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Ne mesaj politiku u razgovor!!!

Problem je sto svako ima svoje tumacenje (ne iskljucujem sebe). U postavljenom primeru, fali dosta informacija. Nema podataka o starosnoj ili socioekonomskoj strukturi ispitanika, na primer. A cak i da ima, neke stvari se mogu samo nagadjati - da li su se svi ispitani pridrzavali "mera" ili koji % ih je ignorisao. Da li je i koliko ispitanih (i iz koje grupe) prisustvovalo nekom "super-spreader" dogadjaju. Kakve su im inace zivotne/kulturne navike (higijena, ponasanje prilikom susreta sa okolinom i poznatima itd.). Cak i da se ispostavi da su svi parametri identicni za obe grupe, ti kazes "to je meni daleko od korisne i efikasne vakcine." A ja bih rekao, ako mi nesto daje 10X vecu sansu da sacuvam zdravlje, daj mi to i samo napred.

Eh, jebiga, kud bas sada? Nista, ostaje da se nadamo da ce nositi masku i drzati distancu...

Eddard je pisao na temi o dijetama, kako mu ide i kako se "smanjuje." Izgleda da mu je dijeta tako dobro krenula da je skroz nestao.

Zasto treniras? Cini mi se da u tvojoj situaciji puno treninga ne treba, imas ogroman prirodni talent...

Press Release on Valentino Rossi Leaving Factory Yamaha Team LIN JARVIS MANAGING DIRECTOR, YAMAHA MOTOR RACING VALENTINO ROSSI

Republikanci bi trebalo da se sete jos jednog republikanca....

1. Morbidelli 2. Miller 3. Zarco

Odlican post, mada si ostao nedorecen: sta si batalio, pusenje ili ronjenje? I time si me vratio u rane '80-e. Onda je jos jedan od mojih hobija bila fotografija. Kupio sam Minolta Weathermatic, 110-format foto-aparat, zato jer je bio otporan na vodu do 10 m dubine, a puno jeftiniji nego vodootporno kuciste za moju 35mm spravu. Odemo nas tri para na more i postavimo kamp na placu jednog od drugara, na Korculi. Jeftino letovanje. Njih dvojica "morski vukovi" a ja kontinentalac. Oni ribolovili, sto puskom sto drugacije, svi mi plivali, a ja ludovao sa podvodnim foticem. Jebiga, njih dvojica se uvredili kad sam kasnije razvio filmove i napravio fotke. Ispostavilo se da sam podvodno uglavnom slikao nase razgolicene zene/devojke, a njih sam okinuo samo par puta u macho majstorskom ronjenju/ribolovu.

Ja cu i dalje reci da je Trump idiot i pokvarenjak. I na forumu i drugde. I nije to pitanje leve ili desne ideologije. Nisam preterano elokventan, pa cu preneti misljenje sa kojim se manje-vise slazem: Trump fights to keep a job he shows no interest in performing iz clanka: link za citav tekst: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinions-trump-fights-to-keep-a-job-he-shows-no-interest-in-performing/ar-BB1b43UX?ocid=msedgdhp

Teoretski jeste, ali ce to dodatno povecati navalu na laboratorije i/ili nestasicu testova. Ne znam koliko je logisticki izvedivo. Takodje, ako vakcina omoguci coveku da se ne razboli, ne znam da li garantuje da ce taj 100% virusa u/na sopstvenom telu ubiti ili postoji mogucnost da ga siri dalje, pa makar i nemao simptome.

Nisam pitao nego napisao kakav utisak imam. Bilo koji nacin zivota nosi rizik, cesto veci od uobicajenog/prosecnog. Treba izbeci nepotreban rizik. Ja se ni nakon 50-ak godina voznje necu odreci dvotockasa, ali me na njima neces videti bez kacige.

Na to dodaj da cca 1/2 anketiranih gradjana kazu da nece primiti vakcinu, dakle bice jos potencijalnih sirilaca epidemije. Imam utisak da ti, kad bi bio moj kolega po motocikizmu, ne bi hteo da stavis kacigu na glavu - jer ti "ogranicava slobodu."

Evo kako je Fauci to obrazlozio:

U pravu si, uglavnom. No treba normalni balans, jer isto tako nema smisla pricati "mlad sam, nece mi nista biti, a maske mi ubijaju slobodu" itd. Virus je jos uvek relativno nov. Necemo svi pomreti, i to sutra, ali jos niko ne zna da li i kakve posledice ce ljudi koji prebole zarazu imati dugorocno. Pa i ti mladi ljudi.

Cesto, mi entuzijasti bi hteli da modifukujemo ili poboljsamo fabricki model. Po celom svetu nas ima. Mi ex-Yugosi smo se cesto bavili Zastavama i originalnim Fiatima. Ipak, neke stvari su moguce samo u Rusiji () :

1. Miller 2. Espargaro 3. Nakagami

Zastranjeni Metal... edit: Gvozdenbok?

Ova situacija ima potencijal da postane jos neprijatnija - tj. opasna. Nisam informisan ni elokventan kao Rosenfeld, pa cu preneti njegovo gledanje: What Trump may be plotting: This might be a momentary tantrum; it may well be something more sinister We see it unfolding before us. The plan, though horrifying, is simple. 1. Sow seeds of doubt by promoting specious claims about the integrity of the election, undermining and therefore disqualifying it. 2. Begin court proceedings, hoping to toss out votes for your opponent, but with the more likely objective of giving your unsubstantiated claims a semblance of legitimacy while excusing your refusal to accept the election results. 3. Maintain a tight grip of control over the Republican Party, wielding your influence with the base as a club over GOP politicos in order to quash any dissent. 4. Dismiss anyone who might not be loyal to you and replace them with avowed loyalists who are willing to do your bidding. 5. Lead a national disinformation campaign, spreading lies and innuendoes through state-allied media — in this case Fox News, in particular via Trump administration lackeys. 6. Refuse to cooperate with your opponent and his transition team. Emily Murphy, the head of General Services Administration, has refused to acknowledge that Biden won the election and to release the millions designated to enable the transition to commence. Biden has also been unable to begin receiving intelligence briefings. 7. Begin floating the idea of overturning the will of the people in order to “protect the integrity of the election” by having the vote thrown out in particular states, with state legislatures appointing electors that the people did not choose. 8. Use the power of the presidency and its departments to further undermine the election. Trump’s lapdog attorney general, William Barr, has now authorized federal prosecutors to look into voter fraud claims, despite the fact that there is zero evidence of wide-scale voter fraud. 9. Wield the threat of mob violence. Trump has continued to rile up his most extreme supporters. In some cases, this has meant only protesting, which is certainly their right. But Trump’s supporters often carry weapons, and the president is keen to embrace thuggery. 10. Have GOP-led legislatures refuse to certify the election results. This is far-fetched for sure: State laws prevent it. But that doesn’t mean Trump won’t try. Or won’t at least try to use the courts to stall and claim the vote was illegitimate. 11. Completely refuse to give up power. Let’s hope we don’t get to this last one. It would definitely be difficult for the Trump team to pull off all these machinations. That being said, it’s important that we prepare. You can be certain that, despite their calm exteriors, Democrats like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and the leaders of the Biden team have been meeting and have been discussing the possibility that Trump just might not leave office, despite the fact that he not only lost the Electoral College, but this time lost the popular vote, it’s likely, by somewhere north of 6 million. If Trump refuses to go, it’s the people who will have to take action by taking to the streets — not violently, but through large scale protests and civil disobedience. Violence, remember, is not only wrong; it would also play right into Trump’s hands. We have to be ready because, if we’re not, we may find that what previously was considered unthinkable has become our new reality.

Vise nema sumnje da je Trump bolestan egocentrik i da nije predsednik drzave i gradjana USA nego svoje firme i dupeta. Vec par dana postoje gomile clanaka koji komentarisu to sto, iako voli da vidi sebe na TV, njega vec nedelju dana nigde nema. Sa "virusnim" kriznim stabom se nije sastao vec mesecima, nema izjava kako USA pobedjuje epidemiju itd. Stavise, ne vidi se da nesto korisno radi - u toj nedelji je dva dana igrao golf... Ovde je delimicno sumirano: As Trump stews over election, he mostly ignores the public duties of the presidency link za citav clanak: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-trump-stews-over-election-he-mostly-ignores-the-public-duties-of-the-presidency/ar-BB1aXTFh?ocid=msedgdhp Ipak, nije bas da nista ne radi. Bavi se cistkama i promenama u Pentagonu i ministarstvu obrane. Meni izgleda kao da cini sve sta moze da sabotira normalan pocetak Bidenove vlade. Mada, mozda sam cak i previse optimistican. Ex-Trump Org Exec Warns What Comes Next: ‘If All Else Fails, He’ll Burn Down The House’ “The notion of being a loser is something that he couldn’t possibly conceive or believe,” said Barbara Res. link: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/barbara-res-donald-trump-2020-election-whats-next_n_5facede1c5b6ed84597e4687

Dva fantasticna Volkswagena, veliki majstorluk i inzenjering:

Vidim da je tema aktivna, pogledam poslednju stranicu i ovo mi zapne za oko... Radi se o (inace ucestalom u javnosti) nedovoljnom poznavanju i konsekventno pogresnoj upotrebi latinskog jezika ili reci sa latinskim korenom. Na forumu su moguci verbalni (recima, ovde napisanim) prestupi. Oralni (ustima) "prestupi" su moguci samo u fizickom kontaktu. I ja ih (barem neke) podrzavam, bilo da ih cinim ili da ih ona cini. troll off...

Da, pojednostavljujes kad se "boris" sa izmisljenom tvdnjom da je Trump ubio ljude. To niko nije tvrdio, nego da snosi deo odgovornosti sto se epidemija siri po USA vise nego bi trebala - i, posledicno, ima vise umrlih. Sabotirao je svoj sopstveni "krizni stab" i ismevao mere, maske itd. Jedino za sta je Trump odlicno upotrebiv je - da bude los primer. Njegov rasizam nisu izmislili forumasi... Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2020 link: https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history ‘1950s racism straight from the White House’: Trump’s tweets revolt politicians around the world link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/07/15/racism-straight-white-house-trumps-tweets-revolt-politicians-around-world/?utm_source=reddit.com

Majko mila, ja napisem "ako vidim" a ti odgovoris "ako nisi video." Dalje, ne znam ni ja kako me zaobislo, no moja "ekipa" s kojom se druzim su sve "middle class" i zaobislo je i njih. Mozda treba da redefinisemo "middle class" da bi se bolje razumeli? Inace, ima jos vesti... Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper, the first in an expected purge izvor: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-fires-defense-secretary-mark-esper-the-first-in-an-expected-purge/ar-BB1aQu6M?ocid=msedgdhp

Aj'mo opet po stavkama. 1. Mogu da te vidim da si prosla kolima kroz raskrsnicu na crveno. Nema policije, nema ni suda ni presude, legalno si cista - a ja znam (ocigledno!) da si pekrsila zakon. 2. Mucke i nagodbe raznih firmi me se ne ticu. Skretanje para iz budzeta u sopstveni dzep me iritira. 3. Treba jos, a i treba pojasniti tvrdnje iz te stavke. - mozda je spustio poreze tebi ili nekoj firmi, meni i meni poznatima nije. - pojeftinio lekove? Kako, kome? Ja nisam primetio, a ni par mojih hronicno bolesnih rodjaka...