Cojep Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Cojep said: vremenski nizovi tenisera u Open eri sa Elo rejtingom preko 2300 (ekvivalent rejtingu FIDE majstora u sahu) 11 god 6 m Djokovic ( dec 2010 - ) current 2355 11 god 3 m Connors ( mar 1974 - jun 1985 ) 9 god 10 m Lendl ( avg 1981 - jun 1991 ) 9 god 6 m Federer ( mar 2004 - sep 2013 ) 8 god 4 m McEnroe ( apr 1979 - avg 1987 ) 7 god 6 m Federer ( nov 2013 - maj 2021 ) 7 god 4 m Nadal ( apr 2008 - avg 2015 ) 6 god 9 m Borg ( maj 1976 - apr 1983 ) 5 god 0 m Nadal ( maj 2017 - ) current 2378 idemo dalje, hipotetickom titulom Internacionalnog majstora (Elo rejting preko 2400) bi se u Open eri okitili: Lejver, Viljas, Konors, Borg, Mekenro, Lendl, Beker, Sampras, Federer, Nadal, Djokovic i Marej. zvanje FIDE velemajstora (Elo r. 2500 i vise) bi ponela njih devetorica, dok su rejting od preko 2600 do sad dosegla samo 2 coveka: Bjorn Borg (2622) i Novak Djokovic (2629) 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojep Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) nizovi Open ere (Elo rejting preko 2300) po podlogama i uslovima: Clay Elo 2300+ 17 god 0 m Nadal ( maj 2005 – ) & counting / 2442 11 god 6 m Lendl ( okt 1980 - apr 1992 ) 11 god 0 m Djokovic ( maj 2011 – ) & counting / 2334 8 god 3 m Rosewall ( maj 1968 - avg 1976 ) + jos ko zna koliko pre Open ere 7 god 10 m Borg ( jun 1975 - apr 1983 ) 7 god 3 m Federer ( apr 2006 - jul 2013 ) 7 god 0 m Vilas ( avg 1976 - avg 1983 ) 5 god 9 m Connors ( avg 1976 - maj 1982 ) 4 god 0 m Wilander ( apr 1983 - apr 1987 ) Grass Elo 2300+ 17 god 10 m Federer ( jul 2004 – ) & counting / 2340 14 god 0 m Connors ( jul 1974 - jul 1988 ) 10 god 0 m McEnroe ( jul 1980 - jul 1990 ) 9 god 2 m Sampras ( jul 1994 - sep 2003 ) 8 god 10 m Djokovic ( jul 2013 – ) & counting / 2521 8 god 5 m Murray ( jul 2012 - dec 2020 ) 6 god 0 m Becker ( jun 1988 - jun 1994 ) 6 god 0 m Edberg ( jul 1988 - jun 1994 ) 5 god 9 m Borg ( jul 1977 - apr 1983 ) Hard Elo 2300+ 17 god 7 m Federer ( nov 2003 - jun 2021 ) 12 god 9 m Djokovic ( avg 2009 – ) & counting / 2404 6 god 9 m Lendl ( apr 1985 - jan 1992 ) 6 god 2 m Sampras ( avg 1992 - okt 1998 ) 4 god 10 m Connors ( maj 1977 - mart 1982 ) 4 god 3 m Murray ( sep 2014 - dec 2018 ) Carpet Elo 2300+ 9 god 9 m McEnroe ( jan 1979 - okt 1988 ) 9 god 9 m Lendl ( mart 1982 - dec 1991 ) 9 god 0 m Connors ( feb 1975 - jan 1986 ) 5 god 9 m Laver ( jul 1968 - apr 1974 ) plus period pre Open ere 5 god 8 m Becker ( apr 1988 - dec 1993 ) 5 god 0 m Borg ( apr 1977 - apr 1982 ) 4 god 0 m Sampras ( nov 1996 - nov 2000 ) Outdoor Elo 2300+ 9 god 10 m Lendl ( avg 1981 - jun 1991 ) 9 god 9 m Federer ( feb 2004 - nov 2013 ) 9 god 5 m Nadal ( apr 2006 - sep 2015 ) 8 god 9 m Connors ( sep 1974 - jun 1985 ) 7 god 10 m Djokovic ( sep 2010 - jun 2018 ) 7 god 9 m McEnroe ( sep 1980 - jun 1988 ) 7 god 4 m Federer ( jan 2014 - maj 2021 ) 6 god 9 m Borg ( jul 1976 - apr 1983 ) 5 god 0 m Nadal ( maj 2017 – ) & counting / 2407 3 god 10 m Djokovic ( jul 2018 – ) & counting / 2369 3 god 9 m Sampras ( sep 1993 - jun 1997 ) Indoor Elo 2300+ 11 god 1 m McEnroe ( jan 1979 - feb 1990 ) 10 god 0 m Lendl ( nov 1981 - nov 1991 ) 9 god 2 m Connors ( nov 1974 - jan 1985 ) 7 god 0 m Djokovic ( nov 2013 - nov 2020 ) 5 god 8 m Becker ( apr 1988 - dec 1993 ) 5 god 0 m Federer ( nov 2014 - nov 2019 ) 5 god 0 m Borg ( apr 1977 - apr 1982 ) Edited May 10, 2022 by Cojep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojep Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Clay peak elo rating 2669 Nadal 2650 Borg 2538 Djokovic 2536 Lendl 2521 Vilas 2469 Clerc Grass peak elo rating 2562 Borg 2547 Federer 2542 Connors 2523 Djokovic [Active rating] 2517 McEnroe 2501 Sampras Hard peak elo rating 2670 Djokovic 2637 Federer 2524 Sampras 2512 Lendl 2506 Nadal 2500 Agassi Carpet peak elo rating 2690 McEnroe 2582 Borg 2563 Lendl 2542 Becker 2530 Connors 2444 Edberg ----------- Outdoor peak elo rating 2617 Borg 2605 Djokovic 2573 Nadal 2537 Federer 2492 Lendl 2492 Connors Indoor peak elo rating 2687 McEnroe 2564 Lendl 2548 Borg 2547 Becker 2515 Connors 2497 Djokovic 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Fenomenalni podaci. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romantik Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Može li malo pojašnjenje, kako se dobija taj ELO rejting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojep Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 to je sahovski sistem vrednovanja koji stavlja akcenat na jacinu protivnika, tj popularnu-konkurenciju 🙂 npr Rubljovljev elo rejting vise skace kad dobije Djokovica u finalu Beograda nego Veselog u finalu Dubaija iako tamo uzima vise atp bodova, kao sto ce Rafin da padne znatno vise porazom od Lojda Harisa u Vasingtonu nego od Novaka na RG itd i sl. imas online detaljnija objasnjenja i sistem racunanja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 To ti je kao kad igraš šah i imaš 1600 rejting i naiđe ti neki protivnik od 2400 od kog izgubiš, tebi će se rejting vrlo malo smanjiti (jer se prema rejtingu očekuje da je mnogo bolji od tebe), ali zato kada bi izgubio od nekog kome je rejting 800, pao bi ti rejting dosta. Tako isto i sa pobedama, ako pobediš slabijeg od sebe, rejting će ti se povećati nešto malo, ali ako pobediš nekog jačeg, dosta se više povećava ELO rejting. I kao što je Cojep naveo, to uopšte nema veze sa jačinom turnira, već isključivo sa jačinom protivnika, odnosno koliko te protivnike pobeđuješ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 sad sam pogledala one statistike: najvise nedelja kao... pa da stavim ovde: (ima malo razlika u podacima s wikipedije i s ultimatetennisstatistics) sedmice na #1 vec znamo (od narednog ponedeljka) 1. Novak - 370 2. Fed - 310 3. Sampras - 286 4. Lendl - 270 5. Connors - 268 6. Nadal - 209 7. McEnroe - 170 8. Borg - 109 9. Agassi - 101 10. Hewitt - 80 u Top2 1. Nadal - 579 2. Fed - 528 3. Novak - 517 4. Connors - 387 5. Lendl - 376 6. Sampras - 376 7. McEnroe - 309 8. Borg - 261 9. Agassi - 189 10. Edberg - 176 sedmice na #2 (od narednog ponedeljka) ovih koji su najvise bili u top 2 1. Nadal - 370 2. Fed - 218 3. Borg - 152 4. Novak - 147 5. McEnroe - 139 6. Becker - 136 7. Connors - 119 8. Lendl - 106 9. Edberg -104 10. Sampras - 90 u top3 1. Fed - 750 2. Novak - 665 3. Nadal - 657 4. Connors - 592 5. Lendl - 499 6. Sampras - 457 7. McEnroe - 374 8. Edberg - 342 9. Borg - 324 10. Agassi - 264 od toga su bili #3 1. Fed - 222 2. Connors - 206 3. Edberg - 166 4. Novak - 148 5. Lendl - 122 6. Vilas - 119 7. Endi - 106 8. Becker - 100 9. Wilander - 96 10. Sampras - 81 11. Nadal - 78 u Top 4 1. Fed - 804 2. Nadal - 722 3. Novak - 697 4. Connors - 669 5. Lendl - 540 6. Sampras - 484 7. McEnroe - 407 7. Endi - 407 9. Becker - 392 10. Agassi - 378 11. Edberg - 372 12. Borg - 363 od toga su bili #4 (ovde mozda ima jos nekog ko je izmedju ovih): 1. Endi - 181 2. Becker - 144 3. Agassi - 114 4. Wilander - 100 5. Connors - 77 6. Nadal - 65 7. Fed - 54 8. Lendl - 41 9. Borg - 39 10. McEnroe - 33 11. Novak - 32 12. Edberg - 30 12. Roddick - 30 interesantno da se u kategorijama: najvise sedmica u top 2, 3 ili 4 vrte 5 imena: Novak, Fed, Nadal, Connors i Lendl, a da su Big3 uvek na pozicijama 1-3. Govori o njihovoj dugovecnosti i to na vrhu. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Gde se mogu videti razni rekordi u vezi turnira masters kategorije? Znam da je to ranije bilo na svakom ćošku, sad kad je Novak poobarao sve rekorde ili je na putu, nema nigde da se nađe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 probaj ovde: https://www.ultimatetennisstatistics.com/records ja sam tu nasla ove podatke za brojeve nedelja na pojedinim mestima na rang listi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Dracarys said: Gde se mogu videti razni rekordi u vezi turnira masters kategorije? Znam da je to ranije bilo na svakom ćošku, sad kad je Novak poobarao sve rekorde ili je na putu, nema nigde da se nađe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Masters_Series_singles_records_and_statistics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) % pobeda Connors - 81,82% Fed - 81,98% Lendl - 81,53% Nadal - 83,21% Novak - 83,13% Vilas - 76,20% Nastase - 73,11% McEnroe - 81,68% Agassi - 76,05% Edberg - 74,79% Edited May 14, 2022 by wwww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 WTA longest match win streaks since 2000 Venus - 35 Serena - 34 Henin - 32 Serena - 27 Iga - 27 Azarenka - 26 Serena - 25 Henin - 24 Venus - 24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Милица Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Nisam ovo mogla da nadjem, a neki dan sam u prenosu cula da pominju Serenin niz od 27 pa sam mislila da je najduzi. Hvala ti wwww za ovaj podatak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cojep Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) trofejni saldo i neka ostvarenja u trenutku kad je izvojevana hiljadita atp pobeda: (Lendla i Konorsa cu sutra da procesljam) Djokovic – 1000 : 203 (34 god) – 86 tit / 20 gs , 37 mast , 369 ned , 231 top ten pob Nadal – 1000 : 201 (34 god) – 86 tit / 20 gs , 35 mast , 209 ned , 172 top ten pob Federer – 1000 : 227 (33 god) – 83 tit / 17 gs , 20 mast , 302 ned , 183 top ten pob Edited May 14, 2022 by Cojep 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 14, 2022 Author Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) nasla sam ovaj dodatak: Novak Djokovic: 1000 Career Wins 231/1000 (23.1%) are Vs Top 10 Breaking Down the 231 Majors: 61 Top 10 Wins YECs: 39 Top 10 Wins 1000s: 98 Top 10 Wins 500s: 20 Top 10 Wins 250s: 4 Top 10 Wins ATP Cup: 5 Top 10 Wins Davis Cup: 2 Top 10 Wins Olympics: 2 Top 10 Wins TOP-10 wins: DJOKOVIC 231 (23.1%) FEDERER 223 (17.82%) NADAL 181 (17.22%) LENDL 165 (15.45%) CONNORS 103 (8.08%) Big titles won (GS, M1000, ATP finals, OG) : Djokovic : 62 Nadal : 58 Federer : 54 Lendl : 35 Connors : 26 Not only Djokovic is number one but he did it with only 1000 matches won… % big finals played (GS, M1000, ATP finals, OG) Djokovic : 93/125 (74,4 %) Nadal : 85/129 (65,8%) Federer : 92/157 (58,5%) Most ATP Masters 1000 finals Djokovic - 55 Nadal - 53 Federer - 50 Edited May 15, 2022 by wwww 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracarys Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Nema sumnje da će Novak da nabije žestok broj pobeda protiv TOP10 igrača. To je dokaz koliko je težak put bio njegov do titula. Ne bih znao ni izbliza da prognoziram njegov konačan broj, jer to zavisi od forme i zdravlja u nadolazećim godinama, ali ja bih rekao da bi mogao ići i do 260+ Novak i dalje ima neki TOP nivo igre, ali i uz pad u narednim godinama on će biti savršeno sposoban da skida favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cojep Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 dodati Ivan i Dzimi Djokovic – 1000 : 203 (34 god) – 86 tit / 20 gs , 37 mast , 369 ned , 231 top ten pob Nadal – 1000 : 201 (34 god) – 86 tit / 20 gs , 35 mast , 209 ned , 172 top ten pob Federer – 1000 : 227 (33 god) – 83 tit / 17 gs , 20 mast , 302 ned , 183 top ten pob Lendl – 1000 : 199 (32 god) – 91 tit / 8 gs , ~20 mast , 270 ned , 159 top ten pob Connors – 1000 : 167 (32 god) – 103 tit / 8 gs , ~20 mast , 268 ned , 133 top ten pob 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 Fab Four's wins in Big Events Djokovic: 787/1000 (78.7%) Nadal: 734/1051 (69.8%) Federer: 822/1245 (66%) Murray: 443/703 (63%) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 most career wins ATP masters 1000 events Nadal: 406-86 - 82,52% Fed: 381-108 - 77,91% Novak: 381-83 - 82,11% Endi: 222-89 - 71,38% Agassi: 209-73 - 74,11% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwww Posted May 15, 2022 Author Share Posted May 15, 2022 https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-rome-2022-big-titles 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcesta Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 18 hours ago, wwww said: Raonić i Sok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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