Ne sam Safete Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Princeton said: Ma kakvo trolovanje. Dobro je viditi nekad situaciju i iz drugacije perspektive. Ja vjerujem da sam isuvise sentimentalno vezan za tu generaciju, i nekako ih podsvjesno worship-ujem, pa nije lose nekad preispitati stavove 😉 Ali Toni je stvarno bio van-vremenski igrac, sa svojim fizickim predispozicijama, versitilnosti, je tada bio prototip danasnjeg kosarkasa ubice. jos je i najbolje igrao baluna u reprezentaciji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Is Me Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Meni je nebulozna ta teorija zavere da u USA nisu videli kakav je igrač Toni pa su ga "pogrešno koristili". Ova poređenja sa Durantom su baš ultra nategnuta, uz dužno poštovanje. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Ja vidim kao ok tvrdnju kako su ga prebildovali, (u skladu sa tadasnjom kosarkom), pa su time alterirali njegovu prirodnu igru, pa samim tim karijeru. Ali bilo kakvo poredjenje sa ne znam kim iz skorijih vremena jeste nategnuto, i jeste sbbkbb, bar kao ozbiljno razmatranje, (ok je dati masti na volju pa reci ono on bi bio ovakav/onakav). Za ovu pricu ostaje zal sto nije otisao iz Bullsa negde u kasnim 20-im, i nasao tim gde bi bio, ako ne jasna prva opcija, onda bar starter bez koga se ne moze zamisliti ta ekipa. Tako bi se sigurno vise afirmisao, a mozda imao i daleko bolju karijeru i vecu slavu. Mislim, doneo je on odluke koje je doneo, ta prica je davno gotova a mi ovde drvimo, ali ajd'. Evo sad zamisljam timove iz sredine '90-ih gde bi on bio svoj, bilo ih je, ali bas me mrzi da sad vadim iz glave i analiziram... Edited June 2, 2019 by Marko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princeton Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Pa kako god neboluzna teorija zavjere, ona dolazi od Tonija licno, njemu je bilo receno, ako hoce minute mora da igra PF, i za tu poziciju su ga spremali. U poredjenju sa npr. Doncicem koji u svojoj prvoj sezoni moze da diktira stavove, koji napad hoce da se igra, koja pozicija mu najvise odgovara, i tim je podredjen njegovoj igri. Jbga pustim mastu za volju i razmisljam sta bi bilo da je Toni imao slican istaban put u NBA pred svoju prvu sezonu, vjerujem da bi imao drugaciju karijeru. Svakako jeste nategnuta prica i poredjenja (evo i Trinki rece za Drazena da je bio Kari prije Karija), i ona se vodi u romanticarskom duhu, sa ljudima iz slicne generacije koji su pratili kosarku pocetkom 90-ih. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didžej hel Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 This week in Knicks history: New York sweeps the Hawks in the ‘99 Conference Semifinals A series often overlooked, but never forgotten The story of the Knicks storming their way into the NBA Finals during the lockout-shortened season of 1998-99 is well-known, but history always seems to brush right past the team’s second round sweep of the fourth-seeded Atlanta Hawks, which was completed 20 years ago this week. It’s not too surprising that history likes to overlook how the Knicks easily pushed past the Hawks in the Conference Semifinals, as the series’ against the Miami Heat and Indiana Pacers that year were much more intriguing. Prior to playing the Hawks, the Knicks famously became the 2nd ever eighth seed to oust a one seed, besting the Heat thanks to Allan Houston’s glorious floater. After flying past the Hawks, the Knicks took down Reggie Miller and the Pacers in a series that included Larry Johnson’s finest shot as a Knickerbocker. The games against the Heat and Pacers may have had more drama, but the series against the Hawks is when it became clear the Knicks had coalesced into a team that might cause some serious trouble that postseason. The Hawks had finished the season 31-19 and were coming off a 3-2 series victory against the Detroit Pistons. The Knicks regular season record had been 27-23, but they were fresh off that Houston game winner, and the momentum showed. The Knicks got off to a hot start in game 1 in Atlanta, winning the first quarter 27-21. The Knicks would go on to win every quarter of that game, and the final score was 100-92. Houston dropped 34 points and was significantly aided by Latrell Sprewell, who came off the bench to pour in 31. Patrick Ewing, who was already hobbled heading into the postseason and played a gutsy series against the Heat, notched 17 minutes of action, posting 12 points on 6-7 shooting and adding 6 rebounds. In Game 2, Houston went cold, scoring just 2 points on 1-8 shooting, but Sprewell and others were there to pick up the slack. Spree scored 31 points again, and although no other Knick scored more than 12 individually, Ewing, LJ and Marcus Camby combined for 34. In the modern NBA that might sound pathetic, but consider that the final score was 77-70. Game 2 also represented something of a coming out party for Camby, who had 11 points, 13 rebounds and 2 blocks, plus one vicious slam dunk over Dikembe Mutombo that had Knicks fans everywhere mocking the Mutombo finger wag. Check out this video of that dunk in order to see just how much technology has improved over the last two decades: Winning back to back games in Atlanta to begin the series was sweet, especially for Sprewell, who had been suspended for almost all of the previous season for that whole choking his coach thing. ”It’s been great,” Sprewell said, according to the CBS recap. “Back then, I didn’t think I would be in this position. It’s nice to win in the playoffs. I’ve not experienced that before. I hope it continues.” The winning would continue when the Knicks went back home to Madison Square Garden for Game 3, another matchup that saw the ‘Bockers win every quarter en route to a 90-78 victory. NBA basketball was a different sport back then. Game 3 was once again a collective effort, with no Knick scoring more than 17 points, but five putting up double figures. Houston and Sprewell led the way with 17 apiece, Camby contributed 15 points, 6 rebounds and 3 blocks, and LJ had 12 points. Who’s the other Knick that scored in double figures, you ask? In one of his finest performances, Chris Dudley played 23 minutes off the bench and scored 14 points on 6-7 shooting. He added 12 rebounds and 2 blocks for good measure. By this point, New York knew the series was likely coming to a much more abrupt ending than originally expected. In Game 4, the Knicks once again stormed ahead, winning the first quarter 25-18, and as the game went on the Hawks barely even put up a fight. By halftime, the Knicks were up 48-37, and by the time the game was winding down, fans were chanting the name of Knicks head coach Jeff Van Gundy, who that April had been close to being canned. The final score was 79-66, which today could be a halftime score, and the Knicks once again gave a group effort. Houston had 19, Ewing had his best game of the series with 17 points and 9 rebounds, and Sprewell pitched in 11 points. Only two Knicks didn’t score a single point, as Johnson strangely shot 0-3 in 31 minutes of action, and Rick Brunson failed to post a point in his lone minute of playing time. ’’We never looked at our season like the wheels fell off,’’ Van Gundy said after the game, according to the New York Times. ‘’We were trying to get it right. We knew from day one, with as many changes as we made, it wasn’t going to work quickly. Thankfully, we did it in the nick of time.’’ In case you don’t remember just how unlikely it seemed for the Knicks to be stomping their way through the playoffs that year, this is the first sentence of the New York Times recap the day after the sweet of the Hawks had been completed: The Knicks’ remarkable transformation from a team teetering near collapse a month ago to one with a chance to turn its season into something special continued last night as they emphatically claimed Game 4 to sweep the Atlanta Hawks and take this second-round National Basketball Association playoff series. One might think there would be some kind of video available of the series between the Knicks and Hawks, and perhaps someone with more time on their hands can find some, but in keeping with the narrative that this series has been generally forgotten, video appears to be very hard to come by. The decimation of the Hawks may be largely overlooked, but when it happened it was a wonderful reminder that when you’ve got a team loaded with talent, sometimes everything comes together at just the right time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne sam Safete Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 4 hours ago, uini said: thanks to Allan Houston’s glorious floater. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sharp Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Na današnji dan prije 26 godina napustio nas je košarkaški Mozart, jedan od najboljih košarkaša Europe svih vremena, Dražen Petrović. Život leti kapetane... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didžej hel Posted June 9, 2019 Author Share Posted June 9, 2019 priggy smalls, 35ogodišnji ruki 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didžej hel Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 pre nego što se pojavio melo, omiljeni igrač mi je bio glen rice. baš čudno. evo ovde meće 56pts jednoj od boljih ekipa u ligi, mislim da je magija te sezone igrala finale 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne sam Safete Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Aj da ne guglam, iz Majamija u Sharlot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didžej hel Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) da. bar se tako ja secam. i u sarlotu je bio odlican *edit sa dikijem je igrao Edited June 10, 2019 by uini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Is Me Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 at Uini: Super je bio Rice, smooth m'fucker i puter ruka, ja sam počeo da pratim NBA malo ozbiljnije (ako se to može reći u tim godinama) sa onom Hornets ekipom u kojoj je on baš pržio. Nije čudo da si posle zavoleo Mela, sličan tip elegantnog strelca, s tim što je Melo malo više u bullyball fazonu (naravno u najsjajnijim danima). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne sam Safete Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, uini said: da. bar se tako ja secam. i u sarlotu je bio odlican *edit sa dikijem je igrao +Mason Edit: nije bio mason igrao sa Anthony-em Edited June 10, 2019 by Ne sam Safete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didžej hel Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 ajde kad sam krenuo sa favoritima iz 90ih vreme kada su u atlanti igrali lepi ljudi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefan81888 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Kad već spomijete Mela.. Meni bio veliki gotivac dok sam još gledao NBA na Sportklubu... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethrow Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 1 hour ago, uini said: vreme kada su u atlanti igrali lepi ljudi Ahahahaha, Kralju. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalistenika u rutini Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 https://telesport.telegram.hr/kolumne/gol-u-gostima/plavi-uragan/ 30 godina od EP u Zagrebu i možda najjače ex-yu reprezentacije svih vremena. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobar je Dzontra... Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Obnavljao malo gradivo uz Open court emisije (ko nije gledao svaka preporuka, odlicne su), u jednoj od emisija bila diskusija oko najboljih ball handlera, kako u svojoj tako i u protivnickoj ekipi. Uglavnom svi se slozili da je Muggsy Bogues bio svima nocna mora, Stive Kerr cak rekao da se vecina igraca oslobadjala odmah lopte pri prenosu ako je on krene ka njima. Stive Smith imao odlicnu pricu oko Mookie Blaylock-a, da je umeo da zanemari neke delove treninga (individualne/grupne) kao i da je vecinu slobodnog vremena koristio u nedogled gledajuci kasete sa sledecim protivnicima koje bi cuvao na utakmici, analizirao svaki pokret igraca sa loptom. Po Smithovoj prici umeo je da mu najavi da ce ukrasti loptu i da bude spreman za istcavanje kontre... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne sam Safete Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Ako se dobro sjecam, Muggsy je unistio Drazena na nekom od svjetskih prvenstava Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 '86 u Spaniji. Rekao bih da sira publika zna max nekoliko igraca iz te repke amera. Evo gledam, u grupi 2 (69:60 za amere). Nisam imao pojma dok nisam pogledao na netu, osim eto da je te god bilo u Espana. Bas old gem, steta sto nema (bar ne na yt) nesto bolje od ovog za tu tekmu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyglider Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Evo cela utakmica Jugoslavija vs USA iz 1986 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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