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  1. 55 minutes ago, Kronostime said:

    Sa Radio Beograda, 202, Studio B... tesko da si mogla da ih cujes.

    Sa neke lokalne divlje radio stanice - mozda.

     

    Većina gradskih stanica po centralnoj Srbiji (Radio Šabac, Valjevo, Kragujevac, Kruševac, Kraljevo, Svetozarevo, Niš...) je oduvek emitovala narodnjake. A i Poselo 202 je valjda počelo da se emituje početkom 80-ih.

  2. 11 hours ago, McLeod said:

    Ako se ovo zavrsi relativno brzo i cisto jedva cekam da cujem sta miss universi misle

     

    To bi bilo suprotno svim izraelskim najavama i generala koji su spominjali vojni pohod koji može trajati i godinu dana i Netanjahua koji je rekao da će okupirati Pojas Gaze na neodređeno.

     

    Economist piše da je najveća prepreka rešenju sa dve države Netanjahu.

     

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    Israel’s window of legitimacy
    Will America pull the plug on Israel’s invasion of Gaza? 
    Israel is racing to destroy Hamas as a global backlash grows

    Nov 7th 2023


    It was hardly a warm welcome, although that no doubt came as little surprise. Antony Blinken, America’s secretary of state, spent the past few days shuttling across the Middle East, his second such trip since the start of the Gaza war on October 7th. In Amman his Jordanian counterpart, Ayman Safadi, told Mr Blinken to “stop this madness”. The language he heard in private across the region was even tougher. His meeting with Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, lasted less than an hour and ended with no joint statement. Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey did not bother to meet him at all.

    Mr Blinken’s chilly reception was one sign of mounting anger at Israel’s war in Gaza. Now in its second month, it has killed more than 10,000 Palestinians and damaged or destroyed more than 11% of the buildings in the enclave. It has enraged the Arab world, inflamed Western capitals and drawn condemnation from many world leaders.

    Israeli generals still talk about waging a long campaign that will last up to a year. On November 7th Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu told ABC News that Israel would be in charge of Gaza’s security for an “indefinite period”. In practice, though, what Israeli officers call their “window of legitimacy” is probably far shorter. How fast that window closes will depend largely on America, which supplies Israel with munitions, diplomatic support and an aid package worth perhaps $14bn. If Joe Biden wants the war to end, Israel will be hard pressed to ignore him.

    So far, he does not. Although he now supports “humanitarian pauses” to allow more aid to enter Gaza, Mr Biden has rejected calls for an outright ceasefire. But administration officials have made clear, in a series of leaks, that they doubt Israel has a coherent exit strategy in Gaza. They complain that Mr Netanyahu is barely willing to discuss the topic, and say they want to put their concerns on the record now lest the war end badly. To think a war risks becoming a quagmire but to support it nonetheless is an untenable position—especially when American voters agree.

    A poll by The Economist and YouGov found that a plurality of Americans (41%) believe Mr Biden is handling the war badly. A Quinnipiac survey of registered voters found that 51% of independents and 66% of people aged 18 to 34 disapprove of his policy. His ratings have plummeted amongst Arab-American voters, which could hurt him next year in crucial swing states like Michigan. Sources in Washington think it will still be several more weeks before Mr Biden pivots to talk of a truce—but do not doubt that he will make such a shift.

    Arab states certainly hope so. Fears of a multi-front war, which were acute in the days after Hamas’s massacre, have eased. Hizbullah, the Lebanese Shia militia, continues to fire rockets daily at Israel, but Hassan Nasrallah, the group’s leader, signalled in a speech on November 3rd that he was not yet interested in all-out war. The Houthis, a Shia militant group in Yemen, have lobbed drones and missiles at Israel but are too far away to pose a strategic threat.

    Many autocrats across the Middle East would be happy to see Israel smash Hamas. But they are also nervous that the war will mobilise their subjects, many of whom are already restive about awful economic conditions. This adds to pressure on both America, which has heard their fears for weeks now, and Israel, which is keen to preserve its recent diplomatic gains in the Arab world.

    So far, most countries have made do with symbolic rebukes of Israel. On November 2nd the lower house of Bahrain’s parliament announced that the country would recall its ambassador from Israel. The chamber has few powers; recalling ambassadors is not one of them. Envoys from both countries had gone home weeks earlier. Parliament, in a fit of populist politics, made it seem as if lawmakers had decreed their return. Officials in both Bahrain and Israel say diplomatic ties remain intact.

    Four days later King Abdullah of Jordan announced that his air force had dropped a shipment of medical aid into Gaza. Jordan would not have taken such action without seeking Israel’s approval, which the Israeli army later confirmed it had indeed given. By omitting that detail from his announcement, though, the king could act as if he had challenged Israel’s blockade of Gaza.

    Such gestures do not earn much goodwill at home, however. Even the United Arab Emirates (uae), Israel’s closest Arab ally, has grown increasingly critical (at least in public). Anwar Gargash, a foreign-policy adviser to the uae’s president, said at a conference on November 4th that America should push for a ceasefire, “the quicker the better”.

    Then there is Israel itself. Morale is high in the army, and Israelis seem willing to accept far more casualties than they normally would (34 Israeli soldiers have been killed so far). But the public is furious with a prime minister more concerned with his political survival than with battlefield strategy. Protesters gathered at Mr Netanyahu’s house on November 4th to demand his resignation.

    Another question is the economy. The month-long Lebanon war in 2006 cost around 9.5bn shekels ($2bn at the time or 1.3% of GDP), whereas the last big Gaza conflict in 2014 cost 7bn shekels (0.6% of GDP). This one may be even costlier. The Bank of Israel thinks the government’s deficit will climb to 3% of GDP next year, compared with a 0.6% surplus in 2022; some outside analysts put the estimate above 5%. Mobilising 360,000 reservists has also left parts of the Israeli economy with a shortage of workers, even if some of them have now been sent home.

    Israeli officials hope that the fierce bombardment of the war’s first month is now giving way to a new phase. Gaza city is surrounded by the IDF, and ground troops and armour are drawing closer to the area where the IDF says Hamas has its headquarters and where a nucleus of its fighters and leadership are holed up underground. If the IDF can soon destroy these facilities and kill large numbers of militants, some officers believe that it will have partially met its mission of depleting Hamas’s ability to run Gaza. The war would then move into a more limited campaign of ground raids.

    That could ease international pressure, which spikes every time Israeli jets bomb a bakery or a refugee camp, and ease pressure on the economy by allowing the army to release some reservists. The Israelis also recognise that relieving the humanitarian crisis in Gaza could buy more time. On November 6th the uae announced that it would set up a 150-bed field hospital in Gaza, a move co-ordinated with Israel. Mr Netanyahu now says he is open to “tactical little pauses, an hour here, an hour there” to allow more aid to enter.

    Arguably, though, the biggest challenge to Israel’s international legitimacy is Mr Netanyahu himself. His government is stacked with radicals. Amichai Eliyahu, the heritage minister, recently suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza. Zvi Sukkot, the new head of a parliamentary committee that oversees the occupied West Bank, is a far-right ideologue who has been investigated by Israel’s Shin Bet for his alleged extremist activity.

    When they met in Ramallah, Mr Abbas told Mr Blinken that the Palestinian Authority, which controls parts of the West Bank, could return to Gaza to govern the enclave after the war. Such an outcome would please both the Israeli army and the Americans.

    But Mr Abbas added that it would only happen “within the framework of a comprehensive political solution”—in other words, as a step towards a two-state solution, which Mr Netanyahu has spent his entire political career fighting against. If he remains in office, there will be no serious talk of an endgame in Gaza. America’s patience will run out and Israel will find its room for manoeuvre increasingly limited. 

     

    https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2023/11/07/will-america-pull-the-plug-on-israels-invasion-of-gaza?utm_medium=social-media.content.np&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_content=discovery.content

  3. 44 minutes ago, Angelia said:

    Situacija je jasna, Izrael ne bi napao Gazu, da Hamas nije uleteo I ubio 1400 ljudi. Ne postoji drugi adekvatan odgovor

     

    Naravno da postoji, koji je ovo put da Izrael ulazi u Pojas Gaze da pobije koga treba ili da ga okupira? Nijednom nije bilo ovolikog rušenja i civilnih žrtava.

     

    Nova UN-ova infografika o situaciji.

     

    Neki podaci:

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    4-6 sati je prosečno vreme čekanja na dobijanje polovine normalne porcije hleba.

    Za 92% manja potrošnja vode u odnosu na period pre sukoba.

    Svih 13 preostalih bolnica dobilo je naređenje za evakuaciju, a više od 1/3 više ne radi.

     

     

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    https://www.unocha.org/attachments/57bb99aa-0f14-473e-ae31-8d5e90093016/Gaza_casualties_info-graphic_7_Nov_2023-32.pdf

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  4. 6 hours ago, Angelia said:

    Zato I one cifre o poginulim civilima nemaju smisla

     

    Ma uopšte nemaju.

     

    Za one koji su zaboravili ili nisu pratili, portparol izraelske vojske Danijel Hagari je još u utorak posle masakra (10.X), koji je bio u subotu (7.X), dakle praktično na početku kampanje bombardovanja rekao da su već do tog trenutka bacili stotine tona bombi i da je "naglasak na šteti, ne na preciznosti".

     

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    Speaking on Tuesday morning, IDF spokesperson R Adm Daniel Hagari made the startling admission that “hundreds of tons of bombs” had already been dropped on the tiny strip, adding that “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/10/right-now-it-is-one-day-at-a-time-life-on-israels-frontline-with-gaza#:~:text=The move will undoubtedly claim,damage and not on accuracy”.

     

    Original na hebrejskom na Harecu:

    https://www.haaretz.co.il/news/politics/2023-10-10/ty-article-live/0000018b-1645-d465-abbb-16f71d060000#1720386730

  5. 15 minutes ago, Angelia said:

    Izrael probao sve moguce da do mira dodje

     

    Aha, 22 ubijena Palestinca za jednog ubijenog Izraelca, tako su pokušavali napraviti mir na sve moguće načine.

     

    A i ova naselja na okupiranoj teritoriji su zidali i izbacivali Palestince iz tih krajeva u getoe jer žele trajan mir.

     

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  6. 17 minutes ago, Dzoni_m said:

    HAMAS je u toj grupi zlocinaca i ubica, ne IDF.

     

    Jasno, izraelska vojska je bik Ferdinand koji samo želi da miriše cveće.

     

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  7. Voxov članak u kome se razmatraju argumenti za i protiv teze da je Izrael država koja sprovodi aparthejd.
     

    Spoiler

     

     

     

     

     

    I ovde je navedeno dosta primera kako sve to izgleda u praksi:

     

     

  8. 7 minutes ago, Selina said:

    U ovom slucaju sada covek veruje u ono sto zeli da veruje pa neka je izvor i crni djavo.

     

    Slušao sam vesti izraelskog radija na engleskom pre neki dan i najnormalnije su saopštili te brojeve i rekli da je izvor min. zdravlja u Gazi, bez ikakvog dodatnog disklejmera tj. eventualnog ukazivanja na nepouzdanost tih podataka.

     

    https://www.kan.org.il/content/kan/kan-reka/p-10861/

  9. Zapravo je komplikovanije od toga, kačio sam AP-ov članak s onim brojevima gde se UN-ovi naknadno rekonstruisani podaci i podaci ministarstva za ranije sukobe u velikoj meri poklapaju u kome ima objašnjenje.

     

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    The United Nations and other international institutions and experts, as well as Palestinian authorities in the West Bank — rivals of Hamas — say the Gaza ministry has long made a good-faith effort to account for the dead under the most difficult conditions.

    “The numbers may not be perfectly accurate on a minute-to-minute basis,” said Michael Ryan, of the World Health Organization’s Health Emergencies Program. “But they largely reflect the level of death and injury.”

    In previous wars, the ministry’s counts have held up to U.N. scrutiny, independent investigations and even Israel’s tallies. (...)

    The ministry is a mix of recent Hamas hires and older civil servants affiliated with the secular nationalist Fatah party, officials say.

    The Fatah-dominated authority that administers Palestinian cities in the Israeli-occupied West Bank has its own health ministry in Ramallah, which still provides medical equipment to Gaza, pays Health Ministry salaries and handles patient transfers from the blockaded enclave to Israeli hospitals.

    Health Minister Mai al-Kaila in Ramallah oversees the parallel ministries, which receive the same data from hospitals. Her deputy is based in Gaza.

    The Ramallah ministry said it trusts casualty figures from partners in Gaza, and it takes longer to publish figures because it tries to confirm numbers with its own Gaza staff.

    Hamas tightly controls access to information and runs the government media office that offers details on Israeli airstrikes. But employees of the Health Ministry insist Hamas doesn’t dictate casualty figures.

    “Hamas is one of the factions. Some of us are aligned with Fatah, some are independent,” said Ahmed al-Kahlot, director of Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza. “More than anything, we are medical professionals.”

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-gaza-health-ministry-health-death-toll-59470820308b31f1faf73c703400b033

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    How Netanyahu's Hamas policy came back to haunt him — and Israel
    The Israeli leader and Hamas are deadly enemies — and allies in opposing a 2-state solution

    Evan Dyer, CBC News

    Israelis don't agree on much, especially lately, but polling shows they mostly agree that Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu is to blame for leaving Israel unprepared for Hamas's onslaught on October 7.

    The accusations aimed at Netanyahu go beyond merely failing to foresee or prevent the Hamas attack of October 7, however. Many accuse him of deliberately empowering the group for decades as part of a strategy to sabotage a two-state solution based on the principle of land for peace.

    "There's been a lot of criticism of Netanyahu in Israel for instating a policy for many years of strengthening Hamas and keeping Gaza on the brink while weakening the Palestinian Authority," said Mairav Zonszein of the International Crisis Group. "And we've seen that happening very clearly on the ground."

    "(Hamas and Netanyahu) are mutually reinforcing, in the sense that they provide each other with a way to continue to use force and rejectionism as opposed to making sacrifices and compromises in order to reach some kind of resolution," Zonszein told CBC News from Tel Aviv.

    'Keep Hamas alive and kicking'
    This symbiotic relationship between Netanyahu and Hamas has been remarked on for years, by both friends and enemies, hawks and doves.

    Yuval Diskin, former head of Israel's Shin Bet security service, told the daily newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth in 2013 that "if we look at it over the years, one of the main people contributing to Hamas's strengthening has been Bibi Netanyahu, since his first term as prime minister."

    In August 2019, former prime minister Ehud Barak told Israeli Army Radio that Netanyahu's "strategy is to keep Hamas alive and kicking … even at the price of abandoning the citizens [of the south] … in order to weaken the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah."

    The logic underlying this strategy, Barak said, is that "it's easier with Hamas to explain to Israelis that there is no one to sit with and no one to talk to."

    Netanyahu's critics say that Hamas — with its bloodthirsty rhetoric, open antisemitism and stated intention never to share the land — played into the hands of a prime minister who also wanted to be able to tell western governments that Israel has "no partner" for peace.

    Supporting Hamas rule in Gaza, those critics say, allowed Netanyahu to confine the Palestinian Authority to the West Bank and weaken it, dividing the Palestinians into two mutually antagonistic blocs.

    Hamas puts its finger on the scales 
    Netanyahu first came to power in the 1996 election that followed the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by an Israeli extremist opposed to the Oslo Accords.

    Early polls showed Rabin's successor Shimon Peres comfortably ahead.

    Determined to sabotage Oslo, Hamas embarked on a ruthless suicide bombing campaign that helped Netanyahu pull ahead of Peres and win the election on May 29, 1996.

    Today, some of the same extremists who called for Rabin's death hold power in Netanyahu's government.

    Just two weeks before Rabin's assassination, a young settler extremist posed for the cameras with a Cadillac hood ornament he said he had stolen from Rabin's car. "Just like we got to this emblem," he said, "we could get to Rabin."

    Today, that young man, Itamar Ben Gvir, is 45 years old and has eight Israeli criminal convictions — including convictions for supporting a terrorist organization and incitement to racism. Once he was rejected by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for his extremist views. Now, Israel's police must answer to him as Benjamin Netanyahu's minister of national security.

    Many analysts believe one of the main goals of the Hamas attack on Israel was to derail the normalization talks underway between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which would have left the Palestinians on the sidelines.

    In a remarkable speech last week in Houston, Saudi Prince Turki bin Faisal unleashed on Hamas for its atrocities and obstructionism. But he also had words for Israel.

    "I condemn Hamas for further undermining the Palestinian Authority, as Israel has been doing," said the former Saudi intelligence chief and ambassador to the U.S. "I condemn Hamas for sabotaging the attempt of Saudi Arabia to reach a peaceful resolution to the plight of the Palestinian people.

    "I condemn Israel for funnelling Qatari money to Hamas."

    Prince Turki was referring to money that the Qatar royal family has been sending to Gaza for years, to the tune of about a billion U.S. dollars.

    'Hamas is an asset'
    Netanyahu's hawkish defence minister Avigdor Liberman was the first to report in 2020 that Bibi had dispatched Mossad chief Yossi Cohen and the IDF's officer in charge of Gaza, Herzi Halevi, to Doha to "beg" the Qataris to continue to send money to Hamas.

    "Both Egypt and Qatar are angry with Hamas and planned to cut ties with them. Suddenly Netanyahu appears as the defender of Hamas," the right-wing leader complained.

    A year later, Netanyahu was further embarrassed when photos of suitcases full of cash going to Hamas became public. Liberman finally resigned in protest over Netanyahu's Hamas policy which, he said, marked "the first time Israel is funding terrorism against itself."

    Netanyahu's education minister Naftali Bennett also denounced the payments, and also quit.

    The Palestinian Authority's Ahmed Majdalani accused the Qatari envoy of carrying money to Hamas "like a gangster."

    "The PLO did not agree to the deal facilitating the money to Hamas that way," he said.

    After both Bennett and Liberman fell out with Netanyahu, he was defeated by a new government that stopped the cash deliveries to Hamas. 

    But that government lasted just 18 months. Then Netanyahu returned to power with new, more extreme partners who backed the policy of fostering Hamas to prevent a negotiated peace settlement.

    Netanyahu's current finance minister, West Bank settler Belazel Smotrich, explained the approach to Israel's Knesset channel in 2015: "Hamas is an asset, and (Palestinian Authority leader) Abu Mazen (Mahmoud Abbas) is a burden."

    Paying Hamas to weaken Oslo
    On March 12, 2019, Netanyahu defended the Hamas payments to his Likud Party caucus on the grounds that they weakened the pro-Oslo Palestinian Authority, according to the Jerusalem Post:

    "Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended Israel's regular allowing of Qatari funds to be transferred into Gaza, saying it is part of a broader strategy to keep Hamas and the Palestinian Authority separate, a source in Monday's Likud faction meeting said," the Post reported.

    "The prime minister also said that 'whoever is against a Palestinian state should be for' transferring the funds to Gaza, because maintaining a separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza helps prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state."

    Netanyahu insisted that neither the money nor the construction material given to Hamas would be diverted to military purposes. But today, the IDF finds itself showing how Hamas has done exactly that — by diverting and converting civilian funds and materials to warlike purposes.

    The military tried to warn him at the time, former IDF chief of staff Gadi Eisenkot told the Ma'ariv newspaper. He said Netanyahu acted "in total opposition to the national assessment of the National Security Council, which determined that there was a need to disconnect from the Palestinians and establish two states."

    "We Gaza border residents are paying the price for the lack of policy and the arrogance in facing terror," said Labor Party Knesset member Haim Jelin in 2019.

    Those words would prove to be terribly prescient four years later.

    Haim Jelin is a resident of Kibbutz Be'eri. The small community was devastated by Hamas on October 7. Roughly 130 of its residents were murdered, while others were taken into captivity in Gaza.

    Catch-22 for two-state solution
    Mustafa Barghouti, a physician and member of the PLO Central Council, was a key figure in talks between Hamas and Fatah that sought to unify the Palestinians in a single bloc that could negotiate a two-state peace.

    "Each time we moved toward unity, Netanyahu would launch a campaign claiming that (Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud) Abbas is cooperating with terrorists," Barghouti told CBC News from Ramallah in the West Bank.

    "But each time Netanyahu was asked, 'Why don't you negotiate with Abbas,' he would say, 'I can't negotiate with a Palestinian Authority that doesn't represent all Palestinians.' And so he would use Hamas and this division to justify his absolute objection to any negotiated peace agreement."

    Barghouti said the current war has ended U.S. and Israeli hopes of Israel normalizing relations with neighbouring countries without first resolving the Palestinian issue.

    "One of the main results of what has happened is to show that normalization between Israel and some Arab countries does not solve the problem," he said. "It re-established the Palestinian issue as the central issue in this whole knot."

    "Most of the world thought that it could sideline this issue," said Zonszein. "Certainly the U.S. thought that. But now it's clear that it is the key to stability in the region as a whole."

    Biden: U.S. wants two states
    On Wednesday, U.S. President Joe Biden warned Israel to stop attacks by Israeli settlers — a key part of Netanyahu's coalition — on Palestinian civilians. Attacks have spiked this year.

    "They're attacking Palestinians in places that they're entitled to be, and it has to stop," Biden said. "They have to be held accountable."

    Biden also spoke about what the U.S. wants to see after the war.

    "When this crisis is over, there has to be a vision of what comes next," he said. "And in our view, it has to be a two-state solution."

    Neither Hamas nor Netanyahu share that vision.

    As Netanyahu has pointed out, Hamas does not recognize Israel's right to exist and lays claim to all of the land "from the river to the sea."

    And just twelve days before the Hamas massacres in southern Israel, Netanyahu addressed the UN General Assembly, holding a map of what he called "The New Middle East" that showed all of the West Bank and Gaza, as well as East Jerusalem and the Syrian Golan Heights, as parts of an enlarged Israel, with no Palestinian state in sight.

    Damage likely to be lasting
    There is a widespread feeling in Israel that Netanyahu's career is finally ending. A trial on serious corruption charges looms in his future.

    "He's finished. It's over," said Barghouti. "The problem is that the alternatives are no different from him when it comes to any Palestinian issue. They differ with him on other matters, but when it comes to Palestinians, I don't see any peace camp in Israel."

    Hamas and Netanyahu may both prove harder to eliminate than their enemies hope. But even if they leave the scene, the damage to the two-state solution is not easily undone and the current war likely will make things worse, said Zonszein.

    "I'm concerned that the fear and the trauma and shock of what happened is only going to make Israelis more scared of Palestinians, and Palestinians more scared of Israelis," she said. "And you see a lot of Israelis who are arming themselves now with personal firearms because they don't trust that the army and police will be there for them."

    Nor will Gazans be easily reconciled to the restoration of a corrupt Palestinian Authority, especially one seen to be riding back to power on an Israeli tank.

    "It's already lost most of its legitimacy and credibility on the street in the West Bank," said Zonszein. "There haven't been elections in 16 years and they don't have the ability to govern even the West Bank, so why would anyone think they have the ability to govern Gaza?"

    Barghouti agreed the current Palestinian Authority and its leadership are at a dead end.

    "No Palestinian leader will ever have legitimacy without free, democratic elections, and that is true whether he governs Gaza or not," he said.

    "But in my opinion, Israel is not interested in a Palestinian government of Gaza."

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

     

    Spomenuti koferi za Hamas koji su unošeni preko izraelskog graničnog prelaza.

     

    Spoiler

     

     

    (autor tvita je glavni novinar izraelskog javnog servisa koji se bavi palestinskim pitanjem)

     

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    How Years of Israeli Failures on Hamas Led to a Devastating Attack

    Israeli officials completely underestimated the magnitude of the Oct. 7 attacks by Hamas, shattering the country’s once invincible sense of security.

     

    It was 3 a.m. on Oct. 7, and Ronen Bar, the head of Israel’s domestic security service, still could not determine if what he was seeing was just another Hamas military exercise.

    At the headquarters of his service, Shin Bet, officials had spent hours monitoring Hamas activity in the Gaza Strip, which was unusually active for the middle of the night. Israeli intelligence and national security officials, who had convinced themselves that Hamas had no interest in going to war, initially assumed it was just a nighttime exercise.

    Their judgment that night might have been different had they been listening to traffic on the hand-held radios of Hamas militants. But Unit 8200, Israel’s signals intelligence agency, had stopped eavesdropping on those networks a year earlier because they saw it as a waste of effort.

    As time passed that night, Mr. Bar thought that Hamas might attempt a small-scale assault. He discussed his concerns with Israel’s top generals and ordered the “Tequila” team — a group of elite counterterrorism forces — to deploy to Israel’s southern border.

    Until nearly the start of the attack, nobody believed the situation was serious enough to wake up Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to three Israeli defense officials.

    Within hours, the Tequila troops were embroiled in a battle with thousands of Hamas gunmen who penetrated Israel’s vaunted border fence, sped in trucks and on motorbikes into southern Israel and attacked villages and military bases.

    The most powerful military force in the Middle East had not only completely underestimated the magnitude of the attack, it had totally failed in its intelligence-gathering efforts, mostly due to hubris and the mistaken assumption that Hamas was a threat contained.

    Despite Israel’s sophisticated technological prowess in espionage, Hamas gunmen had undergone extensive training for the assault, virtually undetected for at least a year. The fighters, who were divided into different units with specific goals, had meticulous information on Israel’s military bases and the layout of kibbutzim.

    The country’s once invincible sense of security was shattered.

    More than 1,400 people were killed, including many women, children and old people who were murdered systematically and brutally. Hundreds are held hostage or are still missing. (...)
    A New York Times examination, based on dozens of interviews with Israeli, Arab, European and American officials, as well as a review of Israeli government documents and evidence collected since the Oct. 7 raid, shows that:

    Israeli security officials spent months trying to warn Mr. Netanyahu that the political turmoil caused by his domestic policies was weakening the country’s security and emboldening Israel’s enemies. The prime minister continued to push those policies. On one day in July he even refused to meet a senior general who came to deliver a threat warning based on classified intelligence, according to Israeli officials.

    Israeli officials misjudged the threat posed by Hamas for years, and more critically in the run-up to the attack. The official assessment of Israeli military intelligence and the National Security Council since May 2021 was that Hamas had no interest in launching an attack from Gaza that might invite a devastating response from Israel, according to five people familiar with the assessments who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details. Instead, Israeli intelligence assessed that Hamas was trying to foment violence against Israelis in the West Bank, which is controlled by its rival, the Palestinian Authority.

    The belief by Mr. Netanyahu and top Israeli security officials that Iran and Hezbollah, its most powerful proxy force, presented the gravest threat to Israel diverted attention and resources away from countering Hamas. In late September, senior Israeli officials told The Times they were concerned that Israel might be attacked in the coming weeks or months on several fronts by Iran-backed militia groups, but made no mention of Hamas initiating a war with Israel from the Gaza Strip.

    American spy agencies in recent years had largely stopped collecting intelligence on Hamas and its plans, believing the group was a regional threat that Israel was managing.

    Overall, arrogance among Israeli political and security officials convinced them that the country’s military and technological superiority to Hamas would keep the terrorist group in check.

    “They were able to trick our collection, our analysis, our conclusions and our strategic understanding,” Eyal Hulata, Israel’s national security adviser from 2021 until early this year, said during a discussion last week in Washington sponsored by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a think tank.

    “I don’t think there was anyone who was involved with affairs with Gaza that shouldn’t ask themselves how and where they were also part of this massive failure,” he added.

    Many senior officials have accepted responsibility, but Mr. Netanyahu has not. At 1 a.m. Sunday in Israel, after his office was asked for comment on this article, he posted a message on X, formerly Twitter, that repeated remarks he made to The New York Times and blamed the military and intelligence services for failing to provide him with any warning on Hamas.

    “Under no circumstances and at no stage was Prime Minister Netanyahu warned of war intentions on the part of Hamas,” the post read in Hebrew. “On the contrary, the assessment of the entire security echelon, including the head of military intelligence and the head of Shin Bet, was that Hamas was deterred and was seeking an arrangement.”

    In the resulting furor, Benny Gantz, a member of his war cabinet, publicly rebuked Mr. Netanyahu, saying that “leadership means displaying responsibility,” and urged the prime minister to retract the post. It was later deleted, and Mr. Netanyahu apologized in a new one.

    On Sunday, Shin Bet promised a thorough investigation after the war. The I.D.F. declined to comment. (...)

    “We started receiving messages that there was a raid on every reporting line,” testified one soldier, who was at the Gaza Division base on the day of the invasion, in a conversation with the “Hamakom Hachi Ham Bagehinom” (“The Hottest Place in Hell”) website.

    “On every reporting line, swarms of terrorists were coming in,” the soldier added. “The forces did not have time to come and stop it. There were swarms of terrorists, something psychotic, and we were simply told that our only choice was to take our feet and flee for our lives.”

    In a conversation with military investigators two weeks after the attack, soldiers who survived the assault testified that the Hamas training was so precise that they damaged a row of cameras and communication systems so that “all our screens turned off in almost the exact same second.” The result of all this was a near total blindness on the morning of the attack.

    After the fighting had stopped, Israeli soldiers found hand-held radios on the dead bodies of some of the Hamas militants — the same radios that Israeli intelligence officials had decided a year ago were no longer worth monitoring.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/29/world/middleeast/israel-intelligence-hamas-attack.html

  12. Više od 2/3 stanovništva Pojasa Gaze sada je interno raseljeno, kaže UN. Bombardovanjem su uništeni solarni paneli na bolnicama, reni-bunarima i pekarama. Glavni generatori u najmanje dve bolnice (Šifa u gradu Gazi i Indonezijska na severu) su ostali bez goriva. 14 od 35 bolnica i 51 od 72 ustanova primarne nege je prestalo da radi zbog oštećenja ili nedostatka goriva. Samo 4. i 5. novembra pogođena su dva rezervoara za vodu i dva reni-bunara.

     

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    About 1.5 million people in Gaza are internally displaced (IDPs). Of them, some 717,000 are sheltering in 149 UNRWA facilities, 122,000 in hospitals, churches, and public buildings, 110,000 people in 89 non-UNRWA schools, and the remainder are residing with host families. (...)
    Multiple solar panels on the roofs of standing buildings, particularly in Gaza city, have reportedly been destroyed in the past few days during Israeli bombardments. Affected facilities include Shifa and Nasser hospitals, several water wells, and bakeries. This has eliminated one of the remaining sources of energy, which is not dependent on fuel. (...)

    Since 3 November, the main electricity generators at Shifa Hospital in Gaza city and the Indonesian Hospital in North Gaza have reportedly stopped operating due to the lack of fuel. Both hospitals operate secondary, smaller generators, which provide only a few hours of electricity a day for the most critical services.  

    Since the start of hostilities, 14 out of 35 hospitals with inpatient capacities have stopped functioning and 51 (71 per cent) of all primary care facilities across Gaza (72) have shut down due to damage or lack of fuel.  (...)

    On 4 and 5 November, seven water facilities across the Gaza Strip were directly hit and sustained major damage, including three sewage pipelines in Gaza city, two water reservoirs (in Gaza City, Rafah and Jabalia refugee camp) and two water wells in Rafah.

    https://www.ochaopt.org/content/hostilities-gaza-strip-and-israel-flash-update-30

     

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    In this video soldiers are literally holding Palestinian families hostage, taking the house keys, sleeping in their beds, controlling their every movement and communications, including those of the women and children. It's sickening.

    If this doesn't highlight the insane power dynamic difference and subjugation of the Palestinians, who are literally helpless and who if they resist risk being murdered or imprisoned indefinitely, I don't know what will. 

     

    U pitanju je reportaža iz emisije "60 minutes" američke televizije CBS iz 2009:

     

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  14. Evo malo detalja o moćnom AIPAC izraelskom lobiju u SAD, koji se hvališe visokim procentom pobeda kandidata koje podržava i spremnošću gomile senatora da potpišu sve što im stave pod nos, a koji je sipanjem miliona u kampanju torpedovao jevrejskog i još cionističkog kandidata samo zato što se zalagao za pravedno mirno rešenje sa dve države, dakle suprotno onome što Netanjahu zastupa.

     

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  15. Gaza se pretavara u dečje groblje, rekao generalni sekretar UN-a Antionio Gutereš.

     

    18 UN-ovih agencija traži humanitarni prekid vatre odmah.

     

    Brazilci tvrde da Izraelci ne dozvoljavaju njihovim državljanima da izađu iz Pojasa Gaze zbog stava te države koja podržava humanitarno primirje.

  16. Harec tvrdi da je palestinski predsednik Mahmud Abas rekao Blinkenu da su palestinske vlasti (Fatahove) spremne da preuzmu punu odgovornost za Pojas Gaze i Istočni Jerusalim kao deo sveobuhvatnog diplomatskog rešenja posle rata.

     

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    Following his fourth visit to Israel since October 7, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken made an unannounced visit to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. Abbas stressed the need for an immediate ceasefire and said that the Palestinian Authority is ready to accept full responsibility for the Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem as part of a comprehensive post-war diplomatic solution. Blinken said the U.S. was committed to getting aid into Gaza and restoring essential services there.

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-05/ty-article-live/u-s-efforts-for-a-ceasefire-increase-as-israeli-forces-make-their-way-deeper-into-gaza/0000018b-9d1a-d27d-a9fb-dfbbfcc60000

  17. Netanjahu sazvao 80-ak ambasadora da im kaže da je Evropa sledeća ako Izrael ne uspe da pobedi iransku osovinu zla.

     

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    Netanyahu to Foreign Ambassadors: ‘This Battle is Your Battle’

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned some 80 foreign ambassadors on Monday that the battle being waged by Israel against the barbaric Hamas terrorists in Gaza is one that could threaten Europe next.

    The ambassadors had expressed support for Israel and pledged to work — each one in their own country — to ensure that what occurred on October 7 will not be forgotten.

    “What we see is a broader battle between civilization and barbarism,” he said.

    “The barbarism is led by an axis of terror. The axis of terror is led by Iran. It includes Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis and their other minions.

    “They seek to bring the Middle East and the world back to a dark age. They seek to torpedo, to derail any progress towards peace and the progress and the promise that we had in our budding peace treaties with our Arab neighbors.

    “If they go strong, if they’re not defeated, they will derail this process, they will imperil the entire Middle East. If the Middle East falls to the axis of terror, Europe will be next and no one will be safe.

    “This is not a local battle,” he emphasized. This is a global battle. The paramount need is to defeat this axis.

    “That battle is now being waged by us against Hamas in Gaza. There is no substitute for victory. We will defeat Hamas. We will dismantle Hamas. We will offer the people of Gaza and the entire peoples of the Middle East a real future, a future of promise and hope. But this requires victory. We have the will and we have the power to do so. We will win. And we believe that all civilized powers should back us in this effort because this battle is your battle and our victory is your victory.”

    In response to a question on how it is possible to assist Israel, the Prime Minister said, “First, to stand with Israel. I think that all civilized countries should stand with Israel because this is our common fight. And as I said, our battle is your battle and our victory is your victory.

    “I also spoke yesterday to the president of the Red Cross and I asked her to personally be involved in an effort that we’ve been talking to the Red Cross from day one of the war, that is to demand an immediate and unconditional release of the hostages and access to the hostages and information about the hostages. Something that is required by humanitarian international law and Hamas violates as well.

    I think you should back that call. You should be part of that call every day.

    “We want the release, the unconditional release of our hostages immediately. We want that information. We want that access to the Red Cross.”

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/israel/government-israel/netanyahu-to-foreign-ambassadors-this-battle-is-your-battle/2023/11/06/

     

     

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