Bugl Khan Posted Tuesday at 01:04 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:04 PM (edited) 10 minutes ago, rodriguez said: @Bugl Khan Ne znam da li znaš lika koji se zove @Zli Gli, malo je čudan znam. nema šanse da bi tvrdio išta od ovog. 50 ljudi i ponavljaju 5 stvari u krug. Priznam, kad bi netko rekao da je Jokic sranje u obrani i ja bi vadio steals, dreb, boxouts, deflections....jer to je obrana, ali zadnjih par dana sam shvatio zašto to nije dovoljno. Jokic nije toliko loš u obrani, nije dobar (u playoffu je iznadprosjecan). Ali najbolji obrambeni igrac u povijesti kosarke. Di su Jordanu skokovi i asistencije? Ljudi od 50 godina Da jos, AD je smijesan u obrani. Reko, pa u 2 serije protiv Denvera, ko je igrao bolju obranu Jokic ili AD? ahahahahahahahahaha, pa koji je AD ukradenim loptama? neobrazovan si u košarkaškoj igri ako misliš da je Wemby dobar u obrani. Neće on dugo, teška ozljeda ga čeka. teški šljam od ljudi. Onda naravno, mrze ga jer je Srbin. Nabrojim 20 izjava najvećih legendi koje mu daju najveće kolmlimente, kažem da ima 3MVPa, da je 2x bio drugi. lik mi odgovori, vidi se da si Amerikanac. Ne znaš više jel urebesno ili tuzno. E sda, jucer sam gledao prijenos s TV od Nuggets, ona zena i neki lik. Pustili su Wembijevu izjavu, i zvali ih OKC Foulbaiters. Drago mi je što sve više ljudi vidi kao mlate u obrani, a šta SGA dobija u napadu. Kad je jedan od onih s dugim kosama nvlacio Webija, pa Wemby napravio onaj flex, prejako. Edited Tuesday at 01:15 PM by Bugl Khan 1
Bugl Khan Posted Tuesday at 01:17 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:17 PM 1 hour ago, Урош19 said: Ja razumeo da misliš na finale plej ofa, već sam bio spreman da im zapalim prostorije. bar nemaš NBA na SK i 3 utakmice tjedno
Урош19 Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:23 PM (edited) Edited Tuesday at 01:23 PM by Урош19
Bugl Khan Posted Tuesday at 01:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:25 PM 5 hours ago, Barkley#34 said: Šta je bilo sa Votsonom, samo nekoliko minuta je odigrao? slabo su rotirali i jedni i drugi. Ili mi se cini. Imam opsjecaj da je igralo 6 igraca sa asvake strane. Ali Watson stvarno ne znam. Bio je obucen za tekmu. 3 minutes ago, Урош19 said: brzo su ljudi zaboravili 90e 4 hours ago, Darko said: Samo 18 godina ima, mada puni 19 ove nedelje. I nema 20 driblinga samo zato jer moze. 1, 2 skok šut. A vi se natjecite ko je atraktivniji.
Barkley#34 Posted Tuesday at 01:28 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:28 PM Video sam posle na nba.com. Povredio se. 1
Bugl Khan Posted Tuesday at 01:31 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:31 PM 4 hours ago, freethrow said: Ponukan Son of a Gunovim izuzetnim postom o KKP i Svetlani Veličković, pokšah da razmislim da napravim sličnu stvar sa GSW i Pistolsima. Steph: God Save the Queen Draymond: Submission Podziemsky: Bodies Butler: No feelings Horford: Holidays in the sun Kuminga: Problems Seth Curry: New York Moody: Pretty vacant Kerr: Liar Richard: Seventeen Spencer: Anarchy in the UK Dunleavy: E.M.I. Kerr: Jolene by Mark Jackson 3 minutes ago, Barkley#34 said: Video sam posle na nba.com. Povredio se. sjajno. Sreca pa nitko od najboljih defanzivaca nije ozlijeđen 1
Chaos Is Me Posted Tuesday at 01:42 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:42 PM 1 hour ago, bodo said: Spursi sve više liče na ozbiljnu ekipu. Kako se tebi sve to skupa čini? Mogu li po tebi do konferencijskog finala? Ne, jer ne vidim kako mogu u ovom trenutku preko OKC ili Denvera. Protiv Rocketsa već imaju bolje šanse ali su opet autsajderi. Ali polako sa tim, ima tu još ekipa koje neće biti lako preskočiti, poput Wolvesa, Lakersa, a možda i Mavsa sa Irvingom. Uostalom, nije ni bitno, ekipa raste, za ovu sezonu je i učešće u PO sasvim ok, a od sledeće već svi da drže gaće. Vassell i Keldon Johnson igraju daleko bolje nego prošle sezone, ali ostaje pitanje nekog legit PF startera jer koliko god i Harrison Barnes bio gotivan lik, pravi profesionalac i veoma dobar karakter, nije mi on kao starter za ekipu za najviše domete. Ostaje i ta dilema šta raditi sa Foxom, rekao sam već da je imho Castle nedodirljiv kao drugi igrač ekipe (od sledeće sezone verovatno i bez dileme), Harper ima potencijal i deluje da organski bolje paše uz Wembya i Castlea nego Fox. Svakako bih proverio šta Bucksi traže za Giannisa i da li neki paket oko Foxa može da ih zadovolji (a da pri tome ne mora da se da i Vassell). Naravno, ne bih nikad u životu voleo da navijam za Giannisa ali objektivno bi teško bilo prigovoriti takvom potezu ako bi ga Spursi izveli. A opet, možda ostaviti ovu ekipu i čekati organski razvoj pa da vremenom Harper zameni Foxa kao starter a onda ovaj da bude 6th man contender. U svakom slučaju, lepi dani za navijače Spursa poput mene posle dosta vremena. 5
Bugl Khan Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM 19 minutes ago, Barkley#34 said: Video sam posle na nba.com. Povredio se. Igrao je na početju. Ja sam gledao od negdje sredine 2Q. Valjda nije ozbiljno
Ludi za Poli Posted Tuesday at 02:01 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 02:01 PM Spursi zbog Wemby efekta i atleticizma na bekovskim pozicijama ima mozda i najbolje sanse protiv OKCa od svih ekipa na Zapadu. Valjalo bi im eventualno trejdovati za neko bolje startno krilo.
gggggggg Posted Tuesday at 02:18 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:18 PM meni se cini da bi i okc trebao da trejduje dorta i da dovede nekog boljeg napadaca. a denver vec ima 2-0 protiv houstona i vec im beze 2 pobede sto nije zanemarljivo
delgado Posted Tuesday at 02:25 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:25 PM (edited) Sto se tice Lakersa, realno imaju najbolji moguci skor u odnosu na igru, svi porazi su bili dvocifreni i prilicna kantanja, dok su svaku tesnu dobili, nijednu tu 'clutch' utakmicu nisu izgubili. Nedavno i Toronto i Fila i Finix na gostovanjima, gde je Kingov grejtnes ozbiljno pogurao i bio presudan. Medjutim, koliko god ofanzivni potencijal bio ogroman i na njemu u RS moze fino da se kruzira i pobedjuje na kos vise vristi da defanziva skripi i da je ova igra stvorena da fejluje u plejofu. Ni Doncic ni Rivs nece dobijati tamo toliko bacanja, a problem odbrane ce biti jos izrazeniji jer ce ih ciljati do iznemoglosti. Mora Redick da nadje nacin da malo digne defanzivu, Vanderbilta se potpuno odrekao a covek je ipak u stanju da nekim reakcijama zaista promeni tek utakmice i moze da se koristi u raznim varijacijama, pa cak da cuva mnogo pozicija i protivnicke najbolje igace-brzance. Terorise nas sa Vinsentom koji je covek za Evroligu, 2ppg igrac, treba ga u Zvezdu poslati (Em Nigerijac, em stalno povredjen, idealan kandidat) dogodine, baca necijih 20ak minuta, pre bih dao i Nik Smitu da igra. U Pelinku i trejdove ne verujem, eto bio je na pragu da napravi vrhunski trejd za Marka Vilijamsa koji gle cuda kida u Finiksu, i onda ga je povukao. Sa njim bi prosle godine u plejofu imali realnu sansu za WCF, tako da se ne nadam ni nekom Keonu Ellisu/Herbicu Jonesu koji bi stvano znacili. A Knelac je skoro pa ispao iz rotacije Svetle tacke su mi Ejton, Smart i naravno Rivs, a kod Hejsa moze jedan +ic za mali napredak. Ejton je pravi centar u LAL posle dugo vremena, neko ko pre svega donosi kontrolu defanzivnog skoka i prisustvo u reketu, size, nesto za cime se tragalo bezuspesno godinama i sezonama unazad. Za mene igra iznad svih ocekivanja, drugi je posle Gobera u FG% u celoj ligi, savrsen je lob threat i to obilato koristi da lako postize poene, midrange sutic iz reketa automatic, sve zavrsava oko obruca, a u odbrani vise nego pristojan i agilan. Nadigrao je ove sezone mnoge jake centre. Ono sto cega se pribojavam oko njega je foul-trouble lajkabiliti sto ga prati celu karijeru kao i Townsa, i onda je cesto primoran u vaznim trenucima da bude van terena i ima smanjenu minutazu. Hejs pokazuje sve vise neke dobre stvari i vidi se da se trudi i napreduje, al da l ce od njega biti neko ko nece praviti sranja u plejofu i moci tu da doprinese, to ostaje upitnik. Smart je jedan od malobrojnih ratnika u ovoj ekipi spreman da iskrvari kolena na max, da se baca i ide na sve nicije lopte, iznudi faul u napadu (pa i ozbiljnim floping sposobnostima), dize intezitet i tacno se vidi da uvek fali kad ne igra zbog relentless pristupa. Ovih 10ak poena sto postize su pristojni u odnosu na ono sto donosi u difensu i sveopstim prisustvom. Mislio sam da je gotov, ali pokazuje znake zivota. Vredi dati coveku svaki Gejbov minut, bilo je tu cak i nekih hrabrih i zanimljivih napadackih poteza, niga se ne plasi i voli da se takmici. Edited Tuesday at 02:33 PM by delgado 7
gggggggg Posted Tuesday at 03:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:00 PM Quote At media day, Paul was put forth as a credible voice as the franchise dealt with the fallout from a salary cap-circumvention investigation. It was precisely the type of role it seemed he'd been brought back to play. But once Paul began playing it, the Clippers seemed to recoil. When he offered suggestions to a player about training methods, he was warned not to undermine the staff, sources said. When he'd challenge players on or off the court, or tell them how to run a play, there were complaints from both players and coaches that he was abrasive. "That's how Chris is," one executive with another team said. "He wears you out. He's convinced he's right -- and he often is right, which kind of pisses you off -- and he'll go around to everyone until you agree with him." All this became even more pronounced in training camp, as Paul quickly became a standout as the leader of the second unit, which was routinely beating the starters. "We were kicking their ass," forward John Collins recently told ESPN. "Everyday we were kicking [the starters'] ass." Paul played 19 minutes a game during the preseason, averaging 8.3 points and 5.3 assists. It was a much heartier role than had been discussed in the summer. "I think that's where Ty went wrong," said one source close to the situation, "because that really empowered Chris and changed the expectations." Lue liked Paul's competitive spirit, and he played well in the time he was given. And the team needed him with Leonard, Bogdan Bogdanovic and Bradley Beal nursing injuries coming into the season. It was then, multiple sources said, that the schism began to develop. "If all they wanted was a cheerleader," the executive said, "why did they sign Chris Paul? I mean, they had him before. They knew what he was like." AFTER THE TEAM was blown out in its season opener against the Utah Jazz, sources said Paul attempted to get players to talk about the loss as they came into the locker room. It was the kind of thing Paul would routinely do on other teams. But the Clippers' locker room, full of veteran players and coaches, is not particularly active, even after wins, sources said. So Paul's attempt to encourage dialogue fell flat. A few nights later, after a win over New Orleans, Paul and his wife hosted a Halloween party for players and staffers in a club at the Intuit Dome. It was meant as a culture-building exercise, and afterward Frank and others commended Paul for doing it, despite only a handful of players attending, sources said. Then the Clippers didn't win a game for almost two weeks. Three of those losses (two against the Phoenix Suns, one against the Oklahoma City Thunder) came against teams Paul had recently played for, and at one point, sources said, he asked a member of the coaching staff why he hadn't been consulted on how those teams, and particularly their star players, Devin Booker and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, operate. The question, or perhaps its delivery, was not thought to be constructive, sources said. Paul was benched for the second half of a game in Phoenix on Nov. 6, despite both Harden and Leonard being out of the lineup that night. The next morning, Paul went to the facility early to get in a workout. The first person he encountered was Frank, and the two agreed to talk. During the meeting, sources said Paul raised concerns about the team's culture -- noting the lack of conversation in the group text chat and the lack of time the players spent together off the court. Frank, for his part, stressed that Paul's style wasn't in line with what they needed it to be -- that his leadership was being perceived as subversive rather than helpful. Later that day, Paul and Lue talked on the phone for 40 minutes. It was their final substantive conversation before Paul was sent home nearly a month later, on Dec. 2. (Every other interaction was short or via text, sources said). The call began with Paul asking Lue why he'd been benched for the second half of the Clippers' game the night before, a game in which the Clippers led by three points at the half only to lose by 13. Paul suggested having a meeting among team leaders and holding more practices on off days. Lue told Paul he was coming across as too critical of players and coaches and needed to understand -- and own up to that. A call that was meant to resolve festering issues and clarify roles ultimately did neither. Later that day, Lue informed Paul he would not be in the rotation for the next game. He did not elaborate but with the team struggling defensively -- LA's top-five defense from a season ago had struggled against younger, faster offenses -- and something had to be done to change the dynamic. The next day, Nov. 8, during the game against the Suns, tensions spread to the bench. Paul and Van Gundy somehow found themselves shoulder to shoulder on the bench. It was the first game of what would be five consecutive DNP-CDs. For a long time, neither man said a word. Eventually Paul broke the awkward silence, snarkily asking Van Gundy if he wasn't talking to him. Van Gundy scoffed in response, multiple sources who witnessed the exchange said, and questioned Paul's earnestness. The next day at the facility, Paul had another long meeting with Frank, sources said. In it, he gave Paul a "final warning" about being divisive. Paul also had another tense meeting with Van Gundy that day too, trying to resolve the previous night's exchange and other issues that had caused friction between them. Both meetings ended well enough that Paul asked and was granted permission to talk to the team. Frank also said he'd try to facilitate a meeting with Lue. On Nov. 11, an off day after a loss to the Atlanta Hawks, Paul stood in front of the team and apologized if he'd come off as too negative or divisive. WHATEVER DETENTE WAS achieved through Paul's mea culpa didn't last long. The Clippers went just 2-13 in November, continuing to lose even after Paul returned to the rotation and Leonard returned from a foot injury. During that stretch, on Nov. 22 Paul announced this would be his final year -- officially turning the rest of this season into a retirement tour. He had tried to inform team owner Steve Ballmer of his impending decision, before he announced anything, but sources said they didn't connect until afterward and that conversation ended up being their final one. The Clippers wanted to honor him with a tribute video, but Paul told them it was the wrong message to highlight in the middle of a losing streak. So on Nov. 28, before what would prove to be the third to last game of his time with the Clippers, the team released a video. The caption said Paul would "end his Hall of Fame career at home." It took less than four days for that to prove false. On Nov. 30, tensions between Paul and Van Gundy came to a head on the team's flight to Miami. Van Gundy had been upset the night before that Paul had openly questioned how the coaching staff had used Leonard's limited minutes toward the end of the team's loss to the Dallas Mavericks, their seventh in eight games. Leonard was coming off a minutes restriction and was defending a red-hot Klay Thompson, known for his movement without the ball. That took a lot of energy, Paul had argued. Van Gundy accused Paul of changing the coverage without approval. Paul responded that he had only "suggested" switching Leonard's defensive assignment because he had bumped up against his minutes restriction. To prove his point, Paul stood up and walked down the aisle of the plane to Leonard and Kris Dunn and asked them if he'd suggested a change or actually changed the coverage, multiple sources who witnessed the interaction said. Both players affirmed that he'd suggested it, sources said. The interaction was brought up again to other players on the team during the flight, and sources said that subsequently got back to the coaching staff and front office. That night, the team decided they'd finally had enough. "He was a pain in the ass when he was a great player," another executive with a different team said. "And now he's not a great player." Frank wanted to deliver the news to Paul in person, which meant he had to either tell him Monday before the team's game against the Heat or Tuesday in Atlanta. Frank chose Atlanta, but the meeting got pushed back because the team's flight was delayed out of Miami by six hours, after another loss. Around 11 p.m., inside Frank's hotel room at the Four Seasons, he told Paul of the team's plans to send Paul home, adding that he hoped to work with Paul on how the statement would be announced and that he hoped the team could still retire Paul's jersey one day, sources said. Paul was stunned, sources said, and tried to plead his case. At one point, he brought teammate Brook Lopez into the room as something of a character witness. Lopez and Leonard were Paul's most ardent supporters on the team, sources said. Paul reminded Frank that he'd asked him to facilitate another meeting with Lue and that hadn't happened. Frank acknowledged that, but held firm. The decision had been made. With that, it was over. kakav shitshow. ne zna se ko je gore ispao. verovatno clippersi ali vrlo lako se moze shvatiti i zasto ih je paul toliko vec smorio da su ga morali skloniti iz ekipe. pitam se hoce li uopste praviti trejd ili ce ga ostaviti da zavrsi karijeru kuci na kaucu. 1
Barkley#34 Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:20 PM 1 hour ago, gggggggg said: a denver vec ima 2-0 protiv houstona i vec im beze 2 pobede sto nije zanemarljivo U subotu ponovo igraju u Denveru, u 23h, po našem vremenu.
SuperTraktorko Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:04 PM 2 hours ago, gggggggg said: kakav shitshow. ne zna se ko je gore ispao. verovatno clippersi ali vrlo lako se moze shvatiti i zasto ih je paul toliko vec smorio da su ga morali skloniti iz ekipe. pitam se hoce li uopste praviti trejd ili ce ga ostaviti da zavrsi karijeru kuci na kaucu. Ne znam, meni je ovo bukvalno sami pali sami se ubili. Znali su kakav je Paul, pritom od svega izrecenog ja da sam navijac Klipersa nista ne bi njemu prigovorio. Ispada da je kriv sto ih nije na miru pustao da otaljavaju svoj posao i primaju platu. 1
gggggggg Posted Tuesday at 05:36 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:36 PM znali su kakav je ali to se ranije moglo istrpeti jer je bio plus na terenu, sada kada je raspad, malo drugacije se gleda na ono sto prica. usput sigurno nije bio izbacen zbog prvog ili drugog prigovora nego nakon pedesetog. a igrace ocigledno zabole za sezonu tako da ih je samo smarao a oni se nisu hteli iscimati i tuzili ga franku. svi izgledaju lose ovde a paul nesto manje nego ostali.
freethrow Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:12 PM 3 hours ago, gggggggg said: kakav shitshow. ne zna se ko je gore ispao. verovatno clippersi ali vrlo lako se moze shvatiti i zasto ih je paul toliko vec smorio da su ga morali skloniti iz ekipe. pitam se hoce li uopste praviti trejd ili ce ga ostaviti da zavrsi karijeru kuci na kaucu. Najobičnija ekipa govnara. Igraju da pokupe kintu na kraju meseca i da završe priču. Brate ako gubiš kao na traci ima sva prava da im jebe majku 10x dnevno. A Frenk i Lu i Van Gandi valjda kapiraju da nemaju baš neku blistavu budućnost u ligi, pa kao hajde ne smaraj daj da uzmem kintu do kraja... Odvratno i rispek za CP3. Pri tome, ponavljam, nije se niko žalio ni u Finiksu, ni u OKC, ni u Oklahomi, ni u Hjustonu. 5 1
gggggggg Posted Tuesday at 06:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:47 PM 33 minutes ago, freethrow said: Najobičnija ekipa govnara. Igraju da pokupe kintu na kraju meseca i da završe priču. Brate ako gubiš kao na traci ima sva prava da im jebe majku 10x dnevno. A Frenk i Lu i Van Gandi valjda kapiraju da nemaju baš neku blistavu budućnost u ligi, pa kao hajde ne smaraj daj da uzmem kintu do kraja... Odvratno i rispek za CP3. Pri tome, ponavljam, nije se niko žalio ni u Finiksu, ni u OKC, ni u Oklahomi, ni u Hjustonu. nije bas istina da se niko nije zalio. npr u houstonu se zalio harden pa je paul ekspresno bio trejdovan u okc za westbrooka.
Урош19 Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:24 PM Iskreno voleo bih da Denver ako je ikako moguće pokupi CP3, čisto da Marej može malo više da odmara tokom regularne sezone. U PO se ionako skraćuje rotacija pa sumnjam da bi video terena.
gggggggg Posted yesterday at 04:09 AM Posted yesterday at 04:09 AM koliko uzasna poslednja cetvrtina spursa. kolek je mozda i najbolji belac u ligi.
Jerotije Pantic Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Zanimljiv mec.Prelomila petorka JB, Kolek, Klarkson, OG i Robinson.Robinson deset ofanzivnih skokova, unistio ih je.Sparsi sa mnogo talenta, previse nadmeni za moj ukus ali svakako svjetla buducnost.
Miki28 Lakers in 5 Posted yesterday at 04:51 AM Posted yesterday at 04:51 AM Cestitke uiniju i gospodji. Naravno i ostalim navijacima Knicksa 3
Chaos Is Me Posted yesterday at 09:12 AM Posted yesterday at 09:12 AM Čak je i meni drago zbog Knicksa iako ih istorijski ne simpatišem. Želeli su ovo i lep im je boost za nastavak sezone gde ipak izgledaju kao najbolji tim istoka među svim ovim ekipama koje se ili traže ili nisu za najviše domete. Spursi poleteli previše nakon izbacivanja Thundera ali neka, i ovo je fin rezultat, liga će tek biti u problemu kad dođe Spurs sazrevanje. Sve je ovo škola.
SuperTraktorko Posted yesterday at 09:24 AM Posted yesterday at 09:24 AM 5 minutes ago, Don Dusko said: Vembi sta bi? Preminula mu baba. 1
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