Dragan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 2:35 PM, mrd said: Ne seća se on toga.😂 Nije tako bilo. Expand U ocekivanju neceg VELIKOG !!! "Videli ste da dolazi, da, ali ne ovako. Ne u ovoj snazi, ne u ovoj sveobuhvatnoj neizbežnosti. Svi moramo da gledamo uživo kako strategija Steve Bannona, još uvek važnog glas u svetu "Make America Great Again", ispunjava našu stvarnost i funkcioniše savršeno. U intervjuu 2019. godine, Bannon je to opisao na sledeći način: "Sve što treba da uradimo je da poplavimo zonu. Bang, bang, bang. Ovi momci nikada neće – nikada neće moći da se oporave. Ali moramo da počnemo sa brzinom projektila. " Poplaviti zonu, raditi sve u isto vreme, zauzimati je sa tri stvari odjednom. "Ovi momci se nikada, nikada neće oporaviti od toga." I sve to u izlaznoj brzini projektila. Bang, bang, bang. Izdubiti državu. Optužite Ukrajinu da je započela rat. Zelenski kao diktator. Prekinuti transatlantsko prijateljstvo. Napadnite pravosuđe. Mazite se sa Putinom. "Prototip teksta Donalda Trampa je lista", napisao je Danijel Graf nedavno u pametnom tekstu za "Republiku". To je upravo problem: teško da možete da shvatite poplavu zone na bilo koji drugi način osim u spiskovima – a onda ste suočeni sa upravo onim problemom koji je Bannon prvobitno želeo da stvori. Više ne znate ni na šta da se fokusirate. Na listi, sve je jednako važno ili nevažno, sve je jednako nečuveno ili ne. Šta radite kada je svaka stavka na listi toliko ogromna da ne možete ni da vidite veliku sliku? Ne želim više da vidim? Ljudi se okreću. Nemoc. Ignorisanje. Rezignacija. Upravo je ova vrsta rezignacije predvidjena u Trumpovom sustavu. I djeluje puno bolje nego tijekom svog prvog predsjedništva. U to je vrijeme postojao otpor. U Demokratskoj stranci, u civilnom društvu, u Bijeloj kući, čak i u Republikanskoj stranci. Danas ovaj otpor gotovo nema. I to se ne odnosi samo na SAD. " Philipp Loser Reveal hidden contents Edited March 3 by Dragan 1
Helena Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Blaćenje se nastavlja bez imalo jel ko reko srama? I prima se i raste kao korov. I otvorila se nova karta "uvreda Amerike i američkog naroda".
nonick Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/2/2025 at 1:44 PM, Angelia said: Mislim da je deo problema bio u tome. Ali nije sve. Njegov body language je bio agresivan. Mozda bi sa prevodiocem zvucao manje uvredljivo. Kazu, I ovo je internet gossip, da je promrljao nesto na ukrajinskom sto je uvredljivo za JDV. Tokom celog razgovora, JDV I Tramp mu se obracaju sa "Mr. President" dok se on obraca JDV sa JD. U nasem jeziku sa "ti". Pogledaj ceo razgovor. On se pozicionirao, kao da ih uci lekciju. Expand "Njegov body language je bio agresivan" Holy-moly, Isuse, ako se sad slogirao nisam, nikad necu! Covek je bio je toliko ladan i umeren, malo izgledao i depresivan - kako ne bi, sto je morao da iskaze sa svojim humorom, da ne bi zaplakao ili isamarao ove budale koji su ga napali kao copor hijena sa glupim pitanjima i zahtevima. To ti je bio skolski primer bullying-a, matretiranja, jbt, pokazi ovaj video nekoj deci koja nemaju pojma sta je politika i dobices jasan odgovor. 8 1
mrd Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 5:09 PM, nonick said: "Njegov body language je bio agresivan" Holy-moly, Isuse, ako se sad slogirao nisam, nikad necu! Covek je bio je toliko ladan i umeren, malo izgledao i depresivan - kako ne bi, sto je morao da iskaze sa svojim humorom, da ne bi zaplakao ili isamarao ove budale koji su ga napali kao copor hijena sa glupim pitanjima i zahtevima. To ti je bio skolski primer bullying-a, matretiranja, jbt, pokazi ovaj video nekoj deci koja nemaju pojma sta je politika i dobices jasan odgovor. Expand Političar ne sme tako da reaguje. Činjenica je da mora da bude ponizan, ali ne da pusti da ga biju, što je ovaj DT upravo hteo i još na kraju da kaže:"You are fired!" 😂
nonick Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 5:20 PM, mrd said: Političar ne sme tako da reaguje. Činjenica je da mora da bude ponizan, ali ne da pusti da ga biju, što je ovaj DT upravo hteo i još na kraju da kaže:"You are fired!" 😂 Expand Ajde sad, nisi rekao nista. Edited March 3 by nonick 1
ters Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Tu "agresivnost" Zelenskog su za sada vidjeli Trump i njegova ekipa (za koju svi znamo ko su i sta stu), "politicki analiticari" na srpskim nacionalnim frekvencijama (opet svi znamo ko su i sta su) i Putin i njegova ekipa (a i za njih znamo ko su i sta su)... Zelenski nema pravo da bude ponizan jer njegova zemlja nije ponizna - da jeste, priklonio bi se Putinovoj sili kada mu je priprijetila. 6
Dragan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 5:26 PM, ters said: Tu "agresivnost" Zelenskog su za sada vidjeli Trump i njegova ekipa (za koju svi znamo ko su i sta stu), "politicki analiticari" na srpskim nacionalnim frekvencijama (opet svi znamo ko su i sta su) i Putin i njegova ekipa (a i za njih znamo ko su i sta su)... Zelenski nema pravo da bude ponizan jer njegova zemlja nije ponizna - da jeste, priklonio bi se Putinovoj sili kada mu je priprijetila. Expand Lech Wałęsa Reveal hidden contents This is the text we signed: Your Excellency Mr President, We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenski with fear and distaste. We consider your expectations to show respect and gratitude for the material help provided by the United States fighting Russia to Ukraine insulting. Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the frontline for more than 11 years in the name of these values and independence of their Homeland, which was attacked by Putin's Russia. We do not understand how the leader of a country that is the symbol of the free world cannot see it. Our panic was also caused by the fact that the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation reminded us of one we remember well from Security Service interrogations and from the debate rooms in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges at the behest of the all-powerful communist political police also explained to us that they hold all the cards and we hold none. They demanded us to stop our business, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffer because of us. They deprived us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government and our gratitude. We are shocked that Mr. President Volodymyr Zelenski treated in the same way. The history of the 20th century shows that every time the United States wanted to keep its distance from democratic values and its European allies, it ended up being a threat to themselves. This was understood by President Woodrow Wilson, who decided to join the United States in World War I in 1917. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt understood this, deciding after the attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 that the war for the defense of America would be fought not only in the Pacific, but also in Europe, in alliance with the countries attacked by the Third Reich. We remember that without President Ronald Reagan and American financial commitment it would not have been possible to bring the collapse of the Soviet Union empire. President Reagan was aware that millions of enslaved people were suffering in Soviet Russia and the countries it conquered, including thousands of political prisoners who paid for their sacrifice in defense of democratic values with freedom. His greatness was m. in. on the fact that he without hesitation called the USSR the "Empire of Evil" and gave it a decisive fight. We won, and the statue of President Ronald Reagan stands today in Warsaw vis a vis of the US embassy. Mr. President, material aid - military and financial - cannot be equivalent to the blood shed in the name of independence and freedom of Ukraine, Europe, as well as the whole free world. Human life is priceless, its value cannot be measured with money. Gratitude is due to those who make the sacrifice of blood and freedom. It is obvious for us, the people of "Solidarity", former political prisoners of the communist regime serving Soviet Russia. We are calling for the United States to withdraw from the guarantees it made with the Great Britain in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, which recorded a direct obligation to defend the intact borders of Ukraine in exchange for giving up its nuclear weapons resources. These guarantees are unconditional: there is no word about treating such aid as an economic exchange. Lech Wales, b. political prisoner, Solidarity leader, president of the Republic of Poland III Mark Bailin, b. political prisoner, editor of independent publishing houses Severn Blumstein, b. political prisoner, member of the Workers' Defense Committee Teresa Bogucka, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition and Solidarity Gregory Bogut, b. political prisoner, activist of democratic opposition, independent publisher Mark Borowik, b. political prisoner, independent publisher Bogdan Borusewicz, b. political prisoner, leader of the underground Solidarity in Gdansk Zbigniew Bujak, b. political prisoner, leader of the underground Solidarity in Warsaw Władysław Frasyniuk, b. political prisoner, leader of the underground Solidarity in Wrocław Andrew Gintzburg, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Richard Grabarczyk, b. a political prisoner, Solidarity activist Alexander Janiszewski, b. a political prisoner, Solidarity activist Peter Kapczy .ski, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition Mark Kossakowski, b. political prisoner, independent publicist Christopher the King, b. a political prisoner , independence activist Jaroslav Kurski, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition Barbara Swan, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Bogdan Lis, b. political prisoner, leader of the underground Solidarity in Gdansk Henryk Majewski, b. a political prisoner, Solidarity activist Adam Michnik, b. political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition, editor of independent publishing houses Slavomir Najniger, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Peter the German , b. political prisoner, journalist, and printer of underground publishing houses, Stefan Konstanty Niesiołowski, b. a political prisoner , independence activist Edward Nowak, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Wojciech Onyszkiewicz, b. political prisoner, member of the Workers' Defence Committee, Solidarity activist Anthony Pawlak, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition and underground Solidarity Sylwia Poleska-Peryt, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition Christopher Push, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Richard Push, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity, Jacek Rakowiecki, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Andrew Severn, b. political prisoner, actor, director of the Polish Theater in Warsaw Witold Sielewicz, b. political prisoner, printer of independent publishing houses Henryk Sikora, b. a political prisoner, Solidarity activist Christopher Siemien Krski, b. political prisoner, journalist, and printer of underground publishing houses Gra ,yna Staniszewska, b. a political prisoner, leaders of Solidarity of the Beskids region George Degrees, b. a political prisoner, activist of the democratic opposition Joanna Happy, b. political prisoner, editor of Solidarity underground press Ludwik Turko, b. a political prisoner, activist of the underground Solidarity Matthew Wierzbicki, b. political prisoner, printer and publicist of independent publishing houses ... We watched the report of your conversation with the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenski with fear and distaste. We consider your expectations to show respect and gratitude for the material help provided by the United States fighting Russia to Ukraine insulting. Gratitude is due to the heroic Ukrainian soldiers who shed their blood in defense of the values of the free world. They have been dying on the frontline for more than 11 years in the name of these values and independence of their Homeland, which was attacked by Putin's Russia. We do not understand how the leader of a country that is the symbol of the free world cannot see it. Our panic was also caused by the fact that the atmosphere in the Oval Office during this conversation reminded us of one we remember well from Security Service interrogations and from the debate rooms in Communist courts. Prosecutors and judges at the behest of the all-powerful communist political police also explained to us that they hold all the cards and we hold none. They demanded us to stop our business, arguing that thousands of innocent people suffer because of us. They deprived us of our freedoms and civil rights because we refused to cooperate with the government and our gratitude. We are shocked that Mr. President Volodymyr Zelenski treated in the same way. 2
Helena Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Moj tviterski algoritam pokazuje da su tu agresivnost videli mnogi Amerikanci koji sada već agresivno ukazuju kako je Zelenski i diktator i kukavica i lopov i prosjak. A ni Kanada ne miruje, postavili kasnije još jedno zviždanje američkoj himni. Jbt, tranp je uništio šta je dotakao. 1
Mina D. Harker Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/2/2025 at 1:44 PM, Angelia said: On se pozicionirao, kao da ih uci lekciju. Expand Pa i morao je, mene bi bilo sramota da onako jdsplain-ujem Zelenskom kako izgleda rat u njegovoj zemlji, koju jdsplainer vrv ne zna ni da nađe na mapi. re: Kanade, Tramp je uspio da za nekoliko nedelja radikalizuje mirne Kanađane, ne znam je li to ikome u istoriji uspjelo do njega.😆 3 1
Helena Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Evo opet gledam, ova dvojica nesretnika su zapravo vrlo agresivni. I nepristojni. I odvratni. I ne mislim da je Zelenski upao u zamku, mislim da nisu očekivali tu čvrstinu od njega. 5
ters Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Zvizdanje je najmanji problem - stvari se ozbiljno mijenjaju u svim aspektima zivota, ne samo od bojkota robe iz USA , nego i u preispitivanju odnosa sa partnerima i vendorima u USA. Prosle sedmice sam dobio budzet za research project cloud providera AI servisa koji nisu povezani sa USA i Kinom... Jer se ne mozemo pouzdati na infrastrukturu koja je pod kontrolom ili uticajem "hostile" vlada - a vecina dozivljava Trump-a kao hostile vladu (osim Kju Trux Klanovaca)... 1
𝓑𝓪𝓫𝔂 Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 12:22 PM, djura.net said: Odakle ovaj covek vadi ovakve konstrukcije, neverovatno DW "We should spend less time worrying about Putin, and more time worrying about migrant rape gangs, drug lords, murderers, and people from mental institutions entering our Country — So that we don't end up like Europe!" Trump posted to his Truth Social platform Sunday night. Expand A onda pritisnes Rumuniju da pusti Tate bracu na Floridu... Pretpostavljam da su imali i prijem u morskoj kuci...
Helena Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 5:59 PM, ters said: Zvizdanje je najmanji problem - stvari se ozbiljno mijenjaju u svim aspektima zivota, ne samo od bojkota robe iz USA , nego i u preispitivanju odnosa sa partnerima i vendorima u USA. Prosle sedmice sam dobio budzet za research project cloud providera AI servisa koji nisu povezani sa USA i Kinom... Jer se ne mozemo pouzdati na infrastrukturu koja je pod kontrolom ili uticajem "hostile" vlada - a vecina dozivljava Trump-a kao hostile vladu (osim Kju Trux Klanovaca)... Expand Da, ali ovo ima jači utisak i na medijima i na mrežama. Čeka se Rubio da kaže jel uvredjen i povredjen
Angelia Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 5:48 PM, Mina D. Harker said: Pa i morao je, mene bi bilo sramota da onako jdsplain-ujem Zelenskom kako izgleda rat u njegovoj zemlji, koju jdsplainer vrv ne zna ni da nađe na mapi. re: Kanade, Tramp je uspio da za nekoliko nedelja radikalizuje mirne Kanađane, ne znam je li to ikome u istoriji uspjelo do njega.😆 Expand Ok morao je. Rezultat, Zelenski hoce dil. Bas im je pokazao. Ja mislim da nije dobro ugristi ruku koja te hrani (ili u ovom slucaju brani) ali ok. Srbija se saginjati nece.... 1
ters Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 6:36 PM, Helena said: Da, ali ovo ima jači utisak i na medijima i na mrežama. Čeka se Rubio da kaže jel uvredjen i povredjen Expand Slazem se da ima veci uticaj u medijima, ali je firma za koju radim relativno mala i jedna od mnogih slicnih, koje pripremaju na prebacivanje ugovora (u nasem slucaju oko $90,000 (CAD) mjesecno) za uslugu gdje je kljucni uslov da provajder nije iz USA ili Kine...To ce da zaboli nekoga u USA... Edited March 3 by ters
Dragan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 6:39 PM, Angelia said: Ok morao je. Rezultat, Zelenski hoce dil. Bas im je pokazao. Ja mislim da nije dobro ugristi ruku koja te hrani (ili u ovom slucaju brani) ali ok. Srbija se saginjati nece.... Expand Jos jednom - stabilna budala, ne samo da nije podrzala Ukrajinu, cak ni verbalno, nego nije odobrila ni jedan jedini $ pomoci Ukrajini. Niti je to ikada nameravao. Stavise, blokirao je preko svojih satrapa skoro pola godine pomoc koju je Biden (i veci deo oba doma) odobrio, sto je rezultiralo nepotrebnim gubitkom dela teritorije. Jedino sto je do sada pokazao je zelja da po svaku cenu uceni Ukrajinu koja je u nevolji i pokrade njena rudna bogatstva, usput hvaleci i podrzavajuci namere zlog gnoma. Imas li ti neke alternativne cinjenice, koje pobijaju ovo sto sam izneo ? 3
MeanMachine Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 6:39 PM, Angelia said: Ok morao je. Rezultat, Zelenski hoce dil. Bas im je pokazao. Ja mislim da nije dobro ugristi ruku koja te hrani (ili u ovom slucaju brani) ali ok. Srbija se saginjati nece.... Expand Ne brani Amerika Ukrajinu, Amerika brani poredak koji je izgradila. Ako pak ne branite taj poredak sto bi Evropa sebi pucala u noge drzeci vam stranu u tehnoloskom i finansijskom sukobu sa Kinom? Kina uopste nije opasnost po Evropu. Ali iz nekog razloga Trump to ne konta a izgleda ni ti. Edited March 3 by MeanMachine 4
djura.net Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 6:39 PM, Angelia said: Ok morao je. Rezultat, Zelenski hoce dil. Bas im je pokazao. Ja mislim da nije dobro ugristi ruku koja te hrani (ili u ovom slucaju brani) ali ok. Expand Kako to Trump brani i hrani Ukrajnu? Tako sto podrzava Putina? Tako sto ponizava demokratski izabranog predsednika suverene zemlje, usput i saveznika? Tako sto odustaje od medjunarodno preuzete obaveze njegove zemlje da stiti suverenitet Ukrajne? Blokadom racuna i pomoci Ukrajni zbog kog je pala kljucna tvrdjava - Avdivka, nakon koje je Rusija okupirala najveci deo istocne Ukrajne jos od 2022? Nesporazum i dolazi zbog toga sto Trump radi sve suprotno od hrani&brani. Navodno zeli da dovede Ukrajnu i Rusiju za sto, a zapravo se njegovi pregovaraci sastaju bez Ukrajne i EU sa Rusijom. Uzasna, uzasna prevrtljivost i manipulacija cinjenicama. 8
Helena Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Klika ne priznaje Zelenskog kao demokratskog predsednika, već ga zovu diktatorom. 1
ters Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 6:53 PM, Helena said: "Tihe sankcije"? Bilo bi zanimljivo to videti. Expand Nisu tihe sankcije nego pripreme za ono sto se svima ovdje cini neizbjezno - a to je potonuce USA u autoritarnost putinovskog tipa. A i da se ne desi ta najgora opcija mora se imati u vidu da ako USA nije u stanju da zastiti podatke svojih drzavljana od neovlascenog pristupa "rogue" elemenata, onda takvu zastitu ne mogu ocekivati ni kompanije, bilo sjedinjenoamericke, bilo strane... Edited March 3 by ters 2
Dragan Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) U ocekivanju "rezultata". Specijalna Down Jones Operacija. Reveal hidden contents PS Izgleda da stabilni ipak druka za Ukrajinu i napravio je cunning plan => Dow Jones dole => inflacija gore => nezaposlenost gore => recesija u US => cena nafte dole => russija gubi Somehow, in the war between Russia and Ukraine, the first country to surrender was America. Russia attacked Ukraine but conquered America. Edited March 3 by Dragan 4
djura.net Posted March 3 Posted March 3 Nova porcija zaustavljanja rata za 24 sata bbc US President Donald Trump says he hasn't "talked about" suspending military aid to Ukraine following his angry exchange in the Oval Office with Volodymyr Zelensky, but "we'll see what happens". Speaking at a press conference, Trump also says Zelensky should "be more appreciative". He adds that the Ukrainian president "better not be right" that the end of the war is "very, very far away". Any agreement for peace, the president says, should be reached with Russia and Ukraine, with "assent and consent" from Europe and the US. But "maybe somebody doesn't want to make a deal", he says, and if they don't they "won't be around for very long".
ters Posted March 3 Posted March 3 On 3/3/2025 at 8:43 PM, Dragan said: U ocekivanju "rezultata". Specijalna Down Jones Operacija. Reveal hidden contents PS Izgleda da stabilni ipak druka za Ukrajinu i napravio je cunning plan => Dow Jones dole => inflacija gore => nezaposlenost gore => recesija u US => cena nafte dole => russija gubi Somehow, in the war between Russia and Ukraine, the first country to surrender was America. Russia attacked Ukraine but conquered America. Expand Da, pravi je Boldrick. Danas je potvrdio uvodjenje tarifa Kanadi i Meksiku od sutra kojima ce dici cijenu automobilima sjedinjenoamerickih proizvodjaca koji se uglavnom proizvode (ili dobar dio njihovih dijelova) u Kanadi i Meksiku, tako da ce skociti prodaja japanskih i koreanskih proizvodjaca koji nemaju te tarife, pa ce biti kompetitivniji, a samim tim smanjiti prodaju Ford i GMC automobila...
DJ_Vasa Posted March 3 Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/3/2025 at 10:08 PM, ters said: Da, pravi je Boldrick. Danas je potvrdio uvodjenje tarifa Kanadi i Meksiku od sutra kojima ce dici cijenu automobilima sjedinjenoamerickih proizvodjaca koji se uglavnom proizvode (ili dobar dio njihovih dijelova) u Kanadi i Meksiku, tako da ce skociti prodaja japanskih i koreanskih proizvodjaca koji nemaju te tarife, pa ce biti kompetitivniji, a samim tim smanjiti prodaju Ford i GMC automobila... Expand Nevezano za automobile, čini mi se da narandžasti neandertalac obavlja posao protiv sopstvene zemlje bolje nego što bi to radio Putler lično. Edited March 3 by DJ_Vasa
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