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https://joeposnanski.com/p/the-wonder-of-novak Roger Federer is always Roger Federer. He spots his serve like no one ever has. He moves with such perfect rhythms, it’s as much like dancing as tennis. His forehand can end points from anywhere in the stadium, in the later stages of his career he turned his backhand into its own gorgeous weapon, and nobody commands the net like he does. He does surprising things — tweeners between the legs, no-look shots into the open court, drop shots that land and sink into the ground — but he himself is never surprising. Rafael Nadal is always Rafael Nadal. He plays every point like it is his last. He makes his opponent hit three, five, eight balls that would be winners against almost anyone else. He hits his shots with such vicious topspin that each one must feel like a boxer’s body blow, and he attacks moments of weakness like few ever have. He grunts and sweats and plods and opponents know that he will never stop, never, and that might just be the scariest feeling in sports. It is nothing but a compliment to say that they are who they are. But Djokovic is different, He — more than the other two, more than any player in this game’s long history, I would argue — is amorphous, adaptable, variable. He changes from point to point. The great tennis impressionist transforms before your very eyes. He can play some of Federer’s game — twice in the match against Thiem, he faced a break point that, had he lost, probably would have cost him the match. Both times, he served and volleyed. “That not really what I do,” he said after the match ended, except that it is what he does when the time is right. He is a genius at the net when the situation calls for it. He loves facing his opponent just on the other side of the next, two of them barely 10 feet apart, in a game of quick-draw. He can play Nadal’s game — sometimes, against Thiem, he just stood a few feet behind the baseline and chased down anything and everything Thiem smashed at him. It was awe-inspiring to see him return fire until Thiem, mentally exhausted, deeply frustrated, tried a shot that even he did not quite have the talent to pull off. He can be offensive or defensive. He can punch or counter punch. He can beat you with his serve, he can beat you with his return. Djokovic also has his own game — the closest thing he has to a tangible style — where he returns serves right at your feet, takes hold of the point, never lets it go, moves you from side to side to side to side until you wilt. He has so many choices of what kind of tennis player he can be — I sometimes wonder if this is at the heart of the frustrations he often shows on the court. Numerous times a match, Djokovic will look up to his coaching box, not for emotional support but to complain about something that doesn’t easily or obviously connect to the action. “Why is he screaming at them?” you will think after an opponent hits a winner against him or when he hits a shot just wide. My best guess, much of the time, is that he’s complaining about the persona and his team had chosen, as if to say, “Well, if I knew he was going to play like THIS I would have been someone different today.”
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Pa naravno da standardi treba da budu isti u oba smera. cinjenica: Novak se nije podsmevao Fedovim problemima, niti ih dovodio u pitanje, sta vise u samom intervjuu na terenu je sam rekao da je Fed bio povredjen i ne na svom vrhuncu itd. cinjenica: Boxy ne vidi nista lose u Fedovom podsmevanju Novaku 2009. zakljucak: onda sigurno treba da prihvati i proslonedeljno podsmevanje Fedovim problemima s preponama (da se sad ne vracam u nazad, ali ako me secanje dobro sluzi bila je diskusija da li je Fedova nelagoda u predelu prepona fizicke ili mentalne prirode (skraceno receno) itd.)
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pa ti si rekla da ne pisemo o onom posle 2011.
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Pa Boxy kaze da je ok podsmevanje mladjahnom Novaku, na sta ja kazem da je onda znaci eto u redu i podsmevanje polomljenim preponama od prosle sedmice.
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Kad vec idemo u proslost, evo sta je Fed izjavio posle 1. poraza od Novaka na Rodzersk kupu 2007.: http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=44847 posle ovog je usledilo USO finale i 7 (ili bese 9) Novakovih propustenih set lopti u 2 seta. a potom Novakova pobeda u SF AO 2008 (i Fedova retroaktivna mononukleoza).
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nedostatak empatije prema mladjahnom Djokovicu potpuno opravdava sadasnje podsmevanje njegovim polomljenim preponama. (verujem da bi se slicno podsmevao i Feliksu zbog predaje zbog srcanih problema) A kako je to Novak uvredio njegovo velicanstvo Feda predajom u MC (iz kog god razloga)? Taj mec se i onako pisao kao Fedova pobeda i usao u h2h. Makar nije izasao u dzempericu i rekao da ne moze da igra jer nema sanse da pobedi - cime je Novaka sprecio da dobije jos jednu pobedu i poboljsa svoj h2h.
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Pa Fedova izjava tokom AO 2009 jeste bila odvratna i nipodastavajuca (lepo se cuje na snimku). Fed je igrao svoj mec u vecernjem terminu, dok su Rodik i Novak igrali na 40+ stepeni tokom dana (zasto ovo zvuci poznato? ). "to se vec desavalo, on nije momak koji nikada ranije u svojoj karijeri nije odustajao", pa onda postavlja temelje za sumnjicenje svake Novakove predaje (pominjuci predaju u MC zbog toga sto ga je bolelo grlo). Na to dodaje kako je on sam eto samo jednom u svojoj karijeri odustao, u Prizu predao Blejku jer nije mogao da se krece zbog ledja (i sad mi njemu treba da verujemo na rec da su ga bolela ledja, ali ne i Novaku). Vrlo, vrlo nisko. A mediji se uvek potrude da podsete (i posle 2011) kako je Novak na pocetku karijere cesto predavao meceve (da mi je samo znati koju li je time prednost sticao? ).
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predaja Wawrinki u Umagu 2006: https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2006&mm=07&dd=31&nav_id=206317 predaja Davidenku u Moskvi u DC 2008: igrao pod temperaturom i antibioticima (dok su drzali 2,5 seta mogao je da igra i naravno vodio, potom nastupio kolaps) licno, da je mene pitao, rekla bih mu da uopste ne igra, ali on oseca obavezu prema timu... predaja Delpo-u u DC je bila kad je igrao polupovredjen (od meca s Rafom na USO) i potom pogorsao povredu i unistio si kraj sezone takodje, da je mene pitao, rekla bih mu "pamet u glavu i gledaj svoja posla /interese", ali... on oseca obavezu prema timu... i dozivi da ga zbog predaje posle posipaju ....... 2016 je povredjen (lakat) igrao OI, potom USO (gde su mislili da nece moci uopste da nastupi) i takav dogurao do finala (uz par predaja) i izgubio od Wawrinke. Umesto da je posle Wimbldona otisao kod lekara da sanira povredu, cime bi izbegao lutanja u naredne 2 godine. Usput, Beker je vrlo dobro znao da je Novak povredjen. Ne znam da li mu je savetovao da napravi pauzu i sanira povredu (i oporavi se od burnouta) sto je trebalo da uradi kao trener, ali je potom na sva zvona (evo i sad pre neki dan) trubio kako Novak ne trenira dovoljno, kako nije zeleo da se bavi tenisom (ovo mu je sada bio odgovor na pitanje zasto nisu produzili saradnju) i slicne budalastine (alibi za sebe).
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covek je pitao o cemu se radi, dobio je odgovor. verovatno je u pitanju neko mladji ko se ne seca (bio mali) kad se sve to desavalo.
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detalji o Wimbldonu 2007: s Nadalom SF 7.7. https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2007&mm=07&dd=07&nav_id=254326 s Bagdatisom QF 6.7. (5h) https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2007&mm=07&dd=06&nav_id=254236 s Hjuitom 5.7 (4h). https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2007&mm=07&dd=05&nav_id=254076&version=amp s Kiferom 3.7. : https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2007&mm=07&dd=03&nav_id=253631 AO 2009- predaja Rodiku: https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2009&mm=01&dd=27&nav_id=341508 predaja Wawrinki u Umagu 2006 https://www.b92.net/sport/tenis/vesti.php?yyyy=2006&mm=07&dd=31&nav_id=206317
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verovatno misli na ovo: od 1:10 i narocito od 1:34 https://www.espn.com/sports/tennis/aus09/news/story?id=3863682 ne mogu da nadjem transkript (nema ga na asapsports)
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https://www.theroar.com.au/2020/02/03/the-goat-debate-has-become-a-djoke/ The GOAT debate has become a Djoke
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Ima potrebnu drskost da dobre rezultate.
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tacno se vidi razlika u klasi.
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Koepfer loptice salje direktno na Medvedeva, ovaj ne mora da se mrdne, sam da mlati po loptici i seta Koepfera (umesto obrnuto)
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ja koristim ovo: https://www.jokerlivestream.net/joker-tennis-live-streaming-14.html meni funkcionise
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da, to na ledjima je malo previse. meni se vise svidja narandzasta varijanta. i super mi je sto boja patika nema veze s bojom haljine, zato mi cela kombinacije deluje nekako mladalacki (sto im je valjda i bio cilj).
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Kim se vratila takodje posle porodjaja i osvajala GSove. Sad na nemackom ES pricali Beker, Barbara Ritner (bivsa sefica FedCup reprezentacije, a sad pandan Bekeru za razvoj zenskog tenisa u Nemackoj) i Stah (novinar) o proslogodisnjem finalu i citavom skandalu. Slozili su se da je Serena zaista presla sve granice (posebno je Ritner bila kriticna - ona je i inace prilicno direktna u svim svojim komentarima, Beker je malo na pocetku probao da opravda Serenu: da je osvojila prosli USO bilo je ugovoreno da donesu Sereninu bebu na teren da se pridruzi proslavi ) i da su americki mediji bili totalno odvratni i totalno na Sereninoj strani, ne postujuci sirotu Naomi, da su generalno previse patriotski nastrojeni (Ameri moraju na kraju da izadju kao pobednici u svemu) itd. Bas su bili kriticni. Sad sam gledala zavrsetak dubla McCoco, klinke su odlicne (tipicne Americke tinejdzerke). Obe su pricale vrlo pohvalno o Naomi, kako ne samo da je odlicna teniserka vec i covek, Coco rekla da joj je ipak posle ovog Naominog gesta bilo lakse da podnese poraz. Sve u svemu, klinke prosle dalje, manija se nastavlja.
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Pa ni KarenjoBusta ne bi bio bolji protiv Feda. A vise se Dzumhur trudio i borio od Gofana (a on je mnogo losije rangiran od Gofana). Ali znali smo svi ovo, nije nikakvo iznenadjenje. Fed ladno moze do 50. godine da igra i bice u top 3 (s ovakvom konkurencijom).
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I nemacki ES na GS-ovima prenosi njihove igrace prvenstveno (i Federera) bez obzira da li je u toku neki atraktivniji mec (dok ne poispadaju). Trenutno je i njih zahvatila Coco manija, a regularno izvestavaju i o Kiriosu (nocas je komentator vidno navijao za njega - valjda tradicionalna netrpeljivost prema Rusima; ni Medvedev nije bio postedjen kritike posle svog poslednjeg meca, ali se za Kiriosa uvek nalaze opravdanja). Sad im je ostala lepa Julka, o Zverevu se izvestava svaki dan, on daje neke dodatne intervjue, a i Köpfer im je sad postao interesantan, kao i dubl koji je osvojio RG. U principu lepo pokrivaju nemacke igrace (on i off court), ali je smorno ako ti se gleda neki drugi mec, a ti imas u ponudi Gojovcika na jednom ES kanalu a Stebea na drugom.