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“I know Luka Modric well. He is a good friend. It gives me great joy to watch his football. The atmosphere is spectacular. I am next to Alcaraz and I see his nervous face. He and Nadal are my 7-year-old son's favorite tennis players."

Novak Djokovic looks on from the stands prior to the UEFA Champions League Semi Final Leg Two match between Real Madrid and Manchester City at Estadio Santiago Bernabeu on May 04, 2022 in Madrid, Spain. (Photo by Angel Martinez/Getty Images) Koliko vidim tu su i Marko i Alcaraz, a i ovaj covek iza Novaka lici na oca Rafaela Nadala, pored njega mozda sestra. evo ga i Rafael Nadal i Vishkovic u kadru

ogroman problem je u tome sto je doslo do ogromne polarizacije u drustvu (to se navodi i u onom clanku, gde kaze da se lekari nisu usudjivali da prijave moguce slucajeve nezeljenih reakcija da ih ne bi optuzili za antivaksere). bukvalno su se potezali "epiteti" i kretalo s "lovom na vesticce" i "spaljivanjem vestica na lomaci" na najmanju naznaku da neko nece da se vakcinise itd. U Nemackoj je to npr. bio slucaj s jednim fudbalerom Bajerna iz Minhena, koji je manje-vise na SM i u stampi bio proganjan jer nije hteo da se vakcinise (plus su se nasladjivali kad se potom inficirao i imao neke slabije simptome). ne verujem da se znalo od rane 2021, ali su verovatno s vremenom dobijali sve vise podataka. zato bi bilo zgodno naci taj neki izvestaj Fajzera o kome se prica i onda procesljati malo i videti sta tu ima. Ja konkretno znam da se u decembru 2021 sigurno znalo da Moderna izaziva sasvim solidan broj slucajeva mio- i perikarditisa (a o tome se pricalo i koji mesec ranije, mislim da su skandinavci tada bili izbacili Modernu uopste iz programa vakcinacije). zato kod nas i nije davana kao buster mladjim ljudima. kad sam bila na primarnoj vakcinaciji u maju 2021 pitala sam lekare na mestu vakcinacije oko simptoma za onu trombozu (tad se o tome pricalo za AZ), cisto da potvrdim ono sto sam procitala. elem, komentar je bio da se i kod Fajzera pojavljuju takvi slucajevi, samo redje (uz objasnjenje kako da prepoznam eventualne znake da nesto nije u redu i sta da radim). dakle, u maju prosle godine se znalo da i Fajzer ima neke slicne nuspojave, mada redje od AZ. elem, odredjeni politicari su morali da prebace gnev naroda zbog citave pandemije i sveg sto ona nosi, a sto se oduzilo... ma, znas i sam.

ne znam kakva je rasporedjenost simptoma po starosnim grupama (trebalo bi naci original rad i videti tabele i dijagrame), ali verujem da se ovde prvenstveno govori o mladjoj populaciji ciji imuni sistem preterano reaguje. kod starijih je imuni sistem malcice "usporeniji". konkretno znam da se jos od bar decembra 2021 (a sigurno i ranije) prica o ucestalih pojava mio- i perikarditisa kod muskaraca mladjih od 30 godina. ali je svako takvo pominjanje u javosti (na SM narocito) okarakterisano kao antivakserstvo i sasecano u korenu. pominje se da ima mnogo vise slucajeva maldih sportista koji imaju srcane probleme, mnogo veci % nego sto je uobicajeno za tu starosnu grupu. ali ne pratim sve sportove pa ne mogu da potvrdim na konkretnim slucajevima. posto pratim tenis znam konkretno za 3 slucaja nezeljenih reakcija na vakcinu (sva 3 su fransucki teniseri, ali mozda ih ima vise, samo se niko ne usudjuje da kaze jer ce na njima odmah biti primenjen metod "Novak Djokovic"): Jeremy Chardy (star 35 godina) je primio proslog leta 2. dozu (pretpostavlja Fajzera) i par sedmica posle toga je poceo da oseca slabost na treninzima, nije mogao da trenira i od tada nije odigrao ni jedan turnir. Dao je povodom toga izjavu nekim novinama, ali je taj clanak ostao totalno ignorisan od strane svih ostalih tzv. tensikih novinara. Ugo Humbert (23 godine) je takodje skoro pricao o problemima koji su se pojavili posle vakcinacije (ako me secanje ne vara od negde avgusta prosle godine). odigrao je neku sicu turnira do kraja septembra, poispadao odmah na pocetku (iako je pre toga imao sasvim solidne rezultate) i kaze da su mu lekari na kraju rekli da verovatno ima veze s vakcinacijom). iako vakcinisan, krajem januara (kad je zavrsio nastup u Australiji) je bio inficiran (verovatno omikron), ove godine ima samo 3 pobede i 9 poraza na 8 odigranih turnira. Gael Monfils (35 godina) je imao nezeljene reakcije posle 3. doze (ako se ne varam dobio je negde oko 30.1., par dana kasnije igrao turnir i tu mu nije bilo dobro). mesec dana potom je pauzirao i preskakao je solidan broj turnira koje bi inace igrao (igrao samo na par koji daju velike pare za ispadanje u 1. rundi). postoji i prica za Amerikanku Sofiju Kenin (23 godine) (nije bio clanak vec neki komentar neke bivse americke teniserke) : ona je kao negde u maju prosle godine primila (pretpostavljam JJ) vakcinu, onda je odigrala Roland Garos i Wimbldon i od tada je nije nigde bilo. Kao je bila zakacila virus i od tad ne moze da dodje sebi (s ko zna kakvim propratnim posledicama: zamor, bol u misicima itd.). ove godine je kao pocela da igra, ali to vise nije ni senka nekadasnje teniserke. ovde je verovatno u pitanju long covid: verovanto ona spada u tu grupu mladih ljudi koji su podlozni long covidu. u svakom slucaju nije dobro reagovala na prisustvo genetskog materijala virusa. Nikoloz Basilashvili (30 godina) je nekad u neko doba prosle godine vakcinisan, verovatno negde u novembru-decembru, po zavrsetku sezone (znam posto je bio u Australiji), pa je negde u decembru zakacio virus i od tada ima problema s disanjem (imao je mnogo problema u samoj Australiji, predao je neki mec zbog tih problema, a mislim da sam videla da je i na nekoliko turnira posle toga imao problema s disanjem i bolovima u grudima). Botic van de Zandschulp (26 godina) je u neko doba prosle godine vakcinisan (igrao Australiju, pa je morao biti vakcinisan), onda je negde u februaru bio inficiran (asimptomatican). Prosle nedelje je igrao finale turnira u Minhenu i morao je da preda mec (iako je imao odlicnu priliku za svoju prvu titulu i odlicno je poceo mec) jer je imao ogromne bolove u grudima i probleme s disanjem. Prekid je bio prilicno dramatican, cak nije prisustvovao ni ceremoniji na kraju (sto se gotovo, pa nikad ne desava). Objavio na twiteru da je posle nekih pola sata bio dobro, a juce je igrao mec u Madridu. Sta je uzrok - moze samo da se nagadja. Mozda izlaganje genetskom materijalu virusa? Na turniru u Majamiu (krajem aprila) je ogroman broj igraca predavao ili se povlacio s turnira - mnooogo veci broj nego sto se uobicajeno desava. I generalno ima mnogo vise slucajeva kada se igraci/igracice zale na bolove u grudima i probleme s disanjem. Videla sam i objave neke dve nizerangirane igracice kod kojih su dijagnostikovana ostecenja srca (vakcina ili virus?) U svakom slucaju, virus i njegov genetski materijal nisu uopste naivni i trebalo bi dobro prouciti sta se tu tacno desava, ne brinuti samo o preminulima i onima na intenzivnoj, vec i o ovima koji su prelezali bolest ili imaju slicne posledice posle vakcinacije. Ovo je narocito bitno kod npr. sportista koji se izlazu jakim fizickim naporima.

procitala sam neke komentare da ima neki veliki izvestaj Fajzera (od nekog silnog broja strana) u kome su kao otkrivene mnoge stvari koje neki tumace kao: znali su da je opasno, a cutali su (jos terali ljude da se vakcinisu). E sad, dok sama ne vidim sta tacno pise, ili makar ne procitam komentar nekog cijem sudu verujem, ne mogu da bas primim zdravo-za-gotovo svakojake komentare na twiteru. licno verujem da su naucnici odradili posao korektno i najbolje sto su mogli u datoj situaciji (sa sve izvestajima i raspolozivim podacima). No problem je sto se onda ukljucila politika, politicari i ostali s svakojakim motivima (sam znas kakva je situacija tamo kod vas u Australiji, s otpustanjem ljudi koji nisu vakcinisani i svakojakim drugim budalastinama na koje sam ja povremeno nailazila, a ti ih sigurno mnogo bolje poznajes). Ovde kod nas je npr. sef komisije koja daje preporuke za vakcine bio vrlo oprezan kod odobravanja/potvrdjivanja odobrenja Fajzerove vakcine za decu. Rekao je da je vakcina ok ali da oni licno ne daju preporuku da se vakcinisu sva deca, vec samo ona s rizicaim i ona ciji roditelji, posle razgovora s pedijatrom, to hoce. On licno je rekao da nece vakcinisati svoju decu, sto je bas odjeknulo u javnosti. Takodje, kod nas je u najvecem froju davana Fajzerova vakcina (jer je "nemacka" ) i posle svakojakih prica o AZ, JJ, najvise joj se verovalo. Toliko da kad je trebalo napraviti brzo busterovanje krajem prosle godine (oko pika delte) i kad je malo ponestalo Fajzerove vakcine (bili izbori pa se prethodna Vlada nije vise osecala odgovornom, a nova jos nie bila konstituisana, pa smo u sred pandemije malcice bili u vakuumu i nisu na vreme narucene vakcine ) i onda resili da stariji primaju Modernu, a mladji Fajzera (zbog jace reakcije mladjih na Modernu i ucestale pojave mio- i perikarditisa) - ljudi krenuli da se bune: hoce "nemacku " vakcinu. Elem, ovi nasi su u principu solidnom brzinom reagovali na nova saznanja o nezeljenim efektima: kako kod AZ kad su mladji krenuli da imaju probleme s onim trombozama, tako i kod Moderne za mladje muskarce itd. Licno mislim da ima dosta uticaja sto nam je Vlada ovakva kakva je, s liberalima koji su za sto vece slobode (kao Uros), do socijaldemokrata (i ministra za zdravlje) koji su oprezni s popustanjem mera. Plus ih sad hriscanske demokrate u opoziciji kontrolisu. Videcemo koliko ce da izdrze ovako, balansiranjem.

mladji imaju mnooogo manji rizik od umiranja ili zavrsavanja na intenzivnoj, ali imaju solidan rizik od Long covida, cak i oni potpuno fit i u najboljoj formi. ja bih volela da negde procitam neku analizu/studiju (tj. zakljucke iste) o tome koji su tacno faktori rizika kod npr. mladih, potpuno zdravih ljudi i zasto neki od njih zavrse s long covidom (i slicnim simptomima), a vecina ne. ako bi ovo moglo da se identifikuje onda bi mogla da se radi neka ciljana preventiva zaraze ili da se eventualno prilagodi doza vakcine (racunam da bi s nekom "razblazenom" vakcinom mogli da se izbegnu rizici negativnih efekata vakcinacije - bar mi to zvuci logicno) ili ako se ispostavi da npr. Novavax ne izaziva ovakve efekte onda bi tim ljudima mogla da se daje ta vakcina (ili u krajnjem slucaju kineska s inaktivisanim virusom). U svakom slucaju, posle svega procitanog, nekako mi nije logicno da se ista doza daje i mladim ljudma (s odlicnim imunim sistemom) i starima (s oslabljenim imunim sistemom). Bar sto se tice ovih dosadasnjih vakcina. A zanima me i kakva je situacija s AZ vakcinom (verujem da se ovo u Nemackoj uglavnom odnosi na Fajzera, kao najvise datoj vakcini - 131,5 miliona doza, i malo manje na Modernu, 30 miliona doza), kao i s JJ, Sputnikom, pa u krajnjoj liniji i s Sinofarmom.

pa imao je i Nadal pre negde neko naprsnuce misica tokom, mislim, USO pa je uspeo da izgura s tim (tokom tih meceva je ta povreda malo porasla, pa je posle lecio). znaci, nije nesto sto nije vidjano ranije. ali da ti naprsne rebro (kako? sto rece Keira), da kukas kako si se previjao od bola nedeljama i nisi uopste mogao da treniras, i sad posle svega da bez problema igras - e to je bas onako magicno. plus sve to u ovim godinama. Fed nikako da oporavi koleno, Wawrinka takodje, evo Tim nikako da se vrati, da ne pricamo o Delpu, ali magicna kutija izgleda samo radi magiju na Nadalu. zanima me samo da li je i ovog puta dobio specijalno izuzece da koristi terapije zbog kojih bi inace pao na dopingu (prosle godine samo 2 puta testiran kad nije bio na turnirima, ne znamo da li je to bilo u doba kad je igrao turnire, pa izmedju njih, ili u doba kad je bio na bolovanju i lecio se). neki kazu da od prevelike upotrebe steroida kosti postaju krtije te da je mozda to razlog zasto nekom teniseru napukne rebro (ne znam koliko je ovo tacno). u svakom slucaju - magicno je.

https://www.tennismajors.com/atp/gifted-passionate-exposed-the-incredible-life-of-japans-precocious-owaki-brothers-597649.html

Magicno zaraslo rebro u Magicnoj kutiji.

ti si covek u godinama, tvoji rizici kako od vakcine tako i od virusa su drugaciji od onih za mladje ljude. tako da mi se cini da je tvoja procena/odluka dobra za tebe.

ne samo on, vec svi mi. kad god neko od nas pohvali Lajovica&Co odmah ti krenu lose da igraju i da gube. tako da se ja uzdrzavam od komentara dok s emec ne zavrsi (ne uspeva mi uvek)

Charite je ozbiljna, renomirana univerzitettska klinika, tamo radi Prof Drosten. meni je pola miliona vakcinisanih s ovim nezeljenim efektima (koji traju i po pola godine, a neki i duze) jedan ogroman problem. ako razmislimo onako logicno kako ove vakcine rade onda ima logike zasto postoje ovi slucajevi. unosi se (ili stvara) genetski materijal siljka virusa, koji je zapravo i kod celog/zivog virusa veliki problem za organizam i izaziva raznorazne probleme u raznoraznim delovima ljudskog tela. bilo bi dobro kad bi naucnici ustanovili koji tacno deo tog siljka izaziva koje tacno reakcije kod kojih ljudi (s kojim predispozicijama), pa onda odatle krenuti dalje i izfiltrirati (ako je to moguce) ono sto negativno utice od onog sto ne utice negativno na ljude, a stvara potrebni imuni odgovor. I naravno ne terati mladje ljude da se obavezno vakcinisu, narocito mladje muskarce. sad onako malo glasno da razmisljam: da li je za te mladje ljude bolje da se vakcinisu ili inficiraju? kod vakcine se odjednom daje jedna odredjena (veca) doza "genetskog materijala", dok kod infekcije nemamo tako veliku dozu "virusa" koji odjednom prodire u organizam. kad udje virus u organizam (tih 10-20-100... virusica) oni upadaju u celije i krecu da se razmnozavaju. paralelno krece aktiviranje imunog sistema. pretpostavljam da imuni odgovr nije toliko nagli kao kad se velika doza "genetskog materijala" ubaci vakcinom, vec da se on postepeno pojacava. pretpostavljam onda da je kod mladjih ljudi, s boljim imunim sistemom, ovaj imuni odgovor kod inficiranja bolje balansiran, dok kod vakcinisanja dolazi do preterane/burne reakcije. Kod nas matorih, kojima imuni sistem i nije vise "u cvetu mladosti" bice da je ova burnija reakcija na vakcinaciju ono sto nama treba (pravi balans), ali kod nekih mladjih osoba je to kontraproduktivno. sad je pitanje sta se desava posle ucestalog, ponovljenog vakcinisanja? da li je svaki sledeci put reakcija organizma sve burnija i burnija? i koja druga opcija za imunizaciju kod ovakvog virusa postoji? (nemam pojma, ali valjda naucnici imaju neku ideju). sta drugo (koji deo virusa) ubaciti u ljudski organizam, a da on stvori pravi i potreban imuni odgovor? pravljenjem vakcina na osnovu siljka corona virusa su hteli da preseku lanac reakcija virusa u delu kad ovaj krece da se kaci za "receptore" na celiji, sto mu treba da bi usao unutra i razmnozavao se. da li psotoji neki drugi nacin da se postigne isti efekat ili da se lanac prekine na nekom drugom mestu unosenjem neceg drugog? Ne znam sta bi s onom nekom japanskom vakcinom koja je kao druge generacije i radi malo drugacije od ovih postojecih vakcina. I kakva je situacija s Novavax vakcinom koja radi na malcice drugacijem principu.

uspela sam! Bravo za Lajovica

ima nekih izvestaja i oko problema (za bebe) kod trudnica i dojilja kje su se vakcinisale, ali trazim pouzdan i potpun izvor za to (kazu da je u nekom Fajzerovom izvestaju, ali treba ga naci i onda u celom izvestaju pronaci prave paragrafe).

BRE!!!! ja pokusavan da ponistim post Crnog a ti me sabotiras!

Lajovic (kao i u mnogim mecevima u poslednje vreme) ima snage samo za jedna set.

prenecu i ovde: https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/panorama/corona-impfung-nebenwirkungen-impfschaeden-100.html Charité researcher calls for ambulances for vaccine victims A study on side effects after corona vaccinations is being carried out at the Charite in Berlin. Professor Harald Matthes is leading the study and is calling for more contact points for those affected. The number of serious complications after vaccinations against Sars-CoV-2 is 40 times higher than previously recorded by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI). This is one of the results of a long-term observational study by the Berlin Charité. Study director Professor Harald Matthes is now calling for more contact points for those affected. Study with around 40,000 participants The study “Safety Profile of Covid-19 Vaccines” (“ImpfSurv” for short), which focuses on the effects and side effects of the various vaccines, has been running for a year. Around 40,000 vaccinated people are interviewed at regular intervals throughout Germany. Participation in the study is voluntary and independent of how the vaccines work in the subjects. One result: eight out of 1,000 vaccinated people struggle with serious side effects. "The number is not surprising," explains Prof. Dr. Harald Matthes, head of the study: "It corresponds to what is known from other countries such as Sweden, Israel or Canada. Incidentally, even the manufacturers of the vaccines had already determined similar values in their studies." With conventional vaccines, such as against polio or measles, the number of serious side effects is significantly lower. Some side effects last for months Serious side effects are symptoms that last for weeks or months and require medical attention. These include muscle and joint pain, heart muscle inflammation, excessive reactions of the immune system and neurological disorders, i.e. impairments of the nervous system. "Most side effects, including severe ones, subside after three to six months, 80 percent heal. But unfortunately there are also some that last much longer," reports Professor Matthes. Side effects related to a COVID-19 vaccine can be reported online to the Paul Ehrlich Institute. The aim here is to be able to identify previously unknown risks after vaccination. Doctors: “discuss it openly without being considered anti-vaccination” Anti-Vaxx Around 179 million Covid 19 vaccine doses have been vaccinated in Germany so far. "In view of around half a million cases with serious side effects after Covid vaccinations in Germany, we doctors have to take action," emphasizes Prof. Matthes, who, in addition to his work at the Berlin Charité, is on the board of several medical specialist societies and has been seeing the effect for years of medicinal products are systematically examined. "We have to come to therapy offers, discuss them openly at congresses and in public without being considered anti-vaccination." Victims must be taken seriously It is particularly depressing for those affected that their complaints are often not taken seriously. Doctors in private practice would too often not associate the symptoms with the vaccinations because they were either not prepared for them or because they did not want to position themselves in a heated political mood. This is also evidenced by the many letters to the head of the study, Professor Matthes, in which those affected describe their often months-long search for effective medical help and recognition. They show that suspected cases are not officially reported. And so the numbers of serious vaccination reactions at the Paul Ehrlich Institute, at 0.2 reports per 1,000 vaccine doses, are also significantly lower than in the Charité study. Special clinics for vaccination victims required There are already a number of facilities that would be able to take on at least the initial care of patients with vaccination complications: "We already have several special outpatient clinics for treating the long-term consequences of Covid disease," explains Prof. Matthes. "Many clinical pictures that are known from 'Long Covid' correspond to those that occur as side effects of vaccination." The doctors in such clinics are therefore experienced enough. Now it is about opening the outpatient clinics to patients with vaccination complications. Depending on the extent of the complication, patients could then be referred to specialist departments such as neurology or cardiology. And intensive care units and dialysis centers could also be involved in the treatment: "They have experience with blood washing," adds study leader Matthes. Hemodialysis as therapy Both at the Charité and in other clinics, effective treatments for people with vaccination complications are being developed: "The presence of too many autoantibodies in the blood plasma of those affected is often the cause of the problem," explains Prof. Matthes. "Therefore, it must first be determined which and how many of these autoantibodies are present." Laboratories that can carry out the relevant tests must therefore also be brought on board. As soon as the diagnosis is clear, the aim is to remove the excess antibodies from the blood by means of immune suppression drugs or a special blood wash. The method has been known for a long time, but is too unspecific: "We only want to reduce incorrectly formed autoantibodies, i.e. those that have developed against Sars-CoV-2." The problem, however, is that the treatments for long Covid, including rehabilitation measures, are now paid for by the health insurance companies, but comparable treatments for vaccination complications only in very rare cases. The committed doctor emphasizes that there is an urgent need for improvement here and advises patients and their family doctors: "If the insurance company refuses to cover the costs of a measure, file an objection, if necessary a second time."

https://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/deutschland/panorama/corona-impfung-nebenwirkungen-impfschaeden-100.html Charité researcher calls for ambulances for vaccine victims A study on side effects after corona vaccinations is being carried out at the Charite in Berlin. Professor Harald Matthes is leading the study and is calling for more contact points for those affected. The number of serious complications after vaccinations against Sars-CoV-2 is 40 times higher than previously recorded by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI). This is one of the results of a long-term observational study by the Berlin Charité. Study director Professor Harald Matthes is now calling for more contact points for those affected. Study with around 40,000 participants The study “Safety Profile of Covid-19 Vaccines” (“ImpfSurv” for short), which focuses on the effects and side effects of the various vaccines, has been running for a year. Around 40,000 vaccinated people are interviewed at regular intervals throughout Germany. Participation in the study is voluntary and independent of how the vaccines work in the subjects. One result: eight out of 1,000 vaccinated people struggle with serious side effects. "The number is not surprising," explains Prof. Dr. Harald Matthes, head of the study: "It corresponds to what is known from other countries such as Sweden, Israel or Canada. Incidentally, even the manufacturers of the vaccines had already determined similar values in their studies." With conventional vaccines, such as against polio or measles, the number of serious side effects is significantly lower. Some side effects last for months Serious side effects are symptoms that last for weeks or months and require medical attention. These include muscle and joint pain, heart muscle inflammation, excessive reactions of the immune system and neurological disorders, i.e. impairments of the nervous system. "Most side effects, including severe ones, subside after three to six months, 80 percent heal. But unfortunately there are also some that last much longer," reports Professor Matthes. Side effects related to a COVID-19 vaccine can be reported online to the Paul Ehrlich Institute. The aim here is to be able to identify previously unknown risks after vaccination. Doctors: “discuss it openly without being considered anti-vaccination” Anti-Vaxx Around 179 million Covid 19 vaccine doses have been vaccinated in Germany so far. "In view of around half a million cases with serious side effects after Covid vaccinations in Germany, we doctors have to take action," emphasizes Prof. Matthes, who, in addition to his work at the Berlin Charité, is on the board of several medical specialist societies and has been seeing the effect for years of medicinal products are systematically examined. "We have to come to therapy offers, discuss them openly at congresses and in public without being considered anti-vaccination." Victims must be taken seriously It is particularly depressing for those affected that their complaints are often not taken seriously. Doctors in private practice would too often not associate the symptoms with the vaccinations because they were either not prepared for them or because they did not want to position themselves in a heated political mood. This is also evidenced by the many letters to the head of the study, Professor Matthes, in which those affected describe their often months-long search for effective medical help and recognition. They show that suspected cases are not officially reported. And so the numbers of serious vaccination reactions at the Paul Ehrlich Institute, at 0.2 reports per 1,000 vaccine doses, are also significantly lower than in the Charité study. Special clinics for vaccination victims required There are already a number of facilities that would be able to take on at least the initial care of patients with vaccination complications: "We already have several special outpatient clinics for treating the long-term consequences of Covid disease," explains Prof. Matthes. "Many clinical pictures that are known from 'Long Covid' correspond to those that occur as side effects of vaccination." The doctors in such clinics are therefore experienced enough. Now it is about opening the outpatient clinics to patients with vaccination complications. Depending on the extent of the complication, patients could then be referred to specialist departments such as neurology or cardiology. And intensive care units and dialysis centers could also be involved in the treatment: "They have experience with blood washing," adds study leader Matthes. Hemodialysis as therapy Both at the Charité and in other clinics, effective treatments for people with vaccination complications are being developed: "The presence of too many autoantibodies in the blood plasma of those affected is often the cause of the problem," explains Prof. Matthes. "Therefore, it must first be determined which and how many of these autoantibodies are present." Laboratories that can carry out the relevant tests must therefore also be brought on board. As soon as the diagnosis is clear, the aim is to remove the excess antibodies from the blood by means of immune suppression drugs or a special blood wash. The method has been known for a long time, but is too unspecific: "We only want to reduce incorrectly formed autoantibodies, i.e. those that have developed against Sars-CoV-2." The problem, however, is that the treatments for long Covid, including rehabilitation measures, are now paid for by the health insurance companies, but comparable treatments for vaccination complications only in very rare cases. The committed doctor emphasizes that there is an urgent need for improvement here and advises patients and their family doctors: "If the insurance company refuses to cover the costs of a measure, file an objection, if necessary a second time."

pa rekao je to i pozeleo Boticu brzo ozdravljenje i u kratkom intervjuu posle meca i tokom govora kad je primio pehar. valjda je i to dosta. nece sad valjda da doveka samo o tome pise. a i Botic je vrlo brzo posle povalcen napisao na twiteru da je dobro i da je sve u redu, prosli problemi.