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11 hours ago, Slavisa iz Tavankuta said:
Sve je jedna budalastina. Namerno se stvara panika. Koga onda briga broj pozitivnih da li je 10 ili 100000
Slavisa, veoma cenim tvoj doprinos na drugim temama.
Na ovoj - seres.
A nisam panicar, samo imam nekog jebenog iskustva kao zdravstveni radnik.
Prvo, totalni morbiditet (tj. smrtnost po broju stanovnika za odredjeni period) je povecan. OK, nisu svi umrli od/zbog corone, ali niko jos ove godine nije poginuuo u padu aviona (jer ne lete) i ljudi manje putuju ili se biju u kafanama (jer su zatvorene).
Logicno je da corona uzrokuje i vise sranja.
Respiratora ima, ali ih ima vec i vise nego ljudi, zdravstvenih profesionalaca, koji znaju da njima rukuju. Laicki: na svetu ima vise klesta nego automehanicara, tj. klesta ne pomazu kad nema ko da zna kako i zasto da ih stisne.
"Ugrozene kategorije" nisu samo "stari i gojazni" nego je najugrozenija kategorija "zdravstveni radnici." Zato jer se dnevno (ma sta dnevno, minutno!) srecu sa virusom. Pa se ti *ebi ako te zahvati slepo crevo, a hirurzi i sestre-instrumentarke su u izolaciji ili vec bolesni zbog corone.
Imam visedecijsko iskustvo u traumatoloskim centrima.
Ovo sto ti pises je kao "koga briga je li vezu pojaseve u kolima, samo ce sebe sjebati" - a nemas pojma kako je. Radio sam u SWMC, CC, Tx, kad nam je doslo 18 ilegalaca (ilegalnih imigranata) iz nesrece kad su u kombiju bezali od pogranicne policije. Nekoliko helikopterima, ostali ambulantnim kolima.
Navala, ludnica. A potrefilo se (ja bio dezuran i radio) da se moja cerka, tada 4 godine stara, posekla na rdjavom metalnom toboganu u nekom parku. I 18 sati je cekala da je zasiju i daju joj tetanus injekciju - zato sto je gomila neodgovornih bila ugrozenija i personal hitne je bio zauzet.
A ti pises, ajde da parafraziram, "glupe mere, meni nista nije." Pa jebiga onda, za koji qrtz da se vezes pojasom u kolima, kad jos nikada nisi poginuo u udesu?
Dakle, niti ces ti niti neko drugi - a ako se desi, to su neki starci...
Ne prilazi mi, a pokusaj da razumes slobodu sa obe strane.
Mozda sam ja tebi donekle ogranicio slobodu zahtevajuci da nosis masku - ali si ti meni ogranicio slobodu kretanja ako neces da je nosis.
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19 minutes ago, Slavisa iz Tavankuta said:
.... mislim da smo mi jako blizu krda.
Ne mesaj politiku u razgovor!!!
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20 hours ago, CheshireCat said:
Ako je virus ovako šireći kao što sada vidimo - kakav je to test da se samo 31 placebo čovek zarazio?
Nešto mi u tom testu nije kul.
To znači da su i vakcinisani u principu bili neizloženi virusu pa ima svega 8 slučajeva. Šta da je (kao što se očekuje) 10.000 od tih 14.000 bilo u dodiru sa virusom.
Ja ove brojeve tumačim kao da bi sa vakcinom mi imali 11 puta manje slučajeva. Ako je slučajeva 7500 mi bi danas imali oko 700. To je meni daleko od korisne i efikasne vakcine.
Problem je sto svako ima svoje tumacenje (ne iskljucujem sebe).
U postavljenom primeru, fali dosta informacija. Nema podataka o starosnoj ili socioekonomskoj strukturi ispitanika, na primer.
A cak i da ima, neke stvari se mogu samo nagadjati - da li su se svi ispitani pridrzavali "mera" ili koji % ih je ignorisao.
Da li je i koliko ispitanih (i iz koje grupe) prisustvovalo nekom "super-spreader" dogadjaju. Kakve su im inace zivotne/kulturne navike (higijena, ponasanje prilikom susreta sa okolinom i poznatima itd.).
Cak i da se ispostavi da su svi parametri identicni za obe grupe, ti kazes "to je meni daleko od korisne i efikasne vakcine."
A ja bih rekao, ako mi nesto daje 10X vecu sansu da sacuvam zdravlje, daj mi to i samo napred.
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4 hours ago, Crni Bombarder said:
Ohrabrujuce prve izjave Blinkena koje ukazuju da ce SAD da se odreknu stupidne politike samo-izolacionizma.
Eh, jebiga, kud bas sada? Nista, ostaje da se nadamo da ce nositi masku i drzati distancu...
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On 10/22/2019 at 8:25 AM, Eddard said:
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5 hours ago, Sunshine State said:Gde si ti, sve ok?
Eddard je pisao na temi o dijetama, kako mu ide i kako se "smanjuje."
Izgleda da mu je dijeta tako dobro krenula da je skroz nestao.
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Press Release on Valentino Rossi Leaving Factory Yamaha Team
The Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team look back with great pride on their successful 15-year long journey with MotoGP legend Valentino Rossi.
With the 2020 MotoGP season having come to an end, the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team want to thank Valentino Rossi for his 15 years of outstanding hard work, dedication, and passion. He has been a key member of the Yamaha family during two long terms in his impressive Grand Prix racing career (from 2004 – 2010 and from 2013 – 2020). The Factory Yamaha MotoGP Team take this opportunity to share their heartfelt appreciation of the still very much active MotoGP legend, as well as the departing crew members, and celebrate their remarkable achievements.
Valentino started riding for the team in 2004 and stayed for seven years, then had a brief two-year stint at Ducati, before he came back to Yamaha where he refound his purpose, his energy, and his performance. His second term with the Factory Yamaha MotoGP Team lasted eight years, one year longer than his first term and a clear indication of how much the Italian feels at home with Yamaha.
Valentino‘s list of results achieved with the Factory Yamaha Team is extensive. He earned 4 MotoGP World Championship Titles and secured 56 victories and 142 podiums in their 255 Grand Prix races together.
Besides Valentino, the Factory Yamaha Team is also saying goodbye to highly-esteemed and much-appreciated colleagues Brent Stephens (Mechanic since 1999), Alex Briggs (Mechanic since 2004), Matteo Flamigni (Data Engineer since 2000), David Muñoz (Crew Chief since 2020), and Idalio Gavira (Rider Performance Analyst since 2019), who are all part of The Doctor‘s crew.
Alex and Brent will be leaving Yamaha, whilst David, Matteo, and Idalio will continue their work with Valentino as a part of PETRONAS Yamaha SRT in 2021.
Also, Javier Ullate (Mechanic since 2003) will be leaving the team. In the 18 years he spent as a part of the Factory Yamaha crew, he worked with big names such as Carlos Checa, Marco Melandri, Colin Edwards, Jorge Lorenzo, and Maverick Viñales, helping them secure many victories and podiums, including three titles with Jorge.
The Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team couldn‘t let this occasion go by unnoticed. On Thursday 19 November, the entire staff (including the staff and friends of the team who are not in Portugal, who attended the event online) met up at the Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP garage to give the leaving members the appreciation they deserve and present them with some parting gifts.
The Factory Yamaha MotoGP Team once again sincerely thank Valentino and the departing team members for their hard work, professionalism, dedication, and passion. Their stellar contribution and results will always remain a part of Yamaha‘s racing legacy.LIN JARVIS
MANAGING DIRECTOR, YAMAHA MOTOR RACINGThis is an emotional moment. It‘s always sad to bid farewell, especially to people who have been such a vital part of the team. But nothing in life is continuous, nothing remains the same, and that‘s also the nature of MotoGP. The situation in the paddock is constantly evolving. People come into the team, some leave, and some come back again.
“2020 was Valentino‘s 15th season with the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team. I have very vivid memories of those years. There have been highs and lows – it‘s been a roller-coaster ride, but his list with results on a Yamaha is seriously impressive: 4 MotoGP World Championship Titles, 255 Grand Prix races, 56 victories, 142 podiums. It‘s amazing how much he achieved during his time with us.
“In Valentino‘s case we are now facing what I would call ’a changing of the guard‘. Though he is leaving the Factory Yamaha MotoGP Team, this is not the end of his career. This is not a complete farewell scenario, this is a transition moment. It‘s important, regardless, because Valentino has been part of our team for so long. But next year he will be next door, so he will stay close. His factory-rider status continues, and he will continue riding a factory YZR-M1 with full support from Yamaha Motor Co., Ltd. He will also be taking Crew Chief David, Data Engineer Matteo, and Rider Performance Analyst Idalio with him, so he will be surrounded by some familiar faces in the PETRONAS Yamaha SRT garage.
“Brent, Alex, and Javier will finish their long-term working collaboration with Yamaha. Their expertise, professionalism, and passion for the job is something that kept our team going for many years, so it‘s very sad to have to say goodbye to them. We wish them all the best for the future and hope to stay in touch.VALENTINO ROSSI
This is an important moment, because this is the end of our long journey together. Our history, between me and the Yamaha Factory Racing MotoGP Team, is divided into two parts – almost like a good movie, I think.
“The first part is from the beginning in 2004 to 2010. I think that was the best part of my career. We wrote history for Yamaha. We were able to win the championship for Yamaha after twenty-something years. I will always remember these achievements, for sure, because they are key moments in my career too.
“But I‘m also very proud of the second part. I want to say ’Thanks‘ again to Lin and all of Yamaha. They gave me a chance to come back to the Factory Team after two bad years with another factory, when I was already ’getting old‘ by MotoGP-standards, so I was desperate. I will never forget the moment when Lin told me I would have a chance to come back here. I‘ll always be thankful for that moment, because maybe I could also have stopped riding at that time if I wasn‘t able to come back here. My return to the Factory Yamaha team has lasted 8 years, so one year longer than the first part. The second part was a bit more difficult in terms of results, but we did come close to winning a championship at one point, which could have changed our story. But things happened the way they happened, and I‘m still thankful for the support I got from Lin, Maio, and all the Japanese engineers. But especially I want to say ’Thank you‘ to my crew. We‘ve been together for a long time. Bernie, Alex, Brent, Matteo, Mark, David, Idalio, and more. I also want to say thanks to the other guys from the team and the hospitality staff. And of course to my mate Maverick: we also had a good atmosphere with that side of the box, so I want to thank them too.
“Next year I will still be riding a factory bike with full factory support, just in different colours. It‘s true, I will not be sitting in the Yamaha Factory Racing garage, but I will be just next door – together with Matteo, Idalio, and David – so for sure we can still say hello. -
11 hours ago, Sprivel said:
Neee, ne smemo dozvoliti da demokrate preotmu Senat! Opsta mobilizacija!
Republikanci bi trebalo da se sete jos jednog republikanca....
"if a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power."
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13 hours ago, Neme said:
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... kod mene se razvila strast za ribolovom (do danas) i ronjenjem (dok nisam počeo da pušim pa batalio) ....
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Odlican post, mada si ostao nedorecen: sta si batalio, pusenje ili ronjenje?
I time si me vratio u rane '80-e.
Onda je jos jedan od mojih hobija bila fotografija. Kupio sam Minolta Weathermatic, 110-format foto-aparat, zato jer je bio otporan na vodu do 10 m dubine, a puno jeftiniji nego vodootporno kuciste za moju 35mm spravu.
Odemo nas tri para na more i postavimo kamp na placu jednog od drugara, na Korculi. Jeftino letovanje. Njih dvojica "morski vukovi" a ja kontinentalac. Oni ribolovili, sto puskom sto drugacije, svi mi plivali, a ja ludovao sa podvodnim foticem.
Jebiga, njih dvojica se uvredili kad sam kasnije razvio filmove i napravio fotke.
Ispostavilo se da sam podvodno uglavnom slikao nase razgolicene zene/devojke, a njih sam okinuo samo par puta u macho majstorskom ronjenju/ribolovu.
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Ja cu i dalje reci da je Trump idiot i pokvarenjak. I na forumu i drugde. I nije to pitanje leve ili desne ideologije.
Nisam preterano elokventan, pa cu preneti misljenje sa kojim se manje-vise slazem:
Trump fights to keep a job he shows no interest in performing
iz clanka:
Trump’s focus in his final days seems to be on replacing competent officials with unqualified loyalists. A purge directed by his 30-year-old former “body man” has heads rolling at the Defense Department, Homeland Security, the U.S. Agency for International Development, the Energy Department and even at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration — where a climate-change denier has been put in charge of the U.S. Global Change Research Program. These capricious personnel moves simply heighten the United States’ vulnerability while Trump still refuses to work with the Biden transition team.
link za citav tekst: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinions-trump-fights-to-keep-a-job-he-shows-no-interest-in-performing/ar-BB1b43UX?ocid=msedgdhp
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1 minute ago, implant said:
Zorane, ja kapiram da je Faučiju dužnost da upozori i na 0,01% mogućnosti da se zarazi i neko ko je vakcinisan, ali mi se čini da će ogromna većina izabrati da živi sa tim malim rizikom ne bi li se što pre vratila u normalu. Zar nije moguće posle primanja vakcine proveriti antitela pa onda doneti odluku?
Teoretski jeste, ali ce to dodatno povecati navalu na laboratorije i/ili nestasicu testova. Ne znam koliko je logisticki izvedivo.
Takodje, ako vakcina omoguci coveku da se ne razboli, ne znam da li garantuje da ce taj 100% virusa u/na sopstvenom telu ubiti ili postoji mogucnost da ga siri dalje, pa makar i nemao simptome.
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1 minute ago, urosg3 said:
ovo mene pitaš? I ako ne osećam se da me pitaš...
Nisam pitao nego napisao kakav utisak imam.
Bilo koji nacin zivota nosi rizik, cesto veci od uobicajenog/prosecnog.
Treba izbeci nepotreban rizik.
Ja se ni nakon 50-ak godina voznje necu odreci dvotockasa, ali me na njima neces videti bez kacige.
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Na to dodaj da cca 1/2 anketiranih gradjana kazu da nece primiti vakcinu, dakle bice jos potencijalnih sirilaca epidemije.
Imam utisak da ti, kad bi bio moj kolega po motocikizmu, ne bi hteo da stavis kacigu na glavu - jer ti "ogranicava slobodu."
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1 hour ago, urosg3 said:
Ovom Faučiju baš se osladila ova pandemija...
Naivni građani bi pomislili eto vakcine, divno, vraćamo se na staro, ali tu je dobri doktor da nas poduči da prihvatimo novonormalno. I kako sad pošten čovek da ne postane antivakser, kad ti provakseri uz vakcine obećavaju maske, distancu unedogled.
edit: čekam da se Nestor javi i on je - strukaEvo kako je Fauci to obrazlozio:
Quote“Obviously, with a 90-plus percent effective vaccine, you could feel much more confident. But I would recommend to people to not abandon all public health measures just because you have been vaccinated, because even though, for the general population, it might be 90 to 95 percent effective, you don't necessarily know, for you, how effective it is,” he added.
Fauci added that once he receives the vaccine, he's "not going to abandon completely public health measures."[/qoute]
izvor, citav clanak: https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/526065-fauci-dont-abandon-masks-social-distancing-after-getting-vaccine
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34 minutes ago, Sunshine State said:
Licno mislim da trebamo uzeti u obzir cinjenicu da ovde pisu/citaju i ljudi koji vec imaju neke strahove, psihicke probleme, etc...i nema potrebe jos i ovde dodatno ih stresirati....svima je, do sad, poznata ozbiljnost situacije/virusa, i nema potrebe kroz: "Svi cemo se razboleti, svi cemo pomreti" da dodatno plasimo jedni druge.
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U pravu si, uglavnom. No treba normalni balans, jer isto tako nema smisla pricati "mlad sam, nece mi nista biti, a maske mi ubijaju slobodu" itd.
Virus je jos uvek relativno nov. Necemo svi pomreti, i to sutra, ali jos niko ne zna da li i kakve posledice ce ljudi koji prebole zarazu imati dugorocno. Pa i ti mladi ljudi.
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Cesto, mi entuzijasti bi hteli da modifukujemo ili poboljsamo fabricki model. Po celom svetu nas ima.
Mi ex-Yugosi smo se cesto bavili Zastavama i originalnim Fiatima.
Ipak, neke stvari su moguce samo u Rusiji (
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10 hours ago, ironside said:
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Zastranjeni Metal...
edit: Gvozdenbok?
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Ova situacija ima potencijal da postane jos neprijatnija - tj. opasna.
Nisam informisan ni elokventan kao Rosenfeld, pa cu preneti njegovo gledanje:
What Trump may be plotting: This might be a momentary tantrum; it may well be something more sinister
We see it unfolding before us. The plan, though horrifying, is simple.
1. Sow seeds of doubt by promoting specious claims about the integrity of the election, undermining and therefore disqualifying it.
2. Begin court proceedings, hoping to toss out votes for your opponent, but with the more likely objective of giving your unsubstantiated claims a semblance of legitimacy while excusing your refusal to accept the election results.
3. Maintain a tight grip of control over the Republican Party, wielding your influence with the base as a club over GOP politicos in order to quash any dissent.
4. Dismiss anyone who might not be loyal to you and replace them with avowed loyalists who are willing to do your bidding.
5. Lead a national disinformation campaign, spreading lies and innuendoes through state-allied media — in this case Fox News, in particular via Trump administration lackeys.
6. Refuse to cooperate with your opponent and his transition team. Emily Murphy, the head of General Services Administration, has refused to acknowledge that Biden won the election and to release the millions designated to enable the transition to commence. Biden has also been unable to begin receiving intelligence briefings.
7. Begin floating the idea of overturning the will of the people in order to “protect the integrity of the election” by having the vote thrown out in particular states, with state legislatures appointing electors that the people did not choose.
8. Use the power of the presidency and its departments to further undermine the election. Trump’s lapdog attorney general, William Barr, has now authorized federal prosecutors to look into voter fraud claims, despite the fact that there is zero evidence of wide-scale voter fraud.
9. Wield the threat of mob violence. Trump has continued to rile up his most extreme supporters. In some cases, this has meant only protesting, which is certainly their right. But Trump’s supporters often carry weapons, and the president is keen to embrace thuggery.
10. Have GOP-led legislatures refuse to certify the election results. This is far-fetched for sure: State laws prevent it. But that doesn’t mean Trump won’t try. Or won’t at least try to use the courts to stall and claim the vote was illegitimate.
11. Completely refuse to give up power. Let’s hope we don’t get to this last one.
It would definitely be difficult for the Trump team to pull off all these machinations. That being said, it’s important that we prepare. You can be certain that, despite their calm exteriors, Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and the leaders of the Biden team have been meeting and have been discussing the possibility that Trump just might not leave office, despite the fact that he not only lost the Electoral College, but this time lost the popular vote, it’s likely, by somewhere north of 6 million.
If Trump refuses to go, it’s the people who will have to take action by taking to the streets — not violently, but through large scale protests and civil disobedience. Violence, remember, is not only wrong; it would also play right into Trump’s hands.
We have to be ready because, if we’re not, we may find that what previously was considered unthinkable has become our new reality.
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Vise nema sumnje da je Trump bolestan egocentrik i da nije predsednik drzave i gradjana USA nego svoje firme i dupeta.
Vec par dana postoje gomile clanaka koji komentarisu to sto, iako voli da vidi sebe na TV, njega vec nedelju dana nigde nema. Sa "virusnim" kriznim stabom se nije sastao vec mesecima, nema izjava kako USA pobedjuje epidemiju itd. Stavise, ne vidi se da nesto korisno radi - u toj nedelji je dva dana igrao golf...
Ovde je delimicno sumirano:
As Trump stews over election, he mostly ignores the public duties of the presidency
QuoteOn Thursday, six American service members were killed in a helicopter crash during a peacekeeping mission in Egypt. Tropical Storm Eta made landfall in North Florida, contributing to severe flooding. The number of Americans infected with the novel coronavirus continued at a record-setting pace, sending the stock market tumbling.
At the White House, President Trump spent the day as he has most others this week — sequestered from public view, tweeting grievances, falsehoods and misinformation about the election results and about Fox News’s coverage of him.
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Ipak, nije bas da nista ne radi. Bavi se cistkama i promenama u Pentagonu i ministarstvu obrane.
Meni izgleda kao da cini sve sta moze da sabotira normalan pocetak Bidenove vlade.
Mada, mozda sam cak i previse optimistican.
Ex-Trump Org Exec Warns What Comes Next: ‘If All Else Fails, He’ll Burn Down The House’
“The notion of being a loser is something that he couldn’t possibly conceive or believe,” said Barbara Res.
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Res told MSNBC’s Ari Melber that Trump would “do anything” to overturn the projected win of President-elect Joe Biden.
“It’s a matter of wresting this loss, as it were, from the victory of Biden, and he’ll do anything,” she cautioned. “And if all else fails, he will burn down the house.”
Res worked for years as the vice president in charge of construction at the Trump Organization. She noted how her former boss just “can’t deal with losing” and was likely unable to process the loss. ..........................
The former Trump executive’s comments echoed those of Mary Trump, the president’s niece, who over the weekend predicted her uncle would never concede.
“He’s not going to engage in the normal activities that guarantee a peaceful transition. All he’s got now is breaking stuff, and he’s going to do that with a vengeance” ................link:
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Dva fantasticna Volkswagena, veliki majstorluk i inzenjering:
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On 10/16/2020 at 4:51 PM, freethrow said:
Ako je vezano za oralne prestupe, moguće...
Vidim da je tema aktivna, pogledam poslednju stranicu i ovo mi zapne za oko...
Radi se o (inace ucestalom u javnosti) nedovoljnom poznavanju i konsekventno pogresnoj upotrebi latinskog jezika ili reci sa latinskim korenom.
Na forumu su moguci verbalni (recima, ovde napisanim) prestupi.
Oralni (ustima) "prestupi" su moguci samo u fizickom kontaktu. I ja ih (barem neke) podrzavam, bilo da ih cinim ili da ih ona cini.
troll off...
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3 hours ago, Cyrus Smith said:
Ja previše pojednostavljujem kada posle nekoliko upornih pokušaja konačno dobijem tačan odgovor da ne, Tramp nije ubio 200k ljudi nego je odgovoran za neki manji broj? Oh, the irony.
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................... Da je rasista, za šta je dokaz da je samo 10, a ne 11 puta osudio bele nacionaliste? .............................
Da, pojednostavljujes kad se "boris" sa izmisljenom tvdnjom da je Trump ubio ljude. To niko nije tvrdio, nego da snosi deo odgovornosti sto se epidemija siri po USA vise nego bi trebala - i, posledicno, ima vise umrlih.
Sabotirao je svoj sopstveni "krizni stab" i ismevao mere, maske itd.
Jedino za sta je Trump odlicno upotrebiv je - da bude los primer.
Njegov rasizam nisu izmislili forumasi...
Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020
link: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
‘1950s racism straight from the White House’: Trump’s tweets revolt politicians around the world
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Epidemija koronavirusa (Covid-19 / SARS-Cov2) - dnevne aktuelnosti iz zemlje i sveta
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Sve 5, Andjo.
Rano je da se pouzdano zna, tek za par godina ce se pojaviti statistike.
Mozda sam sebican.
Ipak, niko me nece ugroziti ako se pijan samoubije zbog osamljenosti.
Ako mi bez maske u ducanu kaslje u lice, mozda hoce.