Darth Bane Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 21 minutes ago, Jonnhy Clash said: Ako ima represije od strane vlasti to je za osudu. Ipak, treba to dokumentovati ozbiljnijim izvorima od wikipedie. Evo šta kaže jedan zapadni medij (meni ni malo simpatičan) o razvoju Kine. Izvod sa Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/09/china-up-to-one-million-detained/ " … The fate of estimated up to one million people is unknown and most of the detainees’ families have been kept in the dark. China has intensified its campaign of mass internment, intrusive surveillance, political indoctrination and forced cultural assimilation against the region’s Uighurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups. Amnesty International has interviewed more than 100 people outside of China whose relatives in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) are still missing, as well as individuals who said they were tortured while in detention camps there..." Ispovest jednog zatocenika logora : " Inside a Detention Camp The authorities label the camps as centres for “transformation-through-education” but most people refer to them simply as “re-education camps”. Those sent to such camps are not put on trial, have no access to lawyers or right to challenge the decision. Individuals could be left to languish in detention for months, as it is the authorities who decide when an individual has been “transformed”. Kairat Samarkan was sent to a detention camp in October 2017, after he returned to the XUAR following a short visit to neighbouring Kazakhstan. Kairat told Amnesty that he was hooded, made to wear shackles on his arms and legs and was forced to stand in a fixed position for 12 hours when first detained. There were nearly 6,000 people held in the same camp, where they were forced to sing political songs and study speeches of the Chinese Communist Party. They could not talk to each other and were forced to chant “Long live Xi Jinping” before meals. Kairat told Amnesty that his treatment drove him to attempt suicide just before his release..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnhy Clash Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Darth Bane said: Izvod sa Amnesty International: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/09/china-up-to-one-million-detained/ " … The fate of estimated up to one million people is unknown and most of the detainees’ families have been kept in the dark. China has intensified its campaign of mass internment, intrusive surveillance, political indoctrination and forced cultural assimilation against the region’s Uighurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups. Amnesty International has interviewed more than 100 people outside of China whose relatives in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) are still missing, as well as individuals who said they were tortured while in detention camps there..." Ispovest jednog zatocenika logora : " Inside a Detention Camp The authorities label the camps as centres for “transformation-through-education” but most people refer to them simply as “re-education camps”. Those sent to such camps are not put on trial, have no access to lawyers or right to challenge the decision. Individuals could be left to languish in detention for months, as it is the authorities who decide when an individual has been “transformed”. Kairat Samarkan was sent to a detention camp in October 2017, after he returned to the XUAR following a short visit to neighbouring Kazakhstan. Kairat told Amnesty that he was hooded, made to wear shackles on his arms and legs and was forced to stand in a fixed position for 12 hours when first detained. There were nearly 6,000 people held in the same camp, where they were forced to sing political songs and study speeches of the Chinese Communist Party. They could not talk to each other and were forced to chant “Long live Xi Jinping” before meals. Kairat told Amnesty that his treatment drove him to attempt suicide just before his release..." Amnesty international je osporavan i kritikovan u dosta zemalja kao neverodostojan i kao organizacija koja zastupa prozapadne stavove. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Amnesty_International Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Trenutno najjaci topic na celom forumu. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnhy Clash Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Trenutno najjaci topic na celom forumu. Naravno. Pa ne diskutuje se o Gibraltaru već u najmnogoljudnijoj državi sveta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hamilton said: Trenutno najjaci topic na celom forumu. Ima najjace i najbolje diskutante! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnhy Clash Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Neko je pomenuo da u Kini nije bilo inovacija u skorije vreme. Da nista nisu izmislili. Ova lista ih demantuje. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions Izmedju ostalog, izmislili su tehniku da celije iz urina pretvaraju u mozdane celije. Ovim sam sokiran i molim nekoga ko se u to razume da to objasni, na kraju liste to pise. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/25407-brain-cells-made-from-pee.html PS. Ljudi ja odoh da radim. Klijenti me već opominju da sam neozbiljan što ne odgovaram da mailove. Tema je zanimljiva ali mora se nešto i zaraditi. Edited November 19, 2019 by Jonnhy Clash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Ja samo da javim sveže vesti iz Tokija: Japanke su mali krivonogi šećeri a Japanci gube od Venecuele 4-0 u prvom poluvremenu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyogi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 To = istok Kyo = grad Tokugawa Iijeyasu je preselio prestonicu iz Kyoto u Tokyo, da bude tamo gde je vojnička baza iz mnogobrojnog stanovništva. Uživaj u Tokyo, veličanstven grad. Živeo sam tamo 3 godine (uz Yoyogi park) a od 2006. idem jednu nedelju mesečno. U tom gradu od 35 miliona stanovnika možeš da uživaš i u simfonijama svaki dan u godini na različitim mestima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Ranije se zvao Edo ako se ne varam. Gledao sam na NG-u dokumentarac o Japanu - prelepa zemlja, prelepa. end off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, Yoyogi said: To = istok Kyo = grad Tokugawa Iijeyasu je preselio prestonicu iz Kyoto u Tokyo, da bude tamo gde je vojnička baza iz mnogobrojnog stanovništva. Uživaj u Tokyo, veličanstven grad. Živeo sam tamo 3 godine (uz Yoyogi park) a od 2006. idem jednu nedelju mesečno. U tom gradu od 35 miliona stanovnika možeš da uživaš i u simfonijama svaki dan u godini na različitim mestima. Mahnuću ti kroz prozor Šinkansena kad budem išao u Osaku. Kyoto je moj dan off za vikend. Tamo nisam nikad bio. U Tokio i Osaku idem redovno... znam da vezanih očiju odem iz hotela u restoran Istanbul u Ginzi na domaću kuhinju... a on je preko puta Tex Mex restorana koji je takodje domaća kuhinja 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyogi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, ObiW said: Mahnuću ti kroz prozor Šinkansena kad budem išao u Osaku. Kyoto je moj dan off za vikend. Tamo nisam nikad bio. U Tokio i Osaku idem redovno... znam da vezanih očiju odem iz hotela u restoran Istanbul u Ginzi na domaću kuhinju... a on je preko puta Tex Mex restorana koji je takodje domaća kuhinja 😂 Shinkansen - that is the way to travel. Uživaj u japanskoj perfekciji kao što ja njoj uživam svaki dan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Pa ako su perfektni, što oni mene zovu da dodjem kod njih da im držim seminar, a ne obrnuto? Divna država za videti, ovo je druga planeta i volim kada me pozovu, ali ne bih ovde živeo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyogi Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, ObiW said: Pa ako su perfektni, što oni mene zovu da dodjem kod njih da im držim seminar, a ne obrnuto? Divna država za videti, ovo je druga planeta i volim kada me pozovu, ali ne bih ovde živeo. U toj perfektnosti ja i moja porodica živimo i prosperiramo. Oni su me direktno zaposlili, ja sam kao Japanac po firminim poslovnim knjigama samo različito ime. Tvoj seminar, šta je da je, neće dovesti ni do čega. Ništa od toga nema, oni nas, i tebe gledaju kao što Amerikanci gledaju na Meksikance. Sad će oni da im drže neke seminare. Nadam se da si došao u biz class, da malo i ti vidiš puta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Ovo nije tema o Japanu. Bas me briga za vas Japan. Edited November 19, 2019 by Darth Bane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Aj malo o Kini: bio sam dva puta. Vidi se da se opako razvijaju, i prihvataju svoje inžinjere koji su se školovali i radili godinama u Americi pa se vratili. Od onih koji su sve vreme proveli u Kini, ako govore engleski, govore bolje od kolega Japanaca. Kreativniji su nego Japanci, takva im kultura. Medjutim, da me neko pita da bitam gde ću na službeni put, uvek bih pre izabrao Japan. Kulturniji, organizovaniji, ljubazniji. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 9 hours ago, Yoyogi said: U toj perfektnosti ja i moja porodica živimo i prosperiramo. Oni su me direktno zaposlili, ja sam kao Japanac po firminim poslovnim knjigama samo različito ime. Tvoj seminar, šta je da je, neće dovesti ni do čega. Ništa od toga nema, oni nas, i tebe gledaju kao što Amerikanci gledaju na Meksikance. Sad će oni da im drže neke seminare. Nadam se da si došao u biz class, da malo i ti vidiš puta. Drž se tog tvog L3 on call customer supporta od kuće i ne pametuj o nečemu što ti nije struka. Japanci još uvek koriste Excel spreadsheet i merenja na terenu da projektuju mobilne mreže, jer tradicija. Čak je i Bliski Istok ukapirao da to tako više ne može, a oni jok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 37 minutes ago, ObiW said: Drž se tog tvog L3 on call customer supporta od kuće i ne pametuj o nečemu što ti nije struka. Japanci još uvek koriste Excel spreadsheet i merenja na terenu da projektuju mobilne mreže, jer tradicija. Čak je i Bliski Istok ukapirao da to tako više ne može, a oni jok. On voli tako da spusta svakog na forumu. A Japanci su po njemu neka rasa nadnaravna?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down With The Sickness Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ObiW said: Drž se tog tvog L3 on call customer supporta od kuće i ne pametuj o nečemu što ti nije struka. Japanci još uvek koriste Excel spreadsheet i merenja na terenu da projektuju mobilne mreže, jer tradicija. Čak je i Bliski Istok ukapirao da to tako više ne može, a oni jok. Auuuuuuu ....... ugasio si, ovo ti nece zaboraviti 😂 ............... ocekuje se da japanska imperija uzvrati udarac. On taman krenuo sa nekim pan-azijatskim nastupom, "una faccia, una razza", a ti si mu poyebo koncepciju totalno, srusio kockice. Sto bi rekli "uneo si razdor" @Yoyogi ..... reaguj ...... Edited November 19, 2019 by Denis Jasharevic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyogi Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Kakav L3 support, ja sam senior manager od početka. Kakvo projektovanje mreža, 5G? Docomo mobilna telefonija je 45 milijardi dolara biznis, kao celi nacionalni dohodak Srbije. Ili više nego što je Nokia imala u svojim najboljim danima u 160 zemalja sveta svezajedno. Ne znam šta bi neki stranac njima mogao da projektuje. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, Yoyogi said: Kakav L3 support, ja sam senior manager od početka. Kakvo projektovanje mreža, 5G? Docomo mobilna telefonija je 45 milijardi dolara biznis, kao celi nacionalni dohodak Srbije. Ili više nego što je Nokia imala u svojim najboljim danima u 160 zemalja sveta svezajedno. Ne znam šta bi neki stranac njima mogao da projektuje. Alo, koga je briga sta ti radis u Dzapen?!!? Alo, moderacija? Uporno dokazujes kako si veoma uspesan covek u Japanu. Ona se ljutis kad neko nesto potegne iz tvog privatnog zivota - nesto o cemu si ti vec nasiroko pisao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 http://falunau.org/2019/11/india-dafoh-awarded-mother-teresa-memorial-award-for-exposing-crimes-of-forced-organ-harvesting-in-china/ " Dr. Torsten Trey, Executive Director of the NGO Doctors Against Forced Organ Harvesting (DAFOH), received the prestigious 2019 Mother Teresa Memorial Award for Social Justice at an event hosted by the Harmony Foundation at Taj Land’s End, Mumbai, on November 3, 2019. The program was well attended by other prominent award winners, Consuls General, CEOs, and celebrities. The award recognised over a decade of work to create awareness of the Chinese regime’s forced organ harvesting from Falun Gong practitioners and other prisoners of conscience. …. Speaking about the origin of DAFOH, Dr. Trey said, “Back in 2006 I heard for the first time that Falun Gong practitioners in China were killed for the purpose of harvesting their organs and that those organs were used for profitable transplants. I was shocked and, as a physician, felt the need to do something. But I also felt overwhelmed: What can one person do? How can one doctor’s voice stop this abusive practice? This is how I came to realize that I would need to found an organization to amplify my voice. This led to the foundation of DAFOH. Over the past 13 years, many doctors have joined and extended their support. The growth of DAFOH shows that the voice of a single person matters and can change the world....” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiW Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Yoyogi said: Kakav L3 support, ja sam senior manager od početka. Kakvo projektovanje mreža, 5G? Docomo mobilna telefonija je 45 milijardi dolara biznis, kao celi nacionalni dohodak Srbije. Ili više nego što je Nokia imala u svojim najboljim danima u 160 zemalja sveta svezajedno. Ne znam šta bi neki stranac njima mogao da projektuje. Jeste, senior manager koji radi od kuce za Japance. Ti si glorified senior Sanjay iz Bombaja koji sedi kući na call suportu. Daj Bože da ti je plata 250 hiljada rupija godišnje a ne 250 hiljada dolara. Kad smo već kod NTT Docomo, išli smo u prosle godine u NTT research lab, to je Bogu iza nogu van Tokija, sat i kusur metroom, pa onda lokalni gradski bus. Ulaze Japanci na sastanak, kad ono medju njima jedan Indijac. Ko je ovaj? Kazu “ovo nam je menadzer”. Priča tečno japanski, doktorirao ovde, objavljuje radove, postrojava japansku boraniju. Ako, i treba im ambiciozan stranac da ih malo prodrma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnhy Clash Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Just now, ObiW said: Jeste, senior manager koji radi od kuce za Japance. Ti si glorified senior Sanjay iz Bombaja koji sedi kući na call suportu. Daj Bože da ti je plata 250 hiljada rupija godišnje a ne 250 hiljada dolara. Kad smo već kod NTT Docomo, išli smo u prosle godine u NTT research lab, to je Bogu iza nogu van Tokija, sat i kusur metroom, pa onda lokalni gradski bus. Ulaze Japanci na sastanak, kad ono medju njima jedan Indijac. Ko je ovaj? Kazu “ovo nam je menadzer”. Priča tečno japanski, doktorirao ovde, objavljuje radove, postrojava japansku boraniju. Ako, i treba im ambiciozan stranac da ih malo prodrma. Čekaj ObiW. Yoyogi je od starta imao korektnu komunikaciju sa tobom. Čemu to potcenjivanje? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bane Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 hours ago, ObiW said: Jeste, senior manager koji radi od kuce za Japance. Ti si glorified senior Sanjay iz Bombaja koji sedi kući na call suportu. Daj Bože da ti je plata 250 hiljada rupija godišnje a ne 250 hiljada dolara. Kad smo već kod NTT Docomo, išli smo u prosle godine u NTT research lab, to je Bogu iza nogu van Tokija, sat i kusur metroom, pa onda lokalni gradski bus. Ulaze Japanci na sastanak, kad ono medju njima jedan Indijac. Ko je ovaj? Kazu “ovo nam je menadzer”. Priča tečno japanski, doktorirao ovde, objavljuje radove, postrojava japansku boraniju. Ako, i treba im ambiciozan stranac da ih malo prodrma. I ko bi drugi nego - Hindus! Bravo! I treba neko da postrojava tu japansku buraniju! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnhy Clash Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Darth Bane said: I ko bi drugi nego - Hindus! Bravo! I treba neko da postrojava tu japansku buraniju! Ma idi Bane. Da nije Hindusa bilo Japanci bi jos živeli u feudalnom društvu sa carem na čelu i samurajima. Da ne znam da si do sada uglavnom pisao ozbiljne postove pomislio bih da troluješ. Edited November 20, 2019 by Jonnhy Clash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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