alpiner Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) Quote A consortium led by billionaire Lawrence Stroll has bought a 16.7% stake in Aston Martin for £182 million. The deal, confirmed this morning by a filing with the London Stock Exchange and exclusively revealed by Autocar last year, also includes a £318 million cash infusion through a new rights issue, giving the British car maker a £500 million boost. Stroll also owns the Racing Point F1 team, which under the terms of the new deal will be rebranded as the Aston Martin F1 works team from 2021 onwards. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/breaking-news-billionaire-stroll-takes-major-stake-aston-martin Jako ime, odlična vest za F1. Edited January 31, 2020 by alpiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alpiner Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Rival teams unhappy with RP20 being ‘Mercedes copy’ Date published: February 19 2020 According to a report by Auto Motor und Sport, teams aren’t too impressed with Racing Point using an exact copy of Mercedes’ W10. Racing Point revealed their 2020 challenger, the RP20, on February 17, and straight away the world of motorsport was talking about that bright pink livery. But now, after seeing it hit the track for the first time in pre-season testing, unnamed rival teams are saying the RP20 is an “exact copy” of the W10 after closer inspections. Tobi Grüner ✔@tgruener · 1h Racing Point tech director Andy Green explains why the new RP20 is similar to the old Mercedes W10 in several areas & he reveals which parts they actually got from Mercedes. AMuS story (in German) + gallery:https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/racing-point-rp20-f1-auto-2020/ … Racing Point RP20 für die F1-Saison 2020: Mercedes-Kopie in Pink Der neue Racing Point RP20 erinnert vom Konzept und in den Details stark an den Mercedes des Vorjahres. Wir haben Technik-Chef Andy Green zu seinem neuesten Werk befragt und zeigen die ersten Bilder... auto-motor-und-sport.de Tobi Grüner ✔@tgruener When you talk to other teams they are not impressed by Racing Point running an "exact copy" of last years Mercedes. Unfortunately I'm not alllowed to tell you which teams are complaining. 176 1:46 PM - Feb 19, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 54 people are talking about this Racing Point’s technical director Andrew Green has defended his team’s relationship with Mercedes, though. “We have been working in the Mercedes wind tunnel since May last year,” he told Auto Motor und Sport. “Front and rear suspension and the transmission come one to one from the 2019 Mercedes. “We are only now starting with the new car for 2021.” The similarities are perhaps most noticeable at the front of the side air boxes, though the designs are not identical. Racing Point has also closely followed the front wing design of the W10 with its thin structure and duck bill. “Most of all you would rather not have a nose. The thinner it is, the easier it is to control the Y 250 vertebrae,” Green explained. He also expects Racing Point to take a big step forwards in the midfield battle should the engine gains from Mercedes which they are seeing in the data be replicated on the track. “If we get the data on the line, we will take a giant step forward,” he said. Sergio Perez actually finished the morning session of the opening day of pre-season testing only 0.062s slower than Mercedes’ Valtteri Bottas in P1. And with Green revealing that “Sergio still had a lot of petrol on board and drove the C3 tires on his fast laps,” it would appear that closely following the Mercedes design could serve Racing Point well in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpiner Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Ovakvima treba uvesti koeficijent na konstruktorse poene. Ovo je bukvalno skinuta sa prošlogodišnjeg auta i ofarbano u roze. Bruka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Pa nije da ne lici. A i Has lici na lanjski Ferari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpiner Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 (edited) Ovo je potpuna kopija prednjeg krila, nosa, ogibljenja, kočnica, retreovizora... Tako tajkun postaje "Konstruktor" . Plati i ne bavi se glupostima kao što su inženjeri, razvoj, testiranja... Pitam se zašto dobijaju novac kao konstruktori.. Edited February 19, 2020 by alpiner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Pa dobro makar se za farbu isprsio, mogao je da ga ostavi u originalnoj boji. I opet mu dzabe sve to kad mu je potomak sekund sporiji od timskog kolege. Usrace se u zivot nama, vama i ostaloj buraniji iz sredine tabele ali njegov sin ce i dalje biti taksista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Al' ga je opravio svaka mu cast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpiner Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Bruka, to je isti auto. Auto farbanje-lakiranje u konkurenciji konstruktora Edited February 20, 2020 by alpiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpiner Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 Wolff buys shares in Aston Martin https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/wolff-buys-shares-in-aston-martin/4782007/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/14/analysis-why-racing-point-is-under-protest-by-renault-and-the-loophole-which-could-clear-them/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzoni_m Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 https://www.planetf1.com/news/racing-point-f1-controversy/?fbclid=IwAR2EPMimj6gn3PSpXhRKnWer0sqiQehG0doNtRrUhgZ7w1dQMoYKNciZ5IY Zanimljivo. Potpuno sam podeljenog misljenja oko cele ove frke sa RP. Sa jedne strane mi je drago da rade to sto rade. Koriste i rastezu pravilnik maximalno, jer je trenutni debilan. Potpuni debilizam sa pravilima i pokusajima da na mala vrata uvedu standardizovane delove. Sa druge strane mi je zao drugih manjih timova i glupo je, hocu da RP razvija sam, da se vide njihove ideje i pristup resenju probelma zvani napraviti F1 auto. Opet, da su drugi timovi u situaciji u kojoj je RP uradili bi isto. HAS da cuti, radio je isto, AT takodje, samo sto su njihovi "orginali" manje dominantni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downforce Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Znao sam da nas sve ovo ceka. I evo, stiglo je. I bice sve gore, do momenta kada se neko od "donora" povuce i svi ostali ostanu bez gaca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alen13ASC Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Počelo je počelo... https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/racing-point-mercedes-corners-faster/4839833/ Izvinjavam se za sliku ispod ali ovo opisuje sve ovo... https://i.imgflip.com/386xre.png Ne znam više šta da napišem kada ste gore objasnili, ali kako da se recimo Meklaren i Reno bore protiv dizajna dominantnog prošlogodišnjeg Mercedesa kada je isti jedan od najboljih bolida ikada. Svaćam šta Radoje priča ali opet treba sagledati realnu stranu. Što je najore počelo je prcanje preko medija, pišanje po Meklarenu i Renou, twitovi koji pišu RP i Mečka su da se ispovraćaš. Užasno nesportski 😞 Ovo je isto kao kada prepisuješ u školi i dobiješ 5 a glup si ko k***c. I onda kreneš stramputice u životu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpiner Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 Toto je mešetar i govnar koji unistava sport poput Flavia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/22/did-the-fia-really-overlook-racing-points-disputed-brake-ducts-and-will-it-matter/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Pink Mercedes uhvacen na delu - sad samo ostaje da se vidi hoce li FIA intervenisati ili ce politika da prevakne: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesdin Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) Još da nahvataju krivca za špijunažu u Ferariju. Edited August 4, 2020 by Stevapn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 https://www.racefans.net/2020/08/03/ferrari-wade-into-racing-point-legality-row-with-letter-to-f1-and-fia/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duh sa sekirom Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I šta se dešava ako FIA odluči da RP bolidi nisu u skladu s pravilima? Ovi svakako ne mogu za ovu trku da ih dovedu u legalno stanje. Je l' to znači da ni ovog vikenda nećemo videti Hulka u trci? S obzirom kolika je dubina problema, pitanje da li RP može do kraja sezone da „legalizuje“ bolide. Je l to znači da će ih isključiti iz sezone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 56 minutes ago, Duh sa sekirom said: I šta se dešava ako FIA odluči da RP bolidi nisu u skladu s pravilima? Ovi svakako ne mogu za ovu trku da ih dovedu u legalno stanje. Je l' to znači da ni ovog vikenda nećemo videti Hulka u trci? S obzirom kolika je dubina problema, pitanje da li RP može do kraja sezone da „legalizuje“ bolide. Je l to znači da će ih isključiti iz sezone? Jedino sto je upitno u ovom trenutku su hladnjaci za kocnice - njih tim mora sam da dizajnira i ako se dokaze da je RP vozio Mercedesov dizajn bice diskvalifikovani sa dosadasnjih trka. Ako imaju svoj dizajn (proslogodisnji?) koji moze da se ubudzi nista ih ne sprecava da to koriste u ostatku sampionata. (Naravno, hladnjaci su dizajnirani tako da rade u sadejstvu sa aerodinamikom bolida, da umiruju turbulencije nastale iza prednjih tockova i usmeravaju vazduh s njih tacno tamo gde treba, pa bilo koji drugi dizajn nece funkcionisati s Mercedesovom aerodinamikom i imace mlohavi kurac od performansi.) Ovde je frka to sto su svi bitni delovi skriveni unutra, pa cela prica da je RP skinuo dizajn lanjskog Mercedesa sa fotografija pada u vodu na ovome jer ne postoje takve fotografije koje mogu to da prikazu - sto je "smoking gun" da su dizajn nabavili na nepropisan nacin - zato ih Reno protestvuje bas na kocnicama a ne na statijaznam prednjem krilu ili nekoj vidljivoj komponenti. I zato je Reno insistirao ove zime da se ovi sistemi skinu s liste dozvoljenih sklopova za preprodaju, sto je i prihvaceno pa sada timovi moraju da ih sami dizajniraju, navodno su imali info jos prosle godine da ce RP da vozi kopiju Mercedesa pa su unapred postavili zakopanu minu da ovi nagaze na nju. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzoni_m Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I dalje ne kapiram sta ce Reno da dobije. Delovi su na dozvoljenoj listi, znaci mogli su da “kupe”. Tek od zime tim mora sam da ih napravi. Ako je vec bilo “dizajnirano” pre toga nema sta da se bune. Jedino za sledecu sezonu posto se isti bolidi voze. To ima smisla. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radoye Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Ne, ti delovi nisu dozvoljeni za ovu sezonu (bili su za proslu, sada vise nisu). RP je mogao legalno da ih kupi prosle godine ali ih ne moze koristiti ove godine, ako se ispostavi da koriste identican dizajn to je prekrsaj i moraju biti diskvalifikovani. Cak i da su ih rasklopili pa tako prekopirali i to je protiv pravila jer ovi delovi koji su dozvoljeni za kupovinu se ne smeju modifikovati ni na koji nacin, od snabdevaca dobijes deo i podatke kako da ga instaliras i to je to, ne smes da ga rastavljas, ne smes nista da radis s njima osim da ih montiras na bolid i vozis. To za ove koji su legalni, a kao sto rekoh sklopovi za hladjenje kocnica su od zimus skinuti sa te liste i sad timovi moraju sami da ih dizajniraju. A fora je u tome sto je kod ovih delova sva "magija" unutra i ne vidi se na fotkama pa ih je nemoguce prekopirati na nacin na koji RP tvrdi da je prekopirao ceo Mercedesov bolid, i ako ih na ovome uhvate to je prakticno dokaz da ni ostalo nisu sa fotki kopirali nego su imali uvid u Mercedesov dizajn sto je opet ilegalno, bez obzira da li im je Mercedes sam dao ili su spijunirali. Pitanje je samo da li je sva krivica na strani RP ili i Mercedes treba da popase kaznu. (Navodno, neke teorije zavera kazu da je Mercedes dao RP uvid u dizajn kompletnog bolida u zamenu za njihovo vreme u vazdusnom tunelu i CFD - sto RP svakako koristi kod Mercedesa, i sto bi kao trebalo da objasni otkud Mercedesu ovolika prednost ove godine; nisam bas sklon da verujem da bi u Mercedesu bili toliko glupi da pokusaju ovako nesto jer rizik da budu uhvaceni i izbaceni iz sampionata je prevelik.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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