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10 hours ago, ras kass said:

 

Može da se odnosi na isporuku 10 dodatnih Bajraktar dronova koja se jeste desila juče ili prekjuče. Za sada nisam naišao na vijest o drugim letjelicama, tj. o borbenim avionima.

 

EDIT: izvinjavam se, ispadoh glup u društvu, vidim sad da je Kirby rekao izričito da se radi o lovačkim avionima 👍

EDIT 2: sad Ukrajinci kažu da su dobili rezervne djelove, ali ne i avione (izvor liveUAmap)

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9 minutes ago, McLeod said:

Ako je tacna, ova informacija ima dve implikacije za mene - zort od rezervista i planira da zavrsi do 9. maja.

Ako je ova informacija tacna, a siguran sam da jeste. To mi govori da je ovo kraj hobita.Inace Dzonson insistira da se da tesko naoruzanje Ukrajincima...prosto moraju resetati njihove pozadinske linije da ovi napred ostanu bez podrske. Mozda zvuci surovo,ali to moraju biti sto jace bombe jer im je moral svakako nikakav.

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20 minutes ago, McLeod said:

Ako je tacna, ova informacija ima dve implikacije za mene - zort od rezervista i planira da zavrsi do 9. maja.

Može da planira šta god hoće, do 9. maja se ovo neće završiti, nakon ovolikih žrtava više nema prostora za politički dogovor. Nema Ukrajinca koji će potpisati dil - makar i privremeni - koji Mariupolj i Donbas ostavljaju pod ruskom vlašću. 

Sve više sam ubijeđen da će projekat ruskog Donbasa da završi kao Republika Srpska Krajina.

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Russia has handed over to Ukraine a draft document with clear language and is awaiting a response. This was stated by the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.

"The President said that the Ukrainian side is constantly deviating from previously given agreements, deviating from its words. This has very bad consequences in terms of the effectiveness of negotiations. At present, our draft document has been handed over to the Ukrainian side, which includes absolutely clear formulations worked out. The ball is on their side, we are waiting for an answer," he said.
He also noted that the response time depends on Kyiv. "We have repeatedly said that the dynamics of the work of the Ukrainian side leaves much to be desired, therefore, the Ukrainians do not show a great inclination to intensify the negotiation process," Peskov said.
Commenting on the statement by Israeli Ambassador to Moscow Alexander Ben Zvi about Jerusalem's readiness to accept a possible meeting between Putin and Zelensky, the Kremlin spokesman noted that the Israeli side "is not the first time it has signaled its readiness to accept such a meeting."
"And we have already explained many, many times what should be the forerunner of such a hypothetical meeting," Peskov answered the question of whether this topic was discussed between Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett.


https://tass.ru/politika/14422921 (prevod: Deepl)

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6 minutes ago, AgroLaki said:

Mogu da se preispituju koliko hoce, ako nema nikog da mu krne metak u celo, dzaba im/nam sve. Iskreno se nadam da ako ne daj boze dodje do momenta da ljakse hoce da pali nuklearke da ce neko da ga overi. 

 

Ako nas je istorija nečemu naučila to je da, kada u Rusiji neko krne vlastodršcu metak u čelo, na vlast u Rusiji dođe neko još gori.

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7 minutes ago, Stiletto said:

 

Ako nas je istorija nečemu naučila to je da, kada u Rusiji neko krne vlastodršcu metak u čelo, na vlast u Rusiji dođe neko još gori.

 

Upravo tako, i ja se bojim da on ima sledbenike koji bi bili spremni da nastave ono sto on radi. 

 

 

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Inace u Khersonu je ubijen i proruski bloger. Sad tu je stanovnistvo protiv Rusa i ocigledno ima unutrasnjeg solidnog otpora,a odatle i gadjaju Mikoalev. Onaj ''ruski'' aerodrom su gadjali jedno 20put do sad i uvek je imao neke helikoptere i kmione u njemu, skoro pa neverovtno.

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Ukraine has received new airplanes after weeks of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky making appeals to friendly nations, Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby confirmed during a press briefing on Tuesday. 

"They [Ukraine] have received additional aircraft and aircraft parts to help them get more aircraft in the air," said Kirby.

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47 minutes ago, Mama_mia said:

 

Ukraine has received new airplanes after weeks of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky making appeals to friendly nations, Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby confirmed during a press briefing on Tuesday. 

"They [Ukraine] have received additional aircraft and aircraft parts to help them get more aircraft in the air," said Kirby.

 

Oružane Snage Ukrajine na svom FB profilu bejzikali kažu da je Kirby slagao za avione

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Njemacka obustavlja uvoz nafte iz Rusije - 50% do ljeta - u potpunosti do kraja godine!

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61164894

 

Valjda su i Nijemci skontali da im se vise isplati da skuplje placaju naftu (i nadam se uskoro gas) i privremeno obustave ekonomski rast, nego da cekaju da Rusi nakon razaranje Ukrajine nastave na zapad... Ipak je bolje obuci svoj  dzemper u svojoj kuci nego se umotavati u cebe iz humanitarne pomoci u nekom sklonistu ili cekati da ti Rus udijeli cebe u nekom zarobljenickom zatvoru ili logoru.

 

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