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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53183857 Thousands of Liverpool fans gathered at Anfield to celebrate their side's first title in 30 years Despite being urged to "stay home" by the city's metro mayor because of coronavirus, thousands of fans gathered at Anfield to celebrate. Many of the supporters who congregated at the club's ground wore face masks and some lit flares. A number of Reds players, including goalkeeper Alisson, defender Virgil van Dijk and midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, celebrated together after watching the Chelsea-City game. As the global pandemic disrupted life in England and led to the suspension of the Premier League for three months, Liverpool supporters endured a nervous wait to see how the season would end, with some early suggestions it might have been declared null and void, thus wiping their remarkable efforts from the record books. The Premier League's return this month enabled them to cap their stunning success. However, because of the measures put in place in response to the virus, Liverpool will not be able to celebrate their long-awaited success with their supporters immediately, at least not in the traditional sense. i jos jedan detaljniji clanak: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-53187158

Unfortunately, there is growing evidence that going through a corona infection significantly increases the risk of diabetes. We will only fully recognize the long-term damage of the coronavirus in 10 years. It was the same with SARS 2002/3.

cekam pehar (hvala)

I Nemci se cude kad predju granicu pa vide da Holandezi ne nose maske u prodavnicama (a ovi ih gledaju cudno sto nose maske). Koliko znam nosenje maski po prodavnicama nikada niej bilo preporuceno (stvarno mi nije jasno u cemu je problem i zasto ljudi nece da nose maske ako to malo pomaze). No, sad ces ti moci direktno da izvestavas iz komsiluka. Bas me zanimaju utisci itd.

ja bih ti predlozila da ti ipak nosis masku, sta te briga sto te ostali tako gledaju. ne stiti 100%, ali u nekom stepenu stiti. Holandija je po broju prtvih na milion stanovnika u Evropi odmah iza Svedske i Francuske: 1. San Marino 2. Belgija 3. Andora 4. UK 5. Spanija 6. Italija 7. Svedska 8. Francuska 9. Holandija 10. Irska

vala ako ga je preneo Putinu doci ce nenajavljen u posetu da ga golim rukama zadavi, nece to prepustiti nekoj masini. nego, mozda bude sledio primer americkog mu kolege pa krene da pije preventivno onaj malarija lek.

ovo moze da postane vrlo zanimljivo...

Stos je valjda u tome da Madrid masters mozda i mogu da nazovu regularnim ako im ne dodje pola igraca iz nekih zemalja (popunice nekim Evropljanima), a za DC ne mogu tek tako da izbace npr. Argenitnu ili koju jos zemlju iz koje se ne moze izaci (ne znam sad ko se sve kvalifikovao). Valjda. Plus, verovatno su proracunali da im se finansijski ne isplati.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/06/24/when-covid-19-deaths-are-analysed-by-age-america-is-an-outlier IT IS NOW well-known that, although covid-19 can strike even the very young, older folk face the greatest risk. In hard-hit rich countries, about 60% of all deaths from the disease are among people aged 80 and over. America, however, is an exception. Data released on June 16th by the Centres for Disease Control (CDC) show that the country’s death toll skews significantly younger. There, people in their 80s account for less than half of all covid-19 deaths; people in their 40s, 50s and 60s, meanwhile, account for a significantly larger share of those who die. The median covid-19 sufferer in America is a 48-year-old; in Italy it is a 63-year-old. Drzim pesnice 🤞 Kod moje sestre izgleda ima zarazenih u firmi. Sta da rade, nose maske, provetravaju kancelariju i to je to...

clanak u Telegrafu (malo drugaciji od ostalih): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2020/06/25/novak-djokovics-intent-noble-ensuing-outrage-has-wildly-inconsistent/ Novak Djokovic's intent was noble —the ensuing outrage has been wildly inconsistent Djokovic assumed he was safe in Serbia, but he was mistaken — and other sports, like football, have flouted Covid-19 protocols on pitch Oliver Brown Chief Sports Feature Writer 25 June 2020 • 7:03pm Kicking Novak Djokovic when he is down has become a national sport this week, akin to shaming beachgoers with a craftily long lens. After his Adria Tour events turned into a mobile germ-warfare factory, infecting not just him but his wife, his fitness trainer and two fellow players with Covid-19, he has taken his punishment as a human dartboard. “Bone-headed,” said Nick Kyrgios, a figure with some expertise on that front. “Not a good look,” decried Andy Murray. Such is the price for breaking protocol in the midst of a pandemic: damnation by a confederacy of the pious. Boris Becker, at least, had the decency to show clemency to the world No 1, whom he coached for three years. Having seen the same footage of Djokovic dancing in Serbian nightclubs with his friends, he said: “I want to defend Novak a little. I think the criticism he gets is unfair, and that the reason everybody showed up was the right one. Yes, the partying and the basketball perhaps weren’t necessary. But I used to be 30 years old, and when I see my friends I like to enjoy myself.” It might look like a desperate attempt at solidarity towards a man besieged, but there is sense to Becker’s analysis. While Djokovic’s antics have been derided as a Balkan buddy movie, a sequel to The Hangover transplanted to Belgrade, his exhibitions were conceived as a philanthropic exercise, raising money for humanitarian projects. The problem arose with the optics. For a UK tennis establishment so cowed by Covid that it has refused to permit even 45-minute media passes for this week’s Battle of the Brits at Roehampton, in a London borough with a negligible infection rate, Djokovic’s decision to play for capacity crowds was a leap too far. The hiss of disapproval has already started at Wim­bledon, with chief executive Richard Lewis describing scenes in the Adriatic as “disappointing”. What this pile-on neglects to note is that Djokovic was not bound by any of this country’s rules or strictures. He only had to obey public health guidance in his native Serbia, which, by the time of the first Adria Tour match on June 13, had just 76 cases in the previous 24 hours. Sports crowds had been sanctioned, and social-distancing measures scrapped. True, Djokovic, a naturally tactile type, could have been more observant of guidance to avoid touching and embracing. But it is a stretch to depict any of his conduct as crass or insensitive. Like it or not, the nightspot where he was pictured with his shirt off was open for business. His one mistake, perhaps, was in allowing himself to be shamed with a smartphone. Playing on through a plague is uncharted territory for everybody in sport, and it is devilishly difficult to do so without reproach. Take the PGA Tour, where several golfers and their caddies have withdrawn from the latest event in Connecticut after positive tests. It is scarcely a surprise, given that Covid continues to accelerate across Texas and South Carolina, host states of the tour’s most recent stops. While players have been rebuked for fist-bumping, any fault resides largely with tour officials, whose much-vaunted “bubble” is anything but, with a far-from-uniform testing regime and attendees free to travel between events however they choose. Formula One will discover the same in Austria next week, when Ross Brawn’s “biosphere”, a concept of which he is uncommonly proud, is put to its first test. The FIA has released an 11-page code of conduct that anybody admitted to the paddock must follow, and while the document is heavy on legalese, there is almost zero detail on how the isolation measures can be enforced. There comes a point, as with the lockdown-easing that takes effect in the UK next Saturday, when legislation restricting every facet of life must give way to common sense. This, alas, is where sport is far from a perfect world. For all that Djokovic is the whipping boy of the moment, the outrage is wildly inconsistent. Look at the Premier League, where protocol-flouting grows more flagrant by the day. Remember all those headlines, upon the Bundesliga’s resumption, about distanced goal celebrations? Where have they gone? No sooner had Harry Kane dived to the ground in relief after his strike to sink West Ham this week than Erik Lamela leapt on top of him. Jurgen Klopp, the manager who had told Anfield high-fivers to “put your f------ hands away” in March, appears to be lapsing, too, to judge by his hug with Carlo Ancelotti at the Merseyside derby. The restrictions within which sport must operate are, quite simply, inimical to human nature. The longer they remain in place, the more compliance will falter. Djokovic has discovered the hard way that no country is protected from this disease. No sooner had New Zealand welcomed back rugby fans, in the belief it was Covid-free, than it announced its first two cases for three weeks. Djokovic assumed he was safe in Serbia, but he was mistaken. His intent, though, was noble: to support charities and to help restore the profile of a sport that is on its knees. It is easy to deride him. But in these circumstances, he is as fallible as us all.

Sto je najbolje/najgore, kako se stvari razvijaju u USA, niko ni nece doci da iga na USO. EU sad njima udara "sankcije" (tj. produzava postojece) jer su visoko infektivni. Ako evropski igraci budu isli da igraju u USA morace da idu 14 dana u karantin po povratku, znaci nista od Madrida i Rima, nego teoretski odmah na RG. Sve se bojim da ce Spanci i Francuzi (a i ostali) ovo da rizikuju. Guverner NY propisao 14 dana karantin onima koji dolaze iz raspustenih i razuzdanih saveznih drzava (kao sto je npr. Florida, Teksas, ne znam da li je i Kalifornija ukljucena) - kako ce im Serena, Kei, Osaka i ostali doci da igraju ako budu morali 14 dana da budu u karantinu? Da ne pricam o Juznoamerikancima.

sad sam malo pogledala. Srbija je jos uvek medju zemljama za koje postoji upozorenje i preporuka da se ne posecuju (do valjda 31.8.). Ovde https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/faqs/DE/themen/bevoelkerungsschutz/coronavirus/coronavirus-faqs.html kaze da je dozvoljen ulazak ljudi iz zemalja van EU ako su gradjani EU ili imaju boravisne dozvole/dugorocne vize i vracaju se u to mesto boravka, kao i ako dokazu da imaju neodlozna posla (ako su lekari/medicinsko osoblje, humanitarci, sezonski radnici u poljoprivredi itd.). Ti treba da se pridrzavaju mera koje su odgovarajuce pokrajine usvojile, tj. karantin ako tako nalazu pokrajine. malo nize na ovom sajtu kaze sledece: znaci ako se dolazi iz drzava koje su proglasene kao rizicne (Srbija je tu) mora se u 14 dana karantin. Kako odredjuju koje su zemlje rizicne? - Ako ima vise od 50 novozarazenih na 100000 stanovnika u poslednjih 7 dana, kao i - kvalitativna procena kako se doticna zemlja bori protiv epidemije, koje mere je uvela, broj inficiranih i vrsta sirenja virusa (da li su zarista, ili ravnomerno sirenje virusa...), kapaciteti za testiranje, broj odradjenih testova po stanovniku, da li se jure kontakti, kao i koliko su pouzdani podaci koje drzava objavljuje => pa ti sam zakljuci koliko Srbija ima sanse da je skinu s ove liste dalje pise sledece: According to the regulation, the quarantine obligation does not apply to travelers without symptoms who indicate a disease with COVID-19, as well as to people who have a medical certificate that confirms that there is no evidence of an infection with the SARSCoV coronavirus -2 are present. The medical certificate must come from a member state of the European Union or another state published by the Robert Koch Institute at https://www.rki.de/covid-19-tests and must not be older than 48 hours upon entry. The federal states issue their own quarantine regulations. Please inquire on the website of the federal state to which you are entering or where you live or will be located to find out what the quarantine regulation looks like there. sto sad znaci da su od karantina izuzeti oni koji imaju negativni rezultat testa ne stariji od 48 sati, ali mora biti u akreditovanoj laboratoriji. na sajtu RKO stoji sledece: Molecular biological tests (PCR tests) are currently generally accepted from all countries of the European Union and from the countries listed below, provided that the test has been carried out in a quality-assured (accredited) laboratory (for example accreditation according to ISO 15189, ISO / IEC 17025 or appointment as WHO-COVID-19 reference laboratory). ovde su svi koraci sumirani (tekst na nemackom i engleskom): https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/coronavirus/merkblatt-fuer-reisende.html kaze da se u svakom slucaju moras prijaviti lokalnom Gesundheitsamt-u da znaju da si dosao (pa ce te oni dalje uputiti). pa kaze: ako nemas rezultat testa pre ulaska u Nemacku, mozed da ga odradis po dolasku. (na tom sajtu ne pise dalje kako se to radi, moram dalje da trazim) i KONACNO evo dodjoh do ovog dokumenta: https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/fileadmin/Dateien/3_Downloads/C/Coronavirus/BMG_BZgA_Coronavirustest_Plakat_barr.pdf Please contact your family doctor by phone first. Do not go to the practice without prior appointment. In urgent cases call 116 117. pa bi odgovor na tvoje pitanje trebalo da bude: DA. (ovo mi zvuci kao odgovor onog superkompjutera iz Autostoperskog vodica )

Pa naravno da nikada niko ne govori o zarazenima danas, vec o potvrdjenima na taj dan (koji su mozda testirani tog dana ili nekog od ranijih). Nemaju oni kristalnu kuglu, pa da znaju ko se sve zarazio danas, niti mogu da se teleportuju u buducnost (kao sto Nestorovic prica) pa da pogledaju ko od zarazenih danas se testirao i bio pozitivan. Ako pokusavas da ih opravdas hipotezom da su od svih za koje danas dobiju pozitivni rezultati oni izdvajali samo one rezultate koji su danas i testirani, to je toliko podlo (ako su tako radili) da zasluzuju da budu tuzeni zbog obmane javnosti i nije ti nikakva odbrana KS. Pa nisu oni mala deca pa da sad onako naivno precute pozitivne rezultate onih koji su se koji dan ranije testirali (i sad ti bolesni prosto isceznu, niko ih nigde ne rcuna/reportira kao zarazene). Lepo je sve objasnio onaj profa ciji ste video postavljali (sto je gostovao u nekom jutrnjem programu). Ako se brane "nismo znali, lagali nas" tim gore po njih (i srpske gradjane).

Podcast Prof. Drostena dobio 2 nagrade, od zirija u kategoriji informacije i od "publike", za online novinarstvo.

Na stranu to sto je ponasanje i Novaka i kolega mu bilo nepromisljeno jer je virus jos uvek vrlo prisutan suda okolo (tu ima malo olaksavajucu okolnost zbog lude drzave i "struke" - mada meni nije jasno kako ljudi to ne kapiraju, ali ajde sad, ocigledno mnogi ne). Ovi silni napadi iz inostranstva nemaju nikakve veze s zabrinutoscu za zdravlje Srba i Hrvata (danas Ben Rotenberg poceo da broji ima li mrtvih koje je Novak prakticno ubio ) - Srbi su i onako izolovani, nemaju gde da mrdnu, sigurno nece ugroziti USA i UK. Nego se koristi prilika za politicki obracun. Zil Simon je pricao s Monfom o tome (imas gore). Previse se Novak zamerio mocnicima oko borbe za vece parce kolaca za igrace. Kako da propuste ovu priliku kad se napenalio?

Izvestaj iz Nemacke: Poslednja vest o radnicima Tönniesa: preko 1500 zarazenih (od 7000) radnika, pobeglo im 20 Rumuna iz karantina, a jos jedna grupa je pokusala da pobegne (spakovali kofere i uputili se ka autoputu da ih pokupi neki autobus - znaci organizovano), ali ove uhvatili. Samo me zanima gde li su krenuli i kako nameravaju da prodju sve do Rumunije (preko Austrije/Ceske, Madarske?) Kod stanovnistva od 3500 testiranih nasli samo 3 pozitivna, pa se nadaju da je to dobra indikacija da se virus nije puno prosirio na ostalo stanovnistvo (moze da bude ako su stranci-radnici se drzali svog okruzenja i nisu mesali s domorocima, sto je vrlo verovatno) Napravili su 6 novih mobilnih mesta za testiranje, jedan od njih u nekom hangaru nekog starog aerodroma (drive through). Trebalo bi da sad mogu 10000 testova dnevno da odrade). Inace, prof za higijenu i javno zdravlje (to je bukvalni prevod) pregledao fabriku i zakljucio da je problem AC koji samo vrti vazduh (i tako hladi) a nema nikakvog filtriranja niti ubacivanja novog vazduha, sto je naravno dovelo do toga da se aerozoli i virus dugo i u velikoj koncentraciji zadrzavaju u vazduhu. Sad treba da ugrade filtere (kao u operacionim salama). Plus da koriste UV svetlost. Ministar zdravlja NRW naredio testiranje svih fabrika za obradu mesa. Nasli novo zariste u jednoj fabrici donnera kod Duizburga, za sada 79 inficianih. Ministar misli da to mozemo da iskontrolisemo bez zakljucavanja te oblasti. Videcemo. Inace, kazu radjena neka studija u Ischglu, nasli 42% domorodaca s antitelima (pitanje je da li samo na SARS-Cov-2 ili su tu i ona na corona virus gripa), od kojih je 85% nije ni primetilo bolest. Remdesivir dobio dozvolu (od odgovarajuce evropske agencije) da se koristi za lecenje.

u aprilu sam pratila na CNN izvestaje njihovog komentatora Chris-a Cuomo-a (brata guvernera NY), nekih 50 godina star, koji je dobio virus. Izmedju ostalog preporucio je da se nabavi ta spravica (a on je sigurno imao najbolje lekarske savetnike) i da se meri %O2 u krvi (pominjao je koje su brojke normalne, a koje ne, ne secam se sad). To je potvrdio i lekar koji na CNN komentarise sve vreme pandemiju. Kaze, kod nekih pacijenata se ne primeti po drugim znacima da imaju problem s nedostatkom O2 u krvi, pa je ovo zgodno imati.

pa cilj nije bio zastiti narod vec dobiti izbore...

Gael Monfils asks Gilles Simon his opinion on Adria tour controversy. Gilles Simon : " it is only politics, some won't want to give to much attention on the matter, such as Roland Garros and the US Open, but they will blame Djokovic, saying it is entirely his fault and that their organization will be better. Because what happened there should not impact their own tournament. They are a bunch of people who are very happy to blame Djokovic because he takes up space trying to help other players for other matters. Should have it happened with other players, the newspaper l'Équipe won't have put the subject in two front pages in a row. It is no coincidence it hasn't happened for a while. (Laughs) "The first wave of violence against Djokovic, it is very revealing. , To give a whole page at Noah Rubin who nobody knows , u have to ask : Since when Noah Rubin has a whole page to demolish Djokovic? Imagine that they went to get a lot of people to get to Noah Rubin. He's not the first guy, you say to yourself, "on the news, then there, we absolutely need the opinion of Noah Rubin [laughs]. Alize Lim then ask what Noah Rubin said about Novak ? " Noah Rubin criticized him for not being present at this Zoom meeting. But i want to say : dude Djokovic spent 1500 hours on the phone to defend his case without Rubin knowing it. He accuses him of not having been at the final conference when he had discussed all the subjects with everyone beforehand for months .Novak did a lot more for Noah Rubin than many other guys, but he decided he didn't like him because he wasn't at the final zoom conference. This is the problem we have with some players. When you can give the floor to anyone, you will always find guys who disagree and who do not have an overall vision because they haven't been on the circuit for too long." What hurts me most is when Noah Rubin or another attack Novak is that from all the players present on the Council if is there someone who really tries to help more others it is Novak. You have to realize something, Novak he will earn 0 euro cents more at the end of the year, it does not change his life that we double the prize money in qualifying Grand Slam, but he takes time for other players to take benefit of it. Since Novak Djokovic tries to do a lot of things, both on and off the court, it annoys a lot of people, the USTA in particular and it's quite amazing to see the federal influence we have here in France, the Americans also have it at home. So, when you have a remote-controlled scud from Noah Rubin to Novak Djokovic, you have the right to wonder if it doesn't come from there. "

od 0 do ...n (zavisi od uslova) Razmisli sam: ako ja npr. imam virus ali sam u periodu kad sam infektivna ostala kuci ili samo videla 1-2 osobe i to na velikom rastojanju, napolju - necu nikoga zaraziti. Ali, ako ja te dane provedem po zurkama po diskotekama/splavovima, na koncertima, intenzivno se druzeci s mnogim ljudima, pricajuci/pevajuci/vicuci... mogu zaraziti i hiljade. Vec sam pisala da su s onim sirotim barmenom u Ischglu mogli da povezu nekih 2000 slucajeva samo u Nemackoj. A imamo i onog tipa u Juznoj Koreji koji je nekoliko noci visio po nocnim klubovima i svojevremeno su ga povezali s bar 50 zarazenih (mozda su do sada nasli i vise, nisam ispratila)

Zil analizirao stvar bolje nego novinari kojima je to posao (a ne udaranje loptice). Sta reci...

lepo rece Nestorovic

menadzer je direktor turnira u Becu (koji je pokusavao da pridobije Novaka da tamo igra) i clan ATP Boarda kao predstavnik turnira. Inace, posle Gaskea i Simon je pricao za novine, ovde su isecci: https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-bunch-of-people-happy-see-novak-djokovic-getting-weakened-says-gilles-simon

ma i meni popustili zivci , previse sam dugo na jednom mestu, a napolju lepo vreme, idealno za neku skitnjicu. Elem, kao sto sam vec ranije pisala, ovaj moj predsednik pokrajinske vlade je imao pundravce da sve otvori sto pre bez da malcice bolje osmisli sta i kako. Pa smo sad postali "najgori od sve dece" u Nemackoj. Ako ne zaustave sirenje virusa u one dve opstine moracemo i mi svi ostali u NRW ponovo da zatvaramo mnogo sto-sta. Inace, ljudi iz tih opstina imaju problem jer ih svi gledaju kao gubavce. Nekim ljudima su otkazali gostoprimstvo na odmoru na Baltiku, grebu im automobile ako svrate do nekih susednih mesta, nece da dodju majstori iz drugih mesta da poprave nesto i svasta jos. Ljudi bas nemju empatiju.