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Dragi forumaši, molimo vas da u vreme ove krize ostanemo prisebni i racionalni i da pisanjem na ovoj temi ne dođemo u situaciju da naudimo nekome. Stoga:

 

- nemojte davati savete za uzimanje lekova i bilo kakvu terapiju, čak i ako ste zdravstveni radnik - jedini ispravni put za sve one koji eventualno osećaju simptome je da se jave svom lekaru ili na neki od telefonskih brojeva koji su za to predviđeni.

- takođe - ne uzimajte lekove napamet! Ni one proverene, ni one potencijalne - obratite se svom lekaru!

- nemojte prenositi neproverene informacije koje bi mogle nekoga da dovedu u zabludu i eventualno mu načine štetu. Znamo da je u moru informacija po pitanju ove situacije jako teško isfiltrirati one koje su lažne, pogrešne ili zlonamerne, ali potrudite se - radi se o zdravlju svih nas. Pokušajte da informacije sa kojekakvih obskurnih sajtova i sumnjivih izvora ne prenosite. Ili ih prvo proverite pre nego što ih prenesete.

- potrudite se da ne dižete paniku svojim postovima - ostanimo mirni i racionalni.

 

Budimo dostojanstveni u ovoj krizi, ovakve situacije su ogledalo svih nas. 

Hvala na razumevanju.

 

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Allergies are not a reason not to be vaccinated; this also applies to hay fever, for example. However, if you have ever had a very severe allergic reaction - e.g. to wasp venom, individual foods or medication - you should definitely discuss this with your vaccinator.

 

As with all medicines and vaccinations, there may also be allergies to one of the ingredients. Then you shouldn't be vaccinated. The consent, which must be given in advance, therefore asks whether you have had an allergic reaction after a previous vaccination.

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Alergije nisu razlog da se ne vakcinišete, to se, na primer, odnosi i na polenska kojavica. Međutim, ako ste ikada imali vrlo ozbiljnu alergijsku reakciju - npr. na otrov osa, pojedinačnu hranu ili lekove - o tome svakako treba razgovarati sa vakcinatorom (lekarom koji je prisutan pri vakcinaciji).

 

Kao i kod svih lekova i vakcinacija, takođe može postojati alergija na jedan od sastojaka. Tada ne bi trebalo da se vakcinišete. Saglasnost, koja se mora dati unapred, postavlja pitanje da li ste imali alergijsku reakciju nakon prethodne vakcinacije.

 

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Alergije nisu razlog da se ne vakcinišete, to se, na primer, odnosi i na polenska kojavica. Međutim, ako ste ikada imali vrlo ozbiljnu alergijsku reakciju - npr. na otrov osa, pojedinačnu hranu ili lekove - o tome svakako treba razgovarati sa vakcinatorom (lekarom koji je prisutan pri vakcinaciji).

 

Na taj argument, ja sam dobila ovaj odgovor:

 

"A iskreno vise verujem u znanje Srdje Jankovica nego u znanje nekog lekara na terenu."

 

Covek je, izgleda, prelomio da nece, sumnjam da ce se predomisliti 

 

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ovo je generalno informacija za sve koji citaju.

 

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There were violent reactions to the first corona vaccinations in Great Britain. As the British health service announced, two of its employees suffered an anaphylactic shock after being vaccinated with the Biontech Pfizer vaccine. But they made a good recovery. The problem: The two vaccinated people were very allergic and knew about it, because they even had their emergency syringe with them. According to the vaccination recommendations, they should not have been vaccinated at all. People who know that they can have a very strong allergic reaction (for example to food or previous vaccinations) should therefore speak to their doctor before vaccination. This is also expressly mentioned in the package insert. Monitoring for 15 minutes is recommended after vaccination. Anyone who then suffers such anaphylactic shock is treated immediately with adrenaline. The second vaccination dose should then be avoided. The drug supervisory authority now wants to get to the bottom of the cases. Until the case is resolved,  people with severe allergies are advised to avoid vaccinations. The Mainz company Biontech and its US partner Pfizer announced that they would support the authority in the investigation. Britain was the first country in the world to start mass vaccination with the vaccine from the two pharmaceutical companies.

 

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Bilo je burnih reakcija na prve vakcinacije protiv korone u Velikoj Britaniji. Kako je saopštila britanska zdravstvena služba, dvoje njenih zaposlenih pretrpelo je anafilaktički šok nakon vakcinacije vakcinom Biontech Pfizer. Ali dobro su se oporavili. Problem: Dvoje vakcinisanih ljudi bili su vrlo alergični i znali su za to, jer su čak imali i špric za hitne slučajeve. Prema preporukama za vakcinaciju, uopšte nisu smeli biti vakcinisani. Ljudi koji znaju da mogu imati vrlo jaku alergijsku reakciju (na primer na hranu ili prethodne vakcinacije), zato bi trebalo da razgovaraju sa svojim lekarom pre vakcinacije. Ovo je takođe izričito navedeno u prilogu paketa (uputstvu). Nakon vakcinacije preporučuje se praćenje tokom 15 minuta. Svako ko tada pretrpi takav anafilaktički šok odmah se leči adrenalinom. Tada treba izbegavati drugu dozu vakcinacije. Nadzorni organ za medikamente sada želi da dotakne dno slučajeva. Dok se slučaj ne reši, ljudima sa teškim alergijama savetuje se da se ne vakcinacisu. Majncova kompanija Biontech i njen američki partner Pfizer najavili su da će podržati vlasti u istrazi. Britanija je bila prva država na svetu koja je započela masovnu vakcinaciju vakcinom ove farmaceutske kompanije.

 

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According to new studies by the US FDA, the vaccine from Biontech / Phizer works slightly better in older people than the vaccine from the manufacturer Moderna.

According to this, Biontech has an effectiveness of 94 percent in people over 65 years of age, Moderna in the age group only 86.4 percent. Reliable information on other age groups is not yet available.

 

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Prema novim studijama američke FDA, vakcina od Biontech / Phizer deluje malo bolje kod starijih ljudi od vakcine proizvođača Moderna.

Prema ovome, Biontech ima efektivnost od 94 procenta kod ljudi starijih od 65 godina, a Moderna u starosnoj grupi samo 86,4 procenta. Pouzdane informacije o drugim starosnim grupama još uvek nisu dostupne.

 

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People with asthma can get vaccinated in the same way as non-asthmatics. According to the non-profit European Foundation for Allergy Research (ECARF), asthmatics, regardless of whether they suffer from allergic or non-allergic asthma, have no particular risk with vaccination. If you are unsure, however, it is always advisable to consult the treating doctor. They know the medical history of their patients best and can help weigh up the benefits and risks of a vaccination.

 

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Osobe sa astmom mogu se vakcinisati na isti način kao i neastmatičari. Prema neprofitnoj Evropskoj fondaciji za istraživanje alergija (ECARF), astmatičari, bez obzira da li pate od alergijske ili nealergijske astme, nemaju poseban rizik kod vakcinacije. Ako niste sigurni, uvek je preporučljivo da se obratite lekaru koji leči. Oni najbolje znaju medicinsku istoriju svojih pacijenata i mogu pomoći u vaganju koristi i rizika vakcinacije.

 

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High Blood Pressure - Is Vaccination Critical If I Have High Blood Pressure?

There is still no clear statement about this. However, the recommendation of the German Heart Foundation is that people with cardiovascular diseases, including high blood pressure, should also - and especially - get vaccinated against Covid-19. Because they have an increased risk of a serious disease course if they become infected with the coronavirus. You have to weigh the benefits against the risk. And: In the approval study by Biontech and Pifzer, for example, people with high blood pressure were also included. They were also found to be around 95 percent effective. And there were no serious side effects.

 

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Visok krvni pritisak - Da li je vakcinacija presudna ako imam visok krvni pritisak?

O tome još uvek nema jasne izjave. Međutim, preporuka Nemačke fondacije za srce je da ljudi sa kardiovaskularnim bolestima, uključujući visok krvni pritisak, takođe treba - i posebno - da se vakcinišu protiv Covid-19. Zato što imaju povećan rizik od ozbiljnog toka bolesti ako se zaraze koronavirusom. Morate izmeriti korist sa rizikom. I: Na primer, u studiji o odobrenju Biontecha i Pifzera bili su uključeni ljudi sa visokim krvnim pritiskom. Takođe je utvrđeno da su efikasni oko 95 posto. I nije bilo ozbiljnih neželjenih efekata.

 

 

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Blood thinners - can I still be vaccinated?

 

Many people - for example after heart valve surgery - have to take blood-thinning medication for life, such as Marcumar, Falithrom, Pradaxa, Lixiana, Eliquis or Xarelto. These people rightly wonder if the vaccination could cause them problems. The good news: Vaccination is possible - but be sure to discuss this with the vaccination doctor before vaccination. In these cases, a particularly fine needle is used and the puncture site must then be pressed firmly with a compress for two to five minutes. You should also stay at the vaccination center for half an hour after the vaccination for follow-up. It would also be conceivable to reduce the dose of the blood thinner before the vaccination. Those affected have to do this before planned operations, for example. However, this may only be done in consultation with the doctor!

 

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Razređivači krvi - mogu li se i dalje vakcinisati?

 

Mnogi ljudi - na primer nakon operacije srčanih zalistaka - moraju doživotno da uzimaju lekove za razređivanje krvi kao što su Marcumar, Falithrom, Pradaka, Likiana, Elikuis ili Ksarelto. Ti se ljudi s pravom pitaju da li bi im vakcinacija mogla stvoriti probleme. Dobra vest: Vakcinacija je moguća - ali obavezno razgovarajte o tome sa doktorom za vakcinaciju pre vakcinacije. U tim slučajevima koristi se posebno fina igla, a mesto uboda mora se zatim čvrsto pritisnuti oblogom tokom dva do pet minuta. Takođe bi trebalo da ostanete u centru za vakcinaciju pola sata nakon vakcinacije radi praćenja. Takođe bi bilo moguće smanjiti dozu razređivača krvi pre vakcinacije. Na primer, oni koji su pogođeni to moraju da urade pre planiranih operacija. Međutim, to se može učiniti samo uz konsultacije sa lekarom!

 

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Covid-19 disease - should you get vaccinated if you have already had Covid-19?

 

Since the vaccines are still very scarce at the moment, people who have already contracted Covid-19 are not among the prioritized groups. At the vaccination appointment, however, no evidence is required that excludes Covid-19. So it can happen that people who are already sick are vaccinated without being noticed. There were also subjects in the vaccination studies who already had Covid-19. So far there is no evidence that this could be a problem. Later in 2021, people who are already ill will be advised to get vaccinated, as it is not yet known how long their immune protection will last after an illness.

 

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Bolest Covid-19 - treba li se vakcinisati ako ste već imali Covid-19?

 

S obzirom da su vakcine trenutno još uvek retke, ljudi koji su već  preboleli Covid-19 nisu među prioritetnim grupama. Na terminu za vakcinaciju, međutim, nisu potrebni dokazi koji isključuju inficiranost Covid-19. Tako se može dogoditi da se ljudi koji su već bolesni vakcinišu a da se to ne zna. Takođe je bilo ispitanika u studijama vakcinacije koji su već  bili inficirani Covid-19. Za sada nema dokaza da bi ovo mogao predstavljati problem. Kasnije tokom 2021. godine, ljudima koji su već  preboleli Covid-19 savetuje se da se vakcinišu, jer još nije poznato koliko će dugo trajati njihova imunološka zaštita nakon bolesti.

 

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COPD - I have COPD: can I get vaccinated?

 

Patients with the chronic lung disease COPD and other pre-existing lung diseases can also be vaccinated. The corona vaccines have also been tested on people with COPD. No unusual side effects were found. The British Lung Foundation explicitly states on its website that the vaccine is safe for people with pre-existing lung diseases. There is also no evidence that the vaccination may interact with drugs. If you are unsure, however, it is always advisable to consult the treating doctor. They know the medical history of their patients best and can help weigh up the benefits and risks of a vaccination.

 

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Diabetes - I have diabetes. Can I be vaccinated?

 

People with diabetes can be vaccinated. The German Diabetes Society expressly recommends the vaccination, as diabetics have a higher risk of becoming seriously ill if infected with the coronavirus. For the time being, the recommendation only applies to adults. Because the vaccine has not been studied in children and adolescents, it is not approved for anyone under the age of 16. If there are any uncertainties, patients should consult their doctor before vaccination in order to weigh up the benefits and risks of a vaccination.

 

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Cancer - I have cancer: can I get vaccinated?

 

People who have cancer can also get vaccinated. According to the German Society for Hematology and Oncology, neither the disease itself nor the therapy speak against vaccination. On the contrary: since cancer patients have a higher risk of becoming seriously ill after a corona infection, the experts recommend vaccination in most cases. However, they point out that you should talk to the doctor treating you before vaccination to discuss the individual risk. If the immune system is severely suppressed, for example by high-dose chemotherapy, the vaccine may not work well. In order to reduce the risk of infection in this case, the other members of the household should be vaccinated if possible.

 

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Libido - Is It True That Vaccination Could Have Effects On Libido?

 

In the registration studies for the vaccines from Biontech / Pfizer and Moderna, no evidence of effects on libido can be found. There is also no comprehensible reason why the vaccination should have a negative impact on this. But one thing is clear: Anyone who is seriously ill with Covid-19 will certainly feel the effects on their sex life - with more severe symptoms, certainly not only during the acute phase of the disease.

 

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Infertile - Does Vaccination Make Infertile?

 

A vaccination against Covid does not make you sterile. The rumor is based on a supposed similarity between the virus' spike protein and a protein produced by the body that is important for the formation of the placenta. The idea: antibodies against the virus would also attack the body's own proteins after the vaccination, thereby preventing the placenta from building up. Experts say, however, that the similarity between the two proteins is not so great that that could happen. In addition, every woman who already had a Covid-19 infection would then have to be sterile. That's not the case. Studies have also not found an increase in the number of miscarriages or complications.

 

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https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2021/01/26/basic_science_helped_us_win_world_war_ii_its_also_why_well_defeat_covid-19_657851.html

 

Similarly, the medical breakthroughs that led to the COVID-19 vaccines were possible—and possible on such a short time scale—in part because of scientific discoveries made decades before. In fact, while mRNA vaccines are relatively new, the discovery of mRNA came almost exactly half a century earlier—and had little to do with medical technology. By the middle of the last century, enormous progress was underway in the life sciences, especially in the burgeoning field of molecular genetics, spurred by Watson and Crick’s famous discovery of the structure of DNA in 1953. This was the beginning of a revolution in the life sciences comparable in significance to that which took place in the physical sciences in the decades leading up to World War II.

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Interesantna zapazanja iz Izraela:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/experts-say-serology-tests-unreliable-as-immunity-doesnt-require-antibodies/

 

Experts say serology tests unreliable, as immunity doesn’t require antibodies

 

"Serološki testovi, koji otkrivaju antitela u krvi ljudi koji su se oporavili od bolesti ili su vakcinisani, bili su smatrani  ključnom metodom za utvrđivanje ko je manje verovatno da će biti zaražen ili preneti virus, od strane Nachman Ash.

 

Ali Tal Brosh, šef infektivne jedinice u Medicinskom centru Assuta u Ašdodu i član odbora koji savetuje Ministarstvo zdravlja, podneo je dokument upozoravajući da „prema danas poznatim podacima serološki testovi nisu pouzdano ili valjano sredstvo da bi se utvrdio nivo zaštite od infekcije, ni nakon oporavka, ni nakon vakcinacije. "

 

Zbog toga se ne savetuje da se koriste ti testovi za praćenje onih koji su primili vakcinu, osim za medicinska istraživanja“, napisali su Brosh i njegov tim, prema hebrejskim medijskim izveštajima u sredu.

Stručnjaci su svoje mišljenje zasnovali na nedavnim studijama koje pokazuju da dok antitela na COVID-19 uglavnom blede u roku od četiri do osam meseci, telo u velikoj većini slučajeva ostaje imuno na reinfekciju, što znači da nivo antitela ne može tačno predvideti da li ili ne u kojoj meri je čovek imun.

 

Izrael je već sproveo nekoliko istraživanja antitela kao statističko sredstvo kako bi utvrdio da li se zemlja približava imunitetu stada. Nedavna istraživanja bacaju ozbiljnu sumnju u validnost testova čak i u statističke svrhe, jer bi se mnogi ljudi imuni na COVID-19 pokazali negativnim.

Ako Ministarstvo zdravlja prihvati novo mišljenje, testovi na antitela neće biti deo uvođenja „zelenog pasoša“.

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Jos jedan igrac se pojavljuje na sceni vakcina:

 

https://ir.novavax.com/news-releases/news-release-details/novavax-covid-19-vaccine-demonstrates-893-efficacy-uk-phase-3

 

"Novavax COVID-19 Vaccine Demonstrates 89.3% Efficacy in UK Phase 3 Trial"

 

Novavax COVID-19 vakcina demonstrira 89,3% efikasnosti u ispitivanju faze 3 u Velikoj Britaniji

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Jos jedan igrac se pojavljuje na sceni vakcina:

 

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"Novavax COVID-19 Vaccine Demonstrates 89.3% Efficacy in UK Phase 3 Trial"

 

Novavax COVID-19 vakcina demonstrira 89,3% efikasnosti u ispitivanju faze 3 u Velikoj Britaniji

 

1. 96% efikasnost za orginalni virus

2. 86%  za britanski soj

3. 60% za juznoafricki soj

4. 50% za HIV pozitivne

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Kad se pomenu grip, od znalaca ovdasnjih bih voleo čuti koliko je mRNA tehnologija pogodna za razvijanje vakcine protiv gripa?
Ne znam nista o vakcinama protiv gripa, poslednji put sam se vakcinisao pre 15 godina ali ko je pa tad uopšte razmišljao o različitim tehnologijama u toj oblasti.
Dakle, ako su ove vakcine toliko efikasne protiv korone, a čitali smo da vakcine protiv gripa imaju daleko lošiju efikasnost (neko je postavio tekstove gde je neke godine postignuta efikasnost od svega 25-30%) da li se onda otvara novo poglavlje u razvoju vakcina protiv influence?
Ili je zapravo sad ispalo da je protiv gripa dovoljno (@urosg3 na tvoju sreću [emoji1787]) nositi masku!

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Izgleda ivermectin postaje zvanicno priznat kao profilaksa i lek za covid

 

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-COVID-19.pdf

 

Nisam znala da je u Australiji takoreci priznat jos od aprila. U Evropskoj Uniji ga Slovacka priznala prva juce, inace u Evropi makedonija ga priznala pre mesec dana !

 

Tekst popularno napisan ali koristan na temu ivermectima na francuskom doduse

 

https://www.francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/traiter-et-prevenir-le-covid-cest-possible-livermectine-pour-sauver-la-planete

 

 

 

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Nice info!

 

Covid-19 immunity likely lasts for years

 

"A new study shows immune cells primed to fight the coronavirus should persist for a long time after someone is vaccinated or recovers from infection.

Covid-19 patients who recovered from the disease still have robust immunity from the coronavirus eight months after infection, according to a new study. The result is an encouraging sign that the authors interpret to mean immunity to the virus probably lasts for many years, and it should alleviate fears that the covid-19 vaccine would require repeated booster shots to protect against the disease and finally get the pandemic under control."

 

 

"Nova studija pokazuje da bi imune ćelije pripremljene za borbu protiv koronavirusa trebale da opstanu dugo vremena nakon što se neko vakciniše ili oporavi od infekcije.

Prema novom istraživanju, pacijenti sa Covid-19 koji su se oporavili od bolesti i dalje imaju snažan imunitet od koronavirusa osam meseci nakon infekcije. Rezultat je ohrabrujući znak koji autori tumače da imunitet na virus verovatno traje dugi niz godina, a trebalo bi da ublaži strahove da bi vakcina covid-19 zahtevala ponovljene podsticajne injekcije kako bi se zaštitila od bolesti i konačno pandemiju stavila pod kontrolu."

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Pozdrav dobri ljudi.

Pravim neku studiju za smrtnost od Covida u Srbiji, pa bi me zanimalo da li znate gde mogu da nadjem tacne podatke u Excel tabelama od pocetka epidemije?

Ovaj: https://covid19.data.gov.rs/ i ovaj: https://covid19.rs/статистички-подаци-о-коронавирусу/  sajt daju poprilicno dobre grafikone, medjutim ne vidim kako mogu da "izvezem" te podatke kako bih radio sa njima?

Pisao sam i na ovaj mejl koji su dali, ali bez odgovora.

Hvala puno unapred!

 

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By the late 1970s, May and Anderson had developed the “trade-off” model for the evolution of virulence – the first conceptual framework in 100 years to challenge the Smith’s general law of declining virulence.

The trade-off model recognises that pathogen virulence will not necessarily limit the ease by which a pathogen can transmit from one host to another. It might even enhance it. 

 

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Malo da rušim sneška...

 

Sada sam vodio veoma sadržajan razgovor sa veterinarkom koja 25 godina radi na kontroli lekova za razne veterinarske proizvode, a takođe i na proizvodnji veterinarskih lekova. Takođe sam na tu temu razgovarao sa sestrom od tetke koja je farmaceut (ona je mislila da nigde nije odobren za ljudsku upotrebu).

 

Razgovarali smo o upotrebi Ivermektina kao prevencije/leka za kovid.

 

Ona je izričito protiv, i za to je iznela poprilično ubedljive argumente.

 

Prvo, aposlutno je protiv korišćenja tečne varijante jer sadrži propilen glikol.

 

Što se tiče praška/tableta, takođe je protiv, sem jednokratnog korišćenja. Znači ništa na redovnoj, nedeljnoj bazi. Razlog za to je što česta upotreba Ivermektina u razdoblju od 3-5 godina od korišćenja na laboratorijski tretiranim životinjama dovodi do razvoja bolesti jetre i bubrega.

 

Prenosim ova saznanja u izvornom obliku kako sam i došao do njih, a svako neka ih upotrebi kako misli da je shodno.

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5 minutes ago, Laki21 said:

Malo da rušim sneška...

 

Sada sam vodio veoma sadržajan razgovor sa veterinarkom koja 25 godina radi na kontroli lekova za razne veterinarske proizvode, a takođe i na proizvodnji veterinarskih lekova. Takođe sam na tu temu razgovarao sa sestrom od tetke koja je farmaceut (ona je mislila da nigde nije odobren za ljudsku upotrebu).

 

Razgovarali smo o upotrebi Ivermektina kao prevencije/leka za kovid.

 

Ona je izričito protiv, i za to je iznela poprilično ubedljive argumente.

 

Prvo, aposlutno je protiv korišćenja tečne varijante jer sadrži propilen glikol.

 

Što se tiče praška/tableta, takođe je protiv, sem jednokratnog korišćenja. Znači ništa na redovnoj, nedeljnoj bazi. Razlog za to je što česta upotreba Ivermektina u razdoblju od 3-5 godina od korišćenja na laboratorijski tretiranim životinjama dovodi do razvoja bolesti jetre i bubrega.

 

Prenosim ova saznanja u izvornom obliku kako sam i došao do njih, a svako neka ih upotrebi kako misli da je shodno.

 

Laki21 - treba da se naznaci da je ta prica za veterinarski lek, koji je u Srbiji. U Srbiji kompanije nemaju para/koristi da ga registruju za humanu upotrebu.

 

Plus, ovde i ne pricamo o upotrebi ivermektina od 3-5 godina, naopako!!

Prica o ivermektinu je prica o leku za ljude, koji je registrovan za ljudsku upotrebu u mnogim drzavama. O tom mi pricamo ovde.

 

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