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[urosg3]

Just now, alpaka Bereta Sida said:

@urosg3 vidim na ovom Twitter accountu navode da je oboren Su-35 

 

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Moguće, dovoljno su slični da u ovakvom stanju i bez broja ne mogu da budem siguran. Ili je 34 ili 35. Pre bih zbog širine nosa tipovao da je 34, ali je sasvim moguće i da je 35 pa se raspao ovako.

[urosg3]

Ne znam da li je neko kačio dok sam bio opravdano odsutan

Ova taktika uoptrebe Kamova i Mi-28 bi u načelu davala neke šanse Mi-28, ili Mi-24, to što ishod nije dobar po 28 je rezultat dobrog komandovanja, profesionalno raspoređene PVO i motivisanog strelca i odličnog VOJIN-a.

[Gistro Bančo]

1 hour ago, Constantin said:

Kad ti kažu da se ne pomeraš, a ti ipak ne slušaš...

 

Meni se ono pomjeranje cini kao kap vode na sofersajbni koja je pomjerila na gore. Ne ruka. A ustajanje..djeluje sumnjivo na prvu ali se cini da je rijec o zakrivljenom ogledalu retrovizora i suzenju i izduzenju onoga sto se

vidi na njemu. 
Od svega meni su sumnjive bijele trake na rukama zrtava..zar to nisu bile oznake onih koji podrzavaju Ruse? Mada mozda su ih ljudi koristili da se oznace kao obicni civili. 
 

Edited April 3, 2022 by Gistro Bančo

[Constantin]

4 minutes ago, Gistro Bančo said:

Meni se ono pomjeranje cini kao kap vode na sofersajbni koja je pomjerila na gore. Ne ruka. A ustajanje..djeluje sumnjivo na prvu ali se cini da je rijec o zakrivljenom ogledalu retrovizora i suzenju i izduzenju onoga sto se

vidi na njemu. 
 

Da, kad bi padala kiša. Vetrobransko staklo je suvo, a deo koji je prljav pokazuje da unazad nekoliko sati nije bio tretiran vodom.

Kap vode, pod ovim uglom, možda bi mogla da krene "na gore" ali pod uslovom da je brzina, kojom se kreće auto bar 130-140 km/h, što ovde nije slučaj, svakako.

[PorodicneVrijednosti]

Ovaj vec lici na pilota borbenog aviona.

9 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Da, kad bi padala kiša. Vetrobransko staklo je suvo, a deo koji je prljav pokazuje da unazad nekoliko sati nije bio tretiran vodom.

Kap vode, pod ovim uglom, možda bi mogla da krene "na gore" ali pod uslovom da je brzina, kojom se kreće auto bar 130-140 km/h, što ovde nije slučaj, svakako.

 

 

 

[Gistro Bančo]

6 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Da, kad bi padala kiša. Vetrobransko staklo je suvo, a deo koji je prljav pokazuje da unazad nekoliko sati nije bio tretiran vodom.

Kap vode, pod ovim uglom, možda bi mogla da krene "na gore" ali pod uslovom da je brzina, kojom se kreće auto bar 130-140 km/h, što ovde nije slučaj, svakako.

Slazem se svakako da sve treba uzeti sa dozom rezerve.  Negdje postoji kvalitetnija verzija snimka koju sam vidio i ne djeluje kao ruka. Trazim pa ako nadjem postavim. 

[Constantin]

Slazem se svakako da sve treba uzeti sa dozom rezerve.  Negdje postoji kvalitetnija verzija snimka koju sam vidio i ne djeluje kao ruka. Trazim pa ako nadjem postavim. 

Ma ne gubi vreme, i onako će da vidi svako ono što hoće. Ima tu još sumnjivih stvari...nego...

[Beonegro]

 

Izuzetno glupo i opasno ponašanje dotičnih ukrajinskih civila:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-soldiers-poisoned-civilians-izium-b2049955.html

Edited April 3, 2022 by Beonegro

[Mama_mia]

21 hours ago, Kooineeperk said:

Aha, to tako ide, porucis online pa imas 14 dana da vratis bez da iko ista pita. Vazi. Kakvo naivno shvatanje stvari.

Prvo, da bi bio primljen u NATO, moras da ispunis set uslova, da zanemarim politicke (od kojih je jedna da priznajemo suverenitet ostalih zemalja i da imamo dobre odnose sa susedima) ali postoje odredjeni vojni kriterijumi kako bi mi uopste bili kompatibilni sa NATO sistematizacijom vojske. To nije nesto sto tek tako uradis, pa se onda predomislis. 

 

Drugo, Finska, Svedska, Irska, Svajcarska, i ko jos - sto one malo ne probaju?  

 

 

Covece, sa kakvim predrasudama ti nastupas ovde 🙂 

 

Kakve to predrasude? (covece kazes, koji covece)

a za ono ostalo, od sada cu u zagradi ili vec nekako da signaliziram kad je nesto ironija da ne dodjemo do toga da mi objasnjavas sta sve `moram da uradim kako bi me Nato prigrlio`

(ti ces sada reci nesto pa ja nesto,  pa cemo se vrteti u krug smarajuci sve redom i na kraju postati u svojim prepiskama kao dve forumasice sto se jure po USA temi)

 

Inace to sto kazem za pristup nato, nisam ni mislila da probam nato i ako mi se ne dopadne da vratim proizvod nazad,

 to je bilo navlaka nesto kao zakulisna igra da navucem srb u nato i da vise ne moze iz natoa da izadje...dok sve vreme misli da moze

(samo nemoj reci da je ovo naivno ili saljivo razmisljanje - jer naravno da jeste)

 

Da kazem i to da je sjajno kada se srbija poredi sa finskama svedskama svicarskama po neulasku u nato

i NI PO CEMU vise.... xaxaxa, taj manir poredjenja sa severnom i srednjom evoropom imaju i neki politicari u srb ali koliko vidim nisu vise pozeljni i upravo danas se takvi ruse na izborima...racunam ako ne postoji politicka volja kod jednih postojace kod drugih

 

 

19 hours ago, djura.net said:

vidim da ovde postoji konsenzus da se NATO nece 'umesati', ali ja u to vise uopste nisam siguran. priznajem da sam na pocetku invazije i ja tako mislio, ali sad mi se sve vise cini da je i 'javno mnjenje' dovoljno 'skuvano' da prihvati ozbiljan rat sa Rusijom i Belorusijom. U principu, sto pre isprovociraju Putina da se lati nuklearnog arsenala, pre ce NATO i krenuti u rat.

 

nece nato provocirati putina vec se ceka da putin isprovocira nato na neki nacin koji moze da postane jak okidac,

recimo

tako sto ce baciti npr. petardu na teritoriju okolnih nato zemalja...momenat kada ce se putin latiti nukleara, bice kada bude pregazen i tu je taj problem zbog cega se ne mesaju - jer znaju da ce ovaj biti pregazen i znaju da ce potegnuti za finalnim resenjem

 

...sve mi se cini da pisem jedan isti post drugacijim recima sto puta,

finalno resenje sam pomenula ko zna koliko puta...ali to je scenerio koji bar meni izgleda da se desava

 

 

 

 

[Constantin]

36 minutes ago, alpaka Bereta Sida said:

 

 

 

 

 

Hm...ovo izgleda drugačije, istina. Videćemo.

[Kooineeperk]

18 minutes ago, Mama_mia said:

 

Kakve to predrasude? (covece kazes, koji covece)

"Covece" se ne odnosi na tebe, tvoj pol, vec uzrecica.

 

Predrasuda tvoja da cu pomisliti da ti mislis da Srbija ne treba da postoji. Bez smajlija, bez icega... Evo ispod citat:

  

On 4/2/2022 at 5:34 PM, Mama_mia said:

ps. ne srbija vec nato da li da postoji, da nisam objasnila tacno bi ispalo da sam napisala za ovo prvo

 

 

 

 

Sto se ostalog tice - ja necu kao neki ovde reci da ti pises gluposti ili da lupas. Ponovicu ono sto sam vec rekao - da na stvari gledas veoma naivno. Iznela si jasan stav da bi ti na mestu Srbije usla u NATO pa ako nam se ne svidja da izadjemo. Da li si se salila ili ne, ne interesuje me, bilo bi glupo da jesi jer je tema ozbiljna, i ja sam ozbiljno taj tvoj stav shvatio i obrazlozio ti zasto je to naivno razmisljanje. 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Mama_mia said:

Da kazem i to da je sjajno kada se srbija poredi sa finskama svedskama svicarskama po neulasku u nato

i NI PO CEMU vise....

Mene su kao malog vaspitali da se poredim sa boljima a ne sa losijima pa da se zadovoljim sto sam bolji od njih. 

 

 

[PorodicneVrijednosti]

Haha dugo je trebalo da propadne Putinov ultimatum za placanje gasa u rubljama. Tone bolesnik sve dublje i dublje, nadam se do konacnog pada i raspada Mordora.

[Hamilton]

Idemooooo, samo neka propadne satrapija! Litvanija rekla shut the fuck up!!

[ters]

8 minutes ago, alpaka Bereta Sida said:

Haha dugo je trebalo da propadne Putinov ultimatum za placanje gasa u rubljama. Tone bolesnik sve dublje i dublje, nadam se do konacnog pada i raspada Mordora.

 

Nema razloga za slavlje - Slovaci rekli da su spremni da placaju gas u rubljama.

 

 

 

[Klotzen]

3 hours ago, alpaka Bereta Sida said:

 

 

 

Ja sad gledam ovo je tvrdnja ruskog ministarstvo odbrane. Tek sada ne verujem u ništa od svega toga. Ja mislio neki rusofil na tviteru, pa i da razume čovek. Navija čovek pa vidi što bi on voleo. Ali ako iza te tvrdnje stoji MOD Rusije to je 100% izmišljotina da bi se skrenula tema sa te priče i našlo neko opravdanje.

 

Elem, mogući razlog tog ubijanja civila bi mogao biti ovo stradanje Rusa tokom povlačenja :

 

 

 

Postoji jedan snimak gde neki deda plače i priča da su ih gađali tenkovi iz daljine, ako naletim ponovo na taj video tek sada povezujem to sa ovim videom.

 

Ujedno kada smo pričali zašto se Ukrajinci sigurno neće povući iz Donbasa bez obzira što postoji mogućnost da budu opkoljeni ovo vam je primer koliko je vojska ranjiva u povlačenju. E sad ako su Ukrajinci sposobni za ovo zamislite tek kako bi Rusi izudarali Ukrajinske kolone u povlačenju. U Donbasu će biti povlačenja samo posle borbi i to sa jednog do drugog utvrđenog polažaja. Ako neko ostane okružen bolje i to nego da budu glineni golubovi kao ovi Rusi.

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by Klotzen

[PorodicneVrijednosti]

12 minutes ago, Klotzen said:

Ja sad gledam ovo je tvrdnja ruskog ministarstvo odbrane. Tek sada ne verujem u ništa od svega toga. Ja mislio neki rusofil na tviteru, pa i da razume čovek. Navija čovek pa vidi što bi on voleo. Ali ako iza te tvrdnje stoji MOD Rusije to je 100% izmišljotina da bi se skrenula tema sa te priče i našlo neko opravdanje.

Fasisti iz Kremlja su vec izdali saopstenje da su snimci iz Buce izrezirani i klasicna provokacija. Risto Djogo bi im pozavidio na bolestima koje pricaju.

[MeanMachine]

6 hours ago, urosg3 said:

Ne znam da li je neko kačio dok sam bio opravdano odsutan

Ova taktika uoptrebe Kamova i Mi-28 bi u načelu davala neke šanse Mi-28, ili Mi-24, to što ishod nije dobar po 28 je rezultat dobrog komandovanja, profesionalno raspoređene PVO i motivisanog strelca i odličnog VOJIN-a.

 

Kažu starstreak a po snimku deluje da jeste.

[Klotzen]

Neko je pitao za dronove ubice koje šalju SAD Ukrajini. Bila je vest prošle nedelje da je u toku obuka u Poljskoj za Ukrajince. Ono što je gadno vezano za te dronove, a videli smo to u ratu u Nargorno Karabahu, je što taj dron može da "ušeta" u bunker i pobije tamo komplet posadu. To Artiljerija i avioni ne mogu. E sad koliko će ih Ukrajina dobiti do je pitanje, pošto treba dosta tih dronova da bi odigrali neku bitniju ulogu.

[erwin]

 

[ters]

 

Pro-Ruski konvoj u Berlinu. 

 

[MeanMachine]

7 hours ago, Klotzen said:

Neko je pitao za dronove ubice koje šalju SAD Ukrajini. Bila je vest prošle nedelje da je u toku obuka u Poljskoj za Ukrajince. Ono što je gadno vezano za te dronove, a videli smo to u ratu u Nargorno Karabahu, je što taj dron može da "ušeta" u bunker i pobije tamo komplet posadu. To Artiljerija i avioni ne mogu. E sad koliko će ih Ukrajina dobiti do je pitanje, pošto treba dosta tih dronova da bi odigrali neku bitniju ulogu.

 

Plus nemas bas bunkere na ruskoj strani oni su osvajači dakle pre svega se kreću po bojištu a najveće gubitke imaju kad ih poklopi artiljerija sto je i logicno. Kombinacija dron izviđač i artiljerija se pokazala bas ubitačna na obe strane.

[MeanMachine]

12 hours ago, alpaka Bereta Sida said:

Haha dugo je trebalo da propadne Putinov ultimatum za placanje gasa u rubljama. Tone bolesnik sve dublje i dublje, nadam se do konacnog pada i raspada Mordora.

 

Ma to je ložana naših putinofila kao gasna rublja a ne kontaju da petrodolar postoji jer svi su prihvatili ga a gasrublju samo Rusija i to ko način da evri direktno stignu u Rusiju.

[Devil In My Pants]

 

[erwin]

Svež (juče objavljen) podugačak programski tekst na sajtu ruske državne agencije RIA zalaže se za potpuni raskid sa Zapadom, negira postojanje ukrajinske nacije i poziva na rasparčavanje Ukrajine po metodu pravljenja narodnih republika uz zatiranje ukrajinskog identiteta, pri čemu bi i u krnjem "katoličkom" preostalom demilitarizovanom delu na njenom krajnjem zapadu bile instalirane ruske trupe koje bi garantovale "neutralnost".

 

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What Russia Should Do to Ukraine

Back in April of last year we wrote about the inevitability of Ukraine's denazification. We do not need a Nazi, Banderite Ukraine, an enemy of Russia and an instrument of the West to destroy Russia. Today the issue of denazification has moved to the practical plane.
Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people - most likely, its majority - is mastered and dragged by the Nazi regime into its politics. That is, when the hypothesis "the people are good - the government is bad" does not work. The recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its activities, and the fact itself constitutes its subject.
Ukraine is in precisely this situation. The fact that Ukrainian voters voted for "Poroshenko's peace" and "Zelensky's peace" should not be misleading - Ukrainians were quite satisfied with the shortest way to peace through a blitzkrieg, which the last two Ukrainian presidents hinted transparently at when they were elected. This very method of "appeasement" of internal anti-fascists - through total terror - was used in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol, and other Russian cities. And it suited the Ukrainian average citizen quite well. Denazification is a set of measures towards the Nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be directly punished as war criminals.
Nazis who have taken up arms must be destroyed on the battlefield to the maximum extent possible. No significant distinction should be made between the AFU and the so-called Natsbat, as well as the territorial defense that joined these two types of military formations. All of them are equally complicit in outrageous cruelty against civilians, equally guilty of genocide of the Russian people, and do not observe the laws and customs of war. War criminals and active Nazis should be approximately and demonstrably punished. A total lustration must be carried out. Any organizations that have associated themselves with the practice of Nazism must be eliminated and banned. However, in addition to the top brass, a significant portion of the mass of the people who are passive Nazis and Nazi collaborators is also guilty. They supported and indulged the Nazi power. Just punishment for this part of the population is only possible as the bearing of the inevitable burdens of a just war against the Nazi system, waged as gently and discreetly as possible against civilians. The further denazification of this mass of the population consists in re-education, which is achieved by ideological repression (suppression) of Nazi attitudes and severe censorship: not only in the political sphere, but necessarily also in the sphere of culture and education. It was through culture and education that the deep mass Nazification of the population was prepared and carried out, consolidated by the promise of dividends from the Nazi regime's victory over Russia, Nazi propaganda, internal violence and terror, and the eight-year war with the rebel Ukrainian Nazi people of Donbass.
Denazification can only be carried out by the victor, which presupposes (1) his unconditional control over the denazification process and (2) the power to ensure such control. In this respect, the denazified country cannot be sovereign. The denazifying state - Russia - cannot proceed from a liberal approach to denazification. The ideology of the denazifier cannot be challenged by the guilty party undergoing denazification. Russia's recognition of the need for denazification of Ukraine means the recognition of the impossibility of the Crimean scenario for Ukraine as a whole. However, this scenario was also impossible in 2014 in the rebellious Donbass. Only eight years of resistance to Nazi violence and terror led to internal cohesion and a conscious, unequivocal mass refusal to maintain any kind of unity and connection with Ukraine, which defined itself as a Nazi society.

The time frame for denazification can in no way be less than one generation, which has to be born, grow and mature under the conditions of denazification. The nazification of Ukraine has lasted for more than 30 years - beginning at least in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism received legal and legitimate forms of political expression and led the movement for "independence" towards Nazism.
The peculiarity of today's Nazified Ukraine is its amorphous and ambivalent nature, which allows Nazism to be disguised as a desire for "independence" and a "European" (Western, pro-American) path of "development" (in reality, degradation). (in reality - to degradation), to claim that "there is no Nazism in Ukraine, only private sporadic excesses. There is no main Nazi party, no Führer, no full-fledged racial laws (only a stripped-down version in the form of repression of the Russian language). As a consequence, there is no opposition and no resistance to the regime.
However, all of this does not make Ukrainian Nazism a "light version" of the German Nazism of the first half of the twentieth century. On the contrary - since Ukrainian Nazism is free of such "genre" (political-technological in essence) frameworks and restrictions, it unfolds freely as the fundamental basis of all Nazism - as European and, in its most developed form, American racism. Therefore, denazification cannot be carried out in a compromise, based on a formula such as "NATO - no, EU - yes". The collective West itself is the designer, source and sponsor of Ukrainian Nazism, while the Western Bandera cadres and their "historical memory" are only one of the instruments of Nazification of Ukraine. Ukronazism is no less of a threat to peace and Russia than Hitler's German Nazism was.
The name "Ukraine" apparently cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity on territory freed from the Nazi regime. The People's Republics newly established in Nazi-liberated territory must and will grow out of the practice of economic self-government and social welfare, the restoration and modernization of the population's life-support systems.
Their political aspirations in fact cannot be neutral - redemption of guilt towards Russia for treating it as an enemy can only be realized in reliance on Russia in the processes of reconstruction, revival and development. No "Marshall Plan" for these territories should be allowed. There can be no "neutrality" in the ideological and practical sense, compatible with denazification. The cadres and organizations that are the instruments of denazification in the new denazified republics cannot help but rely on the direct power and organizational support of Russia.
Denacification will inevitably be de-Ukrainianization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of the self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Malorossia and Novorossia, started by the Soviet authorities. As a tool of communist superpower, after the fall of communist power, this artificial ethnocentrism did not remain orphaned. In this service capacity, it was taken over by another superpower (power over states) - the superpower of the West. It must be returned to its natural boundaries and stripped of its political functionality.
Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic states, Ukraine, as history has shown, is impossible as a nation-state, and attempts to "build" one lead inevitably to Nazism. Ukrainianism is an artificial anti-Russian construction, which has no civilizational content of its own and is a subordinate element of a foreign and alien civilization. Debanderization by itself will not be enough for denazification - the Banderite element is only a performer and a screen, a disguise for the European project of Nazi Ukraine, so the denazification of Ukraine is also its inevitable de-Europeanization.
The Banderovite top brass must be liquidated; its re-education is impossible. The social "swamp," which actively and passively supported it through action and inaction, must survive the hardships of the war and assimilate the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for its guilt. Those who did not support the Nazi regime, who suffered from it and the war it unleashed in Donbass, must be consolidated and organized, must become the support of the new power, its vertical and horizontal. Historical experience shows that wartime tragedies and dramas benefit peoples who have been seduced and carried away by the role of Russia's enemy.
Denazification as the goal of the special military operation itself is understood as a military victory over the Kiev regime, liberation of territories from armed supporters of Nazification, elimination of irreconcilable Nazis, capture of war criminals, and creation of systemic conditions for subsequent peacetime denazification.

The latter, in turn, should begin with the organization of local self-government, police and defense, purged of Nazi elements, launching on their basis the founding processes of the new republican statehood, integrating this statehood into close cooperation with the Russian agency for the denazification of Ukraine (newly created or remade, say, from Rossotrudnichestvo), with the adoption under Russian control of a republican regulatory framework (legislation) for denazification, defining its borders and frameworks directly Russia should act as a custodian of the Nuremberg Trials in this regard.
All of the above means that in order to achieve the goals of denazification, the support of the population is necessary, their transition to Russia after liberation from the terror, violence and ideological pressure of the Kiev regime, after being removed from the informational isolation. Of course, it will take some time for people to recover from the shock of military action, to become convinced of Russia's long-term intentions - that "they will not be abandoned. It is impossible to foresee in advance in which territories such a mass of the population will constitute a critically needed majority. "The Catholic province" (Western Ukraine, comprised of five regions) is unlikely to be part of the pro-Russian territories. The line of exclusion, however, will be found experientially. Ukraine, hostile to Russia, but forcibly neutral and demilitarized, will remain behind it, with Nazism forbidden on formal grounds. Russia-haters will go there. A guarantee that this residual Ukraine will remain neutral should be the threat of an immediate continuation of the military operation if the aforementioned requirements are not met. This would probably require a permanent Russian military presence on its territory. From the alienation line and up to the Russian border would be the territory of potential integration into the Russian civilization, anti-fascist in its inner nature.
The operation for the denazification of Ukraine, which began with the military phase, will follow in peacetime the same logic of stages as the military operation. At each of them it will be necessary to achieve irreversible changes, which will be the results of the corresponding stage. In doing so, the necessary initial steps of denazification can be defined as follows:
-Liquidation of armed Nazi formations (by which we mean any armed formations of Ukraine, including the AFU), as well as the military, informational, and educational infrastructure that ensures their activity;
-formation of people's self-government bodies and militia (defense and law and order) of the liberated territories, protecting the population from the terror of underground Nazi groups;
-installation of the Russian information space;
-seizure of educational materials and prohibition of educational programs of all levels that contain Nazi ideological attitudes;
-mass investigative actions to establish personal responsibility for war crimes, crimes against humanity, dissemination of Nazi ideology and support for the Nazi regime;
-The listing and publication of the names of those who collaborated with the Nazi regime, and their compulsory work to rebuild the destroyed infrastructure as punishment for their Nazi activities (among those to whom the death penalty or imprisonment will not be imposed);
-Adoption at the local level, under the curatorship of Russia, of the primary regulatory acts of denazification "from below," banning all types and forms of revival of Nazi ideology;
-Establishing memorials, commemorative signs, monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, commemorating the heroes of the fight against it;
-Inclusion of a set of anti-fascist and denazification norms in the constitutions of the new People's Republics;
-Creation of permanent denazification bodies for a period of 25 years.
Russia will have no allies in the denazification of Ukraine. Because this is a purely Russian affair. And also because not just the Bandera version of Nazi Ukraine, but, above all, Western totalitarianism, imposed programs of civilizational degradation and collapse, mechanisms of subordination to the superpower of the West and the USA will be subject to eradication.
To implement the plan of denazification of Ukraine, Russia itself will have to finally give up its pro-European and pro-Western illusions, to realize itself as the last instance of protection and preservation of the values of historical Europe (Old World), which it deserves and which the West ultimately abandoned, having lost in the struggle for itself. This struggle continued throughout the twentieth century and was expressed in the World War and the Russian Revolution, inextricably linked to each other.

Russia did all it could to save the West in the twentieth century. It implemented the main Western project, the alternative to capitalism that defeated the nation-states - the socialist, red project. It crushed German Nazism, the monstrous generation of the crisis of Western civilization. The last act of Russian altruism was Russia's outstretched hand of friendship, for which Russia received a monstrous blow in the 1990s.
Everything Russia did for the West, it did at its own expense, by making the greatest sacrifices. The West ultimately rejected all these sacrifices, devalued Russia's contribution to solving the Western crisis, and decided to take revenge on Russia for the help it unselfishly provided. From here on, Russia will go its own way, without worrying about the fate of the West, relying on another part of its legacy: leadership in the global process of decolonization.
As part of this process, Russia has high potential for partnership and alliance relations with countries that the West has oppressed for centuries and are not about to put on its yoke again. Without Russian sacrifice and struggle, these countries would not be liberated. The denazification of Ukraine is at the same time its decolonization, a fact to be understood by the people of Ukraine as they begin to free themselves from the stupefaction, temptation, and dependency of the so-called European choice.

https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html (prevod: Deepl)

Edited April 4, 2022 by erwin

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16 minutes ago, erwin said:

Svež (juče objavljen) podugačak programski tekst na sajtu ruske državne agencije RIA zalaže se za potpuni raskid sa Zapadom, negira postojanje ukrajinske nacije i poziva na rasparčavanje Ukrajine po metodu pravljenja narodnih republika uz zatiranje ukrajinskog identiteta, pri čemu bi i u krnjem "katoličkom" preostalom demilitarizovanom delu na njenom krajnjem zapadu bile instalirane ruske trupe koje bi garantovale "neutralnost".

 

https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html (prevod: Deepl)

 

Ako postoji ikakav silver lining, ispod teksta je više 👎 nego 👍

 

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