Angelia

Ako uzmemo u obzir gustinu populacije u nekim velikim gradovima koji su generalno plavi, kako je moguce da se to ponavlja i kad nema razlike u gustini populacije, osim tamo gde je broj umrlih ispod nacionalnog proseka: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As America's response to the coronavirus pandemic splits along partisan lines, a Reuters analysis may help explain why: Death rates in Democratic areas are triple those in Republican ones. By Wednesday, U.S. counties that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential election reported 39 coronavirus deaths per 100,000 residents, according to an analysis of demographic and public health data. In counties that voted for Republican Donald Trump, 13 of every 100,000 people had died from the virus. The uneven impact reflects the disproportionate toll the infectious disease has taken in densely packed Democratic-voting cities like New York. Rural areas and far-flung suburbs that typically back Republicans have not seen as direct an impact. The pattern holds beyond New York, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak. Democratic counties in 36 of the 50 U.S. states collectively reported higher death rates than Republican counties. In Maryland, where the disease has killed more than 2,000 people, the death rate in the Democratic suburbs of Washington is four times higher than in the conservative counties in the Appalachian panhandle. In Kansas, which has reported 152 fatalities, the death rate is seven times higher in the two counties that backed Clinton than in the rest of the state. There are exceptions. Republican counties report a higher death rate in Delaware, Nebraska and South Dakota, where the disease has raced through meatpacking plants. Republican counties have been harder hit in Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota and Texas, where rates are well below the national average. Mozda i ovde imamo razliku u nacinu brojanja smrti od virusa.

Ovo je dnevna aktuelnost koja se tice samo Pensilvanije, ali imam osecaj da ce da izazove paznju, od juce kako izgleda nase fazno otvaranje: U okruzima koji su u prvoj fazi otvaranja (ja nisam, mi smo jos uvek u lockdownu), otvaraju se: obdanista crkve golf igralista i shooting ranges sledeca faza je otvara se sve kao da nista nije bilo. Ovaj plan kao da je osmislio neko od naprednjaka.

I upravo naleteh na ovo: A new report estimates that somewhere between 27,644 to 154,037 people could die from deaths of despair. The Well Being Trust's new report says it's very likely that 75,000 additional deaths, alcohol and drug misuse, and suicide in the next decade as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. Economic failure, isolation, and uncertainty are seen as key contributors to the deaths. Naravno ovo se odnosi samo na US.

Neki ljudi ne prezive transplantaciju, neki umru od komplikacija tokom operacije, to je poznat rizik.

Evo neko napisao bas ono sto sam pricala: Doctors said they’ve also noticed a decline in emergency room visits overall, not just for accidents, and this may also be limiting the supply of donor organs. “Where are all the people with heart attacks? Where are all the people with strokes?” said George Rutherford, a professor and infectious disease physician at the University of California-San Francisco. “Are those patients staying away from the ERs for fear of COVID? Clearly, the census is way down in ERs.” Strokes and heart attacks are the second and third most common sources of organ donations, accounting for 27% and 20% of organs, respectively, according to UNOS. When people die from a stroke or heart attack at home instead of a hospital, their organs cannot be used for transplant because of lost blood flow. Most organ donations occur after a person suffers a near-fatal event and lifesaving measures do not work. For organs to be viable, people must die or be declared brain-dead while on a ventilator, so blood keeps pumping to the heart, lungs, liver and kidneys. A range of other logistical complications have made transplants difficult during the coronavirus pandemic. Hospitals have had to scale back surgeries of all kinds to preserve scarce supplies of personal protective equipment and ventilators. And many haven’t had the bandwidth to manage the delicate timing and complexity of organ donation, recovery, transportation and transplantation. Transplant surgeries across the country plummeted 52% from March 8 to April 11, according to UNOS data. “There’s a lot of things that have to happen perfectly, and now we’re in an imperfect situation where we’re trying to deal with so many other things,” Whaley said. As medical centers braced for a wave of COVID-19 patients, they wanted to free up as many ventilators as possible. In addition to donors needing to die on ventilators to keep their organs viable, doctors often keep them on ventilators for two or three days while transplant teams and recipients are lined up. Then the recipients need to be on ventilators during surgery. “People were very antsy about having non-COVID-19 patients on ventilators, taking up space,” Whaley said. “They wanted to make sure they were ready for that next patient.” Znaci u principu napravili smo trijazu, zivoti i zdravlje onih sa COVID19, za zivote i zdravlje onih bolesnih od drugih oboljenja. To nije nelogicno, to smo radili kroz istoriju covecanstva. Problem je medjutim u tome sto je kumulativno steta od preteranih mera, veca nego sto je smrtnost COVID 19, i to je moglo da se primeti pre vise od mesec dana, umesto sto se uporno drvilo o "spasavanju zivota od virusa".

Koga su guske jurile i labuda se plasi..... Stvarno mi se desilo

Beba je druga prica, savrseno te razumem. Verovatno bi i ja u tom slucaju to radila, zato sam i rekla da mi za moje prilike deluje preterano. Mene bi moja "beba" od dva metra izbacila iz kuce da zahtevam takve stvari i ovako se zali "mama, preterujes..."

Ovo mi deluje preterano, ali za moje prilike, jednom nedeljno u prodavnici je jedino gde sam u blizini ljudi, tako da ako ce to da mi zaradi virus....a u pm. A i u prodavnici nema guzve.

Tako je, a i skontali su da posledice virusa nisu toliko strasne. Ako i bude drugog talasa oko toga se nece praviti ovolika frka.

Stavila ja na onu strucnu temu, zadnje istrazivanje u LA o broju ljudi koji imaju antitela, pa ispada da je zarazenih barem kod njih bilo 20X vise. Medjutim ako pogledamo excess smrt, nje nema 20X vise. Kao sto nije svako ko je zarazen virusom umro, isto stoji da ne svako ko je umro a ima virus, da je umro zbog korone. inace, nevezano za to. Sad pogledala statistiku u Kaliforniji, posto su uradili analizu umrlih od korone. 35% umrlih su iz starackih domova. 79% je preko 65 godina. Recimo kod nas u Filiju 55% je iz starackih domova, tako da mozda im fale neki iz domova.

Mene samo interesuje sta ce ovi mediji raditi kad ne budu imali Trampa da ga prave u baba-rogu? Fox naravno nece nista izgubiti posto vec koliko bese 10 godina ima najgledanije vesti u US, iako su dosta dobili do sada sa trampom, ogroman porast, ali sta ce ovi ostali kad ne budu imali koga da razvlace?

Mislim da imamo razlog zasto je u NYC tako kako jeste, i specificnim krajevima, ovo nije prva vest ovog tipa za NYC: A new video shows what appears to be a massive crowd outside a Brooklyn building, spilling onto the street with people dancing on each other and very few wearing facemasks — the latest demonstration of city residents neglecting social distancing measures. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/video-shows-crowds-gather-on-brooklyn-street-in-another-nyc-social-distancing-failure/2422741/?_osource=db_npd_nbc_wnbc_twt_shr

Novo istrazivanje u LA-ju: The researchers estimate that approximately 4.65% of the county’s adult population has contracted the new coronavirus. As with all statistical estimates, there is a range of uncertainty or margin of error. The analysis suggests that the fraction of adults in Los Angeles who contracted the novel coronavirus could range from as low as 2.5% to just over 7%. The results verify preliminary results that had been released last month https://news.usc.edu/170565/covid-19-antibody-study-coronavirus-infections-los-angeles-county/

Muskarci i lenjir

On the positive side, 2/3 of the unvaccinated animals showed clear evidence of viral pneumonia at autopsy, but none of the vaccinated ones did. The conclusion is that the vaccinated animals were indeed infected – the vaccine did not protect against that – but that the disease was definitely less severe. But these results mean that the virus might well still be transmissible from people who had been so vaccinated, even if the disease course itself was not as deadly. You’d want to do better than that, if you can. Haseltine’s take is “Time will tell if this is the best approach. I wouldn’t bet on it.” https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/05/18/criticism-of-the-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine Jonathan Ball, professor of molecular virology at the University of Nottingham, said the vaccine data suggests that the jab may not be able to prevent the spread of the virus between infected individuals. "That viral loads in the noses of vaccinated and unvaccinated animals were identical is very significant. If the same happened in humans, vaccination would not stop spread," he said. "I genuinely believe that this finding should warrant an urgent re-appraisal of the ongoing human trials of the ChAdOx1 vaccine." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/doubts-oxford-vaccine-fails-stop-coronavirus-animal-trials/

Boldovano znaci da ionako postoji nedostatak organa, tako da je za te ljude tajming bitan. Ne znam koliko u svetu, ovaj brojka od 20 dnevno je za US, uzeta kao i ceo citat sa sajta Americke fondacije za transplantaciju. Ostatak bolda je za to da skontas da se ne moze sve resiti dijalizom, nece pomoci onima kojima trebaju pluca ili srce, ili sta god. Ja nisam nikad rekla da su svih 114,000 zivotno ugrozeni u ovom trenutku. Text je citirao istrazivanje objavljeno u Lancetu. Po UNOSu, oko 9000 godisnje se skida sa liste - da li zbog smrti ili zato sto vise nisu kandidati za transplantaciju, kako razumem sto duze na dijalizi to su manje sanse za transplantaciju. Koliko ce od tih 114,000 umretu zbog odlaganja, je pitanje postavljeno na kraju citata.

Lekar za Belu Kucu potvrdio da je na njegovu preporuku, tj rekao je da pozitivne stvari od tog leka prevazilaze rizike. Ko bi ga znao - mozda mu daju jer ima artritis, u svakom slucaju cak i ako ga pije on to radi pod nadzorom tima lekara.

Negde procitah da su majmuni na kojima je testirana dobili coronu, ne secam se sad gde. Potrazicu.

Evo ovo: Russia has for weeks been suspected of deflating its official coronavirus figures. On Sunday Jamaludin Hajiyibragimov, the health minister for Dagestan, a federal republic of Russia, said the actual death toll in his region is more than 20 times Moscow's official figures. Russia said that Dagestan had 3,371 infections and 29 deaths, while Hajiyibragimov said the region actually has more than 13,000 infections and 657 deaths. According to Hajiyibragimov, the reporting discrepancy is due to how authorities have determined patients' illnesses. Many Russian patients have been diagnosed with "community-acquired pneumonia," which has the same symptoms as COVID-19 but without an official virus test. https://news.yahoo.com/top-health-official-russian-region-153304510.html

Hmmm 25 mil u lockdownu a samo par slucajeva: China has reimposed lockdown measures on northeastern provinces after clusters of new coronavirus cases emerged. The most recent 34 cases were in the province of Jilin, where its two main cities of Shulan and Jilin City have both been placed under renewed lockdown, according to Channel News Asia. There are strict controls on transport and public gatherings, and schools have had to re-close, the channel reported. Another three cases have been found in the neighboring province of Liaoning, according to the channel. Jilin borders North Korea and Russia, the latter being one of the worst-affected countries in the world. https://news.yahoo.com/least-25-million-people-china-145320007.html

Ovo je upravo i razlog zasto se ne mogu gledati brojke samo sa "uvecanjem" smrti u odnosu na prosek. Vec je primeceno da imamo povecan broj umrlih od srcanog udara, zbog stresa cele price i nedostatka zdravstvene brige. Pa onda imamo povecan broj samoubistava, i kako da izracunamo koliko umire od nedostatka dijagnostike....itd Uporedjivanjem ces dobiti posledice epidemije, ali neces dobiti smrtnost od virusa

Jesi videla da nas neko pitao za politicki komentar? Samo bi rekla da imam nesto dana skole vise od njega.

U US se dodaju i moguci slucajevi, tj skoro svi umrli u domovima se sad racunaju kao moguce korona zrtve, i oni koji umru kod kuce a deluju sumnjivo - e to ne znam kako odredjuju. Francuzi su bili dodali ono mnogo smrti iz domova - pa sad smanjili, pa deluje kao da par dana nema novih slucajeva u francuskoj. worldmeter koji svi pratimo - prati US sistem.

Uvek je bio simpatican lik. Volim kako kaze da niko ko je sposoban za predsednika ne zeli poziciju niti se kandiduje. Trebali su da intervjuisu i gospodju T - sigurna sam da bi imala brilijatne savete za administraciju.

deluje tako, Oxford izgleda ne ide bas najbolje.