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Pa USO je i smislio da ih prakticno drzi pod kljucem sve vreme: smestaj u hotelu koji je na aerodromu (bukvalno, u hotelu koji je zapravo renovirani stari deo aerodroma - kakav li je tu tek mir i tisina kad avioni slecu... jos sam osecaj da si pod kljucem sigurno nije najbolji za mentalnu pripremu pred meceve), transport do kompleksa u tacno definisanim kolima/prevozu, tu izolacija po zasebnim prostorijama za nosioce (2x32, ne znam da li se ovo odnosi i na dublove) - to je prostor koji je ranije koriscen za VIP-ovce i ostale "drangulije" kojih nece biti (jer nema gledalaca). Jos je prvobitna verzija bila da samo mogu jednu osobu da povedu, sto rece Raonic: moraju da biraju izmedju zdravlja i tenisa (fitnes trener ili teniski trener) - sto je suludo. Negde sam procitala komentar u stilu: kako mogu prakticno da propisu ograncenje kretanja (iliti zatvor) za tenisere kad to ne vazi za stanovnike USA? Ovo je prakticno zatvorska osuda na 3-4 nedelje. A bas me zanima kako ce da se izvede igranje Washingtona (gde ne znamo kakve ce mere biti), pa odatle odlazak za NY. Jedan veliki rizik je prekookeanski let (6+ sati) u komercijalnom avionu (pa makar i u biznis klasi) gde ima raznih ljudi s raznih strana sveta. Da ne pricam o tome sto ovi iz latinske Amerike ne mogu da izadju iz zemalja do kraja avgusta (ne znam ima li uopste nekih letova). Pa onda odluka EU da banuje putnike iz Amerike 8to bi valjda trebalo sutra-prekosutra da odluce) i obavezan karantin 14 dana. Znaci, ko god ode na USO nece moci da igra Madrid i vrlo verovanto RIm, na stranu sto nece moci da trenira. Jos sto je guverner NY uveo meru 14 dana karatina za one koji dolaze iz saveznih drzava koji ne drze virus pod kontrolom, kakvi su Florida, Kalifornija, Teksas. Jos ce ispasti da je Serenina gradnja terena s identicnom podlogom kao USO promasena investicija . Kei, Osaka su takodje na Floridi. Na kraju ce im se takmiciti samo Njujorcani. I GS titulu ce da osvoji Noa Rubin. Plus politicki/socijalni nemiri i nestabilnost.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53183857 Thousands of Liverpool fans gathered at Anfield to celebrate their side's first title in 30 years Despite being urged to "stay home" by the city's metro mayor because of coronavirus, thousands of fans gathered at Anfield to celebrate. Many of the supporters who congregated at the club's ground wore face masks and some lit flares. A number of Reds players, including goalkeeper Alisson, defender Virgil van Dijk and midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, celebrated together after watching the Chelsea-City game. As the global pandemic disrupted life in England and led to the suspension of the Premier League for three months, Liverpool supporters endured a nervous wait to see how the season would end, with some early suggestions it might have been declared null and void, thus wiping their remarkable efforts from the record books. The Premier League's return this month enabled them to cap their stunning success. However, because of the measures put in place in response to the virus, Liverpool will not be able to celebrate their long-awaited success with their supporters immediately, at least not in the traditional sense. i jos jedan detaljniji clanak: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-53187158

Stos je valjda u tome da Madrid masters mozda i mogu da nazovu regularnim ako im ne dodje pola igraca iz nekih zemalja (popunice nekim Evropljanima), a za DC ne mogu tek tako da izbace npr. Argenitnu ili koju jos zemlju iz koje se ne moze izaci (ne znam sad ko se sve kvalifikovao). Valjda. Plus, verovatno su proracunali da im se finansijski ne isplati.

clanak u Telegrafu (malo drugaciji od ostalih): https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2020/06/25/novak-djokovics-intent-noble-ensuing-outrage-has-wildly-inconsistent/ Novak Djokovic's intent was noble —the ensuing outrage has been wildly inconsistent Djokovic assumed he was safe in Serbia, but he was mistaken — and other sports, like football, have flouted Covid-19 protocols on pitch Oliver Brown Chief Sports Feature Writer 25 June 2020 • 7:03pm Kicking Novak Djokovic when he is down has become a national sport this week, akin to shaming beachgoers with a craftily long lens. After his Adria Tour events turned into a mobile germ-warfare factory, infecting not just him but his wife, his fitness trainer and two fellow players with Covid-19, he has taken his punishment as a human dartboard. “Bone-headed,” said Nick Kyrgios, a figure with some expertise on that front. “Not a good look,” decried Andy Murray. Such is the price for breaking protocol in the midst of a pandemic: damnation by a confederacy of the pious. Boris Becker, at least, had the decency to show clemency to the world No 1, whom he coached for three years. Having seen the same footage of Djokovic dancing in Serbian nightclubs with his friends, he said: “I want to defend Novak a little. I think the criticism he gets is unfair, and that the reason everybody showed up was the right one. Yes, the partying and the basketball perhaps weren’t necessary. But I used to be 30 years old, and when I see my friends I like to enjoy myself.” It might look like a desperate attempt at solidarity towards a man besieged, but there is sense to Becker’s analysis. While Djokovic’s antics have been derided as a Balkan buddy movie, a sequel to The Hangover transplanted to Belgrade, his exhibitions were conceived as a philanthropic exercise, raising money for humanitarian projects. The problem arose with the optics. For a UK tennis establishment so cowed by Covid that it has refused to permit even 45-minute media passes for this week’s Battle of the Brits at Roehampton, in a London borough with a negligible infection rate, Djokovic’s decision to play for capacity crowds was a leap too far. The hiss of disapproval has already started at Wim­bledon, with chief executive Richard Lewis describing scenes in the Adriatic as “disappointing”. What this pile-on neglects to note is that Djokovic was not bound by any of this country’s rules or strictures. He only had to obey public health guidance in his native Serbia, which, by the time of the first Adria Tour match on June 13, had just 76 cases in the previous 24 hours. Sports crowds had been sanctioned, and social-distancing measures scrapped. True, Djokovic, a naturally tactile type, could have been more observant of guidance to avoid touching and embracing. But it is a stretch to depict any of his conduct as crass or insensitive. Like it or not, the nightspot where he was pictured with his shirt off was open for business. His one mistake, perhaps, was in allowing himself to be shamed with a smartphone. Playing on through a plague is uncharted territory for everybody in sport, and it is devilishly difficult to do so without reproach. Take the PGA Tour, where several golfers and their caddies have withdrawn from the latest event in Connecticut after positive tests. It is scarcely a surprise, given that Covid continues to accelerate across Texas and South Carolina, host states of the tour’s most recent stops. While players have been rebuked for fist-bumping, any fault resides largely with tour officials, whose much-vaunted “bubble” is anything but, with a far-from-uniform testing regime and attendees free to travel between events however they choose. Formula One will discover the same in Austria next week, when Ross Brawn’s “biosphere”, a concept of which he is uncommonly proud, is put to its first test. The FIA has released an 11-page code of conduct that anybody admitted to the paddock must follow, and while the document is heavy on legalese, there is almost zero detail on how the isolation measures can be enforced. There comes a point, as with the lockdown-easing that takes effect in the UK next Saturday, when legislation restricting every facet of life must give way to common sense. This, alas, is where sport is far from a perfect world. For all that Djokovic is the whipping boy of the moment, the outrage is wildly inconsistent. Look at the Premier League, where protocol-flouting grows more flagrant by the day. Remember all those headlines, upon the Bundesliga’s resumption, about distanced goal celebrations? Where have they gone? No sooner had Harry Kane dived to the ground in relief after his strike to sink West Ham this week than Erik Lamela leapt on top of him. Jurgen Klopp, the manager who had told Anfield high-fivers to “put your f------ hands away” in March, appears to be lapsing, too, to judge by his hug with Carlo Ancelotti at the Merseyside derby. The restrictions within which sport must operate are, quite simply, inimical to human nature. The longer they remain in place, the more compliance will falter. Djokovic has discovered the hard way that no country is protected from this disease. No sooner had New Zealand welcomed back rugby fans, in the belief it was Covid-free, than it announced its first two cases for three weeks. Djokovic assumed he was safe in Serbia, but he was mistaken. His intent, though, was noble: to support charities and to help restore the profile of a sport that is on its knees. It is easy to deride him. But in these circumstances, he is as fallible as us all.

Sto je najbolje/najgore, kako se stvari razvijaju u USA, niko ni nece doci da iga na USO. EU sad njima udara "sankcije" (tj. produzava postojece) jer su visoko infektivni. Ako evropski igraci budu isli da igraju u USA morace da idu 14 dana u karantin po povratku, znaci nista od Madrida i Rima, nego teoretski odmah na RG. Sve se bojim da ce Spanci i Francuzi (a i ostali) ovo da rizikuju. Guverner NY propisao 14 dana karantin onima koji dolaze iz raspustenih i razuzdanih saveznih drzava (kao sto je npr. Florida, Teksas, ne znam da li je i Kalifornija ukljucena) - kako ce im Serena, Kei, Osaka i ostali doci da igraju ako budu morali 14 dana da budu u karantinu? Da ne pricam o Juznoamerikancima.

Na stranu to sto je ponasanje i Novaka i kolega mu bilo nepromisljeno jer je virus jos uvek vrlo prisutan suda okolo (tu ima malo olaksavajucu okolnost zbog lude drzave i "struke" - mada meni nije jasno kako ljudi to ne kapiraju, ali ajde sad, ocigledno mnogi ne). Ovi silni napadi iz inostranstva nemaju nikakve veze s zabrinutoscu za zdravlje Srba i Hrvata (danas Ben Rotenberg poceo da broji ima li mrtvih koje je Novak prakticno ubio ) - Srbi su i onako izolovani, nemaju gde da mrdnu, sigurno nece ugroziti USA i UK. Nego se koristi prilika za politicki obracun. Zil Simon je pricao s Monfom o tome (imas gore). Previse se Novak zamerio mocnicima oko borbe za vece parce kolaca za igrace. Kako da propuste ovu priliku kad se napenalio?

Gael Monfils asks Gilles Simon his opinion on Adria tour controversy. Gilles Simon : " it is only politics, some won't want to give to much attention on the matter, such as Roland Garros and the US Open, but they will blame Djokovic, saying it is entirely his fault and that their organization will be better. Because what happened there should not impact their own tournament. They are a bunch of people who are very happy to blame Djokovic because he takes up space trying to help other players for other matters. Should have it happened with other players, the newspaper l'Équipe won't have put the subject in two front pages in a row. It is no coincidence it hasn't happened for a while. (Laughs) "The first wave of violence against Djokovic, it is very revealing. , To give a whole page at Noah Rubin who nobody knows , u have to ask : Since when Noah Rubin has a whole page to demolish Djokovic? Imagine that they went to get a lot of people to get to Noah Rubin. He's not the first guy, you say to yourself, "on the news, then there, we absolutely need the opinion of Noah Rubin [laughs]. Alize Lim then ask what Noah Rubin said about Novak ? " Noah Rubin criticized him for not being present at this Zoom meeting. But i want to say : dude Djokovic spent 1500 hours on the phone to defend his case without Rubin knowing it. He accuses him of not having been at the final conference when he had discussed all the subjects with everyone beforehand for months .Novak did a lot more for Noah Rubin than many other guys, but he decided he didn't like him because he wasn't at the final zoom conference. This is the problem we have with some players. When you can give the floor to anyone, you will always find guys who disagree and who do not have an overall vision because they haven't been on the circuit for too long." What hurts me most is when Noah Rubin or another attack Novak is that from all the players present on the Council if is there someone who really tries to help more others it is Novak. You have to realize something, Novak he will earn 0 euro cents more at the end of the year, it does not change his life that we double the prize money in qualifying Grand Slam, but he takes time for other players to take benefit of it. Since Novak Djokovic tries to do a lot of things, both on and off the court, it annoys a lot of people, the USTA in particular and it's quite amazing to see the federal influence we have here in France, the Americans also have it at home. So, when you have a remote-controlled scud from Noah Rubin to Novak Djokovic, you have the right to wonder if it doesn't come from there. "

Zil analizirao stvar bolje nego novinari kojima je to posao (a ne udaranje loptice). Sta reci...

menadzer je direktor turnira u Becu (koji je pokusavao da pridobije Novaka da tamo igra) i clan ATP Boarda kao predstavnik turnira. Inace, posle Gaskea i Simon je pricao za novine, ovde su isecci: https://www.sportskeeda.com/tennis/news-bunch-of-people-happy-see-novak-djokovic-getting-weakened-says-gilles-simon

sad sam gledala intervju koji je radio Ivan Ivanovic za svoju emisiju. Novak kaze da su za turnire pre ove egzibicije bili obezbedili nagradni fond od po 40000 (valjda eura) za zenski i za muski turnir (i u BG i u Zadru), a da je ista suma bila namenjena pobedniku koji bira charity kojima ce da pokloni. Tim je izabrao neku deciju bolnicu u Becu (ako se ne varam: za lecenje raka) i neki fond za decu koja imaju problem s "staklenim kostima" ako se to tako kaze (to je ono kad su kosti krhke pa se lako lome). Svi top igraci su igrali za dzabe. Od fonda u Zadru je jedan deo isao za gradnju njihovog teniskog centra u Zagrebu. Znaci, sve je to bilo lepo smisljeno, ali kao prvo trebalo je da se testiraju igraci kad su usli u zemlju (ali to valjda nije obaveza u Srbiji), pre turnira, da drze odstojanje medjusobno, ne grle se niti rukuju, ne mesaju s masom, niti da okupljaju masu za slikanje itd. (ali, ako je "struka" rekla da moze sta ocekivati od udaraca loptica). I naravno da nisu trebali da idu u taj kafic i partijaju. Da su se ovako ponasali velika je verovatnoca da su mogli da prodju bez zaraze, kako igraci tako i publika - sto se konkretno tice turnira, ne mislim na bilo kakve druge aktivnosti po Beogradu bilo koga, kao sto i sami znate. Ivanisevic kaze sledece: sto u sustini ne iznenadjuje jer je virus bio medju ljudima koji su bili u njihovoj okolini i ko zna ko je kome preneo i kad. Vrlo verovatno da su svi oni dobili virus od razlicitih osoba. Takodje, ne zarazi se svako ko je bio u blizini inficiranog, a i bilo bi dobro da se svi ponovo testiraju za koji dan (jer od zaraze do trenutka kada u grlu ima dovoljno virusa da ga test detektuje ipak prodje koji dan).

http://sportklub.rs/Tenis/ATP/a335045-Sad-su-svi-mnogo-pametni-moderno-je-napadati-Novaka.html

Ma taj Neven je nevidjena sirovina. Isao je onaj prilog gde kao pokusava da prica s 3 devojke u Zadru koje su bile zaduzene za gledaoce na tribinama. Viskovica nisam slusala (ima li na njihovom sajtu/youtubetu?)

igrale su zene u Ceskoj istog vikenda kao u BG, sve njihove igracice igrale, bilo publike na tribinama, recimo pola kapaciteta (valjda su za toliko dobili dozvolu i u Beogradu, cini mi se da i nije bilo 100% puno). Sad, mislim da je u Ceskoj jos uvek na snazi da svi nose maske u javnosti.

volim kako svi postuju slobodu misljenja, religijskih i ostalih opredeljenja... da ne pricam o slobodi izbora sta ce da jede (posto je sad i glutenfree jedenje problematicno ) jednom poslusa oficijelnu "struku" (doduse srpsku, na celu s Nestorovicem) i vidi do ceg tu dovede... covek bi pomislio da im njihov Premijer nije fasovao coronu tako sto je prkosio virusu (a on bar nije priuceni lupac loptice), da niko od njih nije vernik/religiozan i nije nikada praktikovao ni jedan verski obred (pricesce s sve onim "isceliteljskim hlebom i vinom/vodom" kao Hristovim telom i krvlju... i ostalo) - sve sam ateista do ateiste, zagovornik nauke, ako ne i sam doktor nauka, da ne pricam sto tih njuejdzista nigde nema, samo su Novak i gospodza mu upetljani u to. Ne, niko u UK nije palio 5G antene... volim sto sad svi iskaljuju svoj bes i frustraciju na Novaku da nije njega ne bi bilo ni korone, nii zarazenih, ni umrlih. A tek sto su tako naprasno zabrinuti za zrtve po Srbiji... cek dok McL vidi ovo: dobro da nisu ispratili koje je sve izjave imao Dr Kon, a tek kolega mu Nestorovic (koji je izjavio da je korona pobedjena, pandemija gotova, i da na svu srecu sad imamo ponovo ubistva i pljacke banki ). covek bi pomislio da je Novak prkosio neustrasivim srpskim borcima protiv corone i bez njihovog odobrenja organizovao takmicenje s ciljem da pobije sve Srbe! i posle svega kaze autor: a cek dok Fed fanovi vide ovaj deo: (dobro da Boxy ne zalazi na ovu temu ) kakva vremena da ga nazovu GOAT-om , pa tek jednim od najvecih sportista u modernoj istoriji a volim i ovaj deo kad je opet on sam kriv sto je kao decak razvio mehanizme da se izbori s strahotama rata: kao i sto su abolirali Wimbldonsku publiku, koja ga maltretira (mada su i priznali, mozda i po prvi put, da ga je publika maltretirala) - kriv je sto je razvio mehanizme da s tim izadje na kraj (kad zrtva postane kriva sto se nije slomila pred siledzijom):

Ma znam sta si hteo da kazes, ali nije tu kriva politicka korektnost vec "interpretacija" i zloupotreba iste.

Na zalost nije bas sve tako. Postoje pravi monstrumi. Mi smo ovde bas prosle nedelje imali ogroman slucaj gde su pronasli sediste grupe pedofila, u sred nekog naselja s onako fino porodicnim kucicama. Seksualno su zlostavljali decake od 5, 10, 12 godina, sve to snimali i delili na dark netu (i to sve godinama, umrezeni s grupama iz nekoliko drugih gradova). Imali su visoko profesionalni server s svim mogucim zastitama. I niko od rodbine/komsija/prijatelja/kolega nije nista primetio. Inspektori koji rade na slucaju su toliko bili zgrozeni time sta su videli, prosto vidis da ljudi samo sto ne povrate. A vec par meseci istrazuju slucaj grupe pedofila koji su cak vodili neki omladinski/decji kamp i godinama seksualno zlostavljali decu. I to nije jedini slucaj. Prosto da ti se zeludac prevrne. I jos milion drugih, strasnih (i manje strasnih, ali takodje traumaticnih) prica, da ne pisem sad dalje jer ovo nije mesto.

Pa nulti pacijent je bio Krajinovic (sto se tice tenisera, da ne pricam o VIP osobama koe su se sve vreme muvale oko njih i razmenjivale aerozole), bio na Cecinoj zurci 3.6., pa se 10.-11.6. testirao i prvi test bio pozitivan a drugi negativan (a kolega Obradovic rece i da je imao neke male simptome). A po novinama je objavljeno da je Ceca 10.6. odradila test (prvo na antitela - negativan, pa PCR - pozitivan), ponovila ga 15.6. i bila negativna. Sve se uklapa u poznate inkubacione periode i periode infektivnosti: i Ceca, i Krajinovic, i Dimitrov - isti tok bolesti. Dimitrov je bio najinfektivniji na dan igranja kosarkaske utakmice, Krajinovic negde 9.6. Da li se tada i Novak zarazio, ili ranije (pa sad vise ne moze da mu se nadje virus PCR - testom) - to su sad samo detalji. Kako li su se Viktor i zena mu zarazili (oni nisu bili u Zadru) da dobiju virus od Dimitrova kad je ovaj bio infektivan? Zena bila pozitivna u petak, Viktor u nedelju. pa proracunaj sta se desavalo 7 dana ranije. A ako je Novak verovao Nestorovicu - i treba da mu se sve ovo desava! (bas me zanima kako li ce da mu Nestorovic "objasni" sta se desilo, da se opravda Noletu-Tesli).

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/sports/tennis/djokovic-exhibition-positive-tests-coronavirus.html?smid=tw-share

evo ovde jedna beba na Filipinima (29 dana stara) umrla: https://www.srbijadanas.com/vesti/svet/najmlada-zrtva-korona-virusa-preminula-beba-stara-29-dana-2020-04-16 jedna trudnica u Luizijani se preveremeno porodila i beba umrla: https://www.srbijadanas.com/vesti/svet/tuga-trudnica-zarazena-korona-virusom-se-prevremeno-porodila-beba-umrla-posle-samo-jednog-dana-2020-04-06 (valjda je ovaj sajt pouzdan) beba u Velsu: https://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/svet/3189359-umrla-beba-stara-samo-tri-dana-majka-se-zarazila-korona-virusom-pred-sam-porodjaj nije naivno

mislim da je neka beba umrla u Srbiji. @zoe Bg? trebalo bi kao da trudnice nisu specijalno vise u opasnosti od vrsnjakinja koje nisu trudne. mislim da sam negde citala/gledala neku izjavu jedne trudnice koja je bila zarazena i bila u bolnici (doduse ne na intenzivnoj), ako me secanje ne vara, nije joj bilo svejedno.

malo lepih vasti: https://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/svih-11-karlovackih-tenisaca-koji-su-bili-u-zadru-negativno-na-koronavirus/2192373.aspx Svih 11 karlovačkih tenisača koji su bili u Zadru negativno na koronavirus mada trebalo bi da ostanu u karantinu naredne 2 sedmice i da se prati stanje.

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