[USA] SJEDINJENE AMERIČKE DRŽAVE - unutrašnja politika i uticaj na svetska kretanja

[djole]

Mozda i najsramnije od svega ovih dana je kako mediji pokusavaju da nas ubede kako je Epstein bio zapravo ruski agent  I za ovo zaglupelo vreme pa je previse...

 

Ujedno i odgovor zasto dublje istrage i odgovornosti za sve one koji su ucestvovali u svemu ovome nece biti - tada bi morao da se otkrije i nalogodavac. Ruku na srce, vecini jeste jasno ko je u pitanju, ali nije lako reci da je car go i da "najveci saveznik" na bliskom istoku zapravo nije saveznik...

Edited Thursday at 01:07 PM by djole

[MeanMachine]

2 hours ago, djole said:

Mozda i najsramnije od svega ovih dana je kako mediji pokusavaju da nas ubede kako je Epstein bio zapravo ruski agent  I za ovo zaglupelo vreme pa je previse...

 

Ujedno i odgovor zasto dublje istrage i odgovornosti za sve one koji su ucestvovali u svemu ovome nece biti - tada bi morao da se otkrije i nalogodavac. Ruku na srce, vecini jeste jasno ko je u pitanju, ali nije lako reci da je car go i da "najveci saveznik" na bliskom istoku zapravo nije saveznik...

 

Što je nemoguće da je radio i za Ruse?

 

Double pa čak i triple agent nije retkost.

[Helena]

O kome vi, jbt, ne mogu da ispratim, o tranpu?

[nonick]

49 minutes ago, Helena said:

O kome vi, jbt, ne mogu da ispratim, o tranpu?

 

Epstin

[ras kass]

Ovaj ako je i osnovnu skolu zavrsio 

 

 

 

[nonick]

Evo I Tramp bojs isplivali na površinu:

 

Datum, Bozic 2016.

 

 

 

[Ludi za Poli]

 

Sve ovo jer je predsjednik poljskog parlamenta rekao da Trump ne zasluzuje Nobela za mir. Mentalno retardirana administracija, na prste jedne ruke se mogu izborjati ljudi koji nisu poremeceni.

 

U ostalim vijestima, senilni opet divlja

 

 

[Malkolm Brogdon]

Kolko god da je Tramp poremecen, nema sanse da bi okacio ovo da ga ne izjeda demencija.

 

Samo treba biti malo strpljiv.

[rodriguez]

1 hour ago, Malkolm Brogdon said:

Kolko god da je Tramp poremecen, nema sanse da bi okacio ovo da ga ne izjeda demencija.

 

Samo treba biti malo strpljiv.

 

 

Stvarno misliš da X i ostale mreže vodi on sam a ne neki službenik MAGA? Čisto sumnjam.

[Malkolm Brogdon]

2 hours ago, rodriguez said:

 

 

Stvarno misliš da X i ostale mreže vodi on sam a ne neki službenik MAGA? Čisto sumnjam.

Pa u najgorem slucaju mora i on da odobri to sto se postuje, mada bih pre rekao da je ovo licno on.

[rodriguez]

iskreno ne verujem, nema šanse, mislim njemu AI pravi video u kome prdi i sere u pelene

 

lik je bukvalno samo da potpisuje ono gde treba njegov potpis i da MAGA lupetara da loži raju

 

sve što je u domenu kampanje radi neko drugi

[Helena]

Pobrisan je video, kažu "djelatnik je greškom objavio" premda je Karolina dear dala puno objašnhe zašto je video takav 

 

No, sve ima svoje, pa je tako izašlo ovo:

 

 

 

Volela bih mišljenje @Nek grmi jako da čujem u vezi ovoga.

[nonick]

Ali Bajdenov Autopen.

 

 

 

 

[JPM]

[rodriguez]

ne znam da li je neko pisao tek ako gledate scanove epstinove korešpodencije mailom sa raznog klijentelom, videćete da se uvek kao pošiljalac mejlova pojavljuje neki boris nikolić.

 

na stranu što kao i većina nas ovde poznajem barem jednog takvog u svom životu, isprovociralo me da uradim istraživanje ko je ovaj lik, i evo šta sam našao:

 

https://www.tportal.hr/showtime/clanak/od-salate-do-harvarda-i-gatesa-tko-je-boris-nikolic-i-zasto-se-spominje-u-epsteinovim-dokumentima

[Nek grmi jako]

11 hours ago, Helena said:

Volela bih mišljenje @Nek grmi jako da čujem u vezi ovoga.

 

Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi...

 

Ono što je dozvoljeno Jupiteru, svakako nije dozvoljeno i volu, pa bi u tom kontekstu svako drugi bio deplatformisan sa nekih mreža za tu vrstu skaradnosti, ali predsednik SAD je, što se kaže, tako u mogućnosti. On ne samo da neće biti deplatformisan, kao što je bivao obrisan sa veba u prošlosti, nego ima čak i svoju mrežu pa može da na nju kači šta mu god padne na pamet, čak i kad je sadržaj civilizacijski označen kao bljak.

 

Sa druge strane, dok on i dalje piskara i objavljuje sve i svašta, na hiljade ljudi svakodnevno bivaju odstranjeni sa raznih platformi zbog nečega što se ne može ni uporediti sa predmetnom objavom, što nije ni rasistički ni anticivilizacijski već samo, eto, smeta nekome zbog nečega. A da i ne pominjemo stotine miliona, pa i milijarde onih koji ne mogu uopšte da se izraze slobodno u svojim državama, poput Kinorusije, Irana, Severne Koreje...

 

Što me navodi ka tome da determinišem nekoliko vrsta "sloboda", budući da i ta društva koja zabranjuju svojim građanima iskazivanje slobodnog stava, čine to navodno radi nekakve "slobode", dok se predsednik SAD oseća "slobodnim" da okači na mrežu i nekave bljuvotine, ali mi je kao svojevrsna internet formulacija "slobode" trenutno ipak najzanimljivija ona koju ću vam i opisati.

 

Duboka i oštra polarizacija društva nije dovela samo do pojave Trampa, već je dovela, naime, i do nastanka nove kategorije onih koji plivaju kroz minsko polje zabrane i deplatformmisanja, a reč je o digitalnim gerilcima koji danas nisu samo buntovnici, već oni koji su ovladali veštinom intelektualne mimikrije.

 

Jer kada je javni prostor premrežen nevidljivim nagaznim minama algoritma i moderatorstva, slobodna misao više ne može da paradira glavnom ulicom u svojoj punoj veličini. Ona mora da se kreće kroz sporedne uličice, da koristi šifre i da se maskira u nešto drugo.

 

U prošlosti su pisci koristili, recimo, basne da bi kritikovali apsolutiste. Danas, digitalni gerilac teži da koristi kontekstualni štit i da ne napada cenzuru direktno, jer to onda napadača označava kao problematičnog, već analizira sopstvenu psihologiju ili se naslanja, poput moje malenkosti sada, na figuru poput Trampa koja je suviše velika da bi bila ignorisana. 

 

I to je ta moderna umetnost digitalnog preživljavanja - kažeš sve, a ne aktiviraš nijedan alarm.

 

Algoritmi inače rade na bazi ključnih reči, a digitalni gerilac je onaj koji shvata da je rečnik postao minsko polje. I umesto da koristi reči koje su na crnoj listi, on koristi opise, metafore i filozofske analogije.

 

Time zapravo i obogaćuje jezik, jer ga sistem primorava da bude kreativniji a, paradoksalno, cenzura ga tera da piše bolje jer sirova istina teže prolazi kroz filter.

 

Najteža nuspojava ovog stanja je, međutim, to što čovek počinje da vrši preventivnu autopsiju sopstvenih misli. Pre nego što napiše prvu reč, digitalni gerilac je već skenira očima moderacije:

Da li je ovo preoštro?

Da li će se ovo razumeti kao poziv na nešto?

Koji sinonim da upotrebim da izbegnem ban?

 

To dovodi do toga da digitalni gerilac živi u stanju stalne budnosti. I kad već malopre pomenuh nekoliko vrsta "sloboda", evo je i još jedna, budući da to više nije sloboda govora u punom smislu, već - sloboda manevrisanja.

 

Jer, neko ti je ipak dao nekakvu platformu kao mogućnost da izneseš vlastiti stav, pa je onda potpuno besmisleno udarati po toj platformi, kao što ni Skot Dženings nikada ne udara po CNN-u jer ga je taj CNN napravio ultrapopularnim. Digitalni gerilac nije kamikaza, on ne želi da dezavuiše platformu i nestane u mraku anonimnosti, već želi da iskoristi njen domet dok istovremeno pleše po žici njenih pravila.

 

Ali onog trenutka kada si primoran da budeš gerilac, ti si već priznao da prostor više nije slobodan. Istovremeno, ti si onaj koji održava plamen... 

 

Digitalni gerilac je, zapravo, zapis u vremenu, kao dokaz u kulturi sećanja koju sam pominjao u nedavnoj prepisci sa uvaženim forumskim kolegom - da se misao ne može istrebiti. On će uvek naći pukotinu u kodu da izađe na videlo, podsećajući nas da, dok Jupiteri troše svoju slobodu na sve i svašta, istinska umetnost komunikacije najbolje preživljava u onima kojima ta sloboda nije bila unapred data.

 

Na kraju, možda je Jupiteru dozvoljeno sve, ali tek kada je volu zabranjeno da govori, on je primoran da nauči da - peva.

 

A tu pesmu nijedan algoritam ne može potpuno utišati.

  

Edited 23 hours ago by Nek grmi jako

[Helena]

8 hours ago, Nek grmi jako said:

 

Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi...

 

Ono što je dozvoljeno Jupiteru, svakako nije dozvoljeno i volu, pa bi u tom kontekstu svako drugi bio deplatformisan sa nekih mreža za tu vrstu skaradnosti, ali predsednik SAD je, što se kaže, tako u mogućnosti. On ne samo da neće biti deplatformisan, kao što je bivao obrisan sa veba u prošlosti, nego ima čak i svoju mrežu pa može da na nju kači šta mu god padne na pamet, čak i kad je sadržaj civilizacijski označen kao bljak.

 

Sa druge strane, dok on i dalje piskara i objavljuje sve i svašta, na hiljade ljudi svakodnevno bivaju odstranjeni sa raznih platformi zbog nečega što se ne može ni uporediti sa predmetnom objavom, što nije ni rasistički ni anticivilizacijski već samo, eto, smeta nekome zbog nečega. A da i ne pominjemo stotine miliona, pa i milijarde onih koji ne mogu uopšte da se izraze slobodno u svojim državama, poput Kinorusije, Irana, Severne Koreje...

 

Što me navodi ka tome da determinišem nekoliko vrsta "sloboda", budući da i ta društva koja zabranjuju svojim građanima iskazivanje slobodnog stava, čine to navodno radi nekakve "slobode", dok se predsednik SAD oseća "slobodnim" da okači na mrežu i nekave bljuvotine, ali mi je kao svojevrsna internet formulacija "slobode" trenutno ipak najzanimljivija ona koju ću vam i opisati.

 

Duboka i oštra polarizacija društva nije dovela samo do pojave Trampa, već je dovela, naime, i do nastanka nove kategorije onih koji plivaju kroz minsko polje zabrane i deplatformmisanja, a reč je o digitalnim gerilcima koji danas nisu samo buntovnici, već oni koji su ovladali veštinom intelektualne mimikrije.

 

Jer kada je javni prostor premrežen nevidljivim nagaznim minama algoritma i moderatorstva, slobodna misao više ne može da paradira glavnom ulicom u svojoj punoj veličini. Ona mora da se kreće kroz sporedne uličice, da koristi šifre i da se maskira u nešto drugo.

 

U prošlosti su pisci koristili, recimo, basne da bi kritikovali apsolutiste. Danas, digitalni gerilac teži da koristi kontekstualni štit i da ne napada cenzuru direktno, jer to onda napadača označava kao problematičnog, već analizira sopstvenu psihologiju ili se naslanja, poput moje malenkosti sada, na figuru poput Trampa koja je suviše velika da bi bila ignorisana. 

 

I to je ta moderna umetnost digitalnog preživljavanja - kažeš sve, a ne aktiviraš nijedan alarm.

 

Algoritmi inače rade na bazi ključnih reči, a digitalni gerilac je onaj koji shvata da je rečnik postao minsko polje. I umesto da koristi reči koje su na crnoj listi, on koristi opise, metafore i filozofske analogije.

 

Time zapravo i obogaćuje jezik, jer ga sistem primorava da bude kreativniji a, paradoksalno, cenzura ga tera da piše bolje jer sirova istina teže prolazi kroz filter.

 

Najteža nuspojava ovog stanja je, međutim, to što čovek počinje da vrši preventivnu autopsiju sopstvenih misli. Pre nego što napiše prvu reč, digitalni gerilac je već skenira očima moderacije:

Da li je ovo preoštro?

Da li će se ovo razumeti kao poziv na nešto?

Koji sinonim da upotrebim da izbegnem ban?

 

To dovodi do toga da digitalni gerilac živi u stanju stalne budnosti. I kad već malopre pomenuh nekoliko vrsta "sloboda", evo je i još jedna, budući da to više nije sloboda govora u punom smislu, već - sloboda manevrisanja.

 

Jer, neko ti je ipak dao nekakvu platformu kao mogućnost da izneseš vlastiti stav, pa je onda potpuno besmisleno udarati po toj platformi, kao što ni Skot Dženings nikada ne udara po CNN-u jer ga je taj CNN napravio ultrapopularnim. Digitalni gerilac nije kamikaza, on ne želi da dezavuiše platformu i nestane u mraku anonimnosti, već želi da iskoristi njen domet dok istovremeno pleše po žici njenih pravila.

 

Ali onog trenutka kada si primoran da budeš gerilac, ti si već priznao da prostor više nije slobodan. Istovremeno, ti si onaj koji održava plamen... 

 

Digitalni gerilac je, zapravo, zapis u vremenu, kao dokaz u kulturi sećanja koju sam pominjao u nedavnoj prepisci sa uvaženim forumskim kolegom - da se misao ne može istrebiti. On će uvek naći pukotinu u kodu da izađe na videlo, podsećajući nas da, dok Jupiteri troše svoju slobodu na sve i svašta, istinska umetnost komunikacije najbolje preživljava u onima kojima ta sloboda nije bila unapred data.

 

Na kraju, možda je Jupiteru dozvoljeno sve, ali tek kada je volu zabranjeno da govori, on je primoran da nauči da - peva.

 

A tu pesmu nijedan algoritam ne može potpuno utišati.

  

Da li TI misliš da je objava sa Obaminima anticivilizacijski i bljak?

Objava je povučena, uprkos kljastom objašnjenju Karoline dear I dobijeni he drugi, da je neko drugi to objavio?

Šta to znači, možda je pisalo Bajdenovo pero obešeno umesto slike Bajdena?

 

Zašto ga se sportisti stide na OI?

 

 

[ras kass]

Kakav pajser

 

 

 

 

 

[nonick]

2 hours ago, ras kass said:

Kakav pajser

 

 

 

 

 

 

Loser.

 

 

[Helena]

Ali jel normalan, šta će 14 aviona, za boga nikoga...Piše se I o 100 automobila i hrani koju je poneo.

 

Zar misli da je toliko bitan 

 

Plaćaju Amerikanci, plaćaju i ne pitaju.

[zoran59]

Vec par dan premisljam da li da ostavim komentar i link. Forumasi imaju cvrste stavove i moj post ih nece promeniti.

Ipak, hteo bih da postavim clanak od pre par dana. Iza "paywalla" je pa cu ga preneti u celini.

Znam, naci ce se neki sa "konspirativnim teorijama" itd. 

Za one koji ne znaju engleski, probajte sa GoogleTranslate ili nekom slicnom alatkom.

 

Newly unmasked evidence shows who put Trump in the White House

Opinion by Thom Hartmann

 

The British newspaper Daily Mail is out with a deeply researched investigative report, the result of a long collaboration between columnists Glen Owen and Dan Hodges, along with Mark Hookham (Assistant Editor Investigations), and Daisy Graham-Brown (Investigative Reporter).

It’s shocking in its detail and its implication that Vladimir Putin has basically owned Donald Trump for years, even before Trump ran for president in 2016.

They note of last week’s partial (about 50 percent) Epstein document release:

“The files include 1,056 documents naming Russian President Vladimir Putin and 9,629 referring to Moscow. [Jeffrey] Epstein even seems to have secured audiences with Putin after his 2008 conviction for procuring a child for prostitution.”

Essentially, they’re arguing that Epstein was running an operation on behalf of the KGB/Putin that lured wealthy and powerful men to Epstein’s New York and Palm Beach mansions and his island where they were surreptitiously filmed having sex with underage girls.

That material was then presumably passed along to Putin, who used it for leverage when he needed it:

“Intelligence sources believe Epstein was running ‘the world’s largest honeytrap operation’ on behalf of the KGB when he procured women for his network of associates.”

In return for giving Putin videos of wealthy, famous men in criminally compromising positions, Putin reportedly arranged for massive amounts of corrupt Russian money to be handed to Epstein to launder in the US.

Such money typically comes from illicit drug and oil deals, outright theft, sanctions evasions, and Russian organized crime oligarchs (including Putin and his associates) and is frequently laundered in this country using real estate. It’s the Mafia’s favorite, too.

America has the most lax and largely useless real estate transaction laws in the developed world, so a main way to launder such dirty cash is through cash-based real estate transactions (which are illegal in almost every other developed country).

And we know that Trump and his sons, when US and European banks refused to loan him any more money after his multiple bankruptcies, started taking in enough money to ensure the survival of his little real estate empire and it was all coming from Russia.

As Don Jr. told wealthy attendees to a 2008 real-estate conference:

“In terms of high-end product influx into the U.S., Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”

Similarly, Eric Trump told a friend, who later testified about it:

“‘Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.’ I said, ‘Really?’ And he said, ‘Oh, yeah. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.’”

This is one of the reasons Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), the Ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee (that oversees US banking) has been demanding access to Epstein’s finances and even introduced legislation (the Produce Epstein Treasury Records Act) to require that disclosure, which Republicans are currently blocking.

That alone is worth a call to your two US senators.

The documents released last week included a series of email conversations between Epstein and senior European officials close to Putin. This is way beyond Gary Hart and Monkey Business; this is the President of the United States being in the pocket of a foreign power and profiting from it. They pretty much openly suggest Epstein knew about ways to “handle” Trump:

“Other messages revealed Epstein claimed he could give the Kremlin valuable insight into Mr Trump ahead of a summit with Putin in Helsinki. …“In a June 2018 exchange, Epstein indicated that Vitaly Churkin, Russia’s ambassador to the UN, ‘understood Trump after our conversations.’ …

Earlier that month Epstein had also messaged Steve Bannon, a Trump ally, to tell him Mr Jagland was due to meet Putin and Lavrov and was then staying overnight with him at his mansion in Paris.” [Emphasis added]

Epstein, of course, died under deeply suspicious circumstances in jail while Trump was president (and now Epstein’s partner in crime, Ghislaine Maxwell, has been moved to a country club type of facility where she reportedly spends the days training puppies). As Republican consultant Harlan Hill noted on Twitter at the time of Epstein’s supposed suicide:

“Dead men tell no tales. Just as Jeffrey Epstein starts to name names, he decides to kill himself? Mkay. Totally believable.”

So, if Epstein had given Putin video of Trump having sex with underage girls, and Trump knows it and has for decades, how might that have changed Trump’s behavior?

・Might it provoke him to hang a photo of Putin in the White House?

・Or go along with Putin’s daily slaughter of Ukrainian children?

・Give Putin’s top diplomat information that burned a spy and an anti-Russia operation?

・Tell the world that he trusts Putin over the US intelligence services?

・Put a Putin-friendly conspiracy fan in charge of all US intelligence?

・Severely damage NATO, a perpetual thorn in Putin’s side?

・Shatter our alliances with the EU and other democratic nations in ways that may well last for generations?

・Refuse to make America’s dues payments to the UN, causing that body to have to shut down, perhaps permanently, this summer?

・Steal US intelligence secrets, including top-secret nuclear information, and put it in a place where Russian spies or their associates can easily access and photocopy it?

・Unleash ICE in a way that turns Americans against each other leading to the “Second US Civil War” that Russian media and Putin’s #2 man (Medvedev) have been gleefully predicting?

・Gut America’s soft power around the world by shutting down USAID, leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands mostly children, in the Third World while opening opportunities for Putin and Xi to pick them up as new alliances?

In 2019 The Washington Post revealed that, throughout his first presidency, Donald Trump was having secret phone conversations with Putin (over 20 have been identified so far, including one just days before the 2020 election).

The Moscow Project from the American Progress Action Fund documents more than 270 known contacts between Russia-linked operatives and members of the Trump campaign and transition team, as well as at least 38 known meetings, all just leading up to the 2016 election.

The manager of his 2016 campaign, Paul Manafort — who was previously paid tens of millions by Vladimir Putin’s people to install a pro-Putin puppet as Ukraine’s president in 2010 — has admitted that he was regularly feeding secret inside-campaign strategy and polling information to Russian intelligence via the oligarch who typically paid him on their behalf.

Throughout the campaign, he regularly let Russia know where Trump needed specific types of help, and how, and when.

With that help, an army of bots, shills, and trolls were unleashed on social media to successfully swing the young white male vote toward Trump.

Trump pardoned Manafort, which got him out of prison. He’s still fabulously rich from his work for Russia and his unpaid efforts to elect Trump.

As The New York Times noted in 2020:

“nvestigators found enough there to declare that Mr. Manafort created ‘a grave counterintelligence threat’ by sharing inside information about the presidential race with Mr. Kilimnik and the Russian and [pro-Russian] Ukrainian oligarchs whom he served.”

There is no known parallel to this behavior by any president in American history — one could argue it easily exceeds Benedict Arnold’s audacity — and criminally bringing stolen top secret documents to Mar-a-Lago is just the tip of the iceberg.

The Washington Post reported that Trump had a habit of carrying top-secret information that could severely damage our national security, leaving it in hotel rooms in hostile nations.

Was he bringing these documents with him to sell? Or just to show to leaders or oligarchs in those countries to impress them? Or because Putin told him to?

Trump doesn’t put all that effort into hauling things around unless he’s terrified.

“Boxes of documents even came with Trump on foreign travel,” The Post noted, “following him to hotel rooms around the world — including countries considered foreign adversaries of the United States.”

When Robert Mueller’s team tried to investigate Trump’s ties to Russia and his possibly sharing sensitive military information with Putin, they were stonewalled.

 

The Mueller Report identified ten specific instances of Trump trying to obstruct the investigation, including offering the bribe of a pardon to Paul Manafort, asking FBI Director Comey to “go easy” on General Flynn after Flynn’s dinner with Putin, and directing Attorney General Jeff Sessions to limit Mueller’s ability to investigate Trump’s connections to Russia.

As the Mueller Report noted:

“The President launched public attacks on the investigation and individuals involved in it who could possess evidence adverse to the President, while in private the President engaged in a series of targeted efforts to control the investigation.“For instance, the President attempted to remove the Attorney General; he sought to have Attorney General Sessions un-recuse himself and limit the investigation; he sought to prevent public disclosure of information about the June 9, 2016 meeting between Russians and campaign officials; and he used public forums to attack potential witnesses who might offer adverse information and to praise witnesses who declined to cooperate with the government.”

It adds, detailing Trump’s specific Obstruction of Justice crimes:

It adds, detailing Trump’s specific Obstruction of Justice crimes:

“These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”

There are, after all, credible assertions from American intelligence that when Trump was elected, members of Russian intelligence and Putin’s inner circle were literally partying in Moscow, celebrating a victory they believed they made happen.

And apparently Putin and his intelligence operatives had good reason to be popping the champagne in November, 2016. They were quickly paid off in a big way.

In his first months in office, Trump outed an Israeli spy to the Russian Ambassador in what he thought was going to be a “secret Oval Office meeting” (the Russians released the photo to the press), resulting in MOSAD having to “burn” that spy.

The undercover agent was apparently working in Syria that year against the Russians, who were embroiled in the midst of Assad’s Civil War and indiscriminately bombing Aleppo into rubble (creating a brown-skinned refugee crisis in Europe, which both Putin and Orbán exploited).

That, in turn, prompted the CIA to worry that a longtime American spy buried deep in the Kremlin was similarly vulnerable to Trump handing him over to Putin.

As CNN noted (when the story leaked two years later):

“The source was considered the highest level source for the US inside the Kremlin, high up in the national security infrastructure, according to the source familiar with the matter and a former senior intelligence official.“According to CNN’s sources, the spy had access to Putin and could even provide images of documents on the Russian leader’s desk.”

The CIA concluded that the risk Trump had burned or was about to burn our spy inside the Kremlin was so great that — at massive loss to US intelligence abilities that may even have otherwise helped forestall the invasion of Ukraine — they pulled our spy out of Russia in the first year of Trump’s presidency, 2017.

Similarly, when they met in Helsinki on July 16, 2018, Trump and Putin talked in private for several hours and Trump ordered his translators’ notes destroyed; there is also concern that much of their conversation was done out of the hearing of the US’s translator (Putin is fluent in English) who may have been relegated to a distant part of the rather large empty ballroom in which they met.

The Washington Post reported, after a leak six months later, that when Trump met privately for those two hours with Putin the CIA went into “panic mode.” A US intelligence official told the Post:

“There was this gasp’ at the CIA’s Langley, Virginia headquarters. You literally had people in panic mode watching it at Langley. On all floors. Just shock.”

Three weeks after Trump’s July 16, 2018 meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) made a solo trip to Moscow to personally hand-deliver a document or package of documents from Trump to Putin. Its contents are still unknown, although Paul told the press it was a “personal” letter of some sort.

Paul has also consistently taken Trump’s and Putin’s side with regard to the Ukraine war: he single-handedly blocked a $40 billion military aid package in the Senate. When the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago, he responded with a call for the repeal of the Espionage Act, which Jack Smith was prepared to charge Trump under. Paul further suggested the FBI may have “planted” Secret documents at Mar-a-Lago.

Ten days after Paul’s trip to Moscow, The New York Times reported that the CIA was worried because their sources inside Moscow had suddenly “gone silent”:

“The full reasons the sources have gone silent are not known,” the Times reported, but Trump having intentionally burned a man working for the FBI — whose job at that time was to find and reveal Russian agents involved in or close to the Trump campaign — may also have had something to do with it:

“[C]urrent and former officials said the exposure of sources inside the United States has also complicated matters,” noted the Times. “This year, the identity of an F.B.I. informant, Stefan Halper, became public after [Trump-loyal MAGA Republican] House lawmakers sought information on him and the White House allowed the information to be shared. Mr. Halper, an American academic based in Britain, had been sent to talk to Trump campaign advisers who were under F.B.I. scrutiny for their ties to Russia.”

Things were picking up the following year, in 2019, as Putin was planning his invasion of Ukraine while Trump was preparing for the 2020 election.

 

n July 2019, Trump had conversations with five foreign leaders during and just before a presidential visit that month to Mar-a-Lago; they included Putin and the Emir of Qatar.

In one of those conversations, according to a high-level US Intelligence source, Trump “made promises” to a “world leader” that were so alarming it provoked a national security scramble across multiple agencies.

As The Washington Post noted in an article titled “Trump’s communications with foreign leader are part of whistleblower complaint that spurred standoff between spy chief and Congress”:

“Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint [against Trump] was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of ‘urgent concern,’ a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees.”

On the last day of that month, July 31, Trump had another private conversation with Putin.

The White House spokespeople told Congress and the press that Trump said that he and Putin discussed “wildfires” and “trade between the nations.” No droids in this car…

But the following week, on August 2nd, The Daily Beast’s Betsy Swan reported that Trump had that week asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence for a list of all its employees (including all our “spies”) who had worked there more than 90 days, and the request had intelligence officials experiencing “disquiet.”

Perhaps just by coincidence, months after Trump left office with cases of classified documents, The New York Times ran a story with the headline Captured, Killed or Compromised: C.I.A. Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants:

“Top American counterintelligence officials warned every C.I.A. station and base around the world last week,” the Times’ story’s lede began, “about troubling numbers of informants recruited from other countries to spy for the United States being captured or killed, people familiar with the matter said.“The message, in an unusual top secret cable, said that the C.I.A.’s counterintelligence mission center had looked at dozens of cases in the last several years involving foreign informants who had been killed, arrested or most likely compromised. Although brief, the cable laid out the specific number of agents executed by rival intelligence agencies — a closely held detail that counterintelligence officials typically do not share in such cables.”

In the years since, Trump continues to maintain a close relationship with Putin; most recently he revealed that he’d asked “a favor” of the Russian dictator to “pause” his murderous, war-crime bombing of civilian infrastructure in Ukraine “for one week.” Putin, being in the power position, chose to laugh at Trump and continued his assault on the nation, although he did throw Trump a bone by pausing his hits on Kiev for a few days.

These aren’t just “a few bad judgment calls” or a president with “strange foreign policy instincts.” These stories (and literally hundreds of others) point to a man who’s behaved, consistently and predictably, like someone under leverage, someone whose personal fear of exposure of some sort of major crime — like the ones we know Epstein was holding over other billionaires — outweighs his loyalty to the nation he swore to serve.

If Americans don’t demand real investigations, genuine accountability, and impeachment and jail time for what sure looks like the greatest counterintelligence failure in our history, we may lose what’s left of our democracy before the 2028 elections can fix things.

If Democrats can take control of either branch of Congress and if Schumer and Jeffries get spine transplants and begin a serious investigation into Trump’s destruction of the United States and our historic role in the world, they’ll have enough to keep them busy for years.

This is not about politics or personality. It’s about whether a country can survive being led by someone who looks captured and compromised by a foreign power. If even half of this is true, then staying quiet is the same as going along with it.

We must demand real investigations and real consequences, or accept that the presidency can be bought, blackmailed, and used against the country itself.

Let your elected officials know your thoughts on this, and don’t forget to demand your elected Republicans step up and defend America, too. You can reach your member of Congress and both your Senators via the congressional switchboard at: (202) 224-3121.

[Nek grmi jako]

16 hours ago, Helena said:

Da li TI misliš da je objava sa Obaminima anticivilizacijski i bljak?

Objava je povučena, uprkos kljastom objašnjenju Karoline dear I dobijeni he drugi, da je neko drugi to objavio?

Šta to znači, možda je pisalo Bajdenovo pero obešeno umesto slike Bajdena?

 

Zašto ga se sportisti stide na OI?

 

 

 

Vaše pitanje je školski primer onoga o čemu pišem, dakle pokušaj da se kompleksna analiza svede na navijačku tribinu i na uputstvo za upotrebu tuđe svesti.

 

U samom tekstu sam tu objavu nazvao skaradnošću i bljuvotinom, poput svih onih bljuvotina koje je taj čovek rekao i napisao, i opet postao predsednik SAD ne jednom, već - dva puta, što nas dovodi u poziciju da se zapitamo kakvi su u očima glasača oni drugi kad takav čovek ne jednom, nego u dva navrata pobeđuje na izborima.

 

Ali moj tekst nije moralna pridika o Trampovom ukusu, već o opasnom presedanu gde jedan čovek može da objavi šta god poželi jer poseduje moćan megafon, dok milioni drugih bivaju ućutkani zbog neuporedivo benignijih stvari. Mene ne brine Trampov nedostatak manira jer je on one and done, već sistem koji je od slobode govora napravio privilegiju moćnih, koji će postojati i dugo nakon što Trampa prekriju snegovi i šaš...

 

A da li znate ko je nekada branio glas slabijih i nemoćnijih. Upravo - levica, koja je nekada vodila klasnu borbu, brinula za radnička prava, zalagala se za redistribuciju bogatstva, sindikate i ekonomsku jednakost po skandinavskom modelu socijaldemokratije koji je bio vrhunac toga.

 

Danas, međutim, svedočimo paradoksu, jer dok su nekadašnja levica i progresivne misli plovile ka lukama klasne jednakosti i prava radnika, taj brod je polakice i laganezi promenio kurs odbacujući kao nepotreban teret i klasnu jednakost i pravo radnika, a ukrcavajući na palubu i u potpalublje identitetsku politiku i kulturne ratove.

 

Putnici na brodu, logično, fizički ne mogu da osete promenu kursa, a nema ni zvezda na nebu poput slobode govora u tom ekočemberu, koje bi im bile orijentir kuda plovi njihov brod, pa ti putnici uljuljkani verom u staru rutu, nisu ni primetili da više ne plove ka skandinavskoj socijaldemokratiji, već su opasno blizu Sankt Peterburga iz doba Trockog... 

 

Gde se svako odstupanje od novouspostavljenog identitetskog koda kažnjava - izbacivanjem sa palube.

 

Zato i vi sada od moje malenkosti tražite potvrdu svog ideološkog koda, dok moja malenkost ne piše o tome ko je dobar a ko loš u tom ringu, jer o tome već svi imaju stav i ja niti želim a niti mogu da ga promenim. Ja pišem o buci koju prave oni koji bi da uređuju tuđe misli...

 

Možemo li o tome da razgovaramo, ili je jedino dozvoljeno birati boju dresa?

 

Ja vas potpuno razumem, jer u tom novom svetu, centristički pogled se ne vidi kao balans, već kao ideološka pretnja. Razlog je banalan, baš kao i naša svakodnevica. jer mi živimo u digitalnoj krčmi gde o Žikinoj dinastiji baš svaki gost ima čvrst stav i pravo da galami, poput tih sportista koje pominjete, dok o Kantovoj Kritici čistog uma polemišu samo oni retki, tihi i često prokazani.

 

Problem nastaje kada ti gosti iz krčme, naoružani algoritmima, poveruju da je njihovo mišljenje o Žikinoj dinastiji relevantnije od Kantovog kategoričkog imperativa.

 

Tako se stvara prostor u kojem je Jupiteru dozvoljeno da bude banalan, dok se nekima zamera što uopšte pokušavaju da budu temeljni u vlastitom stavu.

 

Jer, u svetu koji slavi sirovu buku, intelektualna slojevitost postaje čin agresije.

Edited 1 minute ago by Nek grmi jako