Sunshine State

Pa definisali su oni neke stvrari vrlo jasno - pitanje je zasto ne mogu da promene neke stvari sad? Does a customer have to be a certain age to buy firearms or ammunition from a licensee? Yes. Under the Gun Control Act (GCA), shotguns and rifles, and ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 18 years of age or older. All firearms other than shotguns and rifles, and all ammunition other than ammunition for shotguns or rifles may be sold only to individuals 21 years of age or older. Licensees are bound by the minimum age requirements established by the GCA regardless of state or local law. However, if state law or local ordinances establish a higher minimum age for the purchase or disposition of firearms, the licensee must observe the higher age requirement." Isto kao sto je neko resio da doda "rifles" u ovaj akt, moze se isti i izbaciti iz akta; pa, eto, bar od neceg da krenemo. Sto se tice ovih zabrinutih za samoodbranu vlasnika - ja imam par prijatelja u US koji u tu svrhu imaju oruzje - niko nema AR.

Opinion: This is what happened when 3 nations that experienced mass shootings did something about it Niko nece dirati 2.amandman, u kom svakako NE pise da "bear arms" podrazumeva da je "arms" poluatomatsko oruzje (malo ko se s njim brani od pljacke); evo, ja hocu da branim kucu od lopova bazukom - hoce li mi je dati? Ako ne - zasto ne? Pa i to je arms! U 2. amandmanu nije pobrojano na koja se oruzja misli - neko bi mogao da trazi i top - imao bi isto pravo kao i onaj sto hoce pistolj ili AR

Ne plasim se ni ja - da se plasim, ne bih nikud mrdala. Napisala sam da sam pomislila, dok sam se setala, sta bi bilo da se desi nesto kao u, recimo, Buffalo....takve misli mi, recimo, nikad nisu pale na pamet u Evropi. Isto tako napisah - bahatom komsiji u NL bez problema mogu/smem da kazem sta mi smeta; tako nesto mi (sad) ne pada na pamet u US, jer je velika verovatnoca da bahati komsija ima neko oruzje i nikad ne znas s kim imas posla. Isto i kad vozis - evo vam statistika, a vi nadjite za EU: "Angry Drivers, Lots of Guns: An Explosion in Road Rage Shootings “In the past, people curse one another, throw up the finger and keep moving,” Mayor Sylvester Turner of Houston said in an interview. “Now instead of throwing up the finger, they’re pulling out the gun and shooting.” As more motorists seemed to be firing guns last year, the Dallas Police Department began tracking road rage shootings for the first time. The results were alarming: 45 people wounded, 11 killed." For its report on an increase in road rage shootings, the gun control group Everytown for Gun Safety relied on the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit that compiles data from government sources and media reports. The group found that more than 500 people had been injured or killed in reported road rage shootings last year, up from fewer than 300 in 2019. “The story that it’s telling is a definite and really worrying increase in incidents of road rage involving a gun,” said Sarah Burd-Sharps, the senior director of research at Everytown for Gun Safety. “Only in this country is someone shot and injured or killed every 17 hours in a road rage incident.”

Juce neka kisurina ovde, pa otisli do International Mall (Tampa), puno ljudi, setam i pomislim da sad neko randomly zapuca, sta covek moze da uradi, sve i da ima pistolj kod sebe? Mozes samo da se ponadas da jos nije dosao "tvoj dan" i da ce bas tebe promasiti... Inace, procitah negde da je u 2021. bilo skoro 700 mass shootings - neko ce reci:"Pa i nije puno na 300 + miliona stanovnika"

I dok neki mirno spavaju: 3 dead, 11 wounded in downtown Philadelphia shooting Sinoc...

"Louis bought an AR-style semi-automatic rifle just hours before the shooting, Franklin said. He bought a 40-caliber pistol from a pawn shop on May 29, police said. Both appeared to be legally purchased, police said." U par dana se naoruzao, nikom nije sumnjivo da mu odjednom treba i AR i pistolj....napala ga drzava, pa da se odbrani? Juce, u dve razlicite US drzave: "Over the span of a few hours Thursday, two women were shot and killed outside a church in Ames, Iowa, just hours after police said two people were shot at a cemetery south of Milwaukee, Wis." The Oklahoma shootings were the 233rd mass shooting in the U.S. this year. Procitajte dobro ovu cifru - 233 mass shooting samo ove godine, za 5 meseci....znaci, 1.5 mass shoting na dan! Gadna ta drzavna tiranija..... Trenutno sam na Floridi - imamo komsiju koji radi nesto sto ne bi trebalo; da sam u NL ili Nemackoj, lepo bih mu rekla sta nama komsijama smeta...ovako, ne znam kolika je budala, ima li pistolj, i kako moze reagovati.

A onoliki naslov teme! 😄

What We Know about Mass School Shootings—and Shooters—in the U.S. Criminologists explain what the shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Tex., and other deadly assaults have in common The choice of “gunmen” to describe the perpetrators is accurate – all of the mass school shootings in our database were carried out by men or boys. And the average age of those involved in carrying out the attacks was 18. Šta znamo o masovnoj pucnjavi u školama — i o pucnjavima — u SAD Kriminolozi objašnjavaju šta je zajedničko pucnjavi u osnovnoj školi Rob u Uvaldeu, Teksas, i drugim smrtonosnim napadima Izbor „naoružani muskarci“ za opisivanje počinilaca je tačan – sve masovne pucnjave u školi u našoj bazi podataka izveli su muškarci ili dečaci. A prosečna starost onih koji su učestvovali u izvođenju napada bila je 18 godina.

Vidi, nije nemoguce nesto uraditi - Florida je nakon Parkland shootinga, poostrila zakon - na Floridi ne mozes da kupis oruzje ako si mladji od 21. How Florida gun laws changed after the Parkland school shooting: - First, there’s gun control. Gun sales for most Floridians under 21 are illegal. - The shooting also prompted red flag laws. Law enforcement agencies can file ‘Risk Protection Orders’ against people who might be a threat and take away their guns. There are nearly 3,000 active Risk Protection Orders (RPO) in Florida right now. "Kako su se zakoni o oružju na Floridi promenili nakon pucnjave u školi u Parklandu: - Prvo, postoji kontrola oružja. Prodaja oružja za većinu Floriđana mlađih od 21 godine je nezakonita. – Pucnjava je takođe izazvala zakone o "crvenoj zastavi". Organi za sprovođenje zakona mogu da podnesu „naloge za zaštitu od rizika“ protiv ljudi koji bi mogli da predstavljaju pretnju i da im oduzmu oružje. Trenutno postoji skoro 3.000 aktivnih naloga za zaštitu od rizika (RPO) na Floridi.

"The gunman had purchased a total of 1,657 rounds of ammunition" 😲 18-ogodisnjak kupio 1657 metaka (or whatever) i to nigde nije izazvalo neki red flag?! Dok sam radila u US apoteci, pa mi dodje neki Xanax zavisnik, s receptom, treba mu/joj 30 tableta, ja ukucam ime/recept, iskace "flag" da je ta osoba pre 5 dana vec podigla 30 tableta. Nemoguce uraditi nesto slicno s oruzjem?! Pa kad vide da je neko kupio 2000 metaka, pitati ga je l' ide da sam oslobodi Ukrajinu, Afganistan, Siriju...

Ok, imamo, dakle, jedan slucaj za ovih 200 + godina.... I dalje ne mislim da 18-godisnii Salvador Ramos treba da moze da kupi dva AR15

Drzavna tiranija to sto je drzava pokusala da uhapsi kriminalca? "Ruby Ridge was the site of an eleven-day siege in 1992 in Boundary County, Idaho, near Naples. It began on August 21, when deputies of the United States Marshals Service (USMS) initiated action to apprehend and arrest Randy Weaver under a bench warrant after his failure to appear on firearms charges"

Alooo, je l' normalno da jednom 18-ogodisnjaku trebaju dva AR15? Ne pricam o postenim gradjanima koji ce kupiti jedan pistolj da imaju u kuci da se zastite od mogucih provalnika. Koliko je mass shootings bilo sa ilgalno kupljenim oruzjem, a koliko sa legalno nabavljenim oruzjem? Ovaj Salvador tesko da bi imao para da ilegalno kupi dva AR15, da mu drzava nije omogucila da ih kupi legalno.

"Zapakujte mi dve princes krofne i tri AR15, za poneti!"

Sa strucne grupe, post jednog lekara: "Nije tema KOVID, ali jednog dana može i da postane. Na osnovu informacije da je u Novom Sadu obuhvat MMR vakcinom jedva 24% (uz pretpostavku da je Vojvodina u prošlosti bila pristojno pokrivena sredina) gruba računica (uz aproksimaciju da u ostalim sredinama nije gora situacija od ove) pokazuje da bi od 123755 dece rodjene tokom 2020-te i 2021-ve, njih oko 88000 moglo da oboli (95% te populacije minus vakcinisani) ... što uz letalitet od "samo" 2 od 1000 (stanje u regionu tokom prethodne epidemije ... https://morbilli.epi-net.info/ Odnosno, 2.6 od 1000 u Srbiji znači nekih 176 do 228 smrtnih ishoda ... medju decom. Ako je još poznato da morbilli na par meseci prilično naruše imunitet, uz novi talas KOVID-a ... ne smem ni da pretpostavim koliki bi mogao da bude mortalitet (ili incidencija povezanih bolesti "nepoznate etiologije") u ovoj populaciji 😞 "

"U SAD-u je između 1968. i 2017. više od 1.5 milijuna ljudi umrlo od vatrenog oružja, što je više od ukupnog broja vojnika koji su poginuli u svim sukobima SAD-a od američkog rata za neovisnost 1775. godine." Super su se zastitili od drzavne tiranije!

Brzinom svetlosti nadjene pare i izglasano: "After a weeklong delay, the Senate voted Thursday to pass a $40 billion military, economic and humanitarian aid package for Ukraine as its bloody war with Russia neared the three-month mark" Isti taj senat, koji vec dve godine "nema vremena ni para" za background check bill Ja sam mislila da US vec ima organizovanu "State militia", pa ne moramo mi gradjani da se samoorganizujemo u paravojne formacije Ili mislis da ce milioni "nas civila", kad pokupujemo oruzje, biti u stanju da organizujemo "A well regulated Militia" (being necessary to the security of a free State)?

- 2. amandman - ok, Ustav pisan pre 200 + godina, sto ne znaci da nije podlozan izmenama/dopunama, ako se okolnosti promene, kao sto su se promenile za ovih 200 godina - u tom istom amandmanu ne pise koju vrstu oruzja - ova cinjenica moze da se iskoristi, pa da se donesu novi zakoni koji dodatno pojasnjavaju sta se ukljucuje "keep and bear Arms" - tu onda ograniciti prodaju oruzja kao sto je AR15 svakom ko zeli (otac jedne zrtve iz Sandy Hook sinoc rece da je ubica iz Sandy Hook za 4 minute ispucao 150 rounds - da li bi to mogao s obicnim pistoljem) - Uvesti ozbiljan background check - ljudi sad mogu da kupe oruzje i preko interneta, i na nekim "sajmovima" oruzja i od privatnih lica - ovaj bill ceka approval od strane vec dve godine Uopste ne razumem zasto bi ovo gore bilo problem za vecinu normalnih ljudi i sta je tu nesto nerazumno? U Srbiji vam treba dozvola za pecanje - u US 18-godisnjak za rodjendan sebi kupi dva AR15 - neko veruje da mu treba da se brani of drzave? Sta je nenormalno/neprihvatljivo u, recimo, zahtevu Elona Muska: "He said he supports “tight” background checks for all gun purchases and special licenses for assault weapons." Nigde u 2. Amandmanu ne pise da to nije dozvoljeno

Treba dozvoliti da kupuju i tenkove i bazuke i bombe! Tako ce se jos sigurnije odbraniti od drzavne tiranije - zasto se zaustaviti na automatskom i poluautomatskom oruzju?

"For nearly a decade, his chief fight in Congress has been a campaign to pass universal gun background check legislation. Passed by the House, the bill has died repeatedly in the Senate. Thompson aimed harsh words Tuesday at those standing in its way. “What that boils down to is, there’s too many gutless senators sitting on their hands instead of taking action that will save lives,” said Thompson, the North Bay’s senior congressman." Thompson, a Vietnam War veteran and lifelong hunter, first introduced his universal background checks bill in 2013. It would close a long-standing loophole in existing laws by expanding background checks to those purchasing weapons over the internet, at gun shows and through certain private transactions. The House has passed it twice, most recently in March 2021. But it has languished in the Senate, where 60 members are needed to avoid a filibuster and advance the legislation to a vote. Rep. Thompson blasts ‘gutless’ GOP senators blocking gun background check bill after deadly Texas school shooting

Paul Krugman, American economist and public intellectual: "In a different time zone, so I woke up to the Uvalde news. As usual, the people making such things possible are demanding that we refrain from politicizing the horror. Hell no. Unrestricted access to deadly weapons is a political choice, and we should say it" "U drugoj vremenskoj zoni, pa sam se probudio sa vestima o Uvaldeu. Kao i obično, ljudi koji omogućavaju takve stvari zahtevaju da se uzdržimo od politizacije užasa. Do đavola ne. Neograničen pristup smrtonosnom oružju je politički izbor, i to treba da kažemo Da bismo zastitili sve potencijalno ranjive (skole, supermarkete, trzne centre) dakle, da bi se „očvrsnule ove mete“, na šta je Dan Patrik pozvao sinoć, bila bi potrebna vojna snaga veća od Korpusa marinaca, koji ima oko 180.000 pripadnika. I da, vojna sila; zapamtite, pancir"

Cekaj, da li je tebi stvarno noralno da 18-godisnjak ne moze da kupi pivo, ali moze da ode i kupi dva AR15? I da drzava ne moze nista da uradi po tom pitanju? Ono - uklesano u kamenu?

Odradjene i studije, nema sta da se mi pitamo - zna se sta racunaju u mass shootings, i evo i nekih info: A mass shooting is an incident of targeted violence carried out by one or more shooters at one or more public or populated locations. Multiple victims (both injuries and fatalities) are associated with the attack, and both the victims and location(s) are chosen either at random or for their symbolic value. The event occurs within a single 24-hour period, though most attacks typically last only a few minutes. The motivation of the shooting must not correlate with gang violence or targeted militant or terroristic activity.* "The stereotype of a mass shooter is a white male with a history of mental illness or domestic violence. While that may be anecdotally true, the largest single study of mass shooters ever funded by the U.S. government has found that nearly all mass shooters have four specific things in common. A new Department of Justice-funded study of all mass shootings — killings of four or more people in a public place — since 1966 found that the shooters typically have an experience with childhood trauma, a personal crisis or specific grievance, and a “script” or examples that validate their feelings or provide a roadmap. And then there’s the fourth thing: access to a firearm. Mass shootings have been increasing in frequency since 1966 1966-1975 12 mass shootings 2011-2020 160 mass shootings 95.7% of perpetrators were male 54.8% of perpetrators were white

Ne, nego ispada da treba da se uradi analiza koji avioni najvise padaju, zasto, kako.... pa izvuci zakljucke sta moze da se promeni/poboljsa da ne padaju

Ne, vec me u prici o masovnim ubistvima manje zanimaju ubistva pistoljima, pucali belci, crnci, Latinosi..... Sorry, ti si u pricu ubacio crnce, ne ja! Ja sam napisala gangs! Btw, vecinu mass shootings, koji su predmet razgovora, su pociinili belci, tako da me ne prozivas za rasizam