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Koliko ova Navratilova lupeta gluposti... Trenuto ide tirada oko toga sto je RG poceo u nedelju, dan ranije nego tradicionlano. Kuka kako su eto igraci morali prethodne sedmice da igraju finale turnira koji su igrali u petak , kako su Francuzi prvo kao rekli: samo cemo staviti nekoliko meceva u nedelju, nekoliko Francuza, a sad su siroti igrci iznenadjeni jer je toliko meceva stavljeno. Pa jos neki imaju sad 2 dana pauzu... Zena je totalno odlepila... Da ne pricam o standardnom: kad sam ja igrala to je bilo ... "da sam ja Bagnis ja bih sad predala mec..." sad je iznenadjena da Medvedev tako dobro prica francuski... a od sve frke da se ne promovisu Rusi, sad komentator kaze: Rus vodi 2 : 0 u setovima"...
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https://www.eurosport.com/tennis/roland-garros/2022/novak-djokovic-criticises-wimbledon-for-wrong-decision-over-russian-and-belarusian-player-ban_sto8938885/story.shtml NOVAK DJOKOVIC CRITICISES WIMBLEDON FOR 'WRONG DECISION' OVER RUSSIAN AND BELARUSIAN PLAYER BAN Novak Djokovic will be defending champion at Wimbledon this summer, but he will not have the chance to retain his 2,000 ranking points at the tournament. The ATP and WTA tours stripped ranking points from Wimbledon after Russian and Belarusian players were banned from playing following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Djokovic says a lack of communication from Wimbledon to players didn't help. BY JAMES WALKER-ROBERTS UPDATED 24/05/2022 AT 01:03 GMT+2 Novak Djokovic has criticised Wimbledon for making the “wrong decision” in banning Russian and Belarusian players – and says there were other options available. Wimbledon went against most other tennis tournaments by deciding to ban players from Russia and Belarus player following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. In a statement, Wimbledon said they had "no viable alternative within the framework of the UK government's position". The decision has led to the ATP and WTA tours stripping Wimbledon of ranking points. That means Djokovic will also not have the chance to retain 2,000 points as defending champion. Asked about Wimbledon’s decision after his first-round win over Yoshihito Nishioka at the French Open, Djokovic said: “On a personal level without getting a chance to play and defend my 4,000 points I'm going to drop this year [from] Australia and Wimbledon… I have been very negatively affected by that. “But I have been speaking with management and the president of ATP and some of the council members actually in the last few days. I think collectively I'm glad that players got together with ATP, the governing body of the men's tennis, and showed to the Grand Slam that when there is a mistake happening, and there was from the Wimbledon side, then we have to show that there is going to be some consequences. Henman surprised by 'pumped-up' Djokovic McEnroe challenges Henman over Wimbledon ban “So I support the players, unification always. I have always done that. I will always do that. Of course it's up to Wimbledon or LTA [Lawn Tennis Association], whoever was making that decision to make that decision. “But I didn't know, for example, a few days ago I found out that there was a document of recommendation from the English government towards the All England Club and where they had several options. There was not only one on the table. They haven't discussed it with anybody from ATP or any individual players or for that matter Russian or Belarusian players to just communicate and understand whether there is a common ground where both sides could be making a compromise and something could work out. So I think it was a wrong decision.” The move by Wimbledon means the likes of Daniil Medvedev, Andrey Rublev and Aryna Sabalenka will not play the third Grand Slam of the year. Djokovic says it is a “very unique and weird situation” that was made worse by was a lack of “communication” by Wimbledon. “It's a super sensitive subject, and anything that you decide, it's unfortunately going to create a lot of conflict, a lot of separation instead of unification. “I think that they could have taken into consideration -- for example I heard there was some recommendations coming also from WTA and ATP that possibly men's and women's players from Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia could play together some exhibition event during the Slam or something like this or somebody could play mixed doubles and prize money could go to the victims in Ukraine, and stuff like this. There was different ideas, but there was never really, unfortunately, a strong communication coming from Wimbledon. That's why I think it's just wrong. “Whether there was, and there is, a better solution than just taking away the points and not allowing players to earn points or defend points, because they have two groups of players that are [not] going to - everyone is affected. So for me or for the guys that did well last year, we are not only not going to have chance to earn points but we can't defend them. There are some guys that obviously are not going to have a chance to earn points. Of course it's a very unique and weird situation, I must say.” Four-time Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka has said she may not play Wimbledon as it will feel like an “exhibition” event without ranking points. However, Djokovic suggested that he still plans to defend his title. “Of course a Grand Slam is still Grand Slam. Wimbledon for me was always my dream tournament when I was a child. I don't look at it through the lens of points or prize money. For me, it's something else. But again, there has to be some standards or criteria, some respect, mutual respect, I think. “I think maybe there is always going to be some groups of players that are going to be affected more negatively, and they are going to complain more. It's hard, really. It's hard to say what is right, what is wrong. This is one of these kind of decisions and situations where is always going to be someone that will suffer more. It's kind of, I would say, lose-lose situation for everyone.” Ozmo na srpskom: https://sportklub.rs/tenis/grand-slam/roland-garros/novak-vimbldon-je-mogao-i-drugacije-da-postupi/
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"I have spoken yesterday to the ATP president, they are still trying to talk (with Wimbledon). I feel that it is crucial for players to come together. Not every player is in support of this decision..." "... I have heard that there are 30 players, maybe even more, who are planning to do something and communicate with the ATP. A lot of players did not seem to like the decision, but the structure in tennis is like that - I know..." "... I have been a part of the Council for ten years, I have been the president…. A member of the Council can justify his decision by saying: You chose me, don’t complain now because I am making decisions the way I feel it’s right..." .I don’t think this system works for the players, that is why the @ptpaplayers was found. I really believe that PTPA will get stronger with time, even though now nobody recognizes us, we are not given any credibility, nobody wants us in this ecosystem... "...We have no role in the negotiations, the only thing we can do is to put out statements, like we did on several big topics. But the fact is that others don’t want to speak to us despite PTPA membership being a few hundred players, both male and female..." "... It’s a process to unite the players, that is why I support these kinds of decisions, but again, not every player does. It is an individual sport, there is always going to be a difference of opinion..." "... I feel that the ATP could have found some middle ground as well. They could have stripped the points for this year, like they did, but they could have frozen the points from last year, just like it was the case during the pandemics..." . This way, it is very unfair towards me and other players who have done well last year at Wimbledon. Personally, my points are fading away, 4.000 points lost because of politics." Strong statement from Djokovic about the points cancellation. "I'm glad that the players got together with ATP and the governing bodies. It shows to the Grand Slams that when there is a mistake - there was from Wimbledon side - that there will be consequences." "I've always supported the players unification. That's up to Wimbledon, the LTA to take decisions but I've discovered a few days ago that there were recommandations from the UK government to the All England club..." there were several options on the table and they haven't discussed it with anybody from the ATP or any individual player." "For that matter, Russian and Belarussian players coult communicate, see if there were a common ground where both sides could male compromises and something could work out." "There has to be some standards, criterias and mutual respect. It's hard to say what is right, what is wrong. This is one of these situations where one will suffer more. It's a lose-lose situation for everyone".
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u komentarima se Raficini fanovi odusevili njime kako je poliglota elem, prvo je Rafica rekao da je poceo da se bavi jogom i meditacijom Rafael Nadal: 'I practice yoga and meditation to be able...' https://www.tennisworldusa.org/tennis/news/Rafael_Nadal/104386/rafael-nadal-i-practice-yoga-and-meditation-to-be-able-/ How Yoga Helped Rafael Nadal Win The Australian Open 2022 https://www.uluyoga.com/how-yoga-helped-rafael-nadal-win-the-australian-open-2022/ a samo godinu dana ranije je izjavio ovo: https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-not-yoga-not-psychologists-rafael-nadal-denies-mental-training-practice/ “Not Yoga, Not Psychologists” – Rafael Nadal Denies Mental Training Practice sad poceo da imitira Novaka i oko jezika i glumi poliglotu . Ako mu joga ide kao jezici... ah da, ima i ono gde je relativno skoro rekao da je poceo da jede urme kao energetsku dopunu (ono sto Novak uvek jede iz one posudice tokom mmeceva, a ostali igraci banane).
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bila je neka lista na kraju prosle godine koliko je ko puta testiran na turnirima a koliko van turnira. Nadal je imao najmanji broj testiranja, ako se ne varam samo 2 testa kad se nije takmicio, a on je od jula prosle godine bio kod kuce. Znaci, mogao je da se pumpa kojim god je hteo sredstvima za "regeneraciju", ako spanska antidoping agencija ne praktikuje da testira svoje sportiste, a i to kad radi onda najavi, onda nije ni cudo sto se Rafica tako magicno oporavlja od naprsnuca rebara, bolova u stopalu i slicnih "povredica". Delpo nije uspeo da se oporavi, Tim i dalje ima problema, samo Raficini lekari su cudotvorci. A bas me zanima da li je i sad dobio ono terapeutsko izuzece (kao prethodnih godina kad je odsustvovao zbog povreda) i cime se sve spricao prethodne sedmice (pa kako to utice na performans).
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ma djubrad novinarska nije ni rec rekla na Nadalovo "nemanje misljenja" a sutra ce da osvanu naslovi kako je Novak popljuvao Wimbldon.
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ja sam se juce takodje iznenadila kad su Alcaraza intervjuisali na spanskom (takodje Koreca) - u sred Francuske! mislim, mogli su Ozma da nahvataju da Novaka intervjuise na srpskom ili Igu na poljskom (sigurno ima tamo neki poljski novinar). Inace, Iga odlicno prica engelski, a mnoooooogo je mladja od Nadala - 15 godina - (i ipak nekako uspela da nauci engleski kako treba, iako njen maternji poljski nije ni priblizno slican engleskom). Da ne pricam o tome kako npr. Bublik takodje odlicno prica engelski (a covek Rus i mnogo mladji (11 godina) od Nadala), itd. itd. Cini i se da sam i Badosu slusala da sasvim solidno prica engleski.
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@double fault @ciao mozete da prevedete sta je on ovde rekao i na kom jeziku?
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Koliko sam ja pratila Balazs vec duze vreme uopste ne igra, usao na RG s PR.
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Kecmanovic nekako porodi pobedu. koliko sma ispratila (ne bas previse pazljivo) imao je sijaset bejkova koje nije sacuvao.
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ma predlog je potekao od njega (i, prema Brigsu, Federera), a sad se pravi blesav i nece da prizna u javnosti. a glup je toliko da ne moze da smisli neki iole elokventniji odgovor. kog klinca trazi u PC? kog klinca je onomad kukao kako zaboga njega nisu licno zvali iz PC da ga konsultuju oko Kermodea (pa se onda ceo "progresivni" teniski "novinarski" svet obrusio na tadasnji PC i kako su se usudili da se ne konsultuju s dve najuitcajnije i najvaznije osobe u svetu tenisa oko tako bitne stvari kao sto je produzenje ugovora tadasnjem CEO)? tad je imao "misljenje" i nije se ustrucavao da ga iznese u javnosti. ima i misljenje kad prica ko je "opsednut" rekordima i osvajanjem titula (za razliku od njega skromnog i skrusenog koji eto samo igra jer voli da igra , po cenu da se nakljuka lekovima protiv nesnosnih bolova u stopalu, uprkos polomljenim rebrima i kojim jos sve ne povredama koje ima! ma da! ). imao je misljenje kad je priao kako on eto potice iz fine i kulturne porodice koja neguje prave vrednosti "za razliku od nekih". i o jos nekim stvarima je imao misljenje, ali o onome sto bi trebalo da mu je u "opisu posla" - ne, tu nema misljenje! neverovatno koliko su poslednje 2 godine otkrile koliko je djubre.
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on jadan izigrava fikus dok leci nogu - uvek je neko drugi kriv/nadlezan kad se ne radi o njegovim interesima, nikad nije on! kog klinca je u PC ako nema ni o cemu misljenje? lepo ja rekoh: teletabis .
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ovaj italijanski teniser je rodjen u Argentini. od 2020 predstavlja Italiju. Bio suspendovan od 2019-2020 zbog dopinga (10 meseci).
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pa to kao sto i Rusija ima, pa onda Putin ide malo bude predsednik, pa kad mu prodju dva mandata onda bude malo premijer i tako u krug. demokraCki.
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da treba reorganizovati ceo teniski svet i uvesti red - treba. Ali mora da i u postojecoj strukturi postoje neki pravilnici i "ugovori" koji podlezu nekim zakonima "civilnog sveta", te ne mogu tek tako da ponistavaju stvari iz ugovora. Ipak su oni neka "pravna lica" ili kako se to vec zove, koja su registrovana negde i posluju u realnom svetu (placaju poreze negde) koji je uredjen nekim pravilima poslovanja. Ne znam samo koja drzava je nadlezna za tenis, USA ili UK (gde bi trebalo da se vode sporovi), gde su oficijelno prijavljeni kao neki andrak u teniskoj strukturi. Nesto mi se cini da su za ATP nadlezni sudovi u USA (i mozda u UK). Ali definitivno mora da neki "lokalni" sud na teritoriji drzave gde se "obavlja posao" mora da bude nadlezan za povredu ugovora ili kako se to sve pravno zove. Mislim da sam negde procitala da je kao WTA savetovala igracice kako mogu da zatraze pravnu pomoc protiv Wimbldona, ali ne verujem da je taj savet bio nesto specijalno koristan (kao sto ni u Australiji nije bilo koristi od tzv. pravne pomoci koju su ceskoj teniserki "ponudili" AO/teniski savez Australije ili ko vec). problem je izgleda da su svi upetljani u mnogo stosta do guse, verovatno jedni druge drze za gusu, te se ni ne pokrece neki pravni postupak van "sistema" da se gluposti raspetljaju. sto se tice ITF, oni su suspendovali ruski i beloruski savez (naravno, odluka nije bila jednoglasna, ali je bilo dovoljno saveza koji su glasali za tu odluku).
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pa oni imaju diskreciono praavo da u clanstvo kluba prime koga hoce, ali nemaju diskreciono pravo da biraju koga bi da puste da igra turnir jer je za to potpisan "ugovor", postoji pravilnik. Takodje, bilo je svojevremeno nekih problema s dobijanjem vize, mislim Kuznjecove i Davidenka, pa su na intervenciju WTA/ATP organi u UK i USA ipak izdali vizu. To je sve medjusobno povezano. Postoje neki ugovori s zemljama koje organizuju turnire u medjunarodnom takmicenju, nije to kao kad ti, ja ili neko peti resi onako da ode i malo radi u UK/USA itd.
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Wawrinka izdrzao samo 1. set, Lajovic opet brljavi, Fritz u 5. setu. Nadal rutinira (ne boli ga noga ocigledno).
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pa valjda postoji neki "ugovor" izmedju GSova i ATP/WTA kojim jedni garantuju jedno (da ce im "iznajmiti" radnike), a drugi drugo (da ce ti radnici biti tretirani fer), pa kad jedna strana prekrsi ugovor onda slede i kazne. Plus u UK koliko znam postoje zakoni protiv diskriminacije svake vrste, narocito na poslu, te su i po toj osnovi definitino mogli da tuze Wimbldon (pogotovu sto britanska vlada nije naredila, vec preporucila nekaku reakciju, a i Olimpijski komitet je preporucio samo da Rusi i Belorusi ne igraju pod zastavim zemlje iz koje su, ne da im se oduzme pravo da igraju). Nije valdja da Wimbldon i ostali GSovi mogu da rade sta god im padne na pamet i da nikome ni za sta ne odgovaraju. Na sta bi to licilo? Na neku autokratsku, diktatorsku tvorevinu, zar ne?
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Koje djubre je ova Pam Shriver: sad "predvidja" da ce Krajcikova izeti "cuvenu" wc pauzu kad izgubi ovaj set insinuirajuci nesto neposteno i nefer. A to manje-vise rade svi redom (u okviru dozvoljenog vremena), ali Pam to nikada nece pomenuti za npr. Osaku ili nekog drugog miljenika. Jos pokusava da uvuce Wozniacki (koja s njom komentarise) u pricu i osudu. Ali se Caro nije dala manipulisati
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kod zena su Raducanu, Kontaveit-Tomljanovic i Kerber-Frech postavljene kao 3. na SL, SM i C6, a u donjoj su polovini koja je krenula prva. Mozda neki od tih meceva prebace na PC kad Nadal zavrsi (posto je Iga brzo zavrsila, a evo izgleda i Krajcikova ce). Druge polovine zreba bi onda trebalo sutra da regularno rasporede po svim terenima i ne bi bilo nikakvih posledica za turnir i igrace.
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sto se tice muskog zreba, ima nekoliko meceva gornje polovine zreba koji su kriticni jer nisu postavljeni kao prva 2 na terenima na kojima su. Jedna je Molcan-Coria (3. na C4) - ukrsta se s Novakovim mecom, Korda-Millman (4. na C6) i Harris-Gaske (4. na SM) - koji se ukrstaju. nisam proveravala zenski zreb (ali kod njih je lakse jer se igra na 2 dobijena). grrr.... nije valjda da sam urekla Barboru.
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prosle Andrea i Petra , Anisimova uzbacila Osaku Bianca brljavi (ne gledam vec na osnovu rezultata) - doduse, ne iznenadjuje, ipak ona nije igracica za sljaku. Filip - svaka cast, a mogao je standardno da sve zabrlja i prospe. (bacila pogled tu i tamo na trenutke: Opelka nije mogao servisom da napravi veliku stetu, cim krene poen on ne moze da isprati, ne moze onoliki covek da trci levo-desno i uspesno pogadja unutar terena; a Filip se nije raspao kako ume) kisa... dobro da je Filip zavrsio na vreme.