Angelia

U tome se slazemo. Ja sam se prethodno zezala (u svakoj sali pola istine) da cim otvore prodavnice odoh u maratonski shopping, samo da uhvatim malo tog osecaja normalnosti ili slobode. Pa otvorili, ja se odvezla - videla masu ispred prodavnica i vratila se kuci. Kaze mi poznanica da je bila u jednoj od prodavnica, i da je totalno ludilo, ljudi grabaju po troje kolica i pune.... Neka hvala, ja cu u ime slobode da idem malo da se prosetam gradom, gledam baste koje su otvorene, i prodavnice, ne steti da sacekam jos nedelju dve dok se masa ne izludi.

Nasi imaju zastite pleksiglas, ali ipak nose maske, na kasama - vidim kako ih povremeno spustaju iako je to zahtev drzave. Pitala sam jednog kako izdrzava, i on kaze spustim masku ispod nosa da malo disem. Inace za bold delimicno si u pravu, dosta moze da se poruci, ali nije sve tako idealno. Ti porucis on line, oni isporuce delimicno kao neke namirnice nemaju - cak i ako stoji on line da imaju, a ponekad i ne pokazuje on line da li imaju. Odes u prodavnicu a tamo sve stoji na rafovima. Nije bas tako idealno kako ti zvucis, ali rizik moze da se umanji.

Ne razumem pitanje. Rekla sam ako jos povecaju, ostalo je moja procena, posto imaju i tracere - nisam nigde procitala. Eh sad ti kao da je drzavna/gradska vlast iole razumna. GSP oduvek bio takav, a i nije kao da korisnici ne pridonose. Ja samo konstatujem cinjenice, ne sta bi moglo da bude.

Bez zezanja, ono sto sam primetila u US, je sada dobro da rade mnooooogo testova dnevno, 500-700k radnim danima. Ako jos povecaju - za mesec - dva svi koji su imali iole virus, ce biti locirani

Znas kakav je, da ja u njega kad sam u SR nisam usla 20+ godina, to je leglo zaraze i bez corone.

Na otvorenom, i opet da pojasnim, mislim kad se krecemo ulicom, i mozemo da odrzimo rastojanje, meni je nosenje maske bezveze - samo otezava disanje, a da i ne pominjem kod nas gde su teske sparne vrucine upravo pocele, pa i bez maske se teze dise. Nas su upravo delimicno otvorili, i ja i dalje izbegavam odlazak u prodavnice, zato sto se ceka u redovima da se udje, na vrucini, sa maskom, to uopste nije prijatno. Naporno je, mozda nije naporno za one koji su navikli da nose skijasku opremu i slicno. Nakon nekog vremena dises ugrejan vazduh. Ovde ne mozes da udjes u prodavnicu 5 minuta i zavrsis sta ti treba. Prvo cekas da udjes sa maskom, jer je kapacitet prodavnice ogranicen, pa onda dok obidjes prodavnicu, pa dok sacekas u redu za kasu (odstojanje), ne gine ti sat vremena svaki put.

Nosenje maske u prodavnici je naporno. Da se pogresno ne razumemo ja sam potpuno za to, medjutim nemoj da se pravimo blesavi kako problem ne postoji i cudimo zasto ljudi nece da ih nose. Recimo ja bih bila ok sa drzanjem rastojanja bez maske, ali posto to ne mozemo da garantujemo, jer se uvek nadje neki debil koji bas hoce da mi gleda preko ramena, ili mu se zuri na kasi.... preferiram maske.

Ma uopste nije antifa... PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Protesters in Portland reportedly looted businesses and set one side of Portland Police Bureau’s North Precinct on fire early Friday morning, after a night of demonstrations turned destructive. According to police, the north side of the North Precinct was set ablaze around 2:15 a.m. In response, officers used CS gas, a type of tear gas, to disperse the crowd — a few canisters of which were thrown back at police by some protesters. Earlier in the night, demonstrators reportedly attempted to create an autonomous zone outside the precinct before an unlawful assembly was declared. At one point in the early morning, protesters and officers physically clashed as police tried to move them from the area. Some protesters shot paintballs at the officers’ face shields, rendering them unable to see. Police say crowd control munitions were used at this time. Several businesses were looted overnight after windows were smashed and more fires were set, according to authorities. Although it is not confirmed which business was looted, Top to Bottom on NE MLK Boulevard had restoration crews out early Friday morning installing new windows and clearing debris. A nearby bank is believed to have been vandalized as well.

Ne znam da li si videla da sad pozivaju da se ukine americka himna, posto ju je napisao robovlasnik. Predlog - zameniti je sa Imagine Napadaju se spomenici abolicionizmu. Za kritikovanje BLM mozes da dobijes otkaz, iako vodje tog pokreta pricaju o rusenju drzave "bilo kakvim sredstvima". Prednost je da su izbori u novembru, problem je da su izbori u novembru i do tada steta moze da bude nepopravljiva. Samo sto u svakom slucaju nece da se zavrsi dobro.

Ne brini, razresice oni to do septembra... bolje im je

Gradjani i biznisi u Sijetlu u okrugu CHAZ tuze grad. Class action po starom dobrom americkom receptu (obestecenja u milionima). In the class-action lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court, about a dozen businesses, residents and property owners said they had sometimes been threatened for photographing protesters in public areas or for cleaning graffiti off their storefronts. The owner of the auto shop Car Tender said a burglar broke in the night of June 14, started a fire using hand sanitizer as an accelerant, and then attacked his son with a knife when confronted. The owner and his son managed to put out the fire and detain the burglar, the complaint said, but police never responded to their 911 calls. A large crowd of 'CHOP participants' then came to the scene and forced the owner to release the arsonist, it said. Other businesses, including the family-run label manufacturing company Richmark Label, said they had been unable to send or receive packages because delivery companies won't go near the protest zone or because access to their loading dock had been blocked by barricades. Magdalena Sky, the proprietor of Tattoos and Fortune, said in the complaint she is a supporter of Black Lives Matter but that her business was down severely due to the protest. A physical therapist and wine shop also said clients or customers had been afraid to enter the area. The complaint said that the city's decision to turn over the blocks and a nearby park to the demonstrators deprived them of their property rights without due process and amounted to an illegal gift of public property to the protesters. The plaintiffs are seeking damages for lost business, property damage and deprivation of their property rights as well as the restoration of full public access.

Ma mozemo mi da se zezamo sa pasivnom agresijom koliko hoces, i da se za svaki problem uhvatimo Trampa, eto on je "budala, idiot" koji je podelio zemlju. To nimalo ne menja cinjenice, da sve ovo nema veze mnogo sa Trampom. Dopustili su 10 godina da se anarhisti i marksisti slobodno razvijaju, i od tih 10 godina 6 komplet idu na racun Obame, koji nije reagovao kad se prvo to zlo pojavilo i krenulo sa politickim nasiljem. Za to vreme su se na ovoj temi potezali neki fasisti i rasisti, iako su potpuno bili uguseni. Sad cemo da vidimo posledicu kad se stvarno izazovi ljudi koji nisu bili ni fasisti ni rasisti, kad predju u desno, prosto jer moraju da se brane....Pretukli demokratskog senatora koji je gay, nije prosao test "misljenja".

Prosle nedelje sam procitala isto rekao jos jedan lekar iz Italije, koji ima visoki renome pa ga napali. Inace ovo me ne bi iznenadilo ako pogledamo kako se krece smrtnost sada i hospitalizacija. Pogotovo ako pogledamo cifre sa testiranjem, tamo gde ima dosta testiranja, smrtnost ne % jako niska

Mislim da je svima jasno sada zasto treba biti protiv nasilja: A night of unrest in Madison, Wisconsin, left two statues destroyed, windows smashed and a Democratic state senator hospitalized after he was attacked by a group of protesters near the state Capitol. State Sen. Tim Carpenter said he had been heading into work late Tuesday when he stopped to take a video of protesters gathered outside the Capitol. ‘I don’t know what happened … all I did was stop and take a picture … and the next thing I’m getting five-six punches, getting kicked in the head,’ Carpenter, 60, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Video footage captured by the senator shows hundreds of protesters chanting in the street, before two white female activists break from the pack and charge towards Carpenter’s direction. ‘Hey, you’re not recording,’ one of the women shouts, thrusting her hand towards the senator’s cell phone, eclipsing the camera lens. As Carpenter pleads with the woman to ‘leave’ his phone, she is heard ordering him to delete the video, with the two seemingly ensnared in a struggle over control of the device. In a photo of the melee taken by a bystander, Carpenter, dressed in a blue t-shirt and shorts, is seen standing in the street engaged in an animated conversation with at least two people. It’s unclear what was said before the situation turned violent, but violent it did turn. Carpenter said a group of at least eight to 10 people descended upon him, ‘punching and kicking’ him in the head. The assault has allegedly left him with a suspected concussion and a fractured nose, in addition to a bruised eye, sore ribs and back. ‘This has got to stop before someone gets killed,’ he told the Washington Post. ‘Sad thing I’m on their side for peaceful demonstrations — am a gay progressive Dem senator served 36 years in the legislature.’ Protesters, however, said the state senator had provoked them, the Journal Sentinel’s Lawrence Andrew reported in a tweet. Following the assault, Carpenter was seen kneeling down on the ground by his car. An ambulance was called after the 60-year-old ‘collapsed walking towards the Capitol’. ‘We called paramedics. An ambulance is here now,’ WKOW reported Lance Veeser tweeted, sharing an image of Carpenter lying on his back in shrubbery with his eyes closed. The unrest comes on the heels of the Memorial Day death of George Floyd, the 46-year-old black man who died unarmed and handcuffed under the knee of Officer Derek Chauvin of the Minneapolis Police Department. ..... The demonstrators also pulled down two statues, including one of Col. Hans Christian Heg, a Norwegian immigrant and abolitionist who died fighting for the Union during the Civil War in 1863. His shrine was beheaded and thrown into a nearby river, local media reported. A second monument, known as the ‘Forward’ statue, was torn down and dragged away from its base at the steps of the Capitol building. The bronze allegorical statue, which is more than 100 years old, depicts a female figure standing on the prow of a boat, with her right hand stretched out while her left clasps the American flag. The Wisconsin Historical Society said the statue symbolizes devotion and progress, according to its website. Wisconsin State Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, a Republican, criticized the demonstration and labelled the hundreds protesting in the streets as ‘thugs’. 'This is absolutely despicable. I am saddened at the cowardice of Madison officials to deal with these thugs,’ Vos tweeted. Early Wednesday, police in riot gear worked to clear the crowd amid reports they were trying to break the doors and windows of the Capitol building. The group ignored police instructions to disperse. In response, the police repeatedly played a recorded message stating, ‘This is an unlawful gathering. Please leave the area immediately.’

Ako si informacije skupljao sa twittera - totalno te razumem ja taj otrov obilazim u sirokom luku. Od skora imam nalog, ne sluzi nicemu, to je bilo zato sto me prijatelj smarao sto ga ne pratim na twiteru i nalog napravljen samo za to. A inace i ima ljudi koji se sa neizvesnoscu bore na razlicite nacine, moj je da se informisem.

U pravu si, u pocetku je bilo tesko opterecenje (ali imala sam vremena), ali sada vec lako mogu da pogledam odredjene textove, ili istrazivanja i da znam da nema smisla da citam. Napravicu ti kratak summary: niko ne zna dovoljno o virusu, nemaju resenje, znaju kako se prenosi, na tebi je da sebe drzis bezbednim. Znaci nista guzva, drzi distancu (svi na oni sa sportskim okupljanjima i slicno a bez zastite su budale). Medjutim virus je tu, i ostace barem neko vreme, kao grip. Ti samo mozes da umanjis verovatnocu da ga dobijes. To kad prihvatis, sve ostalo te nece preterano opterecivati

Ti uopste nisi jedini. Ovaj virus ce ostaviti dugotrajne mentalne posledice na populaciju, znaci od lockdowna pa do nesigurnosti. Vec su ti drugi odgovorili sa mnogo materijala. Ja se protiv nepoznatog borim citanjeg svega moguceg na temu. Ja sam jos uvek u manje vise lockdownu. Tj sedim u kuci, formalno mogu da idem, samo bas i nemam gde. Zooloski vrt otvaraju valjda za dva dana Tu i tamo po neka prodavnica se otvorila gde imaju ono 50% kapaciteta ili slicno pa stoje redovi....meni se ne provodi par sati ispod maske, na ovoj vrucini. Ako hoces da budes pazljiv, moraces da skontas da smo se probudili u nekom novom normalnom, zovi ti to distopija, ali ovaj virus ne ide nigde jos barem dve godine. Tako da maske, ostaju na duze vreme.

Hmmmm, da problem je Tramp, a ne sto imamo wild mob, koja u lokalu ugrozava gradjanska prava. Imamo lokalnu vlast koja dozvoljava da te neko utepa pod izgovorom da si "rasista", ali problem je predsednik koji nema veze s time. Mediji koji tvrde da su "protesti mirni", iako nasilje cveta, Cuomo koji tvrdi da je njegova odluka da strpa Covid pozitivne u staracke domove ustvari zato sto je slusao Trampa (mislim kad je on slusao Trampa). Pratim medije, i niko ne kupuje to sto prodaju.

Zivo me interesuje kako ce ovo da izvedu "mirno", Antifa raj nesto ne funkcionise?: Seattle officials announced on Monday that they would begin to dismantle the six blocks of occupied streets known as the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or “Chaz”, following two shootings at the site in 48 hours. “It’s time for people to go home. It is time for us to restore Cal Anderson and Capitol Hill so it can be a vibrant part of the community,” said the Seattle mayor, Jenny Durkan, during a press conference. “We can still accommodate people who want to protest peacefully, come there and gather. But the impacts on the businesses and residents and community are now too much.” Durkan said Seattle police would be returning to the east precinct, the site they abandoned after a series of dangerous clashes between protesters and law enforcement. She said they’ll do so “peacefully” and “in the near future” but did not offer an exact timeline. The decision comes about two weeks after a section of the Seattle neighborhood of Capitol Hill was occupied by protesters as a self-proclaimed police-free zone. The area is also known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (Chop). Hundreds of protesters have faithfully gathered there each day and night, filling the area with free food and community gardens, and holding speeches and teach-ins. Although it had been largely peaceful, that changed over the weekend, when two separate shootings took place. A 19-year-old man was killed and two others were injured, one critically. Officers responding to the shooting have said they “were met by a violent crowd that prevented officers’ safe access to the victims”, according to a police blog. Investigations of the shootings are still ongoing. During the press conference Monday, the Seattle police chief, Carmen Best, said that while there had been countless people protesting peacefully, there had also been “shootings, a rape, assaults, burglary, arson, and property destruction”. “This isn’t a debate about first amendment rights, this is about life or death,” she added. When asked what officials will do if people don’t voluntarily leave the area, Durkan said they planned to use a range of techniques, including working with black-led organizations to communicate with the people in the zone and offering outreach to those there who are homeless. “I think we’ve seen across the country and Seattle, it would not be an effective strategy to simply send police in to try to clear the area,” she said. The decision to send police back into the precinct was a major disappointment for some in the community who wanted the site repurposed. Kshama Sawant, a Socialist city councilwoman, has pushed for the precinct to be “turned over permanently into community control”. She recently announced on Twitter that she would be introducing legislation to convert the east precinct into a community center for restorative justice.

Ventura County Sheriff's Office, DA Office Employees Among 3 Arrested In Vandalism Of 'BLM' Sign Spomenike mozemo da rusimo, ali nemoj slucajno da ostetis BLM znak

A bronze statue of former US President Theodore Roosevelt is to be removed amid an ongoing backlash against symbols of racial bias and imperialism. The statue outside the American Museum of Natural History in New York shows Roosevelt on horseback flanked by a Native American man and an African man. Pa to je NY Times, novina koja je promenila naslovnu stranu da ne zvuci slucajno pozitivno za Trampa.

Nisam vadila krv, a ne znam da sam nekog zarazila, nije to bilo lako, sa aerodroma uzela Uber, 24 sata nisam bila u bliskom kontaktu ni sa kim. Do tada su simptomi bili jaki tako da sam izbegavala da se priblizim ljudima (to praktikujem i kod obicne prehlade). Znam naravno ko je meni dao.. jasno je meni da ne mora da znaci, samo znam da takav grip nisam nikad imala, a i osoba koja mi je dala je bolovala 2 meseca skoro. Inace u to vreme mi smo bili ubedjeni da imamo neki cudan grip. I to sam cula od dosta ljudi ove zime, zvanicno pre corone.

Ja sam u Sr fasovala neki jako cudan virus, koji je najverovatnije, imao direktnu vezu sa Azijom (znam kako), negde u oktobru - novembru, ne secam se tacnih datuma, ali sam nekim ljudima na forumu rekla kad sam napravila konekciju. nisam povezala taj cudan grip dok se nije pojavila prica o COVID 19. Inace ne oboljevam od gripa i slicno, cesto (mozda jednom u 5 godina). Nije mi ni palo na pamet dok me ljudi u martu/aprilu nisi podsetili kako sam bila bolesna ko pas. To nije bio obican grip. Inace ja sam prosla kroz aerodrom u to vreme, a da znam da sam bila zarazena sada, na letu za UK ako se tacno secam pa onda za US. Tek kad sam stigla u US skontala sam da sam pokupila neki gadan virus gripa. Simptomi su bili kompletno COVID 19. Planiram cim mogu da proverim da li imam anti-tela. Pa kad to obavim javicu, ako imam, virus je u Evropi bio u septembru, mozda gresim i kontam jako los grip kao COVID 19.

Pa to mu je i bila strategija, da bude potpuno nepredvidljiv, pa da ga se stoga plase. Da napravi potpuni odklon od uobicajenih diplomata.

Zar nije u Francuskoj jos uvek 14 dana karantina za sve van EU?