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Oval ace Ralph Liguori dies at 93 By Robin Miller | 5 hours ago He held the track record at Langhorne, got one of the loudest ovations ever at the Hoosier Hundred, survived spectacular flips on ABC’s Wide World of Sports, raced 44 years over five decades and was one of the most-beloved drivers ever with open wheel fans. But, sadly, Ralph Liguori will most likely be remembered for never making the Indianapolis 500. Ralphie The Racer, who died Wednesday at age 93, came to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway with a ride 10 times and never made the big show. He didn’t drive the best cars — not even close — and got bumped in 1959 and 1963. “I’ve got admit that it does bother me that I’m known as the guy who never made Indianapolis,” said Liguori during an interview back in 1977. “I wanted to make that race so bad but it never happened so I kinda got stuck with the label as a loser. “But I had some pretty good runs in my career.” The most memorable came in 1970 at the Hoosier Hundred (pictured, top), which back then was the second highest-paying race in USAC and televised by ABC’s Wide World of Sports. “Lagooch” qualified 10th and steadily worked his way forward until he got right behind second-place A.J. Foyt. Driving the old Walt Flynn dirt car, the 43-year-old veteran passed Super Tex with a few laps to go as the packed grandstand erupted in cheers. When he pulled in, the runner-up got a bigger ovation than winner Al Unser. “Probably my most satisfying moment in racing,” he recalled. Starting in NASCAR stocks in 1951, the New York City native quickly adapted to Langhorne’s tricky and lethal D-shaped oil dirt oval that killed so many drivers. He set the track record of 104.107mph in scoring his first USAC sprint win at the Horne in 1957 and suddenly was on car owner’s radar. His first visit to Indy was in 1959 and he was assigned to the Eldorado Maserati, a car that had been built for Stirling Moss. He qualified but got bumped. In 1961, he was taking his refresher test in Andy Granatelli’s Novi when the engine exploded and the car slid in its own oil, pounded the wall and caught fire. Ralph got burned but returned to the Speedway a couple days later only to find his ride had been turned over to Russ Congdon. Dick Rathmann and Paul Russo also practiced in the cantankerous car but nobody could go fast enough to qualify. From 1962-68 Liguori showed up at Indy and drove 13 different cars but never made the show. He got bumped at 5 p.m. on the final day of time trials in 1959 and at 5:40 on Bump Day in 1963. And the fitting swansong to his star-crossed Indy career came in 1976 when his loyal fans donated $11,000 to the cause but the 50-year-old veteran couldn’t find any takers for his services. He tried making the Hoosier Hundred in 1983 and won a regional midget race at age 70 before finally hanging up his helmet in 2008. Yet despite all his heartbreak at 16th & Georgetown, “Lagooch” always maintained a pleasant personality. Sure, not making Indy hurt, but he made a lot of fans with his plucky spirit. “I’m very lucky,” he said back in 2002. “I’ve got a nice trailer park in Tampa that’s paid the bills and I was able to race in the golden era of sprints and Indy cars against some of the best guys. I had some good days and some bad ones, but no regrets. You know, except not making Indianapolis.”

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'Se i ovo broji ovde?

Rekao je ovo: Prakticno, rekao je da je neozbiljno izletati se u javnosti izjavama o pregovorima dok pregovori jos traju - sto je potpuno fair point. Nije rekao da su smesni oni koji ce potpisati sledeci Konkord jer je i sam rekao da namerava da ga potpise kad ispregovaraju sve detalje.

https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/21/ferraris-rivals-rubbish-binottos-claim-they-have-also-lost-power-since-last-year/

Svi bolidi sa Ferarijevim pogonom su u drugoj polovini poretka, jasno se vidi da tu fali snage...

@4_Webber Dobro, ali nemoj da nam (previse ) ljutis Borka. Sta bismo mi bez njega, ko bi radio sve to sto on radi ovde?

Porse ce da udje tamo gde mu Folksvagen naredi, a oni su nameravali da udju u F1 (sad, sa kojom tacno markom) do pred onog skandala sa dizelom kad su posmenjivali rukovodstvo. Ovi novi ljudi na celu kompanije su odlucili da peru imidz kroz ucesce u Formuli E pa je F1 program stavljen na led na neodredjeno vreme.

Ma znam ko je i kontam foru. Zajebancija brate 🙂

I na kraju do kazne... 😐

Mes'cini da je kazna za Magnusena jako nategnuta. Sto se Grozana tice ovo moze da se protumaci kao da je dobio instrukciju od tima (sto je Stajner i potvrdio tokom prenosa na Sky) al' Magnusen je prakticno narucio slikove sam.

Pa, ono, uvek postoji instanca ulaganja protesta, pa da u krajnosti ode i na WMSC i da se tamo izanalizira sve. Samo, prvo bi neko trebalo da ulozi protest. A ako je ocigledno da je napravljen prekrsaj, siguran sam da bi protesta bilo - evo samo u Austriji 1 je RBR tri puta protestvovao protiv Mercedesa i uspesno preokrenuo raniju odluku sudija. Jbg presedan za identican slucaj vec postoji (Austrija 2017) kad je receno da je tolerancija 0.2 sekunde (kao biolosko minimalno vreme za ljudsku reakciju) unutar kojeg moze da pocne da se krece da "uleti u pucanj", pod uslovom da za to vreme bolid ne izadje iz gridboksa tj. da taj transponder ne predje imaginarnu liniju koja registruje start. Ja vidim da je ranije krenuo, ti vidis da je ranije krenuo, svi vidimo da je ranije krenuo ali FIA je odlucila da je pod ovim uslovima to OK jer je unutar tolerancije koju oni smatraju prihvatljivom. Dakle, ako majstor uspe da istempira da je bolid stacionaran do momenta -0.2 sekunde do starta, i da izmedju toga i 0.0s (momenta starta) predje manje od x cm start se smatra legalnim. Svejedno da li to uradi Botas, Kimi ili Grozan. Ne svidja se ni meni, ali je tako.

Objasnio Stajner u prenosu na Sky sta se desilo. Magnusen je javio da su se zajebali (samo on je bio na full wet) i trazio da boksuje pre starta, pitali su ga koje ce gume on rek'o slikove. Kad su to culi pozvali su i Grozana pa i njemu isto stavili.

Re: Botas, vec je bio presedan sa tih 0.2 sekunde, nije ovo prvi takav slucaj (bas Botas, Austrija 2017 - vidi link dole). Ni meni se ne dopada ali tako je. Valjda to potpada pod ono "judgement" iliti "slobodno sudijsko uverenje" 😐 https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/130639/fia-explains-why-bottas-start-was-legal

Kime je navodno bio pogresno pozicioniran na startu. Obicno takva kazna ide kada ne krenes sa svog mesta na gridu, sto ne znam kako mu je uspelo kad je svakako zadnji. Mozda je prosao suvise napred i napustio svoj gridboks? Nisu pokazali na TV. Sto se tice Botasa, po meni je stvar crno-bela, ako se kreces pre znaka za start to je automatska kazna, no sad su na Sky objasnjavali da ima tolerancija od 0.2 sekunde (kao, toliko je dozvoljeno da ranije krenes) pod uslovom da ne izadjes iz gridboksa do samog momenta starta. Po tom arsinu Botas je taman bio dobar. Tipicna F1, nadju nacina da zakomplikuju i sustinski veoma proste stvari. Pravi heroji danasnje trke su mehanicari Red Bula na Maksovom bolidu kojima bi Maks trebalo da da svoj trofej. Ostalo uspavanka, malo zivosti su uneli Hasovci oportunim menjanjem guma pred sam start pa kad su zbog toga izbili na celo bar smo mogli da gledamo kako ih ostali preticu. Bez toga trka bi bila prava uspavanka. Ostaje jos da se vidi da li ce Albon biti kaznjen i kako (moguce sankcije su on +10 sekundi pa sve do diskvalifikacije), navodno su mehanicari brisali stazu ispred njegovog gridboksa da mu omoguce sto bolji start sto je zabranjeno.

Maks se slupao na putu do grida, prednje krilo, moguce i ogibljenje (u kom slucaju nece moci da startuje)

Rezultati: https://racerdigital.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/indycar-officialrace2results.pdf Ima na torentima, na YT sam za sada nasao samo prvu trku (petak vece).