Rat u Ukrajini

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3 hours ago, Dragan said:

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"Hvala Bogu da imamo Putina", rekao je Vjačeslav, dok je njegov sin klimnuo glavom u znak saglasnosti.

 

 

Kakva ekipa 🤡

Ispranog mozga, neopterećeni mišlju.

 

[Don Dusko]

Hvala gospodinu Putinu sto mi je sjebao ceo zivot. Jbg.

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[Hamilton]

Lepa vest. 

[Dragan]

Spoiler

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:18 AM by Dragan

[badenac]

On 1/7/2025 at 6:30 AM, McLeod said:

Procitao sam sta je Makron rekao i ovo je pogresna interpretacija toga. Zapravo je rekao da samo od Ukrajine zavisi da li zeli da u pregovorima da teritorijalne koncesije Rusima, a na Evropi je da je podrzi.

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"French President Emmanuel Macron on Monday, January 6, urged Ukraine to have "realistic" expectations on territory as its fight against the Russian invasion heads into a fourth year. Speaking to French ambassadors about a range of foreign policy topics, he said he saw no "quick and easy solution" to the conflict.

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Trump has promised to bring a swift end to nearly three years of fighting, without offering any concrete proposals for a ceasefire or peace deal. "The United States of America must help us to change the nature of the situation and convince Russia to come to the negotiating table," Macron said. "The new American president knows himself that the United States has no chance of winning anything if Ukraine loses," Macron said.

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Europe will have to offer "security guarantees" for Ukraine, he added. He also warned that the credibility of Western countries would be "shattered" if they agreed to compromise on Ukraine because of "fatigue." "A capitulation by Ukraine cannot be good for Europeans and Americans," the French president said.

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https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2025/01/06/macron-urges-ukraine-for-realistic-expectations-warns-about-iran-in-middle-east_6736752_7.html

 

Daladjeovska politika prema Ukrajini koja je manje-vise konstantna od polovine 2022. godine.Verovatno resenje koje se kuva - dejtonizacija Ukrajine pomesana sa nekom novom verzijom  rezolucije 1244. Apsurd je sto ce Tramp doci na svoje zahvaljujuci "pozrtvovanim,saosecajnim " Evropljanima.Eh,sada sto je takva klima  i do Ukrajinaca mozda je pravo pitanje za ovaj forum.

Dve i po godine bez velike vojne pobede ali sa mnogo price o Lazarima i Milosima koji na novom Kosovu polju brane EU od Putina ohladilo je simpatije  velikog dela evropske javnosti prema pravednim ciljevima ukrajinske borbe.Ukrajina ne ratuje da bi specila rusku cizmu u Berlinu,Varsavi ili Helsinkiju nego da bi oslobodila okupirane delove svoje ,medjunarodnim dogovorima i ugovorima priznate teritorije.  

[Klotzen]

Gubici Rusa na putu u okolini Pokrovska.

 

 

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bbc

 

Donald Trump has said that a meeting is being arranged between himself and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The US president-elect gave no timeline for when the meeting might take place.

"He wants to meet and we are setting it up," he said in remarks at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.

Russian news agency Tass quotes Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying that the US has not yet formally requested a meeting.