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četvorica. i po više puta. nije frka za predaju smene. pričaćemo sutra, prekosutra, nakosutra ..

otkud znaš da nisam diskutovao na PM (sa osobom sa kojom ima smisla diskutovati)? sa tobom sigurno neću diskutovati na PM od onomad kada si greškom upao u prepisku jednog moderatora i mene, na temu mog sukoba sa mcleodom. od tada ti želim sve najbolje u životu i kao što primećuješ, ne citiram te uostalom, važno je za forum da ovakve stvari budu transparentne - da se vidi šta neko od korisnika doživljava kao problem, a ne da se po starom drevnom srbskom običaju sve fura pod tepih. uostalom pt2, niko od vas nije morao da odgovori na moj prvi post, pogotovo ne Ti - ipak, vas petorica se dopisujete ovde sa mnom a onda ja ispadnem problem jer pravim od komarca magarca. jesi li nekada razmišljao da lupiš sam sebi packu pre nego je nameniš drugom?

pa evo ti na prethodnoj strani. jednom liku sam i odgovorio da nije lepo to što radi a sa dulematica sam preskočio u prvom sazivu, tj ignorisao njegov rant post to što se može videti na str 78 (ne znam na kojoj je strani kod tebe) je potpaljivanje konfrontacije a vidim da i dulematica svrbe prsti što pišem kritike na predviđenom mestu pa bi da me odstrani (strana 79 - ne znam koja je kod tebe).

to to. zamisli, diskutujem na predviđenom topiku i još imam primedbe na delovanje moderacije

definitivno nije razlog diskusije bio u želji da se moderacija nekažnjeno psuje i da se ispoljavaju kojekave frustracije. ipak, ne čudi me da ste uspeli da preskočite sve ono što je tema (osim da još jednom podvučete neotuđivo pravo da ne pojasnite nikome ljubazno i onelinerom odluku) & da ujedno dočekate prvu priliku za spin off ove asade i dulematice sa pokušajima potpaljivanja konfrontacije da ne spominjem, I ONI SU LJUDI PA IH PONESE.

okej, bottom line je da je neotudjivo pravo moderatora da ne objašnjava iako će, n-ti put, zbog tog neotudjivog prava vas 5 napisati xy redova na tu temu ovde. daklem, ta želja definitivno nije praktična u smislu nedostatka vremena, već je potreba za promovisanjem autoriteta koji se ne dovodi u pitanje osim na šalteru putem formulara. zato i rekoh, žive ljudi i u londonu i u pekingu, dolaze turisti u oba grada, ali je sve drugačije u ta dva grada i to je vaše pravo, dileme nema 🙂 edit ili kome je tesko da popije paralelu sa gradovima, evo direktnijeg poredjenja>> https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-race-good-health/201802/parenting-effects-children-what-is-your-parenting-style

u prilog mogućnosti xy forumaša da bude zbunjen ako ne posećuje temu često: poslednji post na prvoj strani ali ponavljam, nikakav problem nije to, već nešto drugo.

inače, sada sam otišao na prvu stranu topika, pošto nemam običaj - i nisam video ništa navedeno? dravot ima random vest kao intro post, zatim par svaka čast svaka čast, zdravstvujte, a zatim arsenije sa longread postom koji se tiče foruma u globalu a ne samog topika, i koji sam verovatno video negde drugde još

@marejosip da ne citiram ceo post - neka bude i da je namenjen isključivo srbiji a ne da se takav sadržaj događa spontano = zar ne misliš da na forumu na kojem se u političkom delu opsesivno navodi "hrvatska", "usa", "kina", "bih", "spc u crnoj gori" nije zgoreg pojasniti da je vox pops = srbija al' kao što rekoh metalhedu, problem retko bude u tome šta je gde premešteno i kome i čemu je mesto, već princip delovanja moderacije koji sam valjda dovoljno jasno opisao gore i makar nekolicinu puta u skorije vreme vidiš, to uopšte nije lepo od tebe i nije primereno tvom moderatorskom statusu

mojne da se ljutiš ali vi ste premeštanjem posta napravili insinuaciju, pošto nigde ne piše niti je, kao što rekoh, topik originalno zamišljen da se bavi isključivo dešavanjima i pojavama iz srbije. onda lepo napišite mi smo tako zamislili, da imamo jedan opšti topik o srbiji koji se zove VOX POPS, jedan o opoziciji, jedan o izborima itede ovaj primer sa kafanom, basketašima i vanzemaljcima ti nije dobar. a na koncu svega, to je najmanje važno i ne pravi probleme. probleme i nesuglasice pravi vaša / moderatorska arogantnost koja vam ne dozvoljava nešto iz arsenala kao onaj primer koji sam pomenuo u prvom postu (mention) koji bi sve rešio, već bi radije da emitujete neku nepostojeću silu i fazon "mrzi me da objasnim u onelineru i ljubazno , već ćete posle toga ponovo vas trojica minimum da se smarate sa balvanima kao što sam ja. na vašem mestu bih se zapitao da li negde grešim da ne širim priču na druge stare a tako sveže teme ličnih uvreda, reporta i rezultata. ne bih sada da budem percipiran kao neprijateljski nastrojen, već neko ko vam daje iskren a praktičan savet.

još ovo da dodam dok sam besposlen a i da budem jasniji kapiram ja da vi (moderacija) želite da obezbedite nekakav red i zakon i bezbednost i ugođaj svih sugrađana korisnika, što je osim plemenito i neki bazični zadatak moderacije. međutim, ono što ne uviđate čini mi se najbolje, je da postoje gradovi u kojima su i žitelji i turisti bezbedni iako pravila nisu kruta a snage reda & zakona ponekada odu an extra mile iako to nije neophodno, niti će ih neko kriviti ako to ne učine. posred 90ih odem ja u london - i suočim se sa pojavom petka u tom gradu, gde se inače dobro obučeni likovi u odelima na ulici gađaju sa kesom punom đubreta a pandur im prilazi i uljudno uputi jednog od njih da đubre vrati na mesto. petak u podzemnoj aka tubeu - spiker sa razglasa podseća da na stanici nije dozvoljeno pušiti cigarete "or whatever that ur smoking", pošto cepa nozdrve miris ganje. e zato ako udariš nekoga ili praviš neko sranje koje istinski ugrožava wellbeing ostalih, nema nikakve zajebancije, ode ti u tvorza u nekim drugim gradovima si vrlo bezbedan ali ti kenjaju i hapse te za gluposti. ne može ni ovo ni ono, zna se šta su pravila i nema šta tu da ti se objašnjava!!!!1 eto toliko.

tema ne moze biti popunjenija i relevantnija makar i 20 postova prebacio na istu. ja to bar nisam doziveo mozda je @Vjekoslav zeleo neku diskusiju i trenutni odgovor / reakciju na temi koja je prometna. voxpops jeste tema na kojoj se 90+% sadržaja odnosi na srpske prilike - ali to je opet organski i prirodno tako, bez nametanja striktne teme. uostalom, kada je tema i otvorena na 92jci, ona je bila "all things politics" a i društvenih pojava, jer mi aristokrate sa sporta nismo voleli da se penjemo kojekude ( : hoću da kažem, nije neki prekršaj, treba biti tolerantan makar kada te ne košta ništa. neće sad tu da krene sa kačenjem omiljenih pesama lou reeda zbog tog posta, niti će on imati naročiti odgovor ako ekipa nije zainteresovana nerviraju takve stvari, pre svega jer su bespotrebne. a koliko vidim, opet ste u starom dobrom "nemamo mi šta kome da obkašnjavamo, korisnici - sužnji" fazonu. šta je smetalo da neki moderator koji je namerio da preseli post, umesto toga opali jedan mention na temi i kaže kako eto, možda nije najprikladniji topik za to and just leave it (the post) be? nula.5% truda, 100% prijateljskog nastupa i suštinski važnog za ono što vama smeta, iako ja kao što rekoh, ne vidim zašto bi. edit typo

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Nets’ Kyrie Irving has started a $1.5 million fund kontam da ovo funkcionise kao neki startup, tj da nece samo on da zavali pare, nego daje neki kick za pocetak ne mora bas da osiromasi da bi sproveo neku dobru ideju, ima jos milionasa u kraju 🙃

najbolje ribe sa pravnog su vrlo ambivalentan pojam ali im je zajednicko to da imaju killa body. zoroski mi inace i izgleda lik koji je uspesno zavrsio pravni faks i radi kao advokat u velikoj kompaniji 🙂

lep potez, pretpostavljam da većina igračica nema neku ludu kintu

bacam hot prediction pre nego krenu tekme, šta fali jasno je da su la ekipe i hjuston + bucksi, raptors i 76ers favoriti mogao sam da bacim hot take i za denver jokers ali računam, ima ko

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How the Mavericks Built the Best Offensive Lineup in NBA History With Luka Doncic running the point, Kristaps Porzingis manning the middle, and the right mix of role players in between, Dallas uncovered a lineup before the shutdown that put up historic numbers By Jonathan Tjarks Jul 24, 2020, 3:20am PDT https://www.theringer.com/nba/2020/7/24/21336130/luka-doncic-kristaps-porzingis-dallas-mavericks nije Drakaris pitanje ko će proći, već ko je za klasu slabiji, lukini mavsi nisu.

zašto bi dalas bio slabiji od bostona? luka je vredniji od onog midgeta i tatuma ..plus imaju najbolju ofanzivu

Do Americans Get That Trump is Instituting Martial Law? Trump Wants to Use Martial Law to Terrorize Americans — and Steal the Next Election Yesterday, the Mayor of Portland was gassed by the secret police of storm troopers that Donald Trump has sent to occupy the city. Wait. What? Let’s read that sentence again. Yesterday, the Mayor of Portland was gassed by the secret police of storm troopers that Donald Trump has sent to occupy the city. If I wrote that sentence five years ago, you would have laughed at me. It would have seemed impossible. Inconceivable. Outlandish. And yet here we are. Shortly before that, Trump announced that he was sending his new secret police’s shock troops…men in camouflage body armor, carrying machine guns, abducting people off the streets, and now gassing mayors…nationwide. If I wrote that sentence five years ago, you never would have read another word I wrote. And yet here we are. Where is this, though, this strange new territory America finds itself in? What’s really happening here? Something that those of us who’ve lived through — and survived — authoritarian-fascist collapses know all too well. We’ve seen it before, maybe, like me, several times over. We know how it begins, and how it ends — usually — too. None of that’s to be a know-it-all blowhard. It’s to warn, as seriously as I can. You probably have an inkling of what I’m about to say, but your rational side denies it. Your gut is right, and your brain — which has never lived through this kind of collapse before — is wrong. Trump is instituting martial law. Yes, really. That is what sending a secret police of shock troops across America is. No, not suddenly, all at once, in a kind of sweeping and obvious way. But rather, in the time-honored way that authoritarian-fascists do. One step at a time. A process. A creeping martial law. One which is all too easy to normalize and accept, because it proceeds in slow steps. Martial law isn’t declared like in the movies, usually. More often, it happens like this. Step by step. Town by town. City by city. This shock troop added to that one. Their powers expanded, to take away your freedoms, one by one. An occupying force whose power is always growing, and never really goes away. And before anyone really knows it — they’re living in a police state, an authoritarian society. Nobody can really remember how it ended up this way. It seems to have happened in a kind of slow-motion suicide of a democracy. It happens that way because every good authoritarian knows that’s how you normalize it, how you minimize resistance, how you create that strange mix of apathy, bewilderment, and fear all at once, by getting people to ignore what their gut is shouting at them. A mind always says: “Come on! It’s not that bad. Those troops aren’t on my streets yet, and even if they are, they’re still pretty friendly, aren’t they? Stop imagining the worst! Everything will be fine!” The unthinkable isn’t thought fast enough, widely enough. And so one small step at a time, martial law spreads like a black veil across a society, replacing civil society, democracy, decency, and a modern society. It’s hidden in plain sight. Predictably, funnily, sadly — nobody much is seeing it, because the demagogue’s magic is blinding. Trump is instituting martial law now. So let me put it another way — which is more accurate still. Just before a crucial election — one which will decide if democracy lives or dies — a President who would be dictator, like America’s Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein, feels he’s on the ropes. So he’s beginning to institute martial law: the rule of an occupying paramilitary force over and above civil law and everyday democratic norms. If you doubt that — as your rational side still might — let’s think about it for a moment. What is “martial law”? Here’s a definition which will do just fine: “Martial law is the imposition of direct military control of normal civil functions or suspension of civil law by a government, especially in response to a temporary emergency where civil forces are overwhelmed, or in an occupied territory.” Let’s take that step by step. The imposition of direct military control. The “federal agents” that Trump is sending to occupy America’s cities and towns aren’t part of the Army or Navy or Air Force — but they are a part of the ominously named “Homeland Security.” If you doubt they’re a “military”, what else do you call men wearing camouflage body armour, festooned with heavy weaponry, carrying machine guns? If that’s not a military — or in this case, a paramilitary — surely the word holds no meaning whatsoever. What are they there for? “The suspension of civil law.” Trump’s shock troops are shredding the Constitution. Not in some abstract, theoretical, Ivy-League-Debate-Club kind of way — but with violence and brutality on the ground. They wear no badges, are unaccountable to anyone, have the power to abduct people off the streets for no rhyme or reason, and take them to God only knows where. The right to free speech? Assembly? Association? Privacy? Peaceful protest? To just walk down a street with your friends, carrying a banner? Bang — gone. They gassed the Mayor of a major American city. Civil law doesn’t matter to Trump’s army of shock troops. If it did, they wouldn’t be gassing mayors, who are elected public officials. What does matter to Trump and his shock troops? Why are they there? Because there’s a “temporary emergency.” Which one? Could it be the lethal pandemic — which Trump’s stunning negligence allowed to explode, and become the worst outbreak in the world? How about the 18th straight week of more than a million people filing for unemployment? Or the death rate of that pandemic beginning to skyrocket back up? Maybe the millions of Americans who now find themselves falling into disease, poverty, and despair? Those emergencies? Nope, the emergency that Trump calls “law and order.” Only there is no breakdown of law and order in America — at least not at the level of people peacefully protesting in the streets for the causes of equality and justice. The breakdown of law and order in America is a demagogue President who’s instituting martial law. What those of us who’ve survived authoritarianism and studied it know — and need to share with you — is this. If you want to kill a democracy dead, first you chop off its limbs. Then you slowly, slowly suffocate it. You deprive it of the air it breathes. First you chop off the limbs — you appoint “acting directors” who are your cronies in the extremist projects of ethnic supremacy and racial cleansing to head most of the major offices of government. You purge government of every last decent civil servant you can, so nobody much is left to stand in the way. You stack the courts with unqualified extremists, too, so that you’re protected from legal challenges. Check, check, check. At this point, the stage is set. For what? For you, the authoritarian, to begin suffocating a democracy to death. That means: one by one, taking away people’s basic rights. You don’t send a hundred thousand shock troops to every small town. You just send a few hundred to the cities — especially where people resist your brutality and violence and supremacism. You use those shock troops to make an example. This mayor resisted me. He got gassed. These people thought they could resist me. They got beaten. These people thought they could express their voices in opposition to me. They got abducted. This group of mothers thought they could link arms and oppose me. They got disappeared. You make an example, as loudly and publicly and visibly — and violently — as possible. This is what happens when you cross me. You pay the price. The price is a heavy one. It’s not one that anyone in a decent society is used to paying — beatings, abductions, disappearances, gas attacks, and so forth. This is the price you pay for crossing me. A society descends into an atmosphere of fear and panic, usually. People do what they tend to do when they’re threatened by overwhelming force: they get frightened. The intimidation and brutality serve their purpose. The point of a secret police is now made real — to keep people in check with the authoritarian’s wishes, to stifle dissent, to silence and frighten. You suffocate a democracy by denying it of the air it breathes. The sweet and pure air of freedom. Where people express can themselves, especially if they’re critics and opponents and dissidents. Instead, the poisonous miasma of terror becomes a grim daily reality. “Are you going to that protest?,” says one friend. “Of course!,” replies the other. Neither shows up — because who will look after their families if they’re abducted, disappeared, gassed, wounded? A society has been terrorized into submission. The authoritarian is now free to obtain what they’ve always really wanted. Power. The next election? People stay home. Not enough votes are cast. That atmosphere of fear has never gone away. The authoritarian wins it. And that’s it — game over. The last election that country is to have — at least for a generation. Those of who’s studied and lived through authoritarianism have seen this before — and it’s our basic duty as decent and sane human beings to warn you. But it’s your duty to heed the warning, this time. Not to ignore it, like the last four years. That’s how we got here, to a place where a lunatic demagogue is destroying America before the eyes of a baffled, shocked, horrified world. Heed the warning this time, because this is the last time. The last chance. Trump is declaring martial law. The way authoritarians do. Stepwise. One small step at a time. Just like you’d choke the life out of someone you really hated if you were a sociopath — slowly, to make sure, to watch the light go out of their eyes, and revel in it. How do authoritarians win? By making the abnormal seem normal, by transgressing so often and so frequently, it all comes to seem plain, by making each transgression worse than the last, so yesterday’s seems like old, small news. But it isn’t. All those transgressions — camps, bans, raids, purges — are a pattern. Leading up to this. The imposition of a creeping kind martial law, just before a crucial election. One city at a time. A group of shock troops added to the last, one at a time. One set of new powers for them to abuse people with at a time. Until anyone barely remembers a time when people weren’t being disappeared off the streets, beaten, gassed, thrown into the camps. It’s not me telling you. It’s history. It’s the ghosts of Orwell, Camus, Arendt, Frankl, Malala, all the people in all the nations who’ve been through this before, and know. How it ends. They are the ones trying to tell you, in a desperate whisper, that barely pierces the veil of time. Heed the warning. This is your last chance. Umair July 2020

board man got paid inače, ovaj isečak je iz ovog prilično zanimljivog teksta o thibsu od igračkih dana pa do minesote https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/tom-thibodeaus-relentlessness-led-to-knicks-dream-job/

super mi je posto je bukvalno trens iz 1989, kao i video iza ovoga je bilo i konceptualnijeg trensa 3-4 godine pa tek onda goa koja je izvela trens na loš glas ove nove mutante da ne spominjem treba jednom otići na trens žurku, ako su sve zvezde na broju i pravi ljudi na pravom mestu