Angelia

Pa znaci to sto si ti osecala nije isto, eto to. Lokalne promene zivotnih troskova nisu isto. Jer recimo to ne utice na izvoz, kreditne uslove, wall st itd. promena lokalnih troskova zivota recimo nece uticati na tvoj 401k a inflacija hoce.

Mislim da se ne racuna na trajni imunitet, nego na smanjenje tezih oblika i smrti. Da virus predje u endemski. Sto se tice reinfekcije mislim da nemaju jos dovoljno podataka, iako ja znam par ljudi koji su za dva meseca bili 2X pozitivni, iako ne znam dal je oba puta bio omicron.

Ustvari to sad jeste cilj, kako ja citam ono sto svi govore. Zato se I spustaju mere, jer su dosli do zakljucka da zarazavanje ne moze da se zaustavi, pa stoga pustiti virus da prodje kroz populaciju sa manjom smrtnoscu, da se pandemija zavrsi.

Ova zena, je totalno zastranila, ona pocinje pricu o burzoaziji i samoupravljanju ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ: Well, I think at the end of the day, it is about who has control over the very core assets of production and society. If it ultimately comes down to a billionaire or the Koch brothers or the Koch family having control over the vast majority or large plurality of our oil assets in the United States, if it's a handful of very wealthy families having control over-- you know, private families having control over means of production, that is essentially the capitalist system that we live in. It is a small group that is of privatized control over what we eat and how we fuel our society. https://news.yahoo.com/aoc-capitalism-not-redeemable-system-110000599.html

Znas zasto je osiguranje poskupelo? Obama im je dao kako da profitiraju, da je ostavio sistem koji je postojao, to poskupljenje bi bilo nemoguce. To ne znaci da osiguranje ne bi bilo uopste skuplje ali ne bi otislo 500% ali ti i to ignorises. A ja sam vec probala da ti objasnim - to sto su neke stvari na Floridi poskupele 2018, nije posledica nacionalne inflacije. Vec lokalne ekonomije, tj upliva kapitala. Isto kao sto California nije skupa zbog inflacije. Znas to da kazes mrdu ali ne znas sebi. Imate visi minimum plate - od mnogih i jos ste podigli, nisi valjda ocekivala da ce zivotni troskovi pasti u tom slucaju? Neverovatno je i da ne znas sta znaci povecanje kamata na kredite

Pa znas kako - ako dobijes virus onda maske ne rade, a ako ne dobijes....da li je bitno da li rade Ali u pravu si Akiro je bolji primer, kad je on fasovao virus, sva cdc istrazivanja padaju u vodu....

Ti ovo zoves istrazivanje? 😜ali moram priznati da im je bas zgodan tajming... Evo jel mogu I ja da im dodam za istrazivanje rezultat da maske nemaju uticaj? Ono nosila, ili ne, nisam dobila virus 100% 😅ili Suncica, nosila dobila virus 2x

A koliko je bio porast realnih plata na nivou Floride u tom periodu? U %, da uporedimo. evo ovako: For the 2018 calendar year, Florida had 3.2 percent growth in Real Gross Domestic Product (GDP). For 2019, Florida’s growth slowed slightly from the prior year, but remained above the national average (2.8 percent in Florida versus 2.2 percent in the US). Translating the data into the state’s fiscal year, Florida grew 3.0 percent in Fiscal Year 2018‐19 and was expected to grow 2.5 percent in Fiscal Year 2019‐20 at the Conference held immediately before the pandemic. Through the first half of the 2019‐20 fiscal year, the data showed that the state was on track to match that Conference projection. Znaci - vi niste ni osetili inflaciju u tom periodu. Jer vam je porast GDP bio veci od inflacije. Osim ako nije totalno lokalni osecaj, usled drugih uzroka a ne inflacije. Kako vam je sad?

Kod nas sad kazu da se broj umrlih na dnevnoj bazi stabilizovao I opada, da je povecan broj bio zbog vremenskog otklona, I da je to prosle nedelje bio peak. Procitah negde da su bolnice na 76% kapaciteta, ali samo 16% toga su covid pacijenti. Broj obolelih opada, kako gde u US, kod nas sad negde 60% opao. Tako da ....zvuci dobro.

Nama lakse, samo zbog situacije, ali ne bih mogla da radim to sto Akiro radi. Klinac na fakultetu, jeste kad dodje mogao bi nesto da donese ali znam da pazi. A ako I donese, iako ranije mogla sam u ja, sad ovih mesec-dva manje idem okolo, ali zivim sa normalnom higijenom. Nista razlicito od pre pandemije - I eto osim tog nesrecnog stomacnog virusa koji je klinac nekako zakacio, nista za sada. Videcemo kako cemo narednih mesec dana....jer on sad definitivno ide na casove, a I ja se spremam na malo zivahniji drustveni zivot. Dosta vise...

nisam mogla da se setim izraza dok sam pisala, ali da, bas to.

Ovo je definitivno vrednosni sud a ne naivna konstatacija, gde se izjednacavaju "nesrbi" sa ostacima komunistickog rezima. Sutra ces ti biti penzioner, pa tako njihovo vreme nikad ne prolazi. A definitivno nema sta da se raspravlja sa "decom xxx", to je bezobrazluk. Klasicna nacionalisticka baljezgarija umotana u neku kritiku komunizma. I sta je "njihovo" vreme donelo? Pinkovsku kulturu, poseljacivanje (I ovde bez uvrede seljaka) I odbacivanje civilizacijskih normi, dok mladi nacionalsti sanjaju o zapadu ili zive u bubble opljackanih para, ko su njihovi roditelji? Oslobodioci bele tehnike?

Stvarno? ja cu se jako zabrinuti ako je proslo vreme boraca protiv velikosrpske hegemonije, radnih ljudi i gradjana, internacionalista, penzionera, seoskih ucitelja, novobeogradskih nesrba....ovo jbte ko da je Seselj pisao, i sta im smetaju pravoslavni Hrvati i brkate Crnogorke - fetish neki? Nije problem ima danas voska za depilaciju i licka i druga sirotinja? Seseljizam...

Nama predlazu da se vratimo na posao I ne zezamo lekare. 😁 Crtica: tetka (oko 75 tu je negde) naravno dobila antibiotike. Posto ima nekoliko bolesti za koje pije razlicite medikamente ona se zezne pa umesto drugih lekova, popila te antibiotike koji su bili, za svaki slucaj, za 5 dana, u roku od 24 sata, uzas. Kaze spavala 40 sati. Dobro ne bas neprekidno jer je uspela da napravi par maratonskih poziva, ali.... I opet cujem kako su ti antibiotici preventiva, tako im lekari govore. Al se nabacase lekova I analiza u SR

Pa videcemo, ja citala studiju, ima logike, i neke stvari koje navode sta jeste a sta nije imalo uticaja: Our main conclusion invites a discussion of some issues. Our review does not point out why lockdowns did not have the effect promised by the epidemiological models of Imperial College London (Ferguson et al. (2020). We propose four factors that might explain the difference between our conclusion and the view embraced by some epidemiologists. First, people respond to dangers outside their door. When a pandemic rages, people believe in social distancing regardless of what the government mandates. So, we believe that Allen (2021) is right, when he concludes, “The ineffectiveness [of lockdowns] stemmed from individual changes in behavior: either non-compliance or behavior that mimicked lockdowns.” In economic terms, you can say that the demand for costly disease prevention efforts like social distancing and increased focus on hygiene is high when infection rates are high. Contrary, when infection rates are low, the demand is low and it may even be morally and economically rational not to comply with mandates like SIPOs, which are difficult to enforce. Herby (2021) reviews studies which distinguish between mandatory and voluntary behavioral changes. He finds that – on average – voluntary behavioral changes are 10 times as important as mandatory behavioral changes in combating COVID-19. If people voluntarily adjust their behavior to the risk of the pandemic, closing down non-essential businesses may simply reallocate consumer visits away from “nonessential” to “essential” businesses, as shown by Goolsbee and Syverson (2021), with limited impact on the total number of contacts.47 This may also explain why epidemiological model simulations such as Ferguson et al. (2020) – which do not model behavior endogenously – fail to forecast the effect of lockdowns. Second, mandates only regulate a fraction of our potential contagious contacts and can hardly regulate nor enforce handwashing, coughing etiquette, distancing in supermarkets, etc. Countries like Denmark, Finland, and Norway that realized success in keeping COVID-19 mortality rates relatively low allowed people to go to work, use public transport, and meet privately at home during the first lockdown. In these countries, there were ample opportunities to legally meet with others. Third, even if lockdowns are successful in initially reducing the spread of COVID-19, the behavioral response may counteract the effect completely, as people respond to the lower risk by changing behavior. As Atkeson (2021) points out, the economic intuition is straightforward. If closing bars and restaurants causes the prevalence of the disease to fall toward zero, the demand for costly disease prevention efforts like social distancing and increased focus on hygiene also falls towards zero, and the disease will return. 48 Fourth, unintended consequences may play a larger role than recognized. We already pointed to the possible unintended consequence of SIPOs, which may isolate an infected person at home with his/her family where he/she risks infecting family members with a higher viral load, causing more severe illness. But often, lockdowns have limited peoples’ access to safe (outdoor) places such as beaches, parks, and zoos, or included outdoor mask mandates or strict outdoor gathering restrictions, pushing people to meet at less safe (indoor) places. Indeed, we do find some evidence that limiting gatherings was counterproductive and increased COVID-19 mortality. One objection to our conclusions may be that we do not look at the role of timing. If timing is very important, differences in timing may empirically overrule any differences in lockdowns. We note that this objection is not necessarily in contrast to our results. If timing is very important relative to strictness, this suggests that well-timed, but very mild, lockdowns should work as well as, or better than, less well-timed but strict lockdowns. This is not in contrast to our conclusion, as the studies we reviewed analyze the effect of lockdowns compared but to doing very little (see Section 3.1 for further discussion). However, there is little solid evidence supporting the timing thesis, because it is inherently difficult to analyze (see Section 2.2 for further discussion). Also, even if it can be empirically stated that a well-timed lockdown is effective in combating a pandemic, it is doubtful that this information will ever be useful from a policy perspective. But, what explains the differences between countries, if not differences in lockdown policies? Differences in population age and health, quality of the health sector, and the like are obvious factors. But several studies point at less obvious factors, such as culture, communication, and coincidences. For example, Frey et al. (2020) show that for the same policy stringency, countries with more obedient and collectivist cultural traits experienced larger declines in geographic mobility relative to their more individualistic counterpart. Data from Germany Laliotis and Minos (2020) shows that the spread of COVID-19 and the resulting deaths in predominantly Catholic regions with stronger social and family ties were much higher compared to nonCatholic ones at the local NUTS 3 level.49 itd. Vredi procitati.

Interesatna analiza: This systematic review and meta-analysis are designed to determine whether there is empirical evidence to support the belief that “lockdowns” reduce COVID-19 mortality. Lockdowns are defined as the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention (NPI). NPIs are any government mandate that directly restrict peoples’ possibilities, such as policies that limit internal movement, close schools and businesses, and ban international travel. This study employed a systematic search and screening procedure in which 18,590 studies are identified that could potentially address the belief posed. After three levels of screening, 34 studies ultimately qualified. Of those 34 eligible studies, 24 qualified for inclusion in the meta-analysis. They were separated into three groups: lockdown stringency index studies, shelter-in-placeorder (SIPO) studies, and specific NPI studies. An analysis of each of these three groups support the conclusion that lockdowns have had little to no effect on COVID-19 mortality. More specifically, stringency index studies find that lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average. SIPOs were also ineffective, only reducing COVID-19 mortality by 2.9% on average. Specific NPI studies also find no broad-based evidence of noticeable effects on COVID-19 mortality. While this meta-analysis concludes that lockdowns have had little to no public health effects, they have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted. In consequence, lockdown policies are ill-founded and should be rejected as a pandemic policy instrument. https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf Ne znam da li je confirmation bias, ali autori su ozbiljni ljudi. Prof. Steve H. Hanke, Founder and Co-Director of The Johns Hopkins Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise

Ja nikad nisam obratila paznju na text te pesme...sta kazes trave krave, prave, zdrave....

Inflacija postoji stalno, ali sve dok je ispod ili tu negde kod porasta realnih primanja I stabilna, ona se ne oseca. To je to, to sto si ti osecala je porast lokalnih troskova zivota. Sa ovom inflacijom vrednost dolara je pala svima. Vrednost valute je pala I medjunarodno. Krediti ce poskupeti svima, a najgore ce to osetiti srednja I niza klasa. To je razlika. Gubitke na trzistu cemo svi osetiti. Znaci sorry, sto si ti utripovala da ja pricam o nekim lokalnim problemima, ali inflacija u US je samo I uvek inflacija na nacionalnom nivou. I nemoj da se zanosis da toga ni Dems nisu svesni, barem oni koji ne tripuju da je stampanje para odgovor za sve. Pogledaj zadnje istrazivanje Galupa I sve ce ti reci. Nije ni cudo sto guraju tenziju sa Rusijom, da odvrate paznju.

Bane, necemo tako. Tramp je mogao da pokaze dokaze za nesto tako ako ih je imao, dovoljno vremena. Jasno je da dokaze nije lako naci, ali nije ih pokazao...tako da necemo kao Hilari koja je pricala Russian collusion I svi koji su podmetali da Tramp nije dobio izbore, ili ko sto Biden sad podmece unapred da izbori nisu legitimni zato sto zna da ce u novembru izgubiti. @Babystvarno nemam vremena za ovo. Svaka prica se zaustavlja sa tvojom tackom 3. Posto to sto si ti osecala od 2018 nije inflacija, nego lokalno podizanje troskova zivota, zato sto je tvoj lokal poskupeo, jer su se useljavali ljudi sa vise para. Znaci to sto su troskovi zivota u San Diegu veci nego kod mene, nije inflacija. I u tome je tvoj ili moj subjektivni osecaj nebitan. Kada dodje do inflacije ovog tipa, to oseca 99.99% i za to se gubi mandat na izborima (pogledati Kartera). Zna se sta su ekonomski parametri uspeha predsednickog mandata, a Biden je za godinu dana ubio sve. I to sto je Tramp, u situaciji u kojoj nemamo dovoljno informacija, odlucio da potrosi pare, a ja sam bila protiv dela tog paketa, Biden nije morao da pogorsa u situaciji gde smo vec znali da je to problem. Postoji nesto sto se zove "istorijski momenat" i "okolnosti". Laici su znali da to sto Biden radi...vodi u ekonomsku katastrofu, i on je priznao to u oktobru/novembru iako su to svi govorili u martu. Ali hteo je da bude "progresivan". Jel se secas one konferencije za stampu kad su ga novinari pitali sto ne ukine finansijske pandemic mere jer ljudi nece da se vrate na posao I ekonomija pati, I inflacija raste a on rekao "platite ih vise"? E to je dovelo do inflacije I ovolike krize supply chain... I ne, nedostatak radne snage nije posledica zaustavljanja imigracije, to je najludja izjava koju sam do sada cula nakon sto je Biden za godinu dana pustio rekordni broj ilegalaca u zemlju. Mislim svaka ti cast na analizi....

Pa ima tu mnogo kategorija za koje ne kontam sta su skrivili da je to "nase" po svom slucaju bilo lose, a "njihovo" nije - sta god to znacilo. A kad malo bolje pogledam listu...nesto mi zvuci da je kljucna stavka "borci protiv velikosrpske hegemonije", mislim da prepoznajem strukturu navedenih, taj pattern se ponavlja vise puta. i koliko god ja bila protiv komunizma, i koliko god kritikovala ekonomiju SFRJ, ovi "njihovi" su mi mnogo gadniji. Tako da - njima se stvarno dopada njihovo jer pravda i nije bila poenta.

Pa to bre svi, bas ga je preterao. Sta sam mu ja kriva sto sam sa 7 bila pionirka? Sta je to "nase"? I taj autor verovatno moze da se prepozna u vise kategorija kad bi otvorio oci....osim nekih "specijalnih" koji su mozda iz specijalnih razloga bili na "sluzbenom putu" ili "privremenom radu".

Generalno do 4-5 dana vecini ljudi virus ili prolazi ili simptomi, i ti sto dobiju upalu pluca dobiju je do 4-5 dana. Ako nakon 5 dana nemas simptome uglavnom nisi ni zarazan. Koliko sam skontala CDC uglavnom tvrdi da je vecina zarazna u prva 3 dana od pojave simptoma.

Dobila mamine rezultate, nista joj ne fali, sve u granicama normale. D-dimmer nije radila, kaze ide u petak, to se radi u privatnoj labaratoriji i placa Anyway, nemam pojma sto su probali da je posalju na Zvezdaru, sve deluje ok. A kaze mama neko koga zna isao na Zvezdaru, a doktorka tamo kaze "A sto bre vas sa Kosmaja sve salju kod nas kad vam nije nista"

Nije, zabole me uvo za Trampa, ali ti jos uvek ne kontas sta je inflacija, samo TDS. Ko o cemu ti o Trampu. Zato ti je I dosadno, tebi je problem sta predsednik prica, a ne sta radi. Forma iznad sushtine. Wall St I ekonomija nam se rushi oko ushiju, a ti I dalje ponavljas "orange man - bad". Ovaj gura rat sa Rusijom, ali nema veze ...glavno je da kaze da je on fin covek. Istraga sina Pelosi konacno stize fraud, istraga Huntera Bidena kaze da su oni veci mafijasi od Trampa, nije ni on cvecka, ali je neverovatno da ignorises posledice. Cilj opravdava sredstvo

Ovo je ono manje-vise sto sam pricala o gubitku poverenja u administraciju I autoritete u US. Gledala intervju sa zenom koja je profi virusolog, iako za HIV, negde s pocetka 2021. To mi je slucajno zapalo pa sam u toku intervjua skontala da je to pre nego sto je vakcina bila svima dostupna I pre omikrona. I zena recimo daje dobre argumente o koriscenju maski, I objasnjava koliko je zastrasivanje, demonizacija I pretnje, pogresna poruka (inace u to vreme ona prica o razlici krpenih maski I n95, I objasnjava da nijedna maska ne sprecava zarazu, ali agituje za poruku "sa maskom u zatvorenom prostoru mozda dobijete nizi viral load I obolite manje"). Kao sto je poruka "stitimo druge" pogresna, jer kaze mi smo ipak produkt evolucije i najvise brinemo kako da zastitimo sebe i svoje najblize. Nisam gledala sta je ispalo sa tim njenim istrazivanjima, ali zena zvuci razumno I nadasve dobronamerno. Ne zastrasuje, ne prisiljava, cak pominje da nista nismo naucili iz HIV epidemije da te taktike ne rade. Napala je laganje, I medijsku histeriju, sve smireno, I politizaciju. Povremeno za njenu teoriju o maskama, kaze "neznamo sigurno, ali bi volela da je dokazem". I kaze extremne mere pogadjaju najugrozenije, I usput pominje cenu lockdowna. Takve ljude bi volela da smo slusali na poziciji autoriteta, mislim sa takvim manirom I razumevanjem ljudske psihe u teskim vremenima, umesto "ja sam nauka Fauci". Intervju je radila sa nekim lekarom koji valjda vec duze drzi podcast I YouTube Channel, postavila sam ovde link prethodno njegovog intervjua sa FDA/ cdc strucnjakom u boardu