VN Emilia-Romanje 2021, Imola

[Alek The Great]

Bice bzv ako Kimi dobije kaznu, a npr Hamilton za ono nije bio ni notiran. Ferari uze vise poena od McL, iako imaju losiji bolid. Bude li Riki ovako i ubuduce vozio tesko ce njegov tim do treceg mesta. Ali Noris odlicno vozio, bas me iznenadio jer sam ocekivao da ove crvene gume posustanu. Sta reci za Pereza! I Sainz je puno gresio pa na kraju 5-i. Sve u svemu solidna trka.

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[DASUBO]

Čestitke Maksu, odvezao je skoro savršenu trku.

Luis je zaradio platu danas, uprkos onoj glupoj grešci.

I dalje mislim da je trebalo da popije kaznu za svoju rikverc vožnju.

Lando sa pravom vozač dana. Vrhunska vožnja.

Ferari solidan, u domenu performansi bolida.

Minardi loš, Cunoda zreo za terapiju kod psihoterapeuta. Mnogo mi je vrela krv.

Strol solidan, Vetel...jbg...

Alpina jedva u bodovima, Okon ipak bolji od matorog.

Luzeri dana:

1. Rasel

 

10. Botas

11. Perez

[Jamesdin]

Zanimljiva trka. Ne znam zasto Luis nije kaznjen? Vet i Alo se samo brukaju, ko Rosi u Moto GP. 

Kako sam video, Honda ima malo slabiji motor od Merc-a, a Ferari je najslabiji. Sta ti ljudi rade, mislim da ni oni ne znaju!

Reno je katastrofa!

[DASUBO]

Za 38 godina gledanja F1 još uvek nisam video da je neki vozač lupio po kacigi vozača koji sedi u slupanom bolidu.

Naravno da mu Botas nije uputio ljubazne reči kad je Rasel došao do njega da mu kenja.

Pogotovo što je Rasel taj kome se "otkinuo" bolid i koji se zabio u Botasa.

Dečak, tako se ne dobija ugovor sa Mercedesom.

[Radoye]

27 minutes ago, DASUBO said:

Za 38 godina gledanja F1 još uvek nisam video da je neki vozač lupio po kacigi vozača koji sedi u slupanom bolidu.

 

 

[alberto.ascari]

 

 

 

Dobra trka, čestitke Maxu za izvrsnu vožnju. Lewis je preživeo zahvaljujući red flag, a veliki šampion ne pravi dve greške u jednom danu. Sve ispod P2 je bilo posle restarta izvan očekivanja. Norris delje Riciarda, klinac je šampionski materijal. Ferrari, ja sam prezadovoljan, gde smo bili prošle godine, ovo je više nego izvrsno. Iako sam mnogo sumnjao u Sainza, a sad sumnjam možda malo manje, danas izvrstan, s obzirom da je bio 4 puta u šljunku u prvoj polovini trke. 

 

Mazepin nije bio kriv za udes, a kod Bottasa bih rekao obrnuto, levo je imao mesto za bolid i po a ipak je izlazio desno da brani ulazak u krivinu koja je još daleko, sve u brzini 300 km/h i na vodi, dovoljno je iskusan da tu situaciju reši drugačije.

 

Kod veterana, Kime je kralj, Vettel se bruka a Alonso možda nije morao da se vraća.

 

Perez je ipak precenjen pilot, neće to biti jednostavno za njega u RBR. Bar će biti interesantnija borba kod konstruktora, MGP i RBR imaju po jednog i po pilota.

 

Čeka nas dobra sezona.

[DASUBO]

46 minutes ago, Radoye said:

 

Radoje, Hunt se tukao van bolida, koliko znam nikad nije udario čoveka koji sedi u slupanom autu.

Ili grešim?

[Alen13ASC]

3 hours ago, greenenvy said:

Op, je l' se ovo videlo da mu Bottas pokazao srednji prst? Ako jeste, bice ribanja posle trke. 

 

Ako sam dobro iščitao na više izvora ovako je to išlo; Rasel prilazi Botasu koji je jako uzdrman i izderava se na njega rečima citiram "jesi li ti to nas pokušao ubiti!?", Botas mu pokazuje srednji prst, Rasel ga lupa po kacigi a Alonso u pozadini radi piruetu XD.

 

Inače uživao sam u današnjoj trci, ovaj udes je bio nepotreban i stvarno vrlo opasan. Bez oreola Rasel bi se glat nasadio Botasu na kacigu, a finac je imao sreće da ugao udesa ga nije poslao u vazduh a la Alonso u Australiji 2016.

 

Maksu čestitke, Norisu također. Luis je mogao baš loše da prođe, zamalo je pokupio Rasela koji se pristojno sklonio.

 

Moj Alonso opet  neka osrednja trka, očekivao sam to nakon njegovih reči od juče da još uvek ne može da se stopi s Alpinom i da na ovako zahtevno trkaćoj stazi takvi problemi te šalju na dno proseka. Kad se bude konačno "spojio" s bolidom onda će magija proraditi. Ja ne verujem u one priče da je ovo Fetel/Rosi period za Alonsa. Ipak on se trkao u mnogo serija u poslednje dve godine i bukvalno se non stop prilagođavao drukčijim bolidima a to je baš zahtevno. I onda dođe u F1 koja je najbrža ikad u osrednjem bolidu, sačekajmo malo...

[Romantik]

Kako je ovo mogla biti savršena trka da nije bilo udesa Botasa i Rasela. To je bio momenta kad su se sve kockice posložile, a onda se sve resetuje zbog udesa, to Luisa vraća u život, a istovremeno stavlja Pereza, Maxa i Norisa pod pritisak, Red Bulovci ga nisu izdržali, ali je Max imao sreće da se izvukao iz one piruete, i onda trka još nije ni nastavljena  a Luis već dobija poziciju i najavljuje da će ići na podijum, dakle 30 krugova pakla, umesto da smo imali 30 krugova uživanja.

 

Od Renoa nisam očekivao mnogo, ali svakako ne i da nazaduju iz trke u trku, baš se brukaju.

[Hertzog]

Kimi 30sec kazne. Sprdnja je FIA

[Radoye]

2 hours ago, DASUBO said:

Radoje, Hunt se tukao van bolida, koliko znam nikad nije udario čoveka koji sedi u slupanom autu.

Ili grešim?

 

Imao je par ispada u F3 kad se potukao nakon udesa sa drugim vozacima, jednom prilikom je krenuo da puni lika pesnicama u facu (otvorena kaciga u ono vreme, bez vizira) dok je ovaj jos sedeo u bolidu. Kasnije u F1 se uglavnom tukao samo sa redarima oko staze.

On mi prvi pada na pamet onako na prvu loptu, ali siguran sam da sam video jos toga (Indi?). Mislim, nije nesto sto licno opravdavam samo kazem.

[DASUBO]

Nisam ovo znao za Hunt-a u F3.

U svakom slučaju, grozno ponašanje. Razumem i vrelu krv i adrenalin, al' bar sačekaj da čovek izađe iz bolida čitav, pa se onda ponašaj k'o seljak na vašaru, a ne ovako...

[lemiwilli]

Cestitke Maxu, odlicna trka, fenomenalan start sa mudima do kolena. 

Luis, nekako mi ne ide da kazem stari lisac ali brate, kako je samo polako pustao kvacilo u rikverc da nebi ostao u sljunku. A onda posle restarta vožnja za anale. 

Mali Noris, svaka cast, odlicna trka, i pre svega dobra borba sa Luisom a iako  je ovaj bio brzi. Meklaren fenomenalna strategija sa mekim gumama. 

Kao sto neko rece za Ferari da je penosavo vino..., samo bih dodao..., katastrofa. Da se tako jos malo pa sklanjas Mercedesu i Luisu..., pa brate gde su vam testitisi, piju expreso jel da? 

Ostali mnogo grešaka ali dobro je niko nije poginuo. 

Sto se tice udesa Botasa i Rasela..., mislim da je trkacki incident, velika brzina, adrenalin... 

A sto se tice udaranja, meni ono lici ko drugarska cuska, jer da je hteo da ga zavali lupio bi ga punom zdesna a ne onako. 

Ovde pricate kao da ga je Rasel hteo nokautirati. Ne bih se slozio. 

P. S. Mozda uvesti obaveznih 10 krugova po vlaznoj stazi tj.da se staza naprska vodom, vestacki..., to bi bilo ludilo. 

Edited April 18, 2021 by lemiwilli

[Radoye]

Kimi kaznjen, Alonso u bodovima

[Radoye]

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Lance Stroll and Kimi Raikkonen have both been handed post-race penalties that have changed the points-paying positions in the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix.

 

On Lap 11, Stroll tried to overtake Pierre Gasly around the outside of Turn 2 but ran wide in wet conditions, cutting the chicane. The Aston Martin driver did not give the position back, and the stewards investigated after the race and found that Stroll left the track and gained an advantage that warranted a 5-second time penalty.

 

“In hearing from the drivers the stewards accepted that car 18 (Stroll) was ahead of car 10 (Gasly) at the point he left the track, but that he was in that position because of a maneuver that he was not able to complete on the track given the wet conditions,” the decision read.

 

The penalty has a direct impact on both drivers as they swap positions in the final classification, with Gasly promoted to seventh place and Stroll dropping one spot to eighth.

Raikkonen had originally crossed the line ninth for Alfa Romeo, but was under investigation for a safety car infringement. The Finn spun on the final lap before a race restart after the red flag period, and duly lost positions. As it was a race restart he was permitted to regain those places, but with the safety car lights having gone out, a contradictory regulation states no car can overtake.

 

With conflicting regulations at play, Alfa Romeo opted to tell Raikkonen to not pass any cars “fearing that this would create a safety issue in the wet conditions,” but at that point it contravened a separate regulation that means drivers who are out of position at the first safety car line before a restart must enter the pit lane.

 

The stewards admitted there are a number of confusing rules in this instance but said that as Raikkonen didn’t enter the pit lane, they are forced to apply a mandatory 10-second stop-and-go penalty, that is converted into a 30s time penalty post-race.

 

“The stewards consider it to be a further contradiction that when the cars are behind the safety car during a safety car period, the are prohibited from passing, but when they are behind the safety car for a restart, they are permitted to — even though the reasons for a rolling start are that the track conditions don’t permit a standing start.

 

“However, the rule requiring a car to enter the pit lane if it fails to regain its position is consistent amongst several championships, has been in the FIA Formula 1 Sporting Regulations for several years and has been consistently applied.

 

“The penalty is a mandatory penalty, and therefore the stewards consider that they have no alternative than to apply this penalty for reasons of consistency.”

 

The penalty drops Raikkonen out of the points, promoting the Alpine pair of Esteban Ocon and Fernando Alonso to P9 and P10 respectively.

 

[Radoye]

Rasel kaze da Botas ne bi onako branio poziciju protiv drugih vozaca, nego se plasi za svoje mesto u Mercedesu:

 

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George Russell says Valtteri Bottas used a questionable defensive tactic that led to their huge crash in the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix and asked the Finn if he was trying to kill them both.

 

“I was coming on Valtteri massively fast,” Russell told Sky Sports. “I had the slipsteam, I had the DRS; just as I pulled out he jolted very, very slightly to the right, which is a tactical defense that drivers of the past used to do. The sort of Verstappen move of 2015 — there’s a gentleman’s agreement that that is not what you do because it’s incredibly dangerous.

 

“In completely dry conditions I would have been fine but it just put me onto the wet patch and I lost it. An unfortunate incident but we are going at 200mph — you need to respect the speed and the conditions. One of those things.

 

“I asked him if he was trying to kill us both. We’re going incredibly fast, we know the conditions… in his eyes he’s not really fighting for anything — a P9 for him is nothing, but for us it’s everything. I’m going for absolutely everything, the move would have been absolutely easy. There was absolutely no reason to jolt like that. It’s a gentleman’s agreement between the drivers because we’ve always said it will cause a massive collision one day and here we are.”

 

While Russell says he’ll speak to Bottas at a later time once they’ve both cooled off, he also suggested the Finn — who Russell is seen as a threat to for a future Mercedes seat — would not have defended in the same way had he been racing a different driver.

 

“We’re both grown men, we’ll have a conversation and talk about it, let the heat die down a bit. I’m sure he’s upset and frustrated with me as I am with him. The faintest of movements when you’re traveling at 200mph is actually quite a massive thing. It’s not just the speed, it’s the speed difference, I was probably doing 30mph quicker than him and about to overtake him. Perhaps if it was another driver he wouldn’t have done that.”

 

 

Botas mu odgovara da ne siri teorije zavere:
 

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Valtteri Bottas refuted George Russell’s comments and blamed the Williams driver for their heavy crash in the Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, while the stewards chose to take no further action over the incident.

 

“Erm… Sorry, I lost my aluminum foil hat somewhere,” Bottas said. “It’s quite a theory…

 

“I’m always going to defend to any driver — I’m not keen to lose any positions. That was normal defending. It could have been a lot more aggressive if needed. I don’t agree with any of that at all. I was doing my thing. No matter who I would have been defending, it it would have been exactly the same.

 

“Obviously he knew exactly that it was going to be damp there, because we have gone there lap after lap. I knew as well, and it was just not a place to go in those conditions on slicks. But he still went there. It was his choice to go there; I was doing my job trying to defend, and I’m not going to move away and give him the dry patch back. That’s how it goes.”

 

While Russell angrily approached the Mercedes cockpit after the collision, Bottas says he was unaware what he was being accused of at the time.

 

“I couldn’t hear what he was saying. Obviously I had my helmet on, and not sure (if) the engine was running. I couldn’t hear a thing. So that’s that.

 

“From my side, it was quite straightforward: I was obviously defending my position. I think he had stopped two laps earlier, so he got his tires warm already, and I was struggling with the warm-up. I knew in that place it’s quite tricky to overtake, so obviously try to make sure that I don’t make space for him, but also sure that I leave at least one car’s width of space by the regulations.

 

“He went for it and obviously lost it and hit me, and it was game over. Yeah, I actually just now spoke with Toto (Wolff, team principal). He said he’s going to probably speak with him at some point as well, but that’s that. We went to the stewards together, and it was just really overall a review of the thing, and they wanted to hear comments from both me and George.”

 

No further action was taken with the stewards calling it a racing incident and stating that Bottas maintained his line and “at no time did either car maneuver erratically.”

[Nicklord]

Rasel baš ispao malo derište ovde 😄 Botas nije WDC kvalitet ali prljav vozač nije nikako, ne sećam se jednom da je uradio nešto prljavo 

[Drago]

Jedno udaranje po kacigi dok je vozač još kokpitu.

 

https://youtu.be/WvFz92mRh04

 

Raselovu izjavu mogu da protumačim "Da je ispred mene bio neki drugi vozač, a ne direktni rival za mesto u Mercedesu bio bih strpljiviji". 

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Drago

[Nicklord]

Inače jako zanimljivo kako je bukvalno svaki novajlija u timu grešio po kiši mnogo više nego starosedoci. Perez, Sainc, Rikardo, Alonso, obojica u Hasu, Cunoda, Fetel... Očigledno (topla voda 😄 ) se formula i njen osećaj nije promenio mnogo od prošle godine i imaju prednost vozači koji nisu menjali timove

Edited April 19, 2021 by Nicklord

[L0shMi]

Isto deluje da vozači koji prešli na meckine agregate imaju problema da ih ukrote XD

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[DASUBO]

7 hours ago, Drago said:

Jedno udaranje po kacigi dok je vozač još kokpitu.

 

https://youtu.be/WvFz92mRh04

 

Raselovu izjavu mogu da protumačim "Da je ispred mene bio neki drugi vozač, a ne direktni rival za mesto u Mercedesu bio bih strpljiviji". 

 

Ok, ali ovde ni Sato ni Šumaher nisu bili u nekoj životnoj opasnosti.

Juče je bilo drugačije, ozbiljna brzina je ozbiljno polupala oba auta i da oreol ponovo nije radio svoj posao bilo bi tu sto jada.

Meni je Raselov potez odvratan samo zbog toga što nije sačekao da Botas ustane iz auta posle onakvog udesa.

Baš mi se smučio juče.

[Drago]

I ja mislim da je njegov potez čobanski ali je dobro videti povremeno da vozači nisu korporativni roboti bez emocija koji deklamuju unapred napisan tekst za PR (eh ironije liberalnog kapitalizma koji je navodno slobodouman). Udario ga je adrenalin u glavu, malo zbog šoka od udesa, a mnogo više jer mu je doku*čilo da kruži već treću godinu u beznadežnom Vilijamsu. Još ako znamo da se skucao sa čovekom koji mu je glavni rival za mesto u Merc usijanje u njegovoj glavi je još jače.

[Radoye]

1 hour ago, DASUBO said:

Ok, ali ovde ni Sato ni Šumaher nisu bili u nekoj životnoj opasnosti.

Juče je bilo drugačije, ozbiljna brzina je ozbiljno polupala oba auta i da oreol ponovo nije radio svoj posao bilo bi tu sto jada.

Meni je Raselov potez odvratan samo zbog toga što nije sačekao da Botas ustane iz auta posle onakvog udesa.

Baš mi se smučio juče.

 

Dobro de, da je Botas bio ozbiljnije povredjen sigurno mu ne bi pokazivao srednjaka. Prakticno je time stavio do znanja da je OK isto kao i da je ustao.

[Ханибалија]

Kad smo već kod robota koji deklamuju unaprijed napisan tekst :

[alberto.ascari]

Pa šta si drugo čekao, to pišu PR experti koji nisu mnogo lošije plaćeni od Russella.

Da da izjavu da je eshoul i madafaka?

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