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Dragi forumaši, molimo vas da u vreme ove krize ostanemo prisebni i racionalni i da pisanjem na ovoj temi ne dođemo u situaciju da naudimo nekome. Stoga:

 

- nemojte davati savete za uzimanje lekova i bilo kakvu terapiju, čak i ako ste zdravstveni radnik - jedini ispravni put za sve one koji eventualno osećaju simptome je da se jave svom lekaru ili na neki od telefonskih brojeva koji su za to predviđeni.

- takođe - ne uzimajte lekove napamet! Ni one proverene, ni one potencijalne - obratite se svom lekaru!

- nemojte prenositi neproverene informacije koje bi mogle nekoga da dovedu u zabludu i eventualno mu načine štetu. Znamo da je u moru informacija po pitanju ove situacije jako teško isfiltrirati one koje su lažne, pogrešne ili zlonamerne, ali potrudite se - radi se o zdravlju svih nas. Pokušajte da informacije sa kojekakvih obskurnih sajtova i sumnjivih izvora ne prenosite. Ili ih prvo proverite pre nego što ih prenesete.

- potrudite se da ne dižete paniku svojim postovima - ostanimo mirni i racionalni.

- aktivno propagiranje naučno neutemeljenih (između ostalih i antivaxxerskih) stavova i pozivanje na nevakcinisanje bazirano na njima nećemo tolerisati.

 

Budimo dostojanstveni u ovoj krizi, ovakve situacije su ogledalo svih nas. 

Hvala na razumevanju.

 

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Vakcinacija  

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  1. 1. Da li ste vakcinisani protiv Coronavirus-a i kojom vakcinom?

    • Pfizer/Biontech
    • Sinopharm
    • Sputnik V
    • Moderna
    • AstraZeneca/Oxford
    • Johnson & Johnson
    • Nisam i ne želim da se vakcinišem
    • Nisam još sigurna/an da li ću se vakcinisati
    • Preležao/la sam Covid-19, pa čekam da vidim da li i kada ću da se vakcinišem


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Sa strucne grupe, post jednog lekara:

 

"Nije tema KOVID, ali jednog dana može i da postane. Na osnovu informacije da je u Novom Sadu obuhvat MMR vakcinom jedva 24% (uz pretpostavku da je Vojvodina u prošlosti bila pristojno pokrivena sredina) gruba računica (uz aproksimaciju da u ostalim sredinama nije gora situacija od ove) pokazuje da bi od 123755 dece rodjene tokom 2020-te i 2021-ve, njih oko 88000 moglo da oboli (95% te populacije minus vakcinisani) ... što uz letalitet od "samo" 2 od 1000 (stanje u regionu tokom prethodne epidemije ...

 

https://morbilli.epi-net.info/

Odnosno, 2.6 od 1000 u Srbiji znači nekih 176 do 228 smrtnih ishoda ... medju decom. Ako je još poznato da morbilli na par meseci prilično naruše imunitet, uz novi talas KOVID-a ... ne smem ni da pretpostavim koliki bi mogao da bude mortalitet (ili incidencija povezanih bolesti "nepoznate etiologije") u ovoj populaciji 😞 "

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The first Covid lockdowns saved 10,000 lives in Europe and US had 'little or no effect' on the virus death rate, updated analysis suggests.

A review by an international team of economists found draconian shutdowns only reduced Covid mortality by 3 per cent in the UK, US and Europe in 2020.

The experts, from Johns Hopkins University in the US, Lund University in Sweden and the Danish think-tank the Center for Political Studies, said that equates to 6,000 fewer deaths in Europe and 4,000 fewer in the US.

This figures is a revised from the group's first report last year, which found lockdowns cut Covid deaths by just 0.2 per cent. The team said the updated figure is down to changes in their calculations and new studies.

But they still conclude: 'Stricter lockdowns are not an effective way of reducing mortality rates during a pandemic, at least not during the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic.'

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Their report does not look at the effect of lockdowns excess deaths, which includes people who died from other causes because hospitals were shut, for example. 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10856933/Lockdowns-saved-just-10k-lives-Europe-combined-Study-finds-little-no-effect.html

 

 

isti medij:

Thousands more Americans may be living with undiagnosed HIV than before Covid struck, official figures have suggested, in a warning sign the devastating virus is spreading again in the United States.

The annual surveillance report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports new diagnoses fell by about two percent every year since 2016. But in 2020, the latest available data, they tumbled 17 percent to 30,000 new cases — which was 5,000 fewer than would be expected based on previous trends.

At the same time the number of CDC-funded swabs for the virus fell by half from 2.4 to 1.2 million, one of the lowest numbers on record, leading officials to fear many cases have gone unnoticed.

In its report the agency said the 'steep reduction' in new cases was 'likely due to disruptions in clinical care, patient hesitancy... and shortages in HIV testing reagents/materials'. Bruce Packett, director of American Academy of HIV medicine, told DailyMail.com it was 'very likely' thousands of cases had been missed.

He warned that — in line with other sexually transmitted diseases — cases of HIV may now be 'level' or 'even increasing', in a reversal of the gradual decline since for the past four years. The CDC warns other STIs like gonorrhea and syphilis may already be at record highs.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10854241/Thousands-Americans-living-diagnosed-HIV-report-shows.html

 

U principu unistili smo ekonomiju, deca su zaostala u razvoju, da bi spasili 7k ljudi koliko ce otprilike dobiti HIV

 

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Vaccination remains critically important in the battle against COVID-19 but is only part of the solution, first author Ziyad Al-Aly, MD, said in a Washington University news release.

"Vaccinations reduce the risk of hospitalization and dying from COVID-19," he said. "But vaccines seem to only provide modest protection against long COVID. People recovering from breakthrough COVID-19 infection should continue to monitor their health and see a health-care provider if lingering symptoms make it difficult to carry out daily activities."

Al-Aly noted that an estimated 8% to 12% of vaccinated people test positive for COVID-19. "Our current approach will likely leave a large number of people with chronic and potentially disabling conditions that have no treatments," he said. "This will not only affect people’s health, but their ability to work, life expectancy, economic productivity and societal well-being."

He called for the implementation of sustainable long-COVID risk-reduction strategies such as nasal vaccines that are more convenient or potent than the currently available versions and other types of vaccines or drugs.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2022/05/vaccines-lower-risk-long-covid-15-death-34-data-show

 

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23 minutes ago, vilhelmina said:

U Grckoj od jucer ne trebaju maske osim u javnom prevozu gde nisu numerisana sedista, znaci uglavnom gradski prevoz. Ja danas stigla na Kretu i vidim da ih dosta ljudi ipak i dalje nosi, valjda navikli.

Stokholmski sindrom 🙂

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@vilhelmina Ovde su maske preporučene u zatvorenim prostorima. U Domovima zdravlja i ostalim zdravstvenim centrima ( bolnice, klinike ) maska je obavezna.

 

Kada je prevoz u pitanju, ne nosim masku ukoliko idem stanicu, dve busićem, ovde  na mom kraju. Kad idem negde dalje nosim masku..i primećujem da je još poneko nosi u javnom prevozu. 

 

Da li je kod vas najavljena druga buster doza tokom jeseni? 

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6 hours ago, Devojka Luke Razića said:

@vilhelmina Ovde su maske preporučene u zatvorenim prostorima. U Domovima zdravlja i ostalim zdravstvenim centrima ( bolnice, klinike ) maska je obavezna.

 

Kada je prevoz u pitanju, ne nosim masku ukoliko idem stanicu, dve busićem, ovde  na mom kraju. Kad idem negde dalje nosim masku..i primećujem da je još poneko nosi u javnom prevozu. 

 

Da li je kod vas najavljena druga buster doza tokom jeseni? 


I u Svedskoj su maske obavezne u svim zdravstvenim ustanovama, bile sve vreme i jos uvek su. Ima mesta pitanju zasto jedno isto ministarstvo zdravlja sve vreme insistira na tome kako maske nemaju svrhu i nepotrebne su, a onda ih propisuje kao obavezne u sopstvenim ustanovama. 

Sto se tice cetvrte doze, nju vec sada mogu da dobiju stariji od 65 ili 70 godina (zavisi od okruga) i jos neke ugrozene grupe tj pojedinci uz preporuku lekara. Za ostale se ne najavljuje.

 

I jos jedna zanimljivost vezana za Svedsku (koliko cujem, ne samo nju) i covid. Kako su s letnjom sezonom krenula putovanja, pojavio se ozbiljan problem na sigurnosnim kontrolama na aerodromima. Oko 500 ljudi koje su svojevremeno otpustili, sad ne mogu opet da nahvataju, a posledica su ogromni redovi. Ljudi dolaze kasno uvece i nocu da bi stali u red, prosli kontrolu i stigli na jutarnje letove. I sama sam jucer ujutro ispostovala preporuku i dosla tri i po sata pre leta. I sta se desilo? Guzva na sigurnosnoj kontroli i nije bila bas velika, ali se za kafu na gejtovima cekalo po pola sata i vise jer se pokazalo da smo svi dosli super prerano. Vise od pola sata pre leta smo svih 400 vec sedeli u avionu i poleteli malo pre planiranog vremena. U normalnim okolnostima uvek neko kasni pa ga traze 😂.

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A new study by Israeli researchers and published in Nature has revealed an increase of over 25 percent in cardiovascular-related emergency calls in the young-adult population, following the rollout of COVID vaccines, among both males and females. No similar increase was found due to COVID infection alone.

Israel health authorities and the U.S. Centers of Disease Control (CDC) have acknowledged a link between COVID vaccines and specific cardiovascular complications. The risk of myocarditis after receiving a second vaccine dose is now estimated to be between 1 in 3000 to 1 in 6000 in men aged 16 to 24.

Recent articles in scientific journals, however, have sought to suggest that cardiovascular complications following COVID infection are more common than those following vaccination. This assertion is contradicted by the findings from a recent study conducted by Israeli researchers, using data from Israel National Emergency Medical Services (EMS) related to "cardiac arrest and acute coronary syndrome EMS calls in the 16–39-year-old population" between 2019 and 2021. This enabled them to compare baseline (pre-COVID epidemic) to COVID epidemic without vaccines, to COVID epidemic following widespread vaccine takeup.

An increase of over 25% was detected in both call types during January–May 2021, compared with the years 2019–2020. That is to say, "increased rates of vaccination ... are associated with increased number of CA [cardiac arrest] and ACS [acute coronary syndrome]." By contrast, the trial "did not detect a statistically significant association between the COVID-19 infection rates and the CA and ACS weekly call counts."

While the dangers of myocarditis for young males have gained widespread attention, this study found a larger increase in CA and ACS events among females that was linked to COVID vaccination.

Myocarditis is known to be a "major cause of sudden, unexpected deaths in adults less than 40 years of age and is assessed to be responsible for 12–20% of these deaths," the study's authors note. They add that their findings have been mirrored by researchers in Germany and Scotland.

They caution that given these findings, "It is essential to raise awareness among patients and clinicians with respect to related symptoms (e.g., chest discomfort and shortness of breath) following vaccination or COVID-19 infection to ensure that potential harm is minimized."

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Privatna ordinacija, snimanje FA levog oka na zahtev dr koja prati melanom, rade to i na Klinici ali.....mi sa melanomom oka nismo vise njihovi pacijenti pa tako, 20 000 na sunce i venu na izvol te....ulazim sa maskom, racunam, protocna sredina pa masovno kad - ja jedina sa maskom, ni osoblje je nema. Cekam svoj red, jedna g dja ustaje i izlazi iz pordinacije, vraca se posle desetak minuta sa sve maskom, ocigledno da je skoknula do obliznje apoteke. Dok dlanom o dlan, svo osoblje se zamaskiralo tako da dr, anesteziolog i ja nismo duvali jedan drugom u lice tokom snimanja....moja potencijalno prosvetiteljska uloga je za taj dan odradjena. 

Ne koristim NK 95 vec obicne ali sa 4 sloja ili sa srebrom, sta dohvatim, nekako mi se osladilo da je nosim. Iskreno, nije da se sakrivam od virusa vec vise onako, od svega sto vise ne mogu da podnesem a dogadja se na sve strane. To mi je isto kao da zazmurim pa verujem da, ako ja ne vidim "TO", ni ono ne vidi mene. 

Ceracemo se jos....

 

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Da li neko prati izjave SZO? 

 

https://rs.n1info.com/svet/szo-moguc-novi-mnogo-opasniji-soj-koronavirusa-otporan-na-sadasnje-vakcine/

 

Iz teksta izdvajam:

 

" Generalni direktor Svetske zdravstvene organizacije Tedros Adhanom Gebrejesus upozorio je da je sasvim realno da se pojavi novi, mnogo opasniji soj koronavirusa, koji će biti otporan na sadašnje vakcine." 

 

" Još je isuviše rano da proglasimo kraj pandemije, kazao je Gebrejezus i dodao da je u ovom trenutku veoma teško predvideti na koji način će se virus menjati." 

 

Šta je čovek hteo da kaže? 

 

 

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Kontradiktoran je i bolje da nije dao ovakvu izjavu. 

 

Naravno da ne može još da se proglasi kraj pandemije. Ali je besmisleno u prvoj rečenici stvarati paniku vezanu za nov soj.  Niko nema čarobnu kuglu koja otkriva šta će biti tokom jeseni.

 

I čemu ovo  "   otporan na sadašnje vakcine" kada se zna da Fajzer i druge farmaceutske kompanije već duže vreme rade na vakcinama novije generacije.

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9 hours ago, Harmonika said:

ne obracaj paznju, prosto i jednostavno..a kontradiktornost je srednje ime ove pandemije..vreme ce  pokazati gde smo i kuda idemosa koronom..ako ne pre, na jesen cemo bas videti..

 

Zasto na jesen? COVID nije sezonski virus. 

 

 

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Mogucnost da se virus "razvije" u opasniju varijantu uvek postoji i tesko se moze, s velikom sigurnoscu, reci da li ce, kad ce, etc...

 

Ono sto je dobro je da, uz ovakve nikakve mere (globalno) i uz visoko infektivnu varijantu, brojevi su i dalje u opadanju.

 

Juce sam doputivala iz US u NL, na aerodromima (Orlando, Dublin, Amsterdam) maske nosi 10 % ljudi, u avionu mozda nekih 20 %.

 

Jedino u Amsterdamu videh jednog Kineza u "punoj covid opremi" 

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1 hour ago, Sunshine State said:

Ono sto je dobro je da, uz ovakve nikakve mere (globalno) i uz visoko infektivnu varijantu, brojevi su i dalje u opadanju.

 

Sunčice, šta ti, kao neko ko ima znanja o virusu i vakcinama misliš o tome zašto su brojevi u opadanju?

 

Pitam jer znam da ste ti i Eddard mnogo stručniji od svih nas koji redovno pišemo na ovoj temi.

 

 

 

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