Angelia

Pa tebi su se sanse poboljsale danas, ali su i dalje mizerne U svakom slucaju bolje nego moje....

Jadne serpe....

I ja se to pitam sve vreme dok objavljuju sta sve pokusavaju. Racunam da znaju nesto o virusu sto mi ne znamo, od kako su mu provalili kod. A drugo verovatno da iz predthodnih iskustava znaju odlike corona virusa pa pokusavaju stvari koje su vec predpostavljene.

Ma dzaba se nadam za sada, tu cisto sumnjam da ima nesto do juna, a i tu sam optimista. Neki kazu tek jul...

Postavila ja ono na ekonomiji, ali ipak se tice USA, otvaranje ekonomije: Montana: From May 4 Tennessee: From April 27 Colorado: From April 27 Alaska: From April 24 Georgia: From April 24 Oklahoma: From April 24 South Carolina: From April 20 Texas: From April 20 Minnesota: From April 27 Mississippi: From April 27 Sad kad otvore prodavnice, salone i slicno (bioskope ja ne bi bas sad i restorane, osim ako ne mogu da obezbede uslove), videcemo da li ce biti losih posledica.

Ja racunam ako mi otvore frizere i kozmeticare, i medjunarodne letove....ja sam komotna Ah da i izgradnju, moram da opravim nesto na krovu, a i renoviranje bi mi lepo leglo dok imam vremena.

Za Austriju i Dansku znam od ranije, pa nisam smatrala da ima smisla da se pominje. Za Cesku je ovo sad znacajni pomak. Hrvatska - nisam znala, sta su oni popustili? Evo i nasih ko je poceo da otvara ekonomiju, ne racunam tu onih 7-8 koji nisu imali stay-at-home ali su ipak neke biznise zatvorili i limitirali okupljanja: Montana: From May 4 Tennessee: From April 27 Colorado: From April 27 Alaska: From April 24 Georgia: From April 24 Oklahoma: From April 24 South Carolina: From April 20 Texas: From April 20 Minnesota: From April 27 Mississippi: From April 27 Kod mene stay-at-home istice sad 30og, i nadam se da nece da slede NY sa produzetkom, ne vidim potrebu za tako necim, moze da se popusti.

Zemlje koje popustaju mere: Svajcarska - otvaraju se frizerski saloni, zubari i slicne usluge. Bolnice mogu da pocnu da rade operacije koje nisu hitne. Ostalo se ceka da vide kako ce ovo proci Norveska - otvorili osnovne skole, frizere, dermatologe .... Nemacka - jos prosle nedelje, preporucuju maske Ceska - otvara univerzitete danas, i putovanja Ostali su uglavnom dali plan za otvaranje sledece nedelje.

Aj sad svi u apoteke za Pepsid Salim se naravno, nemoj da me neko ozbiljno shvatio Over the past few weeks researchers have been discreetly studying a new potential treatment for COVID-19 -- and it might not be what you expect. The treatment in question is called famotidine, and it's the active ingredient in Pepcid, an over-the-counter medication commonly used to alleviate heartburn. Since March 13, researchers at Northwell Health, a network of hospitals in New York, have been enrolling patients hospitalized with COVID-19 into their study of famotidine, which is being delivered through an IV in megadoses nine times greater than the typical over-the-counter dose. The drug is being given in combination with the much-touted antimalarial hydroxychloroquine. Researchers said some data on safety will be available "in a few weeks," but did not say when data will be available showing whether the drug combination is effective. https://news.yahoo.com/popular-heartburn-medicine-being-studied-treatment-coronavirus-024500582.html

E bas ti hvala, ovaj moj vise trosi na on line gaming nego sto je trosio kad je bio slobodan. Free my son! Da ide malo iz kuce, i da ne trosi pare na gluposti...a i prazna gajba nije na odmet

Colorado, Mississippi, Minnesota, Montana and Tennessee will join other states beginning an experiment to reopen economies without the testing and contact-tracing infrastructure health experts say is needed to prevent a resurgence of infections. Georgia, Oklahoma, Alaska and South Carolina have already taken steps to restart their economies following a month of government-ordered lockdowns. ....... Tennessee said it will allow restaurants to reopen on Monday. Mississippi's stay-at-home order expires the same day. Montana, which reported three new cases on Sunday, is allowing businesses to reopen Monday if they limit capacity and practice social distancing. Minnesota will let some businesses restart on Monday, allowing 80,000 to 100,000 people in the industrial, manufacturing and office jobs to go back to work. In Colorado, Democratic Governor Jared Polis has given the green light for retail curbside pickup to begin on Monday. Hair salons, barbershop and tattoo parlors can open on Friday, with retail stores, restaurants and movie theaters to follow. Dzordzija je takodje navela restorane i bioskope, i te drzave koje su malo agresivne cemo pratiti kako idu. iako i one koje nikad nisu uvele stay-at-home nisu u stvari lose prosle, verovatno sto i nemaju visoku gustinu populacije.

Nisam bila sigurna da li su oni pobrkali pa se zezas ili si napravio typo. Uobicajeno je ventilator u medicini, retko ko koristi respirator. Postoji medicinski uredjaj koji se zove aspirator (mislim pored onog za sporet koji i meni ide po zivcima ) ali on ne sluzi kao "vestacka pluca" (taj izraz sam isto cula) tj nije za disanje, nego za isisavanje tecnosti (obicno pri operacijama). Nadam se da nisu kupili aspiratore

Khm, khm....ako je nabavio aspiratore - gadno se zajebo izvini nisam mogla da odolim znam da je lako napraviti gresku, posto se doticni uredjaj naziva ili respirator ili ventilator - aspirator ne pomaze bas kod corone.

Opet interpretacija? Samo sam te podsetila da koristis isto opravdanje koje je korisceno za Trampa, a koje si prethodno osudjivala. A sto se tice te izjave o skretanju teme sa trenutno bitnih stvari na nebitne....hmmmm karikiranje Trampovih brifinga je bitno, a licemerje medija u tretiranju optuzbi za sexualno uznemiravanje, i polticki bias, nebitno. Da slucajno ne primetimo da je i karikiranje, izaslo od tih istih medija ... a veci broj onih koji diskutuju ovde koriste te iste medije kao relevantan izvor kritike administracije.

Karikiranje je jedno, tvrditi da je to cinjenica je drugo, pogotovo kad neko kaze da to nije tacno, a onda svi grupno "ti branis Trampa". Ima transkript sta je tacno rekao, a ko ne zna da cita moze da im se pojasni. Koliko ljudi je u stvari progutalo pricu da je on monstrum koji je preporucio da ljudi piju, ili se bodu, dezinfekcionim sredstvima, i da se bljesnu UV lampom bi bilo komicno, da nije u stvari tragicno, kako ako dovoljno puta ponovis nesto to se tretira kao cinjenica, cak i kad ti oci i usi govore drugo.

To rekose onomad za Trampa, samo da te podsetim. A za vesti se ne slazem s tobom. kako ja vidim mediji su postali propagandne masine, samo je pitanje sta je tvoj otrov...

Inace, interesatno je ko je u stvari razumeo da je Tramp rekao da se popije Clorox i lysol, i nabije UV lampa u dupe..... Procitaj naslove i interpretacije ovde, ja se jako brinem za IQ tih ljudi. Uticaj medija, i njihovih interpretacija, je zastrasujuc.

Ovde se i ne radi o stopiranju izolacije, ili zarazi na javnim mestima. Nego o ukidanju nerazumnih mera, koje nisu imale nikakav uticaj na samo-izolaciju. Znaci ako hoces da diskutujes konkretnu stvar bar se informisi o cemu pricam. Vidi Zoki mene stvarno ne interesuje ko podrzava Trampa ili ne. Ocena kako je US odgovorila na ovu situaciju ce ostati da se analizira kad se vide posledice i uzroci, a najvise na izborima kako predsednickim, tako i lokalnim. Ali nemoj da se pravimo da je Tramp rekao nesto sto nije: "So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful." Znaci, nijednog trenutka nije rekao da je to tretman, niti da to treba uraditi, nego da bi bilo interesatno testirati takve opcije. I sve je formulisano kao pitanje expertima. Glupo pitanje, slazem se - ali nijednog trenutka nije rekao "gutanje dezinfekcionog sredstva leci koronu". Znaci tu se svaka rasprava resava. Ako ja kazem nekom fizicaru, da bi bilo interesatno da kad bi imali krila, i da predpostavimo da to radi, ljudi mogu da lete, i da bi bilo interesatno da strucnjaci to testiraju, nisam strucnjak, samo mislim da je koncept interesantan.... Onda sam lupila glupost, ali nisam nikom rekla da skoci sa zgrade da proveri teoriju. Mislim dokle vise ove tvrdnje kako branim Trampa, jbte meni nije jasno kako neko moze da bude toliko ostrascen da ne vidi prostu cinjenicu. BTW I kakve to veze ima sa Bidenovim slucajem? Kako je pominjanje cistog, jasnog biasa medija koji su tvrdili da zenama treba verovati, cak i kad nema dokaza - sada odbrana Trampa? Mislim ajde da mi objasnis tu logiku, ili ne smem nista drugo da pominjem osim da zapevam kako je Tramp monstrum, ubica, unistava Ameriku....

To je tvoja pozicija i ok je. Nemam sta da branim Trampa, nije umesan. Medjutim posto cemo pre ili kasnije da imamo predsednicke izbore, smatram ovo itekako bitnim - a o tome se diskutovalo na ovoj temi. Izuzetno bias pozicija medija.

Interesantan podatak za Filadelfiju, nije bas vezano za ovo ali moze da pokaze kako brojke idu u klasterima: The Department of Public Health confirmed six additional fatalities in Philadelphia. This brings the number of residents who have succumbed to the virus in Philadelphia to 472. Of the 472 total deaths, 252 (53%) were long-term care facility residents.

pa ja i nisam ocenjivala sta je tacno, nego kako se tretira u odredjenim medijima. Lepo zena pitala, sta da sam optuzila Trampa? eto zapitaj se, kako ti ovde bitno da je on vec bio Senator, a nije ti bilo bitno da je ono bila prica sa koledza, koja nema nikakve veze sa odraslom osobom. Ali ajde, nije da sam ocekivala da se licemerje prizna.

Protest u Micigenu ipak doneo neke rezultate: The new order, Whitmer said, eases those restrictions. It allows in-state travel, motor boating and golfing, but golf carts cannot be used. "While it's understandable to be lured by the phenomenal beauty of this great state and hit the road, we know that our rural hospitals are not equipped to meet an influx of people who may bring or spread the virus," Whitmer said, urging residents to continue to follow social distancing rules. Big-box retailers no longer have to close off garden centers and areas dedicated to selling carpeting, flooring, furniture, garden centers, plant nurseries or paint. Landscapers, lawn-service companies, plant nurseries, and bike repair shops can also resume operating, but all are subject to social distancing rules. The order also allows stores selling non-essential items to reopen, but only using curbside pickup and delivery. Whitmer also said that people are now required to wear face coverings in enclosed public spaces, such as grocery stores. Employers must also provide non-medical grade masks to their in-person employees. She asked the public to use cloth face coverings and reserve medical-grade masks for health care workers.

Interesatna ideja, i kontra argumenti: That process could get a push from the Israeli study, which surfaced this week on MedRxiv, a website where researchers share their preliminary work. Matthew Liao, who directs the Center for Bioethics at New York University, said the impulse to find a shortcut out of the pandemic is entirely reasonable. “But it’s a bad idea,” he said of the Israeli proposal. To embrace such a strategy as a way to lessen the population’s economic suffering “is a bit of a false dilemma,” he said. Beside risking lives to engage in a population-wide medical experiment, “there are a lot of other ways to reduce the economic impact” of a prolonged campaign of social distancing, he said. In an actual controlled avalanche, safety experts engineer the periodic release of a mountainside’s buildup of snow to keep the valley below from becoming entombed. In the coronavirus version, the Israeli researchers propose to recruit waves of healthy volunteers in their 20s, 30s and 40s who are willing to be deliberately infected. In numbers that never exceed Israel’s healthcare capacity, the volunteers would weather any symptoms, recover, and rejoin a growing population of immune compatriots. The rest of the country would remain locked down. If 80% of eligible Israelis sign up to be infected, virtually all of these “controlled avalanche” graduates would join the ranks of those who recovered from unintentional infections, the authors calculate. Applying age-specific death rates tallied in Wuhan, China, to Israel's population, the team estimated that 2,540 of those volunteers would die from COVID-19. But within roughly 200 days, they say, somewhere between 40% and 71% of Israel’s population of 8.9 million would gain immunity from the virus the old-fashioned way. At that point, the coronavirus would run up against so many immune Israelis that its spread would virtually stop. This collective state of herd immunity would protect those, including the old and vulnerable, who had stayed at home as the controlled avalanches tumbled down outside. Compared to a strategy in which all Israelis are urged to stay inside and practice social distancing, the controlled avalanche strategy would reduce overall deaths by 43%, the researchers calculate. The benefits of herd immunity after the lockdown ends would save the lives of Israelis who are more vulnerable to the virus. And that point would come faster, cutting deaths further. Cumulatively, implementing a controlled avalanche strategy would drive down the maximum number of people who need intensive hospital care by 62%, the study authors said. And half of the people at low risk of becoming ill could leave their homes and go back to work two months earlier. “Implementation of the controlled avalanche policy is thus the safest among all the possible options,” the authors conclude. Johns Hopkins University bioethicist Jeffrey Kahn said the new research is problematic because it relies on facts about the virus’ behavior and impact that are still in dispute. The idea that those between 20 and 49 would die of COVID-19 in such small numbers has been countered by later studies and by many case reports, Kahn said. So has the belief that reinfection doesn’t happen after a person has recovered. One study released this week suggested that as many as 30% of those who have recovered produce very low levels of protective antibodies, and in 10% of cases the levels were too low to be detectable, calling their immunity into question. The World Health Organization went further in a scientific brief released Friday. Pushing back against proposals by some countries to issue "immunity passports" to those who have recovered, the WHO warned that even people with coronavirus antibodies may be vulnerable to a second infection. Researchers are a long way from having the data in hand to pinpoint the level of population immunity necessary for the pandemic to fizzle, Kahn added. https://news.yahoo.com/could-controlled-avalanche-stop-coronavirus-212135278.html

Jesam, da nema dokaza, i ovde kazem da nema dokaza. Ja upravo ukazujem na licemerje medija koje je u tom slucaju napravilo cirkus - a ovde cuti. Znaci uopste nisam rekla da je ovo istinito, ustvari je veoma slicno, osim tog videa koji ne dokazuje mnogo. Interesatno kako pokusavas da izvrces moje reci

Ja se pozivam na ono sto je Tramp rekao na toj konferenciji, znaci samo cinjenice a ne interpretacije koje neki ovde prave. Da bi nekog nazivao monstrumom, taj mora da smisli ozbiljno sranje, pokusa da pocini ozbiljan zlocin. To preterivanje je upravo zasto moje racionalno gledanje na cinjenice deluje kao odbrana, a ne zato sto to stvarno jeste. Pitanja jesu bila glupa, i nije im bilo mesto na toj KZS, ali ni u kom slucaju nije bilo pozivanje na ubrizgavanje cloroxa ili guranje UV lampe tamo gde joj mesto nije. Inace, na totalno drugaciju temu: licemerje levih medija koje se pokazuje.....u tretiranju ove prijave za sexual harassment za Bidena je neverovatno. Ne da ova zena ima znacajno dokaza za svoju tvrdnju, osim tog snimka telefonskog poziva u Larry King emisiji devedeset i neke, ali postavlja stvarno interesatno pitanje: "I guess my question is, if this were Donald Trump, would they treat it the same way? If this were Brett Kavanaugh, did they treat it the same way?" she continued. "In other words, it's politics and political agenda playing a role in objective reporting and asking the question." https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lost-total-respect-biden-sexual-assault-accuser-blasts-anderson-cooper-for-not-asking-about-allegations