Angelia

Aha znaci nema dokaza da je bilo ko tvrdio da su "crnci marxisti". Samo da znas odgovor tipa "znam ja da ima samo necu da ti kazem" stvarno ne funkcionise, kad izneses ovako suludu tvrdnju. Pokrio denis ostatak.

Sorry, moja greska New York military Academy - tamo se ne uci gradjevina Znaci da ignorisem ono sto istoricari pricaju, ok. Mogu ti reci da ni ja to nisam znala dok pandemija nije pocela i cela prica pocela da se vrti svuda. Koliko se secam ima istrazivanje iz 2013 na tu temu.

Znacaj te pandemije nije u potpunosti odlucen (zbog cenzure) i to sto je on rekao nije daleko od spekulacija istoricara. Pojednostavljeno je samo sto ovde on nije ulazio u sve razloge nego naglasio uticaj pandemije (ili si ocekivao u obracanju o pandemiji da odrzi predavanje?). Racunam da on zna mnogo vise o WW1, covek je isao na West Point. u svakom slucaju nije tema, to sto je napravio lapsus sa WW2, nije razlog da se od ove izjave pravi drama.

Daj se barem malo informisite o uticaju Spanskog gripa na WW1: No one can doubt that the influenza pandemic shortened The War. After four years of fighting Germany was running out of men, food, and money and was becoming politically unstable. American troops were flooding France; in all there were about two million fighting men in the American Expeditionary Force - the AEF in parlance of the time - under the command of General John “Black Jack” Pershing. The first large engagement of American troops was at Belleau Wood in June 1918 and it was there that the Germans, in awe of their fighting prowess, christened the United States Marines teufel hunden, devil dogs. It was by the end of that summer, with the terrible toll of morbidity and mortality exacted by the influenza virus, that the Allied forces attacked the dispirited German army in the Meuse-Argonne offensive and in the period of six weeks leading to the 11 November 1918 Armistice, overran the Germans, forcing them to sue for peace. http://www.kumc.edu/wwi/medicine/influenza.html The flu affected the course of the war. It added to the burden of the armies in the field by taking so many men out of commission, suddenly and for weeks. German generals thought that the flu had stymied their effort for a decisive push to victory in the summer of 1918. https://onlineexhibits.library.yale.edu/s/wwi-medicine/page/the-influenza-epidemic When the flu broke out in 1918, wartime press censorship was more entrenched in European countries because Europe had been fighting since 1914, while the United States had only entered the war in 1917. It’s hard to know the scope of this censorship, since the most effective way to cover something up is to not leave publicly-accessible records of its suppression. https://www.history.com/news/1918-pandemic-spanish-flu-censorship Mislim jasno mi je da se u SR uci kako su hrabri Srbi porazili Austro-Ugarsku.... ali informacije su ipak samo par googlovanja daleko. Znaci "glupi" Yale to ima u programu. Stvarno nije smesno, osim ako necete da se smejete Trampovom lapsusu gde je rekao WW2 umesto WW1.

opet podmeces nesto sto niko nije na ovom forumu rekao. Ili prosto ne razumes sta se prica.

Baby cesto kopira mas medije i twitter kao relevatno misljenje, bez da kriticki pogleda na kretanja. Da se pandemija nije isprecila niko (mislim od znanih) ne bi imao sansu da izazove Trampa, osim da se pojavio neko nov, ali to je trebalo pre dve godine. Biden je gurnut kao neko ko ionako vise nema politicku karijeru, pa ako izgubi nikakva steta. Njima se samo posrecilo sa pandemijom, koju muzu dobrano sa neredima i gasenjem ekonomije. Naravno da nezavisnima nije jako bitno ko je predsednik, bas zato je i lakse glasati za status quo. Ako se bude bilo regularno izaslo na izbore, nezavisni nece stvarno glasati protiv Trampa. Jedino sto Bidenu daje sansu je pandemija, i potencijalno muljanje oko glasanja preko poste. Ali rezultate cemo videti po broju glasova, i po onome sto ce se desiti u lokalu.

Kamala it is! Sad cemo da vidimo reakciju.

Malo suvise slucajnosti za moj ukus, iako bold uopste ne uzimam u obzir. Medjutim cak i da jeste, cisto sumnjam da ce to biti receno javnosti u narednih 100 godina, posto ima politicke posledice. Tako da ce verovatno ostati u domenu teorije zavere.

Negde sam procitala tvrdnju nekog strucnjaka, iskreno ne secam se gde jer je bilo pre barem mesec dana, da je jedan od argumenata da je neko petljao sa virusom, upravo brzina kojom se virus rasirio medju ljudima, a da to nije uobicajeno za one koji dolaze iz zivotinjskog sveta. U principu oni nama mogu da daju dokaze i za jedno i za drugo, mi smo laici pa ni dokaze necemo razumeti. Osim ako ne dodju do nekog strucnog i politickog koncenzusa (sto opet ima svoje manjkavosti) i kazu "presuda je to i to". Zato zadrzavam pravo da o tome odlucim kasnije. Cinjenica jeste da je pojava virusa u Wuhanu, da je koincidencija da se tu bas nalazi ta labaratorija, i da su Kinezi krili podatke u virusu...to je dovoljno da se posumnja, da je virus "pobegao", medjutim dokaza za sada nema. Tako da - to ostaje samo spekulacija.

Ta prica je od juce, imas link na prethodnoj strani. Nemoj mene napadati sto si omasio taj post. A taj neduzni je optuzen za pokusaj ubistva. A reakcija je bila na pricu tj laz da je policija upucala dete, a ne nekog sa dugackim kriminalnim backgroundom Cak i u ovom postu imas link na NBC. Uopste je nebitno kako je pocelo - poenta je da su organizovano dosli kolonom automobila, porazbijali izloge i opljackali prodavnice, i da to to opravdavaju "reparacijom". Znaci kad god se osetis ostecenim a ti kamen u izlog, jbga ionako imaju osiguranje (koje uglavnom ne pokriva ovakve slucajeve). Necu na forumu postovati citave clanke.

Neki put stvarno mi se smuci citajuci vesti: A Black Lives Matter Chicago organizer said Monday that the mobs who vandalized and looted downtown businesses the night before did nothing wrong, calling it “reparations” for Black suffering. “That is reparations,” Ariel Atkins, an organizer, told NBC Chicago. “Anything they wanted to take, they can take it because these businesses have insurance.”

Znaci generalno opet ce biti glasanje "protiv" a ne "za": The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it’s likely Biden’s running mate will be president before the end of Biden’s four-year term if he wins this fall, with 39% who say it’s Very Likely. Thirty-five percent (35%) consider it unlikely that Biden’s vice presidential choice will be president before his four-year term ends, but that includes only 14% who think it’s Not At All Likely. (To see survey question wording, click here.) Even 49% of Democrats think it’s likely Biden’s vice president will become president in the next four years, although that compares to 73% of Republicans and 57% of voters not affiliated with either major party.

nisi procitala sta sam napisala, da ocigledno je da je lapsus kad je rekao WW2, umesto WW1. A godinu je veoma lako objasniti, za Amere oni su usli u rat 1917. U svakom slucaju meni smejanje lapsusu nekako spada u klinacko ponasanje.

To nije smesno, iako je omasio godinu - radi se o 1918toj, i prvom svetskom ratu. Obican lapsus linguae - ocigledno je na sta je mislio.

Vidi da ti kazem nesto, ima ona dobra izreka “Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.”. Tu pricu o tome kako su videli dokaz da je "ljudska ruka" imala nesto sa manipulacijom virusom, tvrdili su i neki koji nisu "izlapele antivaxerske drtine" ili klinci sa youtuba. Posto se o virusu ne zna dovoljno, bolje da to ostavimo strucnom sudu i sudu istorije, posto iskreno receno cak i da jeste virus iz labaratorije ili slicno, cisto sumnjam da bi nam zvanicnici to potvrdili. Posto ja generalno ne volim da idem sa necim gde u nesto mora da se veruje - u nedostatku dokaza za bilo koju stranu, barem verifikovane od strane strucnjaka, ostajem neopredeljena. Ostalima ne zameram da veruju jednima ili drugima, licna odluka.

Procedura: Trump evacuated from briefing room due to shooting outside White House premises President Donald Trump was abruptly evacuated from a press briefing on coronavirus on Monday evening just minutes after he began speaking following a shooting outside of the White House. “There was an actual shooting, and somebody has been taken to the hospital. I don’t know the condition of the person,” Trump said after he returned to the White House briefing room shortly afterward. “It was the suspect that was shot,” Trump added. He said that no one else was injured, but that it was his understanding that the suspect had been armed. The shooting took place near the White House fence, Trump said. Law enforcement officials told NBC News that one man was shot in the chest and taken to George Washington University Hospital while unconscious. The briefing room was placed on a lock down immediately after the president exited, according to a pool report.

Bilo je vise njih koji su tvrdili da se na virusu vidi manipulacija, medjutim nista od toga nije dokazano, i ima dosta naucnika koji su tvrdili da nije tacno. Obe strane imaju argumente koji zvuce dobro laicima - pa sad opet, kome verovati? Dok ne bude koncenzusa necemo znati.

Inace, odgovor u NYC: Curtis Sliwa and the Guardian Angels safety patrol toured Manhattan’s Upper West Side on Sunday amid growing concerns about hundreds of homeless recently moved into neighborhood hotels by the city. Sliwa — the group’s founder, a 2021 mayoral contender and an Upper West Sider — took to the streets with about eight members of the red-bereted Angels, meeting with locals and observing conditions. While many of the new arrivals are just down-on-their-luck New Yorkers, the group also includes recovering addicts and convicted pedophiles. Since the city shuttled hundreds of vagrants from packed congregate shelters into three neighborhood hotels in a bid to stem the coronavirus, area residents have reported scenes of brazen drug-dealing and use, broad-daylight masturbation and public urination. Oce neko da nagadja gde politicki naginje Mr. Sliwa?

Pa i onaj u Portlandu je pojeo vec sve sto je pricao, sad svako vece proglasavaju riots, i vec je rekao da je paljenje zgrade bio pokusaj ubistva. Ostala je jos ona idiot u Seattle gradonacelnica, koju i sefica policije moli da zaustavi divljanje. A u NYC je katastrofa, samo sto De Blasia zabole, on nema re-izbor. Naravno da su fejk ankete, juce probudili mog klinca pozivom iz DNC, kad su ga pitali da li ce da glasa za Bidena on im rekao Aha, samo da sidju sa telefona, i da ga puste da spava

Wow gradonacelnica Chicaga otkrila zakone, trebalo joj je sam 2.5 mesecs....brilijatno Mayor Lori Lightfoot warned the looters in Sunday's chaos that they would be found and that a special task force was being put together to sift through the city's expansive surveillance camera footage. 'Let's be clear. We are coming for you. We are already at work finding you. 'I don't care - I do not care - whatever justification was given for this. 'There is no justification for criminal behavior ever. You have no right to take and destroy the property of others. 'Our residents deserve to be safe.. Our businesses deserve to understand and enjoy safety and security,' she said. She pleaded with prosecutors and the courts to do their part to bring those responsible to justice once they are found and identified. 'Our police officers deserve to be able to do their job without having to worry about shots being fired, being maced- this is not anywhere near acceptable. 'I call upon our state's attorney and our courts to make sure these individuals are arrested and held accountable. 'Put your best people on this. We have made the case - these people need to be held accountable. 'We can't continue to allow this to happen,' she said.

A ti mislis da bilo koji USA predsednik pravi razliku izmedju gore navedenih, ukljucujuci Djindjica?

Skladiste u Haifi ne kontrolise teroristicka organizacija. Nigde veze izmedju ta dva.

Bas me interesuje kako ce za ovo da optuze Trampa, inace ono sto ne kaze ovde je da du se organizovano zaletali kolima u izloge da bi ih razbili. Ali evo konacno smo otkrili da pljackanje i lomljenje nije "mirni protesti" Aftermath of looting in downtown Chicago: 13 cops injured, 2 people shot, more than 100 arrests, Mag Mile trashed Hundreds of people swept through the Magnificent Mile and other parts of downtown Chicago early Monday, smashing windows, looting stores, confronting police and at one point exchanging gunfire with officers, authorities said. More than 100 people were arrested as of 9 a.m., according to Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown. Thirteen officers were injured during the unrest, including a sergeant who was hit by a bottle. A civilian and private security guard were shot and wounded. “What occurred in our downtown and surrounding communities was abject criminal behavior, pure and simple,” Mayor Lori Lightfoot said. “And there cannot be any excuse for it. Period.” It took police officers roughly four hours to get the downtown back under control, leading to finger pointing across the political spectrum and calls for the Illinois National Guard to once again help quell unrest in the country’s third-largest city. .... City officials said the seeds for the violent crime spree were sown on social media Sunday afternoon following an officer involved shooting in the Englewood neighborhood. Officers shot and wounded a 20-year-old man Sunday after he fired shots at them while being chased, authorities said. The man was taken to University of Chicago Medical Center and is expected to survive, Brown said. The Civilian Office Police Accountability, the city agency that investigates all officer-involved shootings, released a statement confirming Brown’s assertion that the wounded male is an adult. Some social media accounts that authorities say fueled the unrest referred to him as a 15-year-old boy. More than an hour after the shooting, police and witnesses said a crowd of about 30 people faced off against officers holding a police line near 56th and Aberdeen streets. During a scuffle, one officer was hit with pepper spray and a second officer suffered a minor shoulder injury. Two people were arrested and a police car window was shattered by a brick, police added. ...... The looting and vandalism began shortly after, with people streaming in and out of high-end stores. Some could be seen throwing merchandise into rental trucks and other large vehicles before driving away. “This was not an organized protest,” Brown said. “Rather this was an incident of pure criminality. This was an act of violence against our police officers and against our city.” The looting began shortly after midnight as people darted through broken store windows and doors along Michigan Avenue carrying shopping bags full of merchandise. Cars dropped off more people as the crowd grew.

Moguce da te nisam najbolje razumela, jbga nije bas jasno ko pravi suverenisticke drzave za tajkunske pare, i ko treba da zivi u SR. Ali je jasno, sta si htela da kazes. Ne mislim ja da su oni koji se slazu sa tom pricom, "neinformisani", nego vise defanzivni. A prosvecivati vala necu nikoga. Pssst:ovo je vec pasivno agresivni mod, nema vracanja

Znala sam ja da su velike sile krive za raspad Jugoslavije - majku im njihovu ko nas zavadi, za pranje novca 😂