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[delgado]

@Miki28  Toronto je izgubio ovo jer se sledeca tekma igra 13 na 14, a ja 14og punim 26, taman Kandzina titula za rodjendanski poklon, moze, moze.

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Slucajnost? Ne bih rekao

[delgado]

Bogami ovo je ozbiljan udarac ne samo za KD, nego i za timove koji su pravili planove za njega.

 

 Sad Irving moze komotno u LA.

[Borko]

Any updates about KD's injury? I can't find anything new.

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10 minutes ago, delgado said:

Bogami ovo je ozbiljan udarac ne samo za KD, nego i za timove koji su pravili planove za njega.

 

 Sad Irving moze komotno u LA.

Irving i AD? Dream big

[delgado]

I obavezno ovaj covek za vetmin

 

  

 

[Miki28 Teoljub]

Bez njega nista. Slag na torti

[realno *w]

10 hours ago, LordOfTerror said:

Meni samo nije jasno sta radi strucni stab GS, gameplan im je skandalozan.

 

Vec par meceva imam utisak da u prvim poluvremenima razmenjuju baraznu paljbu vs laki poeni Toronta gde cak i u nekom idealnom scenariju po GS kad im upada sve i svasta Toronto je u utakmici i ceka se samo da ih Kawhi sastavi pred kraj dok Curry i Klay skapavaju...

 

Jednostavno ma koliko voleli brzu igru i koliko im to bio identitet nemaju resursa za takvu borbu 48 minuta... Ne vredi im igra u tranziciji kad Toronto ima 6-7 sjajnih role igrac i kad dodje do juranjave i borbe prsa u prsa naravno da ce ih samleti rezervisti Toronta kad imas u petorci barem 2 rupcage kao sto su Livingstone,Mekini,Cook,Bogut...

 

Oni sa vrhunskim partijama Klaya i Currya jedva mogu da prebace 100 poena, juce tacno da nije bilo tih 12 minuta Duranta i 11 poena ne bi ni bili u utakmici u finisu...

 

Naravno da ne moraju sad da zaigraju Lebron ball i cede svaki napad do poslednje stotinke ali za pocetak mogu da izbegnu onaj dzihad kad Green krece kao imbecil da otvara kontre 200 na sat gde seje lopte po terenu ili Cousins koji glumi Tragic Bronsona.

 

Znaci da stanu malo na loptu,  Curry takodje i da trce samo kad osete da su u naletu i da se maksimalno oslone na odbranu. Mislim da bi u tako nekom scenariju dobili vise i od Igudale i mozda jos po koji ekstra kvalitetan minut od Boguta i Livingstona...

 

 

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Da li postoji nešto lakše, a u isto vreme besmislenije, od ovakvog baljezganja?

 

Igraju protiv vrhunske defanzivne ekipe, koja sa ovako probuđenim Ibakom, imaju na 3 pozicije u postavi elitne odbrambene igrače, plus Grina koji je u najmanju ruku iznadprosečan defanzivac.

 

Sa druge strane, GSW bez Durenta, šta treba njihov stručni štab, da izmisle način da Luni, Kuk, Livingston i ostali postignu 60-70 poena?

Edited June 12, 2019 by realno *w

[LordOfTerror]

@Realno

 

Pre nego sto si nesto okarkterisao kao baljeganje mogao si da probas da procitas.

 

Ne znam kakve veze ima defanziva Toronta sa ovom mojom pricom niti sam sporio bilo gde da je vrhunska.

 

Upravo zato sto Livingston, Kuk i Luni i druzina ne mogu da ti daju ni 30 poena treba maksimalno da probaju da uspore ritam i smanje broj poseda. Eventualno mogu do dobiju mec ispod 200 poena.

 

Forsiranje tranzicije gde u najbolju ruku dobijes otvoren sut Klaya ili Curry ne vodi nicemu jer ako promase bivaju satrani od strane pomocnog osobolja Toronta, pri tom tim brzanjem gube previse lopti.

 

Takodje ako resis da odmoris Curry-a njemu je bitno da sedi na klupi 5-7 minuta u realnom vremenu, sto moze uz malo mozga moze da bude 2 minuta kosarke. Odigras pun napad, spustis loptu Livingstonu na post, mozda iznudis ili napravis neki faul pa ide lopta sa strane ili budu bacanja, u svakom slucaju iako postoji steta nastojis da je minimiziras . Ovako ako Curry izadje i tebi Cook pripaljuje u 5. sekundi trojku van balansa i juri se sa jedne na drugu strane, razmenjujes otvoreno udarce a ocigledno si slabiji to je ozbiljan problem mendzmenta cele situacije.

[realno *w]

Nikakve veze nema defanziva jedne ekipe, sa ofanzivom druge? E to je tek hit.

 

Ta tranzicija, brza igra, je nešto što oni igraju već 5 godina, što je svojevremeno nazivano revolucijom košarke, nešto što ih je bez ikakvih problema i ove godine dovelo do velikog finala. Sad treba na pola serije da to menjaju?

 

Ovo za ponašanje igrača sa klupe ok, u to ne ulazim, ali u pitanju su mizerni minuti. Čak se često desi da ekipa u tim momentima bude u većem plusu, nego sa ovom dvojicom, kao što je bio slučaj na poslednjoj tekmi.

Edited June 12, 2019 by realno *w

[LordOfTerror]

To sto je Toronto vrhunska defanzivna ekipa samo pogorsava situaciju o kojoj govorim.

 

Igraju vec 5 godina i prvi put su dosli u situaciju da nemaju sa cime da trce, pogotovu ne protiv ovakve ekipe. Ne treba da menjaju nego da modifikuju, ne moraju po svaku cenu da igraju na maksimalnom broju obrta.

 

Pogotovu sto nisam siguran da se utakmica uvece u neku half-court borbu da bi Toronto bio u prednosti.

 

 

[realno *w]

Nemaju KDa, Luni igra povređen, Igudala nije na 100% + godine. Livingston - one trick pony, 33 godine. Kazins u klasičnom štetočina modu. I tu treba izmisliti ne znam šta.

 

 

Ja ovu istu priču pričam za GSW od kako se formirala ova ekipa. Ranije su bar ovi side kick-ovi bili mlađi i bolji, a Kari i Klej su imali više trikova u rukavu, pa je opet ta priča nekad prolazila, nekad ne. Tek sa KDom su oni dobili tu nenormalnu raznovrsnost i to niko nije mogao da brani. 

 

U onom čuvenom preokretu Kavsa smo gledali sve ovo isto kao sada - minimizovan učinak pomoćnog osoblja, Klej i Kari ograničeni na neki ne previše spektakularan učinak i to je bilo to.

[LordOfTerror]

Takodje stvar koju ne mogu da shvatim, desava se vec 4-5 puta u seriji da Curry ima loptu i ceo napad na lupam 25 sekundi do kraja cetvrtine  i svaki put je sutnuo tako da Torontu ostane komotan napad do kraju znaci 6+ sekundi. Nebitno da li je poenitrao ili ne to su takve fundamentalne greske koje su nedopustive za regularnu sezonu da ne pricam o NBA finalu...

 

Ne moze Kerr bog zna sta da izmisli sa ovako osakacenim rosterom ali ima gomila sitnica o kojima ne vode racuna ili to jako lose rade.

 

 

[Kurc Emuchelo]

6 hours ago, serbianhoops said:

Simanić

Zasto se povukao? 

[LayupFromTheMidget]

 

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1 minute ago, LayupFromTheMidget said:

 

Pakuj.

[stefan81888]

Ali koliko mi je muka od Rich Paul i LeBron cirkusa. Majstori spanskih serija. 

[LayupFromTheMidget]

Stvarno haos, doduse plase se da se ne desi slucaj George i veoma izvesno Kawhi...
 

[gggggggg]

sa ovom izjavom mu samo snizio trade value. verovatno zeli da pelicansi prihvate ponudu lakersa po svaku cenu.

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26 minutes ago, LayupFromTheMidget said:

Stvarno haos, doduse plase se da se ne desi slucaj George i veoma izvesno Kawhi...
 

Pa naravno da se plase. Kawhija cu i razumjet ako uzme titulu i ostane ali PG13 nikad. Prepao se ko pic... i potpisao brze bolje ugovor sa Okc i osudio sebe na ispadanje u 1 rundi. Steta.

 

AD im je zadnja sansa za superstara dok je tu Lebronko, ostali ga ne fermaju 2%, razumljivo...

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Was it irresponsible?

Irresponsible, no. Risky, yes. Durant was clearly not 100 percent.

Often, people say it is the team/medical staff’s job to “protect a player from himself.” That is definitely true if there is catastrophic or permanent injury involved. However, if the Warriors were waiting for a player to be 100 percent and have no risk, then Klay Thompson would still be out with his hamstring strain, Kevon Looney would have never played with his rib cartilage fracture, Steph Curry would still be out with ligament damage from his finger dislocation, DeMarcus Cousins would sit with his quad (and maybe residual Achilles) injury, Andre Igudola would miss due to multiple ailments — and maybe more.

Same goes for the Raptors.

Heck, if medical staffs in the NFL “protected” players from themselves and only allowed fully healthy players to suit up, the active roster would have to be at least 153 (instead of 53) to field a team of 45.

 

The key here is as long as the medical staff informed Durant and the team of the risks, this decision was not irresponsible. Based on Durant’s social media post after injury in support of the Warriors, there doesn’t seem to be any regret, animosity or hint that he was led astray.

Remember, return to play is a joint decision between the medical staff, player and team. The “vote” has to be a unanimous “yes” to return to play. The medical staff decision is made jointly by the doctor/surgeon/consultants, athletic trainers and physical therapists. The player makes his call with input from his agent, advisors, personal doctors and family. The team position is formulated by the coaches, general manager, front office and ownership.

Prior to Game 3, it was clear Klay Thompson wanted to play. It seemed medical would tentatively clear him to play through a mild hamstring strain, but the team (head coach Steve Kerr) seemed to not allow it.

Kerr did say the doctors told him that there was no chance of re-injury with Durant, but that almost certainly has to be a misinterpretation. There was no way Durant was 100 percent. Why wouldn’t he have played Game 4 if he was at 95 percent? And typically, one doesn’t go from mostly healthy to completely so in just three days.

Durant should be lauded for putting his current team first to accept the risk and try to play through the injury, as opposed to taking care of himself and his pending free agency. If he had not played, there would be a chorus of questions, as the Warriors were facing three straight elimination games.

I just wish he would have stayed a spot-up shooter, where he had significant early success. The ball needed to go through Curry to create as to not stress Durant’s leg. On Durant’s first attempt to be explosive and make something happen with the ball, he injured his Achilles.

Was it related?

Probably. No one from the outside (including me) can know for sure, but the evidence strongly points to the original injury and the new one to be related.

On a simplistic level, if your car breaks down and you take it to the mechanic to have the carburetor fixed, and then on your first big road trip your car has trouble again, the chances are good that it is related to the original issue.

It was 33 days ago that Durant was said by the team to have a calf strain. My suspicion all along was Achilles injury, although it didn’t seem to be full tear. This was based on video analysis and subsequent images of Durant icing his leg down lowin the region of the Achilles.

Please note that I am in no way being critical of the Warriors or their medical staff. “Calf” is not technically wrong, as they did not say calf muscle and the Achilles can be considered part of the calf/lower leg area. The team doctors do not give the verbiage to reporters; the team makes that call. For example, we see NFL teams all the time say shoulder when they mean season-ending pec tear. Again, to be clear, I am not saying the doctors misdiagnosed a potential Achilles as a calf. The likelihood is they knew exactly what was going on but that doesn’t get translated to the public.

The first time Durant made an explosive move Monday, he had a classic Achilles injury. People in their 40s and 50s tear their Achilles because the tendon is weak. Professional athletes tear their Achilles because their gastrocnemius (calf) muscle is strong and contracts too quickly for the tendon to lengthen, and it tears.

The violent muscle contraction and “ripple” is evidence the muscle overpowered the tendon. It is like in a game of tug-of-war — if the rope breaks or the other side let’s go, the “winning side” falls down backwards in a heap. In this way, Durant had to have a strong calf muscle to tear his Achilles which speaks against a calf muscle strain.

The theory here (not fact) is that Durant had some partial injury to his Achilles that the Warriors knew about and treated appropriately with over a month’s rest and made a calculated risk/reward decision that didn’t work out.

 

 

[delgado]

Sve se polako otvara da dovedemo Obrvu i Irvinga. Irving-KCP-LBJ-Obrva-Gee , Jeff Green i neki veterani sa klupe, ekipica da se smrznes.

[Kurc Emuchelo]

 @uini

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52 minutes ago, delgado said:

Sve se polako otvara da dovedemo Obrvu i Irvinga. Irving-KCP-LBJ-Obrva-Gee , Jeff Green i neki veterani sa klupe, ekipica da se smrznes.

Sredi sa tvojim idolom i agentom😁

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