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Mislim da je svima jasno sada zasto treba biti protiv nasilja: A night of unrest in Madison, Wisconsin, left two statues destroyed, windows smashed and a Democratic state senator hospitalized after he was attacked by a group of protesters near the state Capitol. State Sen. Tim Carpenter said he had been heading into work late Tuesday when he stopped to take a video of protesters gathered outside the Capitol. ‘I don’t know what happened … all I did was stop and take a picture … and the next thing I’m getting five-six punches, getting kicked in the head,’ Carpenter, 60, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Video footage captured by the senator shows hundreds of protesters chanting in the street, before two white female activists break from the pack and charge towards Carpenter’s direction. ‘Hey, you’re not recording,’ one of the women shouts, thrusting her hand towards the senator’s cell phone, eclipsing the camera lens. As Carpenter pleads with the woman to ‘leave’ his phone, she is heard ordering him to delete the video, with the two seemingly ensnared in a struggle over control of the device. In a photo of the melee taken by a bystander, Carpenter, dressed in a blue t-shirt and shorts, is seen standing in the street engaged in an animated conversation with at least two people. It’s unclear what was said before the situation turned violent, but violent it did turn. Carpenter said a group of at least eight to 10 people descended upon him, ‘punching and kicking’ him in the head. The assault has allegedly left him with a suspected concussion and a fractured nose, in addition to a bruised eye, sore ribs and back. ‘This has got to stop before someone gets killed,’ he told the Washington Post. ‘Sad thing I’m on their side for peaceful demonstrations — am a gay progressive Dem senator served 36 years in the legislature.’ Protesters, however, said the state senator had provoked them, the Journal Sentinel’s Lawrence Andrew reported in a tweet. Following the assault, Carpenter was seen kneeling down on the ground by his car. An ambulance was called after the 60-year-old ‘collapsed walking towards the Capitol’. ‘We called paramedics. An ambulance is here now,’ WKOW reported Lance Veeser tweeted, sharing an image of Carpenter lying on his back in shrubbery with his eyes closed. The unrest comes on the heels of the Memorial Day death of George Floyd, the 46-year-old black man who died unarmed and handcuffed under the knee of Officer Derek Chauvin of the Minneapolis Police Department. ..... The demonstrators also pulled down two statues, including one of Col. Hans Christian Heg, a Norwegian immigrant and abolitionist who died fighting for the Union during the Civil War in 1863. His shrine was beheaded and thrown into a nearby river, local media reported. A second monument, known as the ‘Forward’ statue, was torn down and dragged away from its base at the steps of the Capitol building. The bronze allegorical statue, which is more than 100 years old, depicts a female figure standing on the prow of a boat, with her right hand stretched out while her left clasps the American flag. The Wisconsin Historical Society said the statue symbolizes devotion and progress, according to its website. Wisconsin State Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, a Republican, criticized the demonstration and labelled the hundreds protesting in the streets as ‘thugs’. 'This is absolutely despicable. I am saddened at the cowardice of Madison officials to deal with these thugs,’ Vos tweeted. Early Wednesday, police in riot gear worked to clear the crowd amid reports they were trying to break the doors and windows of the Capitol building. The group ignored police instructions to disperse. In response, the police repeatedly played a recorded message stating, ‘This is an unlawful gathering. Please leave the area immediately.’

Ako si informacije skupljao sa twittera - totalno te razumem ja taj otrov obilazim u sirokom luku. Od skora imam nalog, ne sluzi nicemu, to je bilo zato sto me prijatelj smarao sto ga ne pratim na twiteru i nalog napravljen samo za to. A inace i ima ljudi koji se sa neizvesnoscu bore na razlicite nacine, moj je da se informisem.

U pravu si, u pocetku je bilo tesko opterecenje (ali imala sam vremena), ali sada vec lako mogu da pogledam odredjene textove, ili istrazivanja i da znam da nema smisla da citam. Napravicu ti kratak summary: niko ne zna dovoljno o virusu, nemaju resenje, znaju kako se prenosi, na tebi je da sebe drzis bezbednim. Znaci nista guzva, drzi distancu (svi na oni sa sportskim okupljanjima i slicno a bez zastite su budale). Medjutim virus je tu, i ostace barem neko vreme, kao grip. Ti samo mozes da umanjis verovatnocu da ga dobijes. To kad prihvatis, sve ostalo te nece preterano opterecivati

Ti uopste nisi jedini. Ovaj virus ce ostaviti dugotrajne mentalne posledice na populaciju, znaci od lockdowna pa do nesigurnosti. Vec su ti drugi odgovorili sa mnogo materijala. Ja se protiv nepoznatog borim citanjeg svega moguceg na temu. Ja sam jos uvek u manje vise lockdownu. Tj sedim u kuci, formalno mogu da idem, samo bas i nemam gde. Zooloski vrt otvaraju valjda za dva dana Tu i tamo po neka prodavnica se otvorila gde imaju ono 50% kapaciteta ili slicno pa stoje redovi....meni se ne provodi par sati ispod maske, na ovoj vrucini. Ako hoces da budes pazljiv, moraces da skontas da smo se probudili u nekom novom normalnom, zovi ti to distopija, ali ovaj virus ne ide nigde jos barem dve godine. Tako da maske, ostaju na duze vreme.

Hmmmm, da problem je Tramp, a ne sto imamo wild mob, koja u lokalu ugrozava gradjanska prava. Imamo lokalnu vlast koja dozvoljava da te neko utepa pod izgovorom da si "rasista", ali problem je predsednik koji nema veze s time. Mediji koji tvrde da su "protesti mirni", iako nasilje cveta, Cuomo koji tvrdi da je njegova odluka da strpa Covid pozitivne u staracke domove ustvari zato sto je slusao Trampa (mislim kad je on slusao Trampa). Pratim medije, i niko ne kupuje to sto prodaju.

Zivo me interesuje kako ce ovo da izvedu "mirno", Antifa raj nesto ne funkcionise?: Seattle officials announced on Monday that they would begin to dismantle the six blocks of occupied streets known as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or “Chaz”, following two shootings at the site in 48 hours. “It’s time for people to go home. It is time for us to restore Cal Anderson and Capitol Hill so it can be a vibrant part of the community,” said the Seattle mayor, Jenny Durkan, during a press conference. “We can still accommodate people who want to protest peacefully, come there and gather. But the impacts on the businesses and residents and community are now too much.” Durkan said Seattle police would be returning to the east precinct, the site they abandoned after a series of dangerous clashes between protesters and law enforcement. She said they’ll do so “peacefully” and “in the near future” but did not offer an exact timeline. The decision comes about two weeks after a section of the Seattle neighborhood of Capitol Hill was occupied by protesters as a self-proclaimed police-free zone. The area is also known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (Chop). Hundreds of protesters have faithfully gathered there each day and night, filling the area with free food and community gardens, and holding speeches and teach-ins. Although it had been largely peaceful, that changed over the weekend, when two separate shootings took place. A 19-year-old man was killed and two others were injured, one critically. Officers responding to the shooting have said they “were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers’ safe access to the victims”, according to a police blog. Investigations of the shootings are still ongoing. During the press conference Monday, the Seattle police chief, Carmen Best, said that while there had been countless people protesting peacefully, there had also been “shootings, a rape, assaults, burglary, arson, and property destruction”. “This isn’t a debate about first amendment rights, this is about life or death,” she added. When asked what officials will do if people don’t voluntarily leave the area, Durkan said they planned to use a range of techniques, including working with black-led organizations to communicate with the people in the zone and offering outreach to those there who are homeless. “I think we’ve seen across the country and Seattle, it would not be an effective strategy to simply send police in to try to clear the area,” she said. The decision to send police back into the precinct was a major disappointment for some in the community who wanted the site repurposed. Kshama Sawant, a Socialist city councilwoman, has pushed for the precinct to be “turned over permanently into community control”. She recently announced on Twitter that she would be introducing legislation to convert the east precinct into a community center for restorative justice.

Ventura County Sheriff's Office, DA Office Employees Among 3 Arrested In Vandalism Of 'BLM' Sign Spomenike mozemo da rusimo, ali nemoj slucajno da ostetis BLM znak

A bronze statue of former US President Theodore Roosevelt is to be removed amid an ongoing backlash against symbols of racial bias and imperialism. The statue outside the American Museum of Natural History in New York shows Roosevelt on horseback flanked by a Native American man and an African man. Pa to je NY Times, novina koja je promenila naslovnu stranu da ne zvuci slucajno pozitivno za Trampa.

Nisam vadila krv, a ne znam da sam nekog zarazila, nije to bilo lako, sa aerodroma uzela Uber, 24 sata nisam bila u bliskom kontaktu ni sa kim. Do tada su simptomi bili jaki tako da sam izbegavala da se priblizim ljudima (to praktikujem i kod obicne prehlade). Znam naravno ko je meni dao.. jasno je meni da ne mora da znaci, samo znam da takav grip nisam nikad imala, a i osoba koja mi je dala je bolovala 2 meseca skoro. Inace u to vreme mi smo bili ubedjeni da imamo neki cudan grip. I to sam cula od dosta ljudi ove zime, zvanicno pre corone.

Ja sam u Sr fasovala neki jako cudan virus, koji je najverovatnije, imao direktnu vezu sa Azijom (znam kako), negde u oktobru - novembru, ne secam se tacnih datuma, ali sam nekim ljudima na forumu rekla kad sam napravila konekciju. nisam povezala taj cudan grip dok se nije pojavila prica o COVID 19. Inace ne oboljevam od gripa i slicno, cesto (mozda jednom u 5 godina). Nije mi ni palo na pamet dok me ljudi u martu/aprilu nisi podsetili kako sam bila bolesna ko pas. To nije bio obican grip. Inace ja sam prosla kroz aerodrom u to vreme, a da znam da sam bila zarazena sada, na letu za UK ako se tacno secam pa onda za US. Tek kad sam stigla u US skontala sam da sam pokupila neki gadan virus gripa. Simptomi su bili kompletno COVID 19. Planiram cim mogu da proverim da li imam anti-tela. Pa kad to obavim javicu, ako imam, virus je u Evropi bio u septembru, mozda gresim i kontam jako los grip kao COVID 19.

Pa to mu je i bila strategija, da bude potpuno nepredvidljiv, pa da ga se stoga plase. Da napravi potpuni odklon od uobicajenih diplomata.

Zar nije u Francuskoj jos uvek 14 dana karantina za sve van EU?

Ja mislim da su protestanti odlucili da pomognu Trampu da dobije izbore The statues targeted included a bust of Ulysses Grant, who was the US president after he was the general who finally beat the Confederates and ended the Civil War. Protesters said Grant owned slaves. He married into a slave-owning family, but had no problem fighting to end slavery. Grant also supported the 1868 Republican platform when he won the presidency which called for allowing Black men to continue voting in the South. Also torn down in the San Francisco park was a statue of Francis Scott Key, who wrote the US national anthem 'Star Spangled Banner.' Key owned slaves.

Za one koji imaju sumnje sta je BLM, i zasto antifa ....

Ustavom zagarantovano pravo. Ako joj je to pravo ugrozeno, zna se gde se ide.

Ima pravo na prvi amandman van radnog mesta, isto kao i ova zena ima pravo na prvi amandman van radnog mesta. Tako da ako je otpustena zbog tweeta, banka ce da plati debelo obestecenje. Ono sto javne licnosti nemaju, a to je ta morality clause, zato sto im je sposobnost zarade direktno povezana sa javnim profilom. Zato je R. Barr dobila otkaz, iako je bilo glupavo. Znaci ne mozes da otpustis radnika zato sto je isao na BLM protest, iako mozda ne podrzavas taj protest, osim u slucaju da je zbog toga napustio radno mesto

DC policija: According to the survey of 600 local law enforcement members, of the 71% considering leaving, 25% may retire earlier than planned, 35% are seeking jobs at other law enforcement agencies, and 39% are considering leaving law enforcement altogether. Additionally, 96% of those members polled said they believe crime will increase, and 88% said officer safety will plunge.

Ili mozda da se zapitas da li ti prezentujes svoje argumente adekvatno? Vidis ja moje jasno raspravljam, pa imas priliku da mi objasnis sta ne razumem. Da ti smatras da se neka zanimanja suvise placaju? To je tvoje subjektivno misljenje, zato sto ti ne maris za ta zanimanja, medjutim ekonomija te demantuje.

To nije odgovor (i dozvoli mi da malo bolje znam mog poslodavca od tebe ) Ti razumes da tvoja prica da poslodavac ima pravo da odluci ko hoce da radi za njega, ne prolazi izazov diskriminacije.

Pa ali to nije odgovor na moje pitanje. Na slobodnom trzistu cena tvog rada je ono sto je neko spreman da plati, tako da ne postoji precenjeno zanimanje. Osim ako to nije dirigovano od strane drzave. Corona porez? Ali oni vec placaju progresivni porez (u vecini razvijenih zemalja), znaci samo mogu da preracunam dokle mi se isplati da radim, i u roku od godinu dana ti imas problem, jer sto bi ja radila za dzabe?

Ti bi bi bio poslat tamo gde sunce ne sija Ali dobro ja imam taj luksuz. Ja uopste ne sudim o drugima, ja ti objasnjavam kako stvari funkcionisu. Mislim nemam pojma sta ti hoces, pa to je bio slucaj sa Kaepernickom - nisu ga otpustili, nego su ga sklonili sa terena i on sam dao otkaz. Ali je ipak dobio obestecenje. Zar nisam ja govorila kad je Roseanne Barr dobila otkaz da je suludo, ali da ima verovatno morality clause u ugovoru. Mislim zamisli sad kad bi neki poslodavac rekao izvini ali ja cu na projektu da zaradim 20 mil ali nece tebe zato sto si crn/gay....sta god?

Ali mene stvarno interesuje tvoj odgovor na ovo pitanje. Znaci kad Ronaldo dobije ugovor od 20 mil (stvarno lupam cifre) ti dodjes i kazes ali ti si precenjen da nam das 10 mil za zdravstvo, koja je motivacija za Ronalda da pristane na tako nesto? Zasto ne prosto zakljuci ugovor na 10 mil i ti nemas sta da mu uzmes? I uostalom zasto bi mu bilo ko dao 20 mil ako je "precenjen".

Zato sto praktikuje svoje ustavom zagarantovano pravo. Za obicnog radnika ne postoji morality clause - zato sto ne mogu da izazovu takvu stetu. Imaju samo da ne smeju da pocine krivicno delo. A praktikovanje slobode govora i politickog misljenja nije krivicno delo.....jos uvek Edit: btw morality clause nema veze sa zakonom, nego sa ugovorima. A ugovori mogu da budu kako se dogovorimo. Kad bi uslov bio samo "sta poslodavcu odgovara" onda bi on recimo mogao da izabere da otpusti sve muslimane jer su mu musterije jevreji, ili tako neka slicna prica koja spada pod diskriminaciju.

Niko ne osporava pravo poslodavca da otpusti nekog ko mu ugrozava reputaciju, to zavisi od ugovora generalno. Mislim osim kad je u pitanju diskriminacija, tu se zavrsava pravo poslodavca. Posto se ne radi o javnoj licnosti, sportisti, glumcu, voditelju...koji obicno imaju "morality clause" nego o obicnom radniku, oni tvrde "nezdravu atmosferu", sto odprilike ima istu sansu da prodje na sudu kao i pahulja u paklu. To ce reci da ce zena dobiti ogromno obestecenje - cega je i firma svesna, ali platice osiguranje.... bitnije je pokazati saglasnost sa ludilom nego koliko ce da kosta. Pitam se ko ce da potegne na SC pitanje.

Verovatnoca da te policija upuca, a da si se ti nevino setao ulicom je takoreci manja nego da te munja pogodi (nisam proveravala stvarnu verovatnocu). Bez obzira na boju kozu. Ta verovatnoca se povecava ako si u procesu cinjenja nekog prekrsaja, i/ili si pijan, drogiran. Jos se vise povecava ako se opires hapsenju, bez obzira da li se pravis pametan, ili imas mentalnih problema, a extremno se % povecava ako si probao da onesposobis policajca ili mu uzmes oruzje. i bez obzira na % povecanje, sva ta statistika u zemlji gde se godisnje izvrsi 10 miliona hapsenja, se metaforicki svodi na mogucnost da ti saksija ili klavir padnu na glavu, bez obzira koje si boje. Znaci na oko 10 miliona hapsenja, 9 nenaoruzanih crnaca je poginulo prosle godine. i to sto su bili nenaoruzanu u trenutku hapsenja ne znaci da nisu napali policajca, ili probali da uzmu oruzje. Znaci 9, na 10 miliona hapsenja, 50 miliona interakcije sa policijom, i 330 miliona gradjana. Pa ako je policija sistemski rasisticka i bas je resila da pobije crnce - deluju totalno ne-efikasni u tom cilju. Naravno da je tragicno kad se to desi, sigurno nije ni policajcu lako, osim ako ne zamisljamo da su oni sadisticki idioti...