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Like Novak Djokovic, his runner-up Daniil Medvedev, refuses to say if he is vaccinated. Like Alexander Zverev, he has expressed his skepticism about vaccines, and does not wish to publicize his vaccination status. In Moscow, where he withdrew this week, the winner of the US Open hinted that he would be ready to carry out a quarantine, the type of the drastic one experienced by participants of the Australian Open in 2021. Namely: two weeks isolated in a hotel room with five hours of daily outing to train at the stadium; and a strict fortnight for 72 contact cases. "If these players got a visa, they would probably have to stay in quarantine for two weeks, unlike the other players" vaccinated ", had actually hinted Dan Andrew, giving hope to the antivaccines. Except that the Australian Minister of Immigration Alex Hawke, for his part, closed the door Thursday in an interview with the radio "RN Breakfast": "If we open our borders, all those who come to Australia must have the double vaccination" . The message is crystal clear. No exception therefore for the gratin of world tennis.

 

primer kako "ugledni" novinari pogresno prenose i interpretiraju igrace, kako im se cefne.

 

Ni Medvedev ni Zverev nisu ni jednom dovodili u pitnje (covid-19) vakcine (ni jedna nije ni jednom rekao ist ni priblizno kao Novak). Ni Zverev ni Medveev nisu ni jednom rekli da su oni spremni da odrade 14 dana karantin umesto vakcinisanja. Naprotiv, obojica su manje-vise potvrdila da su vakcinisana (ali nisu to izricito rekli), Medvedev je izricito rekao (postavila sam video na temi Izvan i iza turnira) da veruje da oni koji nisu vakcinisani, a morali bi da idu u 14 dana karantin, nece ni ici u Australiju, vec ce mozda izmisliti izgovor (povreda) i da ce se tad videti ko je vakcinisan a ko ne.

 

Ono kad novinari namerno pogresno interpretiraju igrace da bi valjda njihovi tekstovi bili bombasticniji, sta li.

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ono kad "novinari" nemaju pojma o cemu pricaju:

ovaj nije gledao tenis i Novaka poslednjih 5 godina minimum.

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After failing to become the first man to complete the calendar year grand slam since Rod Laver in 1969 at this year’s U.S. Open, how will Novak look in his first tournament back?

a volim i sto tekst pocinje u pozitivnom "raspolozenju" :classic_rolleyes:

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Novak Djokovic is currently tied with Rafael Nadal with 36 Masters 1000 titles in their careers, which is an outstanding number. But the Paris Masters tournament is one of the trickiest on the calendar.

koji je Novak osvojio vec 5 puta... :wink2:

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Ni Tignor nije nista bolji:

Tignor:

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When Djokovic exited the US Open in disappointed defeat last month, he sounded as if he might not come back until 2022. “I don’t know if I’ll play anything, anywhere,” he said.

gde je to Novak rekao?

 

ovo je s njegove poslednje KZS u NY (engleski deo):

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ND: I still want to keep going, try to win more slams, play for my country.

ND: For the last couple of years I've been very transparent and vocal about my goals, to play my best tennis at slams.

 

Tignor malo pobrkao loncice, 2021 s KZS posle poraza od Cecchinata na RG pre x godina.

 

ovde ima i srpski deo KZS, od 5:55:

na 11:10 (posle pitanja hoce li igrati IW i koji su planovi za dalje) kaze: "nemam nikakav plan, apsolutno ne znam da li cu igrati bilo sta bilo gde, ne znam. trenutno sam samo mislima ovde u NY."

 

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His long-term plan, he had announced when he set the ATP record for weeks at No. 1 earlier in 2021, had been to concentrate solely on the Slams from now on.

pa nije bas tako rekao, rekao je i da hoce da igra za reprezentaciju (znaci DC, ATP Cup (ako bude isao za Australiju), eventualno OI za 3 godine (ako ne ode u penziju do tad i ako se kvalifikuje)) .

Na stranu sto ne treba uzimati uvek ozbiljno ono sto igraci kazu neposredno posle (velikog) poraza (i veoma naporne sezone).

 

Sto se tice "konfrontacije s australijskom vladom" :ajme::twak: - sta on ima da se konfrontira s australijskom vladom? Koliko sam ja ispratila s Novakove  strane nije bilo nikakve konfrontacije (niti je davao ikakve intervjue mesec dana, niti je igde ista komentarisao), jedini koji su ispaljivali strelice su bili pojedini australijski ministri (koji su njega direktno izdvajali i napadali da bi posluzio "za primer" Australijancima u kampanji za vakcinaciju - totalno politicki potez). Plus australijski mediji. Novak niti je ikoga ucenjivao, niti je ista zahtevao, niti je kritikovao mere australijske vlade. A i kako on kao pojedinac moze ista da zahteva i konfrontira se s vladom jedne zemlje? Mislim, svasta.

 

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Djokovic, who wasn’t happy with the Covid rules Down Under last year, and who hasn’t revealed his vaccination status, says he may or may not make the trip in 2022.

i opet "navodjenje vode na svoju vodenicu" tj. pogresna interpretacija dogadjaja s pocetka godine da bi sve pasovalo narativu koji se forsira.

Na stranu to sto je Tignor pogubljen pa nema pojma ni u kojoj godini pise, ni kad se sta desavalo: prosle godine (aka 2020) AO je odrzan regularno, ove godine (aka 2021) su postojala posebna pravila s 14 dana strogog karantina za najveci deo igrac (osim za 10-tak njih koji su bili smesteni u Adelaidu, izmedju ostlih i Novak, imali bolje uslove i igrali egzibiciju). Elem, Novak je razgovarao s turnirom da se olaksaju uslovi za trening u kojima su njegove kolege (a protivnici na terenu), a da sve to bude u skladu s epidemioloskim merama. Kako je trazenje da se poboljsa ishrana tenisera, da im se daju spravice za vezbanje i da se eventualno nekima omoguci da budu prebaceni u neke izolovane kuce s terenima (gde se i dalje ne bi ni sa kim mesali, ali bi imali terene za trening, kao sto je prethodno bilo u NY, tokom USO) ikakvo suptrotstavljanje corona merama?

:twak:

No, bitno je da se istraje na narativu koji se forsira: kako Novak evo vec 18 meseci (od Adria toura) ide okolo po svetu i zarazava ceo svet (jer: jednom zarzen coronom = zauvek zarazan za sve!). :twak:

 

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Hopefully, the prospect of missing out on a chance to win his 10th Australian Open title, and his 21st major overall, will be enough to convince him to join the nearly three billion people worldwide who have already received their double dose.

jos jednom: pojednostavljenje i pogresna interpretacija onog sto struka kaze. Kao prvo: JJ vakcina se jos uvek daje kao 1 doza vakcina (prema preporukama proizvodjaca i nadleznih regulatornih tela). Drugo: mnoge zemlje (recimo Nemacka) tretiraju one koji su ranije inficirani takodje kao imunizovne (sad, tu postoje cake oko toga koliko dugo: 6 meseci, godinu dana...), ili im se nakon 6 meseci od zarazavanja daje samo 1 doza. Hoce sad forsirati Sabalenku da uzme 2 doze ili nista od igranja na AO (iako je to protivno trenutnim naucnim zakljuccima i medicinskim preporukama)? Dakle, jos jedno "skraceno" i netacno interpretiranje struke. Pa ce posle biti "naucnici krivi jer svaki cas menjaju misljenje" kad novinari konacno prenesu informaciju kako treba. I Sabalenki bude dozvoljeno da udje u Australiju bez 2 doze vakcine (bas me zanima hoce li vrli teniski "novinari" da je matretiraju i pitaju da li se konacno vkcinisala, pa da onda opletu po njoj kad bude rekla da nije - iako to sve veze s vezom nema s naukom).

 

 

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ono kad se mesaju/porede babe i zabe (i pokusava da se bude "kreativan" :classic_rolleyes: u napadima na Djokovica) i pogresno pokusava da poentira:

https://www.pressreader.com/article/282213719023182

"Djokovic DESERVES to be banned"

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Novak Djokovic cites privacy as being the main reason for not stating whether he has been, or will be, vaccinated, yet is obviously happy for all to know he wears contact lenses, is on a strickt vegan diet and allows on-court injuries or problems to be attended to in full view.

:ajme::twak:

cekam sad da neko bude toliko kreativan da mu spocitava to sto ima tamnu kosu i smedj(kast)e oci jer je i to Djokovic stavio na uvid celom svetu, umesto da krije kao privatnu stvar. :classic_rolleyes:

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Andy Murray blames his own 'poor attitude' for his straight-sets loss to Diego Schwartzman at the European Open

 

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The diminutive Argentine, 29, saluted Murray after the match, saying: 'When I grew up playing tennis, I was watching Andy, Roger and Rafa, so I have huge respect for him as an opponent

prema Daily Mailu Diego nije gledao Novaka.

 

ili ga je mozda gledao na BBC-u: :smiley33:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/59000564

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"I have a lot of respect because when I grew up playing tennis, I was watching Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic and right now, playing against him is a pleasure for me."

 

oba puta Diegove reci stavljene pod navodnike.

Znaju li ovi ljudi sta znaci kad se stave necije reci pod navodnike (tzv. novinari)? Ja ostajem takodje zbunjena: da li ih je Diego pomenuo koristeci njihova puna imena ili samo imena/nadimke :smiley24: i kojim redosledom?

 

znam, "sitnicarim" :classic_biggrin: , ali ili radis posao kako treba ili sve proizvoljno prenosis (pa zasluzujes da dobijes etiketu fake news).

 

ATP sajt navodi Diegove reci ovako: https://www.atptour.com/en/news/murray-schwartzman-antwerp-2021-thursday

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“We had not played before and he is coming back and every week he is playing better and moving better. I have a lot of respect because when I grew up playing tennis, I was watching Roger [Federer], Rafa [Nadal], Andy and Novak [Djokovic] and right now playing against him, is a pleasure for me.”

 

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kakav bombasticni naslov:

‘Counting down’: Tennis fans erupt over Novak Djokovic news

a ni tekst ispod nije nista bolji:

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The World No.1 hasn’t played since losing in the final of the US Open in August,

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USO je bio od 30.8. do 12.9., pri cemu je Novakov poslednji mec bio 12.9. - u sred ... "avgusta" :ajme:

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Djokovic stunned fans last month with his withdrawal from Indian Wells,

:classic_rolleyes:

 

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On 9/13/2021 at 9:59 PM, wwww said:

Viskovic i Govedarica pricaju  I Viskovic gotovo da je ubedio Govedaricu , dok se u neko doba Govedarica, na sta se Viskovic "koriguje" i 

sacuvaj boze! :lol_2:

 

 

On 9/13/2021 at 10:21 PM, alcesta said:

Meni nije jasno, ajde pokrenuli su taj podkast jednom nedeljno, tu su sad i sponzori i tako dalje, ali koji ih đavo tera da snimaju one vlogove 

 

On 9/27/2021 at 10:12 PM, Boxy said:

Je l si cula? :lol_2::lol_2::lol_2:

skoro pa da sam pocela da se smejem naglas, sama sa sobom

 

On 9/27/2021 at 10:18 PM, Boxy said:

Dobro, Govedarica je sav u fazonu fizike, mehanike, sve strucno objasnjava...znas i kako prenosi tenis, zavrteo spin ovako, onako itd :lol_2:

 

On 9/27/2021 at 10:37 PM, alcesta said:

Dobro vi imate strpljenja da sve to odslušate svake nedelje :classic_biggrin:

:lol_2:

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https://www.essentiallysports.com/atp-tennis-news-casper-ruud-reaches-incredible-landmark-ahead-of-novak-djokovic-in-2021-season/

 

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Casper Ruud Reaches Incredible Landmark Ahead of Novak Djokovic in 2021 Season

 

hmmm, da li bi se Novak menjao s Casperom :smiley33::smiley24::smiley33::smiley24:

 

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And now, the 22-year-old has recorded his 50th ATP match win of the season, six more than the World No.1 Novak Djokovic. An incredible feat, indeed.

For starters, Djokovic has had an incomparable year with a 27-1 Grand Slam record and a 44-6 win-loss ratio so far. But comparatively, Ruud has attained more titles and more match wins than the Serbian ace. Accordingly, the Norwegian star is also close to booking a spot in the season-ending ATP Finals for the first time.

:smiley33::smiley24: i dalje nisam sigurna da bi se Novak menjao...

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Primarily, Casper Ruud defeated Llyod Harris in the Vienna Open 2021, his 50th win of the season. Also, it is his 20th tournament of the year.

 

 

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On the other side, Novak Djokovic has recorded a 44-6 win-loss record in the 2021 season so far. And for this, he competed in merely nine tournaments. Additionally, the 34-year-old has lifted four titles this year, including three Grand Slams: Australian Open, French Open, and Wimbledon. Indeed, one of the best seasons of his entire career.

ma nije valjda?!?!? :classic_ohmy:

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In comparison, both Ruud and Djokovic have cemented their dominance on the ATP Tour this season. And although their achievements are unique, they both have focused on winning quite similarly.

 

ko je ovoga ucio da pise, ko mu je predavao "maternji jezik i knjizevnost" u skoli? boze me ti se sakloni nacina pisanja teksta.

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ko je ovoga ucio da pise, ko mu je predavao "maternji jezik i knjizevnost" u skoli? boze me ti se sakloni nacina pisanja teksta.

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For starters, Djokovic has had an incomparable year with a 27-1 Grand Slam record and a 44-6 win-loss ratio so far. But comparatively, Ruud has attained more titles and more match wins than the Serbian ace. 

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slusam sad neki britanski teniski podcast (s Dzordzom Belshoom i jos neka dva tipa cije komentarisanje mi se genralno mnogo manje dopada).

Elem, naravno da je prva tema vakcinisanje i naravno da prvo diskutuju Novaka, ali odmah posle toga krece prica o Sabalenki (gde ni jednom ne pada na pamet da je Sabalenka upravo prelezala covid i da stoga ne bi ni trebalo da se vakcinise u narednih 6 meseci). Elem, ubacuju oni tu sad i Azarenku (a koja se vakcinisala pre gotovo pola godine) i njen komentar na twit Bena Rotenberga o onom emailu koji je bio upucen WTA igracicama. I tip tu mrtav ladan ubacuje njenu zemlju porekla i Lukasenka i to da su svi oni antivakseri i ne veruju u postojanje pandemije itd. A Azarenka se medju prvima vakcinisala i to lepo twitovala! :ajme:  No, bitna je njena zemla porekla! :classic_dry:  Bez obzira na neke stvari koje mi se ne svidjaju kod Azarenke, ovo je totalna glupost za sta je ovaj tip proziva, i totalno nema veze s zivotom i s istinom. Cista ksenofobija!

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Croft and Whitaker before Nole's QF match:

- Fritz is v confident, playing great & in form of his life!!

- Novak is rusty, only played 1 match since his USO loss and he struggled a lot.

 

Nole wins...

"Novak's much fresher bc he didnt play many matches since USO like Fritz."

 

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google prevod L Equipeovog teksta u kom postavljaju Novaku "zadatak" za obaranje rekorda:

 

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Sign the calendar Grand Slam

His failure in the US Open final this year after winning the Australian Open, Roland Garros and Wimbledon will undoubtedly remain as the most violent of his career. The Serbian had the unique opportunity to achieve what neither Roger Federer nor Rafael Nadal managed to achieve. To erase it, we would have to manage to recreate such an opportunity and rebuild this armor that exploded in New York against Daniil Medvedev. His tears even before the match was over showed the inordinate pressure he faced during this XXL but inevitably frustrating year.

:ajme:

 

ono kad od 3GS 🏆 i 1 finala (i na jednu pobedu od CYGS) napravis da bude katastrofa, poraz (failure), frustrirajuci itd. :twak:

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Sad sam po ugledu na vas uključila Wish&Go da mi ide u pozadini dok radim nešto.

Ide dijalog:

 

NV: Šta misliš koliko je sporija podloga u Parizu ove godine pomogla Novaku? 

IG: Sporija u odnosu na šta?

NV: Na prošlu godinu.

IG: Pa Novak prošle godine nije igrao Pariz.

NV: ...

Ma nema veze, ja pričam u odnosu na prošlu godinu. Recimo u odnosu na USO.

IG: Ahaaa (kao sve mu je jasno :classic_biggrin: )

 

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