
Angelia
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Ne, ne i ne. Ti nisi oglasna tabla, ali kad kazes nesto na ovoj temi kao neko ko je u USA imas odgovornost da to barem bude relativno tacno jer inace dovodis one koje nemaju pojma o USA sistemu, u zabludu. Ne, ne pitaju svi, kao sto ti nisi dovela u pitanje pisanje medija da je to glupost, da bi sad otkrila da je to uglavnom tacno. I ne, Tramp se uopste nije ispalio, nema potrebe da zna da li Florida to tretira kao mail-in ili ne, on funkcionise na federalno nivou, i tu je u pravu. Ti nikako da skontas da ja ne branim Trampa, nego da se borim protiv ludila TDSa. Nije sve sto on kaze glupost, u stvari nije ni 50% glupost. U ovom slucaju - nije da on ne zna nista o nicemu, nego ti ne znas da je rekao nesto sto je 90% tacno, i opsteprihvaceno. A ti mozes da smatras da je on neobrazovan (stvarno - imas bolju diplomu od Wharton-a, svaka cast), neinteligentan (jer si ti napravila par biliona) i neobavesten (jer si ti predsednik USA). necu te uznemiravati, jer ti kao i vecina sa Balkana, znas kako da upravljas avionom, samo nisi nikad probala...a svako ko ne radi po tvojoj zelji je bukvalno idiot.
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Pa nije mi jasno zasto onda to stavljas u isti post. Mozda neko van USA ne razume da to sto je Florida promenila naziv za sve u "mail-in" je obicna tehnikalija, ali da vecina u US razume sta on misli kad kaze da podrzava absentee voting, a ne mail-in. Znaci nije rekao nista glupo, niti je licemeran sto je, kad je promenio zvanicno boraviste trazio da se prijavi kao glasac u odsustvu. To u principu rade svi, koji u odnosu na svoju glavnu adresu mogu da se nadju kao "expats" u toku glasanja, ili nisu u mogucnosti da glasaju na glasackom mestu. Samo 10% drzava ne pravi razliku, a 90% pravi, i postoji razlog za to. Zato sto je federalna vlada odavno napravila zahtev da se za "absentee" glasace napravi mogucnost da glasaju, u Ustavu. Nije to trazila za sve gradjane. Znaci to uopste nije glupost sto on govori, nego ima uporiste u Ustavu, a ne u lokalnim zakonima. Ovako ispadne, da je tvoj komentar glupost, jer ne razumes razliku.
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To sto je Florida promenila ime, ga ne cini tupsonom, posto vecina drzava pravi razliku izmedju ta dva. Alo, covek se prijavio u septembru 2019, kao neko ko nije fizicki na Floridi u vreme glasanja, sto je savrseno u redu - kao sto glasaju mnogi gradjani koji nisu trenutno na svojoj prijavljenoj adresi za glasanje. Sto se razlikuje od podrzavati da svi gradjani glasaju postom.
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Kako se nekad razgovaralo o uticaju illegalne emigracije na USA i na izbore (cisto da znamo zasto se DNC toliko borio protiv pitanja o drzavljanstvu u cenzusu): Aside from the burdens posed by illegal immigrants on crime, detention facilities, job security, taxes, wages, social security, medicare, Medicaid, violence, terrorism and drug and human trafficking, illegal aliens are slowly eroding the power of American voters. Though illegal immigrants dont have an effect on the popular vote, they are changing the electoral vote, and this change benefits Obama. Hispanic voters historically vote Democratic, and as reported by USA Today in July, Hispanics will become decisive swing votes in future elections. With the Hispanic population set to double to 30 percent by 2042 because of relatively higher birth rates and immigration and with leaders like Obama and McCain who support amnesty for illegal aliens this traditionally Democratic-leaning population will likely tip future elections in favor of Democrats. Indeed, the effects of Hispanic voters on this election are already being felt. A Pew Research Center survey showed 66 percent of Hispanics favored Obama to McCains 23 percent. USA Today reported the Hispanic vote is now large enough to determine outcomes in key battleground states, like Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada and Florida. Familial and cultural ties effectively concentrate legal and illegal immigrants together with ethnically similar foreign-born populations. Though this is not the only factor in the redistribution of seats in the House of Representatives, it is a major contributor. And with 70 percent of the foreign-born population living in just six states, the Center for Immigration Studies expects this rearrangement to continue for decades, resulting in changes to the U.S. House of Representatives and Electoral College. The distribution of seats in the House is referred to as apportionment, which is based on states total population and includes illegal immigrants. A national census is taken every 10 years to apportion seats in the House, but as CIS reported, the Constitution offers no method for apportionment, nor a method for compiling total population for apportionment. Currently, the resident population includes illegal aliens. Illegal immigration played a significant role in the redistribution of seats in the past. In 1990, 12 seats were redistributed, and in 2000, 16 seats were redistributed. Louisiana was one of the states adversely affected. In 2000, four states either lost a seat or didnt gain a seat they otherwise would have, and five states had one seat fewer than it otherwise would have. Five states actually gained seats because of illegal aliens. Nine redistributed seats went to California alone. These non-citizens also change the landscape of the electoral map because the Electoral College is based on the size of congressional delegations. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/column-illegal-immigration-affects-electoral-votes/
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Ok neke od drzava dozvoljavaju da glasas sa privremene adrese - iliti out of state, on je pokusao da se registruje dok je jos bio u tranzitu dok je premestao prijave iz NY na Floridu. florida ne dozvoljava out of state voting, osim absentee on je prijavu ispravio mesec dana kasnije kad je zvanicno postao rezident Floride. Znaci nikakvo muljanje.
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Problem je u tome sto vecina nece. Ne izdaju sve Dems drzave vozacke ilegalcima, cisto da znas. Poenta je da je odgovornost drzavne administracije da proveri drzavljanstvo pre nego nekog stave na listu registrovanih glasaca, a neki to ne rade (californija recimo dokazano), ili ako se neko odselio treba da ga skinu (a oni to ne rade). Glasanje postom omogucava daleko veci broj da glasa anonimno. Ne racunajuci Californiju, koja oslobadja krivice ilegalca ako je greskom dosao na listu glasaca, ostali uglavnom to tretiraju kao krivicno delo, i kaznjivo. Sta mislis da li je lakse izaci na glasanje i pociniti krivicno delo ili to obaviti postom, gde uvek mozes da tvrdis da nisi ti? Poenta je da se sa masovnim glasanjem postom povecava kolicina haosa, i mogucnost za muljanje. To ne znaci da i regularnim glasanjem nije bilo muljanja, samo je mnogo teze, i teze prozivati rezultate. btw komentar da ces "greskom" kao ilegalac doci na listu glasaca je definitivno sarkazam, oni to rutinski rade.
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nema dovoljno vremena za to. Three tubs of absentee ballots that never reached voters were discovered in a postal center outside Milwaukee. At least 9,000 absentee ballots requested by voters were never sent, and others recorded as sent were never received. Even when voters did return their completed ballots in the mail, thousands were postmarked too late to count — or not at all. ....... On Wednesday, the commission received a phone call from a postal worker in Milwaukee who said three bins of absentee ballots had been located that had never reached their destinations, mostly in Oshkosh and nearby Appleton. The number of ballots in the bins was not clear. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/wisconsin-election-absentee-coronavirus.html greskom 🙂 A loophole in the new law granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants could allow hundreds of thousands of people to fraudulently register to vote in New York, according to critics, the state Board of Elections and the bill’s own sponsor. “[A] major concern is that many states, including New York, use their DMVs to enroll voters. Since New York does not have voter-identification laws like the majority of other states do, this bill increases the potential for voter fraud,” state Sen. Republican Minority Leader John Flanagan (R–Suffolk) said Tuesday. ..... CHICAGO — Illinois lawmakers are raising questions about the integrity of state elections after the secretary of state admitted hundreds of non-citizens were registered as voters, and could have cast ballots illegally in the 2018 election. ..... BELLE PLAINE, Kan. -- A federal appeals court panel ruled Wednesday that Kansas can't require voters to show proof of citizenship when they register, dealing a blow to efforts by Republicans in several states who have pursued restrictive voting laws as a way of combating voter fraud. ..... On Tuesday, the Dhillon Law Group, where I serve as an election law attorney, filed a lawsuit against the state of California. This lawsuit alleges that California is violating federal law by not ensuring that only citizens are on the state’s voting rolls. Three California voters brought this lawsuit: Roxanne Hoge, Ali Mazarei, and Corrin Rankin. Both Hoge and Mazarei are legal immigrants who earned the privilege to vote by becoming citizens of the United States.
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Ali nije bas convenient, za glasaca jeste, ali za brojanje nije, kao i za mogucnost ne-regularnosti. Desavalo se i pre - da ljudi ne dobiju glasacke listice, da kutije glasackih listica ostanu zaboravljene negde u posti. Da ljudi glasaju za mrtve..... Samo sto je prethodno broj "mail-in" listica bio mali, i retko uticao na krajnji rezultat, iako ponekad i jeste pa su menjani rezultati (ne predsednicki). Sad pricamo o ogromnom broju "mail-in" listica. Znaci mogucnost za izbornu krizu se povecava. Da ne pominjemo da je sindikat postanskih radnika podrzao Bidena. Takodje Tramp je svestan da u nekim Dems state zazmure na jedno oko na glasanje ilegalaca. A drzave koje treba da osvoji uglavnom drze Dems. Na njegovom mestu i ja bih bila zabrinuta.
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Cekaj, kakva je to logika da ako vise ljudi glasa njemu su manji procenti? Zasto bi to bilo povezano? Znaci i 2016 nije bilo pandemije, glasao ko je hteo, pa je on dobio. U stvari logika bi trebala da kaze da ako je profil njegovih glasaca starije godiste (konzervativniji) da su to bas oni koji ce da izbegavaju regularno glasanje u vreme pandemije - i glasaju postom, tako da tom logikom on moze da ima samo vise procenata.....a ipak se buni protiv glasanja postom. Mozda to ipak ima neke druge razloge, recimo zato sto je muljanje sa glasanjem lakse postom? Kao sto je radjeno u CA u lokalu (imas presude), ili NJ (imas presude) Jel za njega USA glasala u mail in glasanju?
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Pitala sam te konkretno pitanje, zasto je danas glasanje postom sigurica da Tramp izgubi, zato sto kako ti tvrdis glasanje ce biti dostupno svima, kad je glasanje bilo dostupno svima 2016te, i Tramp dobio izbore. naravno da nije dileja da sebe osteti, pa zasto mu onda smeta glasanje postom? Mora da se nesto razlikuje od "dostupno svima"
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Ja znam zasto je on to rekao, pitam te zasto ti mislis da ce Tramp da izgubi izbore samo ako se glasa postom, a ne regularno. regularno je isto dostupno svima, zar ne? Sva ta prica tvrda baza i BS, na regularnom glasanju, gde je bilo dostupno svima da glasaju ...on dobio izbore. Sta je razlika u odnosu sa glasanjem postom? da nije da glasanje postom moze da se manipulise?
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Koliko ti ne kontas sistem u US, i prenosis misljenja bias medija koji nemaju nikakvo uporiste ...je prosto neverovatno. Glasanje u US je odavno dostupno svima, bilo je dostupno i kad je Tramp dobio izbore. Kako je sada glasanje preko poste sigurica da Tramp gubi izbore? Koja muljanja su se prethodno desila za glasanje postom? Pogledaj molim te. Demokratama nije smetalo da organizuju primaries usred pandemije, ali naprasno im smeta da se predsednicko glasanje obavlja regularno (nakon sto je svima jasno da virus nije zaustavljen lockdownom)? ne smetaju im masovna divljanja po ulicama, tzv "protesti", ali ce virus masovno da se siri ako regularno glasamo.... Posta je na respiratoru od kako je Amazon napravio dil, koji nije Tramp pravio. Zapitaj se zasto bi mi svi sad placali da posta subvencionise Bezosa. Ma jok, amazon dil nije nista ostetio postu
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Jel mozes da izbunaris neke relevatne izvore koji propagiraju teoriju da su crnci marxisti? Evo ja googlala, nema, ima raznih tipa marxism.com, neki socijalisticki sajtovi koji pricaju o marxizmu medju crncima i kako je to borba za slobodu, nemam pojma ja ne gledam FB pa si mozda tamo nasla te teorije....ima samo kritike BLM. Ima jedna knjiga iz '83 koja pominje neke veze izmedju borbe protiv rasizma i marxizma - nisam citala, ali cisto sumnjam da je promovisala Trampa. Ako ima milion teorija, evo ja samo hocu nekoliko. A da nije tipa, medju crncima ima marxista, ili medju crncima ima anti-semita, ili rasista..... mislim to je logicno.