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Ti ocigledno ignorises ono sto pricam i pokusavas da okrenes na "pa sta". Poenta je da je ta pomoc trebala da bude potrosena na rente, ili lokalne usluge, kako bi se "pare vrtele" u ovoj ekonomiji. Medjutim ljudi su svesno odlucili da ih bace na gluposti. Ne smeta meni ni Amazon sto postoji, niti sto se krpice prave u Kini, ili na Taiwanu. Ali mislim da je potpuno bezveze da se pare od nadoknade za nezaposlenost trose na te bezvredne krpice i djindjuve, a onda otrci do food bank za osnovne potrepstine, ili trazi da stanodavci zaborave na rentu iako moraju da plate hipoteke, poreze i plate. Znaci moglo je to da se bolje isplanira u lokalu pa da se vecini da neka vrsta kredita za placanje rente, hrane, lekova i slicnih normalnih lokalnih potrepstina a ne na gluposti. Moratorijum na evictions ne bi uopste bio potreban.

Nisam ni rekla da nisu svi placali rentu, ne moramo ici u extreme za sve sto kazem. Nije dobro jer su pare potrosene na kineske djindjuve, i slican bofl a ne na ono sto cini da se pare vrte, tipa u usluznim delatnostima Nemam ja nista protiv Amazona, to je primer za vrstu robe, koja u stvari ne miltiplicira stvarno uticaj na ekonomiju. To opet ne znaci da nema uopste, ali nema adekvatno jer najveci deo odlazi van zemlje a ne na plate.

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Pa ne bas na takav nacin, dok su istovremeno unistili ugostiteljsku industriji, i zeznuli stanodavce....a ti nezaposleni ni rentu ne placaju. Zato je Amazon zaradio rekordno. Nece biti da je isto, kad pare odu na kinesku robu a ne na ono sto treba, a to je zarade.

Nemam pojma sto se cudis tome u SR, rade to i kod nas - bezvezne alibi mere koje nista ne rade ali samo unistavaju zdrav razum i izazivaju potpuno suprotan efekat: California Health and Human Services Secretary Mark Ghaly has admitted the state ban wasn’t based on evidence that outdoor dining plays a significant role in spreading COVID-19. Ghaly said the policy, a grave threat to businesses that were already barely surviving, is “not a comment on the relative safety of outdoor dining” but is instead aimed at discouraging Californians from leaving home. Ghaly assumes that giving people fewer things to do outside their homes will push them toward safer behavior. But as Morrow noted, “these greater restrictions are likely to drive more ­activity indoors” — a “much riskier” setting. New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham apparently didn’t consider that possibility when she imposed a two-week “pause” last month that shut down golf courses and state parks. Although many parks remain open in California, camping is banned in restricted regions, and the state says residents “should not travel significant distances for recreation.” COVID-19 restrictions are equally capricious in other states. New York Gov. Cuomo last week banned indoor dining in Gotham, even though his own data showed that restaurants accounted for just 1.4 percent of infections, while Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz banned both indoor and outdoor dining at a time when 1.7 percent of cases were linked to restaurants. Another Walz decree was so sweeping and invasive that even The New York Times, usually a big fan of COVID-19 restrictions, was taken aback. Walz “took the extraordinary step of banning people from different households from meeting indoors or outdoors, even though evidence has consistently shown the outdoors to be relatively safe,” the paper ­reported. Cuomo’s eagerness to show he was doing something about the ­epidemic led him to impose onerous limits on “houses of worship,” a policy so blatantly discriminatory, it was overturned by the Supreme Court. Even when ill-advised restrictions don’t violate the Constitution, they provoke resentment and resistance, which undermine compliance with the sensible precautions that are crucial to containing the virus until vaccines are widely available.

Ne samo sto imaju troskove, zamisli velike landlords koji su firme koje zaposljavaju ogroman broj ljudi. Oni su morali da otpustaju zaposlene da bi izdrzali, ali oni moraju da placaju hipoteke i glavno je da su drzave pokupile svoje RE taxes, to nisu ukinuli, ali su omogucili da stanari ne placaju. I sta sad kad moratorijum prodje? Samo ce se advokati obogatiti. U NY ne znam da li su pokupili 70% renti, ali Cuomo hoce da uvodi backdated taxes....covek nacisto lud. To nije ni ustavno. Glavno je da je zatvorio restorane i da trazi da ga Federalna vlada izvuce

Stimulus check podrzavam sto je trazio povecanje, jer koliko znam ljudi su dobili samo jedan od pocetka pandemije od $1,200 a to je nedovoljno. Zato sto je dosta ljudi trosilo ustedjevinu ili nije imalo prihoda, ili smanjene prihode. Davati 600$ nedeljno nezaposlenima kao u prvom krugu je bezveze - jer dosta njih nije toliko zaradjivalo ni pre-pandemic pa su trosili na gluposti. Isto tako, bolje ljudima 2k nego pare na svakakve gluposti i programe koji ne sluze nicemu. I naravno pomoc za biznise, ali ne crkve i gluposti nego za one koji su stvarno osteceni. BTW nadam se da su ubacili program za renters - koji ce direktno placati za landlords, jer su idioti prestali da placaju kirije zbog moratorijuma i trosili svoje cekove za nezaposlene, i tako dalje ostetili ekonomiju.

Bila sam zauzeta ovih nedelja da detaljno pratim, zar nije on trazio da one-time check poveca na $2,000 a ne nezaposlenima nadoknadu? Jednokratna pomoc mi je ok, a veliki cekovi za nezaposlene - koji veze nemaju sa njihovim realnim zaradama mi je bezveze. Sto se tice jednokratne pomoci - imali smo samo jednu onu od 1,200 zar ne?

Mi poceli da dobijamo reklame za testove - antigenski za firme - kao ako hocete da sprecite da vam se radnici razbole...

To zato sto dosta nas govori engleski, ili je sa engleskog govornog podrucja. Malo bi bilo problematicno prevoditi izvore. Ne pisemo mi prosto postove na engleskom - to je samo iz izvora....ok ja ponekad ubacim poneku englesku rec kad u trenutku ne mogu da mislim na SH. @wwwwhvala za prevode na engleski pa mogu da znam sta je unutra, ako me interesuje ubacim u google translate.

Pfizer and Moderna haven't specified whether their vaccines are safe for people who previously had COVID-19. Studies have suggested these people might have immunity that lasts anywhere from several months to several years. But the research is far from conclusive. They're likely to need a vaccine at some point. "We want to look at vaccinating patients who have not been infected with COVID who are susceptible," Todd Ellerin, the director of infectious diseases at South Shore Health in Massachusetts, told Business Insider. "The post-COVID patients are not going to be your first, second, third, or fourth tier of groups that you're going to look at to want to vaccinate." For people with long-lasting symptoms - known as long-haulers - it's possible that a vaccine could intensify an already aggressive immune response that for many has led to fatigue, muscle aches, trouble breathing, heart palpitations, or difficulty concentrating or sleeping. "It'd be hard to engage a long-hauler in [a vaccine] study if they're having ongoing health problems," Natalie Lambert, an associate professor of medicine at Indiana University, told Business Insider. "Ethically there'd be big problems with having them take a vaccine, if you're worried about those effects." Moderna did not include people who already had COVID-19 in its clinical trials. Pfizer, however, didn't screen participants for evidence of a prior coronavirus infection during its late-stage clinical trial. So it turned out that 3% of participants had been infected before. The data indicated the vaccine was just as effective in this group, but the FDA review said there wasn't enough evidence to know whether the vaccine prevented reinfection. Ellerin said it would be unwise to inoculate previously infected people without more safety data. https://news.yahoo.com/pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-safe-most-215119152.html @Sunshine State Mozda bude bitno.

Koliko sam skontala prvi i treci su teze, jer je prvi hospitalizovan na kratko, epinefrin i slicno, i treca je otpustena nakon 6 sati u bolnici, samo za drugog kazu "mild".

Na Aljasci vec treci slucaj alergijske reakcije. Ali videcemo kako ce sad Moderna da krene.

Teske su vam mere. Mi imali vise mera u septembru kad su bile najlakse....

Nadjoh sad text....mozda je vise adekvatno ovde jer se tu vodila rasprava o efektima, pocinjemo da dobijamo prve konkretne brojke Deaths attributed to other causes above normal Diabetes :15% above normal Alzheimer’s disease and dementia: 12% High blood pressure: 11% Pneumonia and flu: 11% Coronary heart disease: 6% Stroke: 5% Sepsis: 4% Kidney failure: 1% Note: Data are from March 15 to Nov. 14. Not all causes are included. Deaths from external causes, such as suicides and drug overdoses, are not available because investigations are still underway in most cases. Dr. Woolf also warned that many people who are not captured in mortality statistics may still have adverse health outcomes. “A person who survived the pandemic may end up deteriorating over the next few years because of problems that happened during the pandemic,” he said. This could include those who have missed routine checkups or have had delays in receiving proper treatment for an ailment. 2020 Was Especially Deadly. Covid Wasn’t the Only Culprit.

Pa svejedno, generalno Sr ima losije prosecno zdravstveno stanje populacije, zato sto ima lose zdravstvo i uslove. Ali verovatno si u pravu i da lakse hospitalizuju i da imaju vise zarazenih nego sto prijavljuju. Mislim da se radi o kombinaciji. Tako si imala da u Italiji ima vise umrlih, zbog vise prosecne starosti populacije.

Treba uzeti u obzir i verovatno losije stanje zdravlja u SR nego u Holandiji. Ali potpuno si u pravu, nesto tu ne stima. Verovatno ima mnogo vise zarazenih ali ljudi sa blagim simptomima se mozda i ne testiraju.

Pokusavam da odlucim da li da te mrzim ili obozavam.....

I ne znaci da ako budu imali vise nego sto im treba da nece donirati neke. Tako da je sva prica o zlom zapadu besmislena.

Stvarno si razocaran sto su zemlje koje su finansirale vakcinu, obezbedile prvo sebe? Sta si u stvari ocekivao? To je veoma prosto, zabranis ljudima socijalni kontakt koji imaju u prodavnicama i restoranima, oni se sabiju u privatne kuce. A tu se virus siri brze nego u restoranima i prodavnicama.

@zoran59 Drvece nije palo, imamo struju, videcemo kako je ujutru, ali sve je zaledjeno. imamo mozda 4-6 incha snega. Sneg nije problem, led jeste. Kad god se ovo desi setim se one grtalice u Kanadi Pozz

Svasta se danas naziva relativizacija, cak i ukazivanje na cinjenice. Procitah negde text o excess death u US i nekom ispitavanju koliko je povecana smrtnost od drugih oboljenja - onih od kojih su ljudi umirali jer nemaju pristup zdravstvu. I u tom textu pisu "nije da hocemo da umanjimo vaznost smrti od corone ali pogledajmo cifre". O tome ne sme da se prica da ne bi bila "relativizacija". Ova cifra umrlih od gladi je posebno tragicna.

Za sada sedimo i gledamo kako pada, nesto izmedju snega i leda. Nadam se da nece mnogo da nas zatrpa, a rekli su da mozemo ostati beze struje sto bi bilo strasno - ako krene drvece da pada i slicno.

Mislim da to nemaju, za sada ce vakcine biti samo za zdravstvene radnike i staracke domove.

Ali ja sam legalna....