dotle. Tu jedino treba pogledati pravilo o bodovima s mastersa. On nema obavezu ni jedan da igra, ali mu se samo 2 rezultata s mastersa mogu zameniti nekim dobrim rezultatom s mmanjih turnira. Znaci, ima fore za 4 rezultata s 500 turnira i jos 4 s 250 i 500 turnira. (ovo kako ja trenutno tumacim ATP pravila, mozda ima nesto sitnim slovima sto nisam isprratila) Procitala sam pre neki dan neki komentar da ce Wimbldon prepoloviti nagradni fond ako se ne budu davali bodovi vec se bude tretirao kao egzibicija (ne znam koliko je ovo tacno). Pitanje je da li ce se Wimbldon racunati kao validan GS u ovoj situaciji, tj. u trci za tenisera s najvise GS titula. Moze biti da nece. Cime bi trenutno situacija bila sledeca: Novak izbacen s AO, ne racuna se Wimbldon, ne moze na USO - znaci u startu je sprecen da osvoji 3 GS titule. a na RG je Nadal glavni favorit. Eto kako politika moze da utice na rekorde i sportske rezultate... Edited May 20, 2022 by wwww 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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