Horium Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Znaci Goksi procenio da su Bruklinovci veci kontenderi nego Sansi. Nije mi sasvim jasna odluka ali mi ni ne pada na pamet drugi razlog sto nije izabrao Dalas, Majami ili Finiks umesto njih. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki28 Teoljub Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Horium said: Znaci Goksi procenio da su Bruklinovci veci kontenderi nego Sansi. Nije mi sasvim jasna odluka ali mi ni ne pada na pamet drugi razlog sto nije izabrao Dalas, Majami ili Finiks umesto njih. Sa zdravim KD su itekako ozb kontenderi, za mene broj 1. J... ih sto Kyrie igra samo gostovanja ali sa Goranom, Millsom, Benom, Sethom, Harrisom, LMA, Drummond uz zdravog KD to je itekako brutalan sastav. Okej, ima nepoznanica oko Bena ali vjerujem da ce sa glavom doci u vinklo do plejofa a sa njim ce itekako biti bolji u odbrani. Tesko ce ih ko dobiti u best of 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTwister Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Vise minuta bi sigurno bilo za njega u Netse nego u PHX, iako je CP3 fasovao ovu povredu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodo Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, gggggggg said: mislio sam da ce dragic u phoenix, ali zbog sarvera mozda nije bilo moguce. ja sam mišljenja da je Goran sam sebi vrata zatvorio u Phoenixu onog trenutka kada je zatražio trejd , odnosno točnije kad je izjavio da nema više povjerenja u klub , štagod pod tim podrazumijevao. nisam baš upoznat sa njegovim ličnim odnosom sa Sarverom ali čitajući forum uglavnom su bili protiv njegova povratka. doduše to je bilo još u trenutku prije trejd dedlajna. Van toga njegov neki logičan izbor bi trebao bit Phoenix. očito su postojale prepreke za realizaciju istog. Edited February 21, 2022 by bodo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoudemire Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 dobro smo popunjeni na bekovskim pozicijama, a nisam siguran da je gogi u ovim godinama mnogo bolji od paynea i holidaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodo Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, stoudemire said: dobro smo popunjeni na bekovskim pozicijama, a nisam siguran da je gogi u ovim godinama mnogo bolji od paynea i holidaya. slažem se. Holiday mi se kao akvizicija sviđa. za Payna se nadam da može dobaciti do prošlosezonskih igara a pak Payton iako je nešto i proigrao u zadnje vrijeme mi se nikako ne dopada kao igrač. eto prilike da vidimo na šta će Sunsi ličiti bez prve violine, bolje rečeno bez dirigenta. Edited February 21, 2022 by bodo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zvezdinho Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 Meni je vece iznenadjenje sto nije otisao u Dalas zbog Luke i Kokoskova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMMER Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 22 hours ago, gggggggg said: ne znaju naivcine da se veceras pali masina... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethrow Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 jEr GOTOV OVAJ mEDRANO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki28 Teoljub Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 1 hour ago, HAMMER said: ne znaju naivcine da se veceras pali masina... Ne pali se vcrs, tek u subotu. Polako, kud zuris? Jel stvarno mislis da je Wall resenje? Da se da jos jedan pik 1 runde ( mada vas boki tuki za to) i da se dovede jebeni John Wall? 1 hour ago, Zvezdinho said: Meni je vece iznenadjenje sto nije otisao u Dalas zbog Luke i Kokoskova. Zasto? To su samo price, da bi volio ali ultimativni cilj za sve je da probaju da dodju do titule a realno jel mislis da bi sa Dalasom to mogao u narednih godinu dve? Kontam da ide sad all in da proba pa ce onda na ljeto gledati sta i kako. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggggggg Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 Quote The Los Angeles Lakers might have to trade for LeBron James this summer. James has clearly been offended by Lakers' management twice over the past two weeks. First when it elected not to make a deal before the Feb. 10 trade deadline after he had both publicly and privately prodded for something. More accurately, he expected it. And second when Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka stepped over the line when he announced James was on board with the status quo; a source told ESPN there was no prior sign-off from James. He has been hammering the team's knuckles with rounds of trademark passive-aggressive maneuvers since, both on social media and in news conferences. Then he went aggressive-aggressive during All-Star Weekend in an interview with The Athletic in which he dropped lighter fluid on a previously bubbling concept that he might make one last return to the Cleveland Cavaliers before he retires. Regardless of how James, 37, might try to shape those quotes going forward -- he was careful to qualify them to a degree -- he is a master media operator who, while standing in Cleveland, was speaking to a reporter he knows well. He knew exactly what he was doing. Same as he was doing last week, in the wake of the trade deadline inaction, when he spoke about how his recent knee injury would likely bother him the rest of the season. The knee surely is an issue, but James was also laying the groundwork to give himself options depending on how the rest of the season plays out for the Lakers (27-31). What James is doing is likely aimed at one primary goal: Force the Lakers into major action this summer. He tried to do it nicely and now he's doing it harshly. This isn't about leaving Los Angeles -- that is not something James wants. It's not even about playing with his son. Bronny, 17, is a minimum of two years away from the NBA, if he's even able and ready at that age. There's a lot of basketball between now and then and, as James has shown this season, there's still gas in the tank to deploy before worrying about that dream. James has never cared about draft picks, present or future. He's had occasional interest in developing young teammates, adopting a few over the years. But he's never had a problem saying goodbye if shipping them out moves him closer to a gold trophy faster. Any young guy on his roster who thinks differently hasn't done his research. He plays for now and always wants to win the championship in the season he's in. You don't make eight straight NBA Finals, 10 of them over a 13-year span while switching teams three times, by focusing only on the long term. James demands his teams to operate this way, he brings it every day and expects everyone else to as well. That absolutely includes management. Now is when it would be prudent to recall the winter of 2018, when James had grown frustrated with a flawed Cavs team. He'd declined to extend his contract the summer before when a deal for Paul George was on the table. Cleveland team owner Dan Gilbert responded by acquiescing to Kyrie Irving's trade demand, working out a deal centered around a draft pick and not players as James had made it clear he wanted. There was plausible deniability, but in mid-January James started playing under a form of protest. Everyone on the team knew it and it was evident if you watched closely enough, James' foot was off the gas. Gilbert and Cavs general manager Koby Altman were at a crossroads and knew there was a strong chance James was leaving in free agency but they still had the rest of the season. Eventually, Gilbert and Altman realized they didn't have a choice. James was an irreplaceable resource; once he was gone there would maybe never be another. So the day before the trade deadline, they got several trades in place. That night, Altman met with James before the game and told him the following day they were trading for four new players and had decided to use their first-round pick from that year to do so. It was the seventh first-rounder they were trading in the four seasons James had been back. That night, an energetic James ended his quasi-strike with a signature 37-point, 10-rebound, 15-assist masterpiece that included a buzzer-beater to win a game against the Minnesota Timberwolves. He topped it off with a move for his personal passive-aggressive Hall of Fame, turning his back on Isaiah Thomas when he charged the court to celebrate. James never wanted the Cavs to trade for Thomas and already knew he was being shipped out the next day. The Cavs got four role players at the deadline but that wasn't the real prize. That night, members of the front office looked at each other and realized: what they'd really traded for was James. He followed it up with one of the greatest postseason runs of his pro career, making two buzzer-beaters and winning two Game 7s -- including one on the road -- to make his eighth straight Finals. The Lakers were involved in all that, they got in on those Cavs trades and used them to get the salary-cap space to sign James the following summer and got their first-round pick. Now they might need to remember it. After the Lakers won the title in 2020, James extended his contract two seasons through 2023. Because of the rules around that extension, James wasn't able to get a player option in the deal. It is the first time he hasn't had an option to end a contract early since he was on his rookie deal almost two decades ago. It wasn't even an issue when the deal was announced, but that is a fortunate circumstance now. The Lakers will get this summer without having to worry about James hitting free agency and watching them work before deciding on re-signing. But it isn't free. Aug. 4 is the first day James can extend his contract again. The Lakers will surely offer one. And James will have some demands before he accepts. The Lakers have a flawed roster -- yes, James played a large role in putting it together but that doesn't mean he isn't ready to divorce it -- but they have options. If Russell Westbrook picks up his own player option, he will be on a $47 million expiring contract. After only being able to trade their 2027 first-round pick -- which the Lakers decided not to trade at the deadline, in part because they still owe two future firsts from the Anthony Davis deal -- rules will then allow the Lakers to trade their 2029 pick. Being aggressive and further mortgaging the future will be painful and risky. But James is making his feelings clear: He doesn't care. Do it and they get more than new players, they will keep James deeply invested. That's something no team has been able to say no to. windy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaga Posted February 21, 2022 Share Posted February 21, 2022 lepo je videti da u la neko ima kicmu trazio si rasela,sad uzivaj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horium Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Miki28 said: Sa zdravim KD su itekako ozb kontenderi, za mene broj 1. J... ih sto Kyrie igra samo gostovanja ali sa Goranom, Millsom, Benom, Sethom, Harrisom, LMA, Drummond uz zdravog KD to je itekako brutalan sastav. Okej, ima nepoznanica oko Bena ali vjerujem da ce sa glavom doci u vinklo do plejofa a sa njim ce itekako biti bolji u odbrani. Tesko ce ih ko dobiti u best of 7 KD je monstrum, nije sporno, i supporting cast nije slab, ali izmedju toga da Bruklin maltene sigurno igra u plejinu, vec spomenut problem sa Irvingom, da nisu uigrana skupina i da je Simons jedan ogroman znak pitanja (fizicki, mentalno i spiritualno) meni oni ne predstavljaju prvog favorita, pa cak ni na istoku (fear the deer). Ili makar nisu pre ovoga. Naravno, ako je ista ostalo od Dragona iz pretposle sezone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ćušpajz Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Miki28 said: Ne pali se vcrs, tek u subotu. Polako, kud zuris? Jel stvarno mislis da je Wall resenje? Da se da jos jedan pik 1 runde ( mada vas boki tuki za to) i da se dovede jebeni John Wall? ludilo. jedno je trejdovati wbrooka, potpuno drugo trejdovati ga za john walla. ne postoji igrač koji je sličniji russu po manama, plus što godinama nije ni igrao. ako ti je to izbor, naravno da se držiš russa, on će makar na želju i drive da uradi nešto, bilo dobro ili loše. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Урош19 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Зид је лошија верзија Вестбрука. Још није играо типа 2 године. Да су направили тај трејд још би горе прошли само 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Veoma se malo provuklo kroz medije ovaj potpis Dragića. Nije sada neki opak igrač, ali je vrloo koristan, pogotovo za G ligaški roster Netsa. On bi opet bio treći najbolji igrač Lejkersa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethrow Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Bek od 35 godina visok 190cm kojem se dobar deo igre bazira na ulazima pod koš i koji u poslednje 3 sezone ima oko 100 i nešto odigranih utakmica... Volim Dragića, ali da se nešto slavi taj ugovor kao Otkrovenje, ne znam baš. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Is Me Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Dragić mi je nekako panic potpis za Netse, kod njih je baš rasulo, KD povređen, Kyrie u specifičnom statusu da ne igra doma, Simmons ko zna kad će, ovi veterani tipa LMA i Griffin malo malo ne igraju... Šta će tu jedan veteranski bek koji nikad nije bio neka defanzivna sila da promeni? Potrebna je samo još jedna dodatna lopta za prangijanje. Imao bi mi Dragić mnogo više smisla u većini drugih ekipa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenenvy Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Dragic je sada samo bio dobar fit za Suns-e zbog povrede CP3-a. Nije da ce bez njega biti katastrofa, ali opet je bolje gledati Dragica od faking Cameron Payne-a narednih mesec i po dana. Ali opet na kraju, kad bude bilo ozbiljno, lik ce biti non factor gde god igrao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTerror Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, Chaos Is Me said: Dragić mi je nekako panic potpis za Netse, kod njih je baš rasulo, KD povređen, Kyrie u specifičnom statusu da ne igra doma, Simmons ko zna kad će, ovi veterani tipa LMA i Griffin malo malo ne igraju... Šta će tu jedan veteranski bek koji nikad nije bio neka defanzivna sila da promeni? Potrebna je samo još jedna dodatna lopta za prangijanje. Imao bi mi Dragić mnogo više smisla u većini drugih ekipa. Kako panic potpis kad trenutno nemaju nikoga ko zna da vodi loptu? Cak i kada se vrate Simmons i Irving imace prostora koliko zeli sa klupe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Is Me Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Znaju da vode loptu Mills i Curry, Irving je tu 50%, čak i onaj Thomas sa klupe može da pomogne. Nakon što se vrati i Simmons (a i KD naravno) baš će biti gužva oko ballhandlinga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Wins Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Урош19 said: Зид је лошија верзија Вестбрука. Још није играо типа 2 године. Да су направили тај трејд још би горе прошли само Slazem se, prajm Wall nije bolji od prajm Vestbruka,a tel sad, nakon neigranja. Mada opet, mozda bi Wallov ego bio bolji fit za tim nego danasnji Vestbruk, koji je u onoj fazi karijere kao onomad Melo kad je bio u fazonu: Ko bre da ne bude starter, alo?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Is Me Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Wall je Westbrook 0.5 verzija. Možda je za nijansu bolji šuter ali to je minimalno. Ego mu je ogroman, mislim da je u glavi i dalje superstar, bar tako se ponašao u poslednjem mandatu u Hjustonu (uz gomiletinu neefikasnih pull upova iz driblinga) tako da ne verujem da bi Lejkersi išta pozitivno dobili tom rokadom. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ćušpajz Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chaos Is Me said: Znaju da vode loptu Mills i Curry, Irving je tu 50%, čak i onaj Thomas sa klupe može da pomogne. Nakon što se vrati i Simmons (a i KD naravno) baš će biti gužva oko ballhandlinga. jedino što mogu da smislim je da će simmons biti isključivo point-forward, možda i point-centar u nekim minijaturama; odnosno, da će guard-pozicije uvek biti okupirane šuterima u nekoj od kombinacija a u zavisnosti od toga koga imaju na raspolaganju (irving - seth curry - mills - dragic ..plus onaj bruce wayne bobby brown, ako uopšte računaju na njegov difens) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfTerror Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Mills i Curry sy vise spot up igraci i sekindarni kreatori neko treba i loptu da prenese. Ako je Dragic u nekoj pristonoj formi ne bih se zacudio da zatvara utakmice i pored dostupnih Simmonsa i Irvinga... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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