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Tako je virus usao u min 56 domova u Kanadi, a ja zivim u zoni gde je neproporcionalno veliki broj medicinskih radnika, koji bukvalno opsluzuju Detroit. Mi porodicno poznajemo dosta medicinskih sestara I generalno, dugo nije bilo apsolutno nikakvih pravila za njih. Radili su u po 5-6 centara odjednom, ukljucujuci rad i u Kanadi i u USA. Medicinski radnici u starackim domovima moraju imati mnogo veci stepen licne discipline, a potrebna su I pravila tipa rad samo u jednom centru, sa sto manje korisnika doma istovremeno. Verovatno se mogu napraviti I mnogo sofisticiranije mere.

S tim da ne znamo tacno ko je u Srbiji testiran. Da li funkcionersko botovske armije ili zene od 70+ godina sa simptimima, koje zive u Dzankovcu.

Iskreno, ko to zna. Ljudi koji ne veruju u sistem postoje u svim grupama. To su ljudi koji verovatno misle Trump ili Bajden - isto. Realno, to je i najjaca karta koju Tramp ima, da dodje do izrazenijeh cepanja biraca demokrata, ali s obzirom na obim i asortiman Trampovih gluposti, sve su manje sanse da raskol bude izrazen.

Megatrend ima dobar model

Pristalice Sandersa su obicni ljudi, nikakvu fanatici. Definitivno nikakvi socijalni konzervativci.

Zena je imala jednu solidnu stand up tiradu kako sam docekai svoj svet o kome sam uvek mastao: Ne idemo nigde i ne radimo nista, nema putovanja i druzenja sa ljudima, Jedemo puno mesa i krompira, zamrzavamo hranu i ne jedemo organsku, koristimo tesku hemiju za ciscenje i svi pricaju samo o distopijama i zombijima...

Koliko sam ja ispratio Sandersovo i Bajdenovo obracanje juce, verovatnoca je da ce doci do dogovora. Sanders je izjavio da se povlaci iz trke ali i dalje ce se pojaviti na konvenciji sa svojim delegatima, da trazi dogovor oko ukljucivanja njegove platforme. Bajden je bio dosta trezven po pitanju Sandersa i rekao da se radi o ogromnom broju pristalica, koji nece nestati sa odustajanjem Sandersa, niti u skorijoj buducnosti, vec su tu da traju. Sa te strane, siguran sam da ce demokrate ovoga puta uspeti da se dogovore, u njihovim ocima Trampova moc verovatno slabi i nema nicega sto bi on mogao da povuce, neka skrivena karta, koja bi mogla da dovede do raskola u birackom telu demokrata. + ne znamo kako ce se korona odraziti na sve ovo, ali Tramp moze imati problema u nekim zaristima koja lako mogu da flipnu levo desno, kao Micigen, Pensilvanija i Ilinois.

Problem je vreme potrebno da se dodje do imuniteta krda. Nacin na koji se virus siri ne ostavlja nam mogucnost da makar I probamo slicno. Bez ikakvih mera, broj zarazenih bi se duplirao svake nedelje I uz ovu smrtnost (2-3%) bi doveo do kolapsa Sistema pre nego sto bi 3 % ljudi bilo zarazeno. Za imunitet krda trebalo bi nam da 'kontrolisano' uz socijalno distanciranje polako povecavamo broj zarazenih. Nazalost, ta misija bi trajala godinama I vakcina ce stici mnogo pre. Naravno, treba se nadati da cemo ugasiti prvi udar virusa u roku od par meseci I onda dosta spremniji cekati njegov povratak pred kraj godine. (Sa jasnim procedurama ponasanja, mozda brzim I dostupnim testovima itd.) A zatim se uzdati da ce neka od prvih verzija vakcina biti dovoljno pouzdana...

The Globe and mail “ This is a bad news story, about what went wrong yesterday. But it also contains the ingredients for a good news story, about something poised to go right tomorrow. Since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, Ontario has trailed the rest of the country when it comes to testing people for the novel coronavirus that causes the disease. It’s been a fundamental, fatal, gap in the province’s pandemic response, since a key method of stopping the outbreak involves figuring out who has the virus, and then isolating them and their contacts. Doing public health without adequate testing is like telling the fire department to rush to a seven-alarm blaze, but asking them to guess where the fire is. Putting the Canadian economy into a medically induced coma was necessary, but stay-at-home orders and mass business shutdowns are blunt weapons, delivering heavy collateral economic damage. Testing is a precision instrument. So: The bad news. Ontario, home to four out of 10 Canadians, is inlast placeamong the provinces when it comes to testing. British Columbia has tested twice as many people, relative to its population. Alberta has tested at three times Ontario’s rate. Quebec, despite having barely more than half as many people, has administered tens of thousands more tests. Ontario is the province with the largest number of deaths from COVID-19, yet its public health officials, hospitals and nursing homes don’t have a handle on where the coronavirus is. The fire department is wearing blindfolds. More than two weeks ago, Ontario Health Minister Christine Elliott said help was on the way. The province aimedto have the capacity to process 5,000 tests a day by late March, and 19,000 a day by mid-April. However, as Ontarians, including health-care workers, shared stories of being refused a test, or waiting a week for results, the province’s test volume failed to move up as promised. This week, between Sunday and Wednesday, the province averaged fewer than 4,000 tests a day. But now for some good news. Everyone in authority in the province appreciates the seriousness of the situation. Premier Doug Ford’s daily briefing on Wednesday was almost entirely devoted to the testing crisis. It has become Job No. 1 for the Ford government. And the province appears to have solutions. Mr. Ford says the province has the capacity to test 13,000 people a day – more than the number of tests performed on an average day in the other nine provinces combined. He says Ontario has the kits and laboratories to achieve those numbers. It remains unclear why, if Ontario ramped up capacity in recent weeks, that this failed to translate into a lot more tests. It may be that local authorities, used to shortages and effectively having been told to be stingy with a scarce resource, continued to stick to outdated guidelines. Ms. Elliott has promised to update the rules. What will more testing reveal? Ontario’s official number of confirmed infections will rise at first, perhaps dramatically. That will make it seem like the pandemic is suddenly getting worse, but it will actually mean seeing more of the iceberg – the part that is now underwater. Every jurisdiction has a high number of cases that are never accounted for, but the less testing there is, the more cases go unnoticed and unmonitored, and the more opportunities there are for people unaware of their infection to unknowingly infect others. Overall, Canada is testing more than many other countries. The number of fatalities relative to the official number of cases is deceptively high in places such as Italy and the United Kingdom, because they’ve done so little testing. That’s also true in the United States, which was doing barely any tests until late March. However, it is now testing at a higher rate than Canada. To fight the virus, Canada needs to be able to test tens of thousands of people a day. Ideally, hundreds of thousands. When the time comes to begin loosening physical-distancing measures, testing is going to be even more vital. The more successful the current stay-at-home orders are, the sooner we can begin to withdraw them. And the more we have the capacity to test, trace and isolate – and to do a type of test that confirms who has already had the virus – the less likely we are to have a renewed outbreak that necessitates a return to economic lockdown. ”

Nek se ponovi za ljude u zadnjim klupama...

Ono sto ja vidim od pristalica Laboura u komentarima je ukratko: - Ovo je mali korak unapred, jer novi lider ima vece sanse da privuce glasove od Korbina I Milibanda - Bice im potreban novi pristup politici, jer je stari nacin nastupanja na mrezama blamantan. - Bice im potrebna I nova, mnogo sofisticiranija politika napada na Torijevce, koja je sad nemastovita. -Korbinove politike obracale su se malim grupama glasaca I to se mora promeniti...

ne idem u kupovine trenutno. Pokusacu nesto sa pirincanim, ako se ne javim, verovatno je potop.

Da prekinem za trenutak ove bajke o hlebovima, ja bih ovaj okrugli mogao da pojedem u jednom sedenju. Elem, zena ima alergiju na gluten I nije lako naci njen regularni hleb, pa gledam sta moze da se napravi od pirincanog brasna, a da se ne raspadne u sekundi.

Hrvatska je uradila 4 puta vise testova nego mi. Sam taj podatak govori o njihovom nivou aktivnosti na svim nivoima od uzimanja uzorka do testiranja I sirenja kruga testiranih. Kod njih je jasno da hasluju likovi, aktivnost, radi se na tehnickim pitanjima. Kod nas baja najavi pre dve nedelje masovno testiranje za dva dana, a onda se ispostavi da imaju jednu laboratoriju, da nisu organizovali sve potrebne korake u testiranju, da su jedva uspeli da testiraju deo medicinskog osoblja I gomile svojih drzavnih I partijskih funkcionera, da grupisu netestirane zajedno po vise dana da came cekajuci. + Vucic je pritisnuo dugme, ali se nista nije desilo. Vucic je zaverglao, nista, povukao polugu - nista Izasao, obilazio oko minibusa, psovao - nista. I sada, sa realnim polugama za vanredne situacije, koje su avaj polomljene I deaktivirane, Vucic ima samo jednu mogucnost, da nas strap u kuce I leci svojim balalajkama sa malog ekrana

Imunitet krda je nemoguca misija, to je bilo jasno od pocetka. Svaki scenario neregulisanog sirenja virusa doveo bi hitro do kolapsa, mrtvi na ulicama I sl, ne bi stiglo da se zarazi ni 3 % populacije.

Slovenci razbili sa testiranjem I trenutno su u top 20 po broju testova po glavi stanovnika. Postaju dosta jasnije ove krive, zemlje koje su rano uradile mnogo testova, Norveska, Svajcarska, Australija, Austrija, zatim Nemacka, videce ranije svetlo na kraju tunela. Italija je isto uradila mnogo testova ali je sa druge strane bila jako pogodjena vrlo rano. Zemlje koje su manje otkrivale zarazene, poput UK, Francuske, Holandije Svedske ce mozda videti duzi uspon krive zarazenih. Interesantno je da Svedjani su kao lezerni sto se tice ponasanja, ali su uradili dosta testova. Rusi I Belorusi vise od Francuza po glavi stanovnika.

Ovo ce svakako biti prvorazredno politicko pitanje I treba da bude tako. Ako ovo nije problem na kome treba da se testira kvalitet poteza vlasti, onda ja ne znam sta je. Istina je doduse da to treba raditi posle svega, kad se podvuce crta, ali svaka svinjarija treba da bude zabelezena vec sada.

Sad ga veličaju, a pre sedam godina su ga doveli do nervnog sloma, Đoković im tada poručio: "Sad ćete k**** da mi ližete!" (VIDEO) (Gasi ybt)

Ovih dana iz nepovezanih srpskih vesti: -Jos uvek rade testove samo na jednom mestu, nema novih laboratorija koje su osposobljene -To je starija generacija testova, za koje treba dosta vremena da se razvije. -Nas sistem je upitan, jer iako imamo testove, mozda nam fale reagensi, pomocni pribor, osoblje, prostorije itd, jer smo veoma jaki organizatori po prirodi.

Losiji buraz je ovo. Rob je bio taj gradonacelnikToronta sto je umro od raka. Ovaj je daleko smesniji lik.

Iz The Star-a Blasting U.S. President Donald Trump for slapping an embargo on the shipment of crucial pandemic supplies to Canada, Premier Doug Ford says Americans should remember “united we stand, divided we fall.” “We’re stronger together than we are separated. In a major crisis, they want to cut everyone else off? That is totally unacceptable. Canadians wouldn’t do that,” Ford said Saturday at his Queen’s Park teleconference. “When you sit back and you think of your allies and the wars we’ve gone through, and we’ve stood shoulder to shoulder fighting the same enemies. And now we have an enemy and we’re at war and they want to shut things down with their closest ally in the world?” he said. In Ottawa, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau emphasized that Canada is “not looking at retaliatory measures or measures that are punitive” after Trump tightened restrictions to limit the export of 3M’s much-needed N95 masks and other medical equipment to combat COVID-19. While Ford said he agreed with Trudeau’s restraint and hoped diplomacy would prevail, the premier reminded Trump that about 1,000 nurses and other health-care workers live in Windsor and cross the border to work in Detroit every day. “It shouldn’t come down to this. We have 1,000 nurses leaving Ontario that we’re in desperate need (of) going to help Americans,” he said. “How would the people in Michigan feel … if all of a sudden we said, ‘OK, the 1,000 nurses, we’re in desperate need and you need to stay here in Ontario and you aren’t going down to Michigan,’” warned Ford. “That would be a wake-up call for them, but it shouldn’t come down to that. There’s no one that loves America more than I do. They’ve cut out one part of the family. It’s not right,” the premier said. Dougie zaostrava preko medicinskih sestara. Wait, 1000 ide svaki dan u zariste i dolazi nazad u Windsor gde se testiranje obavlja brzinom puza.... 😑 Black Mirror

Ontario duplo manje testova od Kvebeka, BC. Lezerni premijer je dozvolio da Micigen pre krene u ozbiljno testiranje. Pitanje je ko na lokalu uopste veruje u ove brojke, kad u Detroitu ima hiljade slucajeva, a broj sa nase strane granice 10-15. Olupace se Fordu kasnije to sto je na pocetku epidemije bio ‘najpopularniji premijer’ zbog malog broja slucajeva i ‘kontrole situacije’ Kanadjani nisu tolike ovce da im to prodje ispod radara....

ovo je stravicna cifra, nadam se da nije u tom opsegu. Ne vidim kako bi Kinezi onda zaustavili epidemiju.

Vrlo lepo. Izgleda da nagib krive na gore je u korelaciji sa spremnoscu neke drzave da radi mnogo testova i drzi tempo. Koreja, Australija Norveska (Mozda Svica) su zemlje koje su drzale jak tempo testiranja i uhvatile vise slucajeva u ranijoj fazi od ostalih. pogledaj krivu za Norvesku i Svedsku. Krenuli u otkrivanje slucajeva jako, ali su Svedjani uskoro odustali od masovnijeg testiranja i izgledalo je kao da im je broj slucajeva u padu u odnosu na Norvezane. Kanada je testirala konstantno na nekom nivou, a USA je krenula vrlo sporo u toliki broj testova da sada realno pokusavaju na najtezi nacin, sto vise dnevno. + Mene sto se tice matematike vise interesuje starost prijavljenih slucajeva u odnosu na populacioni prosek. Mozda si i ti postirala taj grafik, a onaj Svedski lekar je rekao da je prosek prijavljenih slucajeva 56 god, dok je prosek nacije oko 40. (Nacrtao sam raspodelu kao da je prosek starosti zarazenih 40 god i unutar te krive ucrtao drugu krivu koja predstavlja broj otkrivenih slucajeva na osnovu proseka od 56 god. Cenim na osnovu povrsine ispod te dve krive da je broj asimptomatskih (neprijavljenih u Svedskoj) slucajeva otprilike jednak broju otkrivenih slucajeva.

"We heard people saying maybe we should not do anything [about the coronavirus]. Ride it like a cowboy. Ride that sucker right through. …."