erwin Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras kass Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Kazakhstan objavio da napusta okdb od naredne godine. Azerbejdzan granatirao fsb bazu. UJermeniji protesti premijera jer planira da potpise mirovni sporszum koji protestanti nszivaju izdajom. Neko puskaranje izmedju Tadzikistana I Kirgistana. Pojma nemam o cemu se tu radi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwin Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ras kass said: Kazakhstan objavio da napusta okdb od naredne godine. Demantovano. U vezi s Kazahstanom, čiji predsednik Tokajev dosta solira u odnosu na Rusiju u zadnje vreme, zanimljivije je to da je Si Đinping danas rekao da Kina podržava njegov teritorijalni integritet: Quote China warns against meddling in Kazakhstan ahead of Putin meetingIt sounded like Xi Jinping was warning Putin against any adventures in Central Asia.Chinese President Xi Jinping has kicked off a visit to Central Asia with a no-nonsense statement of support for the territorial integrity of his first host country, Kazakhstan. It sounded like an assertive statement of intent from Beijing, coming just before Xi meets Russian President Vladimir Putin this week in a face to face that the world is watching closely. Russian-ally Kazakhstan has been shaken by the Kremlin’s invasion of Ukraine, while facing down saber-rattling from Russian nationalists angry at what they deem Kazakh disloyalty over the war. After meeting President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev in Kazakhstan’s capital, Xi made it clear that Beijing would not tolerate any encroachments on Kazakhstan’s territory. “I would like to assure you that the government of China pays huge attention to relations with Kazakhstan,” he said, in remarks quoted in Russian in Tokayev’s office’s readout of the meeting. “However the international situation changes, going forward we will also resolutely support Kazakhstan in the defense of its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity; firmly support the reforms conducted by you to assure stability and development; [and] categorically come out against interference by any forces in the internal affairs of your country.” Given that the most obvious potential threats to Kazakhstan’s territorial integrity emanate from its northern neighbor Russia, Xi’s words looked like a warning to Putin not to meddle in Central Asia, where Russia and China are the two major geopolitical players. “Xi’s visit to Kazakhstan can be seen as a sign that Beijing sees Kazakhstan as a friend – and Russia should not do anything to hurt Beijing’s friend,” Mark Katz, a professor specializing in Russian foreign policy at George Mason University, told the South China Morning Post ahead of Xi’s state visit to Kazakhstan. This was Xi’s first trip outside China since January 2020, in the early days of what became the coronavirus pandemic. He is on his way to neighboring Uzbekistan to participate in a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), a security bloc whose members include, as well as China and Russia, four Central Asian states, India and Pakistan. On the summit sidelines Xi will meet Putin, with whom he declared a “no limits” partnership when they last met in Beijing shortly before Russia invaded Ukraine. China has not condemned Moscow’s aggression, but has blamed the West for stoking tensions. However, it has not provided any sanctions relief to Russia, either. Putin will arrive at the SCO summit looking weakened, after Ukrainian counterattacks forced Russian forces to retreat in recent days. Xi’s shot across the bow in Kazakhstan suggests that Beijing is determined to assert its interests in Central Asia, and make clear to Moscow that it sees the region as its own backyard as well as Russia’s. https://eurasianet.org/china-warns-against-meddling-in-kazakhstan-ahead-of-putin-meeting Edited September 14, 2022 by erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLeod Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) Gruzija izgleda ozbiljno razmatra mogucnost napada na Osetiju i Abhaziju. Deluje da ce ovaj rat ako ne dodje do nuklearne katastrofe znaciti i potpuni raspad Rusije i njenog uticaja i u Evropi i u Aziji. Samo mi cemo vagati da budemo potpuno sigurni. Edited September 15, 2022 by McLeod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrediB Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just now, McLeod said: Gruzija izgleda ozbiljno razmatra mogucnost napada na Osetiju i Abhaziju. Nije im to najpametnije, Rusija ipak cak i sada kada je zaglavljena u Ukrajini uvek moze da posalje odredjen broj trupa u Gruziju a i npr. one kadirovljeve razbojnike i koljace. Spominju se cak i nekakvi Severnokorejci u ruskoj sluzbi. Just now, McLeod said: Samo mi cemo vagati da budemo potpuno sigurni. Nije to vaganje, vec nesto drugo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Wins Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 On 9/13/2022 at 10:58 AM, Klotzen said: Zelena strelica na krajnjem jugu Jermenije je gde bi Azeri trebali da sagrade auto put koji bi imao neki vid autonomije (ne pitajte me kako put ima autonomiju) a za bezbedost bi bili odgovorni Rusi. Wtf? 😄 mora da se spremi pasos ako hoces da operes noge pored puta? 2 hours ago, McLeod said: Samo mi cemo vagati da budemo potpuno sigurni. Vucic sad sedi i plače jer nije uveo sankcije Rusiji, sad i da ih uvede, to je kao da prelazis u partizane iz četnika nakon sremskog fronta. Gde si bio juče, niko vise nece da ga smatra za ozbiljno. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwin Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, McLeod said: Gruzija izgleda ozbiljno razmatra mogucnost napada na Osetiju i Abhaziju. Demantovano. Quote A senior Georgian MP who suggested holding a referendum to confirm whether the people want the country to go to war with Russia says he put forward the idea in jest. “There was sarcasm and some irony in the statement,” Irakli Kobakhidze, who leads the parliamentary faction of the Georgian Dream party, said in a TV interview on Wednesday evening. The party is part of the ruling coalition. The proposal to hold a referendum on war came earlier this week, when the MP dismissed calls by Ukrainian officials, including the chair of the Ukrainian National Security Council, who suggested that Tbilisi could seize the moment and open a “second front” against Moscow. (...) In an interview with Rustavi2 TV, the MP said that opinion polls and studies have backed the government’s position that the people do not want to renew hostilities with Russia. This could change under certain circumstances, Kobakhidze added, but at the moment, Georgians realize that a war with Russia would pit them against people in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, making the conflict fratricidal. “We must not allow any war in which Georgians and Abkhazians and Georgians and Ossetians would face each other with weapons in their hands again,” he said. https://www.rt.com/russia/562821-georgia-war-russia-referendum/ Edited September 15, 2022 by erwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras kass Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ide Nensi u Jermeniju https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cease-fire-continues-to-hold-between-armenia-azerbaijan/2022/09/16/cc232a2c-35a4-11ed-a0d6-415299bfebd5_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klotzen Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 U Gruziji juče žestoki protesti. Vlada uvodi zakon sličan Putinovom po kom se mediji koji primaju novac iz inostranstva moraju označiti kao strani agenti. Gruzijci su 80% za EU i odma je organizovan spontani protest. Predsednica je podržala protestante. Na vlasti su trenutno populisti koji neodoljivo podsećaju na Janukoviča a pomalo i na našeg faraona. Na papiru su za NATO i EU a sve što rade ih udaljava od tog cilja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gistro Bančo Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Klotzen said: U Gruziji juče žestoki protesti. Vlada uvodi zakon sličan Putinovom po kom se mediji koji primaju novac iz inostranstva moraju označiti kao strani agenti. Gruzijci su 80% za EU i odma je organizovan spontani protest. Predsednica je podržala protestante. Na vlasti su trenutno populisti koji neodoljivo podsećaju na Janukoviča a pomalo i na našeg faraona. Na papiru su za NATO i EU a sve što rade ih udaljava od tog cilja. https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara Ne znam postoji li neka razlika u samom zakonu. Nategnuto je bas tvrditi da je to proruski zakon. Edited March 8, 2023 by Gistro Bančo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valensija Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Spontani protest.😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klotzen Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Gistro Bančo said: https://www.justice.gov/nsd-fara Ne znam postoji li neka razlika u samom zakonu. Nategnuto je bas tvrditi da je to proruski zakon. Postoji jer dobijaš prilepak strani agent. Pogotovo što je u ex SSSR strani agent = izdajnik. Takođe merilo nije koliko novca si dobio iz inostranstva nego šta radiš. Takođe ovaj zakon je u SAD u vezi sa lobiranjem u politici što je kod njih dozvoljeno pa sa ovim zakonom reguliše sitaucija kada strana vlada preko nekog želi da utiče na njihovu politiku. U Rusiji je zakon uperen na to da uništi poverenje stanovnika u medije koji kritikuju vlast jer to su uglavnom mediji koji dobijaju novac iz instranstva. 2011. je bio ogroman protest u Moskvi sa preko 100k ljudi što je i povod da krene da uništava medije i opoziciju. Sa tim zakonom su praktično pozatvarali sve nevladine organizacije, prva na meti im je bila jedna koja je pratila izbore, a znamo zašto su takve opasne za Putina. Zajedno sa njima uništio je manje više sve medije koji nisu pisali kako on želi. Ovi u Gruziji ulaze u ogromne probleme, kritikuju ih svi redom i veoma je upitno zašto donose takav zakon. @Valensija Ko je organizovao protest ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valensija Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 @Klotzen Saznacemo za par godina. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLeod Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Svidja mi se kako je ovakav protest, po mom misljenju (sa kojim se niko ne mora sloziti, naravno), potpuno normalan i potpuno je zdravorazumski verovati da je spontan, "organizovan od stranih sluzbi", dok nasi protesti kao ovaj sad recimo "studenti za Kosovo" ili kako vec uopste nije udbaski, potpuno je spontan. Ili ono litijasenje po Crnoj Gori, bas grassroots, uopste nisu udbasi iz crkve i van nje, kao i strani faktor iz Rusije i Srbije ocigledno umesali prste. Ali naravno to se za takve bogougodne i "patriotske" proteste nikad nece reci. Istina je zapravo tragikomicna, sve price koje dolaze o false flagovima, uticaju stranih sila, korupciji i placanju sa zapada su 90% cista rusko-kineska propaganda, dok se oni 100% bave tim stvarima uvek i svuda. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrediB Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Cujem da i veprina dodik sprema takav zakon u RS. Pitanje je vremena kada ce i vucler doneti tako nesto ovde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djura.net Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, FrediB said: Pitanje je vremena kada ce i vucler doneti tako nesto ovde. Onda kad definitvno raskrsti sa Evropom. Borelj je ozbiljno upozoriju Gruziju I Gruzijce da je taj zakon u potpunoj suprotnosti sa evropskom agendom I da ce njegovo usvajanje biti signal da je Gruzija napustila evropski put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klotzen Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Danas novi protest izgleda : Opet neredi : Protestantni pokušavaju da uđu u skupštinu. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrediB Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Zadrigli ''domacini'' i ostala Sveta Vecina Naroda Dobrog sirom interneta i RL u stilu: sOrOs OcE dA rUsI uStaVnI pOrEdAk GrUzIjE. Edited March 8, 2023 by FrediB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maharaja Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Zadrigli ''domacini'' i ostala Sveta Vecina Naroda Dobrog sirom interneta i RL u stilu: sOrOs OcE dA rUsI uStaVnI pOrEdAk GrUzIjE.Pa ne možeš ti Srbina zajebati. Zna on ko je iza protesta. Zna on koja je to zavera. A 'saznaće se za par godina'. CIA snajka, CIA! Soroš, Vatikan, i NATO! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Vasa Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Pobeda demonstranata u Gruziji: Povlači se zakon o medijima kao stranim agentima Izgleda da su u Gruziji baš efikasni po nekim pitanjima. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McLeod Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Ma Soros platio. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorodicneVrijednosti Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Samo Amfilohije moze povest iskrene i spontane proteste, svi ostali su CIA/NATO/USA/UK podmetacina 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klotzen Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Onaj snimak gde vodenim topom gađaju ženu sa EU zastavom u zemlji gde preko 80% želi u EU je pucanje sebi u nogu : Ovo će ih koštati na sledećim izborima. Treba da dođu ovde kod faraona da nauče kako biti za EU a raditi sve da u nju nikad ne uđete. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronostime Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Klotzen said: Onaj snimak gde vodenim topom gađaju ženu sa EU zastavom u zemlji gde preko 80% želi u EU je pucanje sebi u nogu : Ovo će ih koštati na sledećim izborima. Treba da dođu ovde kod faraona da nauče kako biti za EU a raditi sve da u nju nikad ne uđete. To je mislio i Sakasvili onomad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Vasa Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, Klotzen said: Onaj snimak gde vodenim topom gađaju ženu sa EU zastavom u zemlji gde preko 80% želi u EU je pucanje sebi u nogu : Divim se ovima u Gruziji koliko imaju svest o nekim stvarima. Nije u pitanju protest sam po sebi, već to što imaju građane koji imaju svest šta hoće. Ja ne bih mogao da zamislim proteste sa zastavom EU, kojih odavno nije bilo, ali nedavno smo gledali proteste sa ruSSkom zastavom i onim odvratnim Z. Ne znam ni kako da opišem umobolni patriJotizam – Turci su ih mučili petsto godina, nabijali na kolac i vadili im oči čarne, ali zato kupuju njihovu robu, letuju kod njih i gledaju njihove serije, plus za sendvič dočekuju Erdogana. Nemci i Austrijanci su ih napali u dva svetska rata, pa je onda Srbin pobediJo, da bi nedugo zatim čistili klozete po Beču i ulice po Minhenu i kupovali automobile 'iz Nemačku' koje je nemačka baba vozila nedeljom do crkve ili pijace. Amerikanci su ih boNbardovali raketLama sa osiromašenim uranijomom, ali ih je zato podosta otišlo upravo tamo. Kažu da im je majčica RuSSija druga domovina i da im je svaki Rus automatski i brat, kum, rođak i svastika, pa su zato rešili da sve koji odande upravo dolaze oslobode mrskih evra. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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