VELIKA NAGRADA LAS VEGASA 17-19.11.2023

[alberto.ascari]

7 minutes ago, shonke said:

Čekaj, kako penali za promenu motora, baterije itd kad ga je organizator sjebao!?!?

 

I nova šasija. 

 

Prema pravilima, promeniš=penal. Uzrok izgleda nikog ne zanima.

[JPM]

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Diekcija trke Formule 1 u Las Vegasu odlučila je da dozvoli Karlosu Sajnsu da promeni pogonsku jedinicu bez posledica gubljenja pozicija.

 

[Dzoni_m]

Uzas jebote. Hebeni uzas. E zinat necu da gledam. 

[JPM]

Just now, Dzoni_m said:

Uzas jebote. Hebeni uzas. E zinat necu da gledam. 

 

Vidi moj upis iznad tvog.

[Dzoni_m]

Znam video sam. Sve jedno. Uopste dozvoliti tako nesto je.......

 

Sreca da je predposlednja trka pa nije ni vazno toliko br zamena i sl.

[JPM]

4 minutes ago, Dzoni_m said:

Uopste dozvoliti tako nesto je.......

 

amaterizam, slažem se. Takva staza nije smela ni da bude homologovana, ali ajde sad...

[Radoye]

 

 

Culi su se neki glasovi pred pocetak ovog trkackog vikenda koji su govorili da se zestoko kasni sa pripremom staze i da ona ne moze biti 100% spremna na vreme, izgleda da su bili u pravu i ra je posao zbrzan. Bice ovo jos jedna trka poput one prve u Saudi Arabiji gde ce najbitnije biti da svi iznesu zivu glavu. Jeb'o ih spektakl.

 

[Radoye]

Ima li potvrde vesti da Sainc nece biti kaznjen? Posto ne vidim u anglosaksonskim medijima...

Inace:

https://www.racefans.net/2023/11/17/f1-fans-removed-from-grandstands-before-second-practice-in-las-vegas/

 

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The delayed second practice session for the Las Vegas Grand Prix took place in front of empty grandstands after fans who had arrived were told they had to leave.

 

Platis $1600 za tribinu pa te oteraju sa nje 

 

[Dzoni_m]

Upravo sada krecem da pisem isti post. @John Terry odakle vest da Carlos nece biti kaznjen? 

 

KOliko ja nalazim, kaznjen je, stjuarti su pitali timove da dozvole zamenu, Mercedes je stavio veto (mozda nekome izgleda dzukacki, ali borba je za mesto u konstruktorima i sigurno da nece dozvoljavati nekome lake poene) a slepci iz FIA ne umeju da napisu pravila kako treba. 

[JPM]

8 minutes ago, Dzoni_m said:

Upravo sada krecem da pisem isti post. @John Terry odakle vest da Carlos nece biti kaznjen? 

 

KOliko ja nalazim, kaznjen je, stjuarti su pitali timove da dozvole zamenu, Mercedes je stavio veto (mozda nekome izgleda dzukacki, ali borba je za mesto u konstruktorima i sigurno da nece dozvoljavati nekome lake poene) a slepci iz FIA ne umeju da napisu pravila kako treba. 

 

https://www.b92.net/sport/automoto/f1.php?yyyy=2023&mm=11&dd=17&nav_id=2435160

 

 

Ali sad i ja vidim ipak 10 mesta.

 

Najbesmislenija kazna ikada. Prava kazna bi bila bez kazne za Ferari a stetu na bolidu da plati organizator.

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by John Terry

[alberto.ascari]

Kazna ostaje

 

 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.sainz-set-for-las-vegas-grand-prix-grid-drop-after-practice-incident.2sbDKjhjgXZyu00NvBjDbp.html

[Maharaja]

Kakva bruka, a tek je počelo...

 

Sve mi se čini da su organizatori više gledali koji "selebriti" će im pevati i praviti šou, nego bilo šta u vezi u trkanja.

[Radoye]

https://racer.com/2023/11/17/technical-upgrades-2023-las-vegas-grand-prix/

 

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McLaren, Aston Martin and Alpine are the only teams with new parts submitted for the Las Vegas Grand Prix.

 

[alberto.ascari]

13 hours ago, Radoye said:

https://racer.com/2023/11/17/technical-upgrades-2023-las-vegas-grand-prix/

 

 

 

Džabe ste krečili 😁

Q1 out

 

NOR, OCO, ZHO, PIA, TSU

[alberto.ascari]

Q2 out

 

HAM, PER, HUL, STR, RIC

[alberto.ascari]

F1 starting grid: 2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix

 

1 Charles LECLERC Ferrari

2 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull

3 George RUSSELL Mercedes

4 Pierre GASLY Alpine

5 Alexander ALBON Williams

6 Logan SARGEANT Williams

7 Valtteri BOTTAS Alfa Romeo

8 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas

9 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin

10 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes

11 Sergio PEREZ Red Bull

12 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari**

13 Nico HULKENBERG Haas

14 Daniel RICCIARDO AlphaTauri

15 Lando NORRIS McLaren

16 Esteban OCON Alpine

17 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo

18 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren

19 Lance STROLL Aston Martin*

20 Yuki TSUNODA AlphaTauri

 

 

SAI +10

STR +5

 

Edited November 18, 2023 by alberto.ascari

[Radoye]

[fancy]

Kakva farsa

 

Carlos Sainz lashes out at ‘rival teams’ after push for Las Vegas grid penalty

 

Mercedes jajare, želim im da menjaju obe šasije i bar po jedan menjač i pogonsku jedinicu za Abu Dabi👎

[JPM]

Bas su ispali kokosari, odvratno.

[fancy]

Klasičan slučaj "nek komšiji crkne krava - al da crkne i meni, pa da komšija nema od kog da zajmi mleko..."

Prave zlu krv, sutra će se možda višom silom i njima desiti nešto tako i odjebaće ih svi ko smrdljiv sir...

Razumem da su Sainz / Ferrari prekršili neko pravilo, al ovo... Ljudi zbog greške organizatora sjebali bolid, dečko mogao da nastrada, a ovi to jedva dočekali da mogu da se ogrebu za neku vajdicu... Nisko, jebeno nisko.

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[Dzoni_m]

Meh, ja ne gledam to tako. Glupo je kriviti Mercedes za to sto ne zele da menjaju pravila i dozvole direktnom protivniku da osvoji vise poena a on da i finansijski profitira.

Ovo je greska organizatora (u slucaju ove trke Liberti) i greska FIA koja je napisala retardirana pravila.

Svaku trku bi neko mogao posle ovog presedana da pravi izuzetke. Iako nisam navijac Mercedesa, mislim da su ovde dobro postupili. Stvar je pravila. Da su sada dozvolili pa hebao bi nam RB majku majcinu narednih 100 godina sa njihovom kuknjavom svaki put kada nesto krene naopako. Vecite placi-pi*de. Pa bi onda problem bili i udesi, jer ako je neko drugi kriv a bolid ostecen da se komponente moraju menjati, onda i to mora da se uzme u obzir itd itd.

Ovako ili neka menjaju pravila, a dok ih ne promene neka se drze istih.

Ovo je sada dimna zavesa i svadjanje oko koske a FIA i LIberti zvizduci u cosku i prave se blesavi. Ova situacija je samo njihiva krivica i to tako mora da se posmatra ako hocemo neko resenje.


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[alberto.ascari]

Kad bi bio zabranjen DRS sutra mogla bi da bude dobra trka. Možda će biti i ovako, dosta dobrih pilota je nisko na startu, oba McL isto pozadi. Mada cenim jedno 2-3 SC sutra, Singapore/Baku style 😁

39 minutes ago, Dzoni_m said:

Meh, ja ne gledam to tako. Glupo je kriviti Mercedes za to sto ne zele da menjaju pravila i dozvole direktnom protivniku da osvoji vise poena a on da i finansijski profitira.

Ovo je greska organizatora (u slucaju ove trke Liberti) i greska FIA koja je napisala retardirana pravila.

Svaku trku bi neko mogao posle ovog presedana da pravi izuzetke. Iako nisam navijac Mercedesa, mislim da su ovde dobro postupili. Stvar je pravila. Da su sada dozvolili pa hebao bi nam RB majku majcinu narednih 100 godina sa njihovom kuknjavom svaki put kada nesto krene naopako. Vecite placi-pi*de. Pa bi onda problem bili i udesi, jer ako je neko drugi kriv a bolid ostecen da se komponente moraju menjati, onda i to mora da se uzme u obzir itd itd.

Ovako ili neka menjaju pravila, a dok ih ne promene neka se drze istih.

Ovo je sada dimna zavesa i svadjanje oko koske a FIA i LIberti zvizduci u cosku i prave se blesavi. Ova situacija je samo njihiva krivica i to tako mora da se posmatra ako hocemo neko resenje.


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U pravu si. Nemoralno ali legitimno. Pitanje je i da li bi Vasseur bio takav king da odobri da je situacija obrnuta.

[shonke]

Pa poznato je da promena boje ubrzava bolid...

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Jesam lepo rekao... [emoji16]

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[alberto.ascari]

Gume za trku.

 

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Edited November 18, 2023 by alberto.ascari

[Radoye]

https://racer.com/2023/11/17/f1-and-las-vegas-gp-explain-practice-issues-but-dont-apologize/

 

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Formula 1 CEO Stefano Domenicali and Las Vegas Grand Prix CEO Renee Wilm have explained the issues that occurred on the opening night of track running, but not apologized, saying, “It happens, and we hope people will understand.”

 

Saopstenje u celosti:

 

 

Our top priority at Formula 1 is the safety and security of our drivers, employees, and fans, the statement read. Responsibility for the oversight of a Formula 1 event falls with Formula 1 as the commercial rights holder of the sport, the FIA as the regulatory body, and the local promoter, in this case the Las Vegas Grand Prix. This is important for those who are new to racing to understand.

 

Last night, approximately nine minutes into the first Free Practice session, a water valve cover broke on the straight on Las Vegas Boulevard. At that time the FIA, which is responsible for the safe running of the activities on the circuit, stopped the session so that we could look at the broken water valve cover and inspect the track. This has happened on occasion at other tracks at other races around the world.

 

The precautionary step of removing all of the water valve covers on the entire track and filling them with sand and asphalt was undertaken. The entire process, from determination of the issue to remediation, took approximately five hours. The decision to remediate in this way was taken out of an abundance of caution and because the safety of drivers, trackside marshals and officials and our fans is always our highest priority. We thank the contractors who worked expeditiously to resolve the situation so quickly.

 

As a result, the first Free Practice ended early. We moved ahead with the second Free Practice session at approximately 2:30 a.m. PT for 90 minutes.

The decision to run the second Free Practice session at 2:30 a.m. PT was supported by all parties to ensure the sporting integrity of the remainder of the event.

 

We would like to thank the drivers, mechanics and all the teams for their patience and commitment last night to ensure that we could run the session successfully.

 

Now, let us turn to the fan experience.

 

The delay in the start of the second Free Practice session from midnight to 2:30 a.m. PT created risks for our employees and our fans.

We made the decision to close the fan areas that are under LVGP’s purview at 1:30 a.m. PT and send fans home. Let us explain why.

 

First, we were concerned about our public safety and security officials who had been in service for a long time and who are being asked to work for the next three nights. We thank Clark County’s Metro.

 

Second, we were concerned about our transportation employees who are responsible for driving our fans back to hotels. By Federal law, they were bumping up against the amount of time they can legally and safely drive buses.

 

Finally, our hospitality staff needed the ability to clean and resupply our guest areas to ensure that the fan experience is optimal for everyone over the coming days.

 

We know this was disappointing. We hope our fans will understand based on this explanation that we had to balance many interests, including the safety and security of all participants and the fan experience over the whole race weekend.

 

We have all been to events like concerts, games and even other Formula 1 races that have been cancelled because of factors like weather or technical issues. It happens, and we hope people will understand.

 

So how will we address this tonight? We have worked overnight to adjust our staffing plans across security, transportation and hospitality to ensure that we can function and serve fans with the best possible experience in the event of an extended race schedule.

 

We are excited about the racing today and thank our entire team and our fans for their support. We know this is going to be a great event. With that, let’s get back to racing.