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For the sake of clarity, gornji tekst je laž/izmišljotina. Norwegian Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority je, nakon serije ovakvih tekstova, objavio pojašnjenje da konstatovano kratkotrajno povećanje radioaktivnosti ne može da ima negativne posledice po ljudsko zdravlje:

 

 
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DSA, referring to headlines in the Russian media regarding the increased radioactivity after the accident in Arkhangelsk last week:Local Severodvinsk authorities and the Russian Meteorological Institute both report on the occurrence of a spike in radioactivity August 8. The heightened levels reportedly lasted approx. 30 minutes.

The increase may have been up to 20 times higher than the normal background levels.
Such an increase, however, does not represent any health impacts for the locals in Severodvinsk.
Health impacts for the local community would only be possible if the levels had increased more than 1000 times the normal background values, in the short time the spike lasted.
DSA has not measured any increase in radioactivity so far.
DSA has observed the available Russian monitoring stations, which report to the European Commissions data Center.
The results show no abnormal mean for the 24-hour interval after the accident.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Beonegro said:

For the sake of clarity, gornji tekst je laž/izmišljotina. Norwegian Radiation and Nuclear Safety Authority je, nakon serije ovakvih tekstova, objavio pojašnjenje da konstatovano kratkotrajno povećanje radioaktivnosti ne može da ima negativne posledice po ljudsko zdravlje: ... 

 

 

Ako treba da biram izmedju norge budalasa, placenih kremaljskih idiJota i ruskog novinara sa dugogodisnjim stazom i poznavanja vojne problematike - jasan je izbor.

 

Ne, u Severodvinsku se nista nije dogodilo.

Nije bilo idiJotskog eksperimenta poludele militaristiske zgadije koja je htela da ugodi kramlajskom degeneriku. Nije bilo ni eksplozije divajsa, nije bilo ni poginulih - svi mirno i lepo odsetali kuci. Doduse, neki, neprepoznati, u olovnim kovcezima.

Nije dosao brod koji skuplja tecne nuklearne materijale, nisu ni posada, a i ostali ocevici potpisali obavezu da cute.

Ni vojska nije nista saopstila, ni lokalne vlasti, niti menjali svoja haoticna / panicna saopstenja

Nema ni povecanja radijacije koja je u manjim kolicinama zdrava i moze se preporuciti umesto suncanja, sto se posebno preporucuje za severne skandinavce.

 

Sve je izgleda samo ujdurma Goljca / Kinika.

 

A saostenje norge tupadzija najvise lici na saopstenje iz Msk. posle akcidenta u Cernobilju.

Ni tada nicega nije bilo, pa je cak odrzana 'prvomajska parada'.

 

Ostalo znamo.

 

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Neki 4umski klijenti mi vise na ignore-u, no samo zbog 4umasa.

 

'Ebe mi se za 'norge zvanicno tijelo'.

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Ti su o nuklearnoj fizici i raznim divajsima citali iz tudjih udzbenika / skripti.

Takodje mi je potpuno neinteresantna neka lokalna norge zadruga i njena diluzija.

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Svaka njima cast na slucajnoj nafti & gasu - no to je poprilicna sirotinja u glavu. Vrlo umisljena.

Covek kad cita neka tamosnja 'progresivna' bulaznjenja samo moze da se zgrane.

 

No, istorija kaze da su drndosi 'zarad dobrih odnosa' vracali sovjetske begunce koji bi presli granicu.

:wicked: 

 

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Nidje napredne 'norge laboratorije iz shupe'.

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>> ... Šta nam otkriva tajanstvena eksplozija o ruskom 'oružju sudnjeg dana'?
Analitičari zapravo i ne znaju šta je "Burevestnik", ali smatraju da je to neka vrsta krstareće rakete u kojoj je nuklearni reaktor.
Izvor: Beta, subota, 17.08.2019.


Jedna eksplozija, objavljena pa naglo otkazana evakuacija jednog sela, pet mrtvih nuklearnih stručnjaka i nešto tragova radioaktivnog joda u vazduhu iznad severne obale Norveške - to je sve što se, po svemu sudeći, zna o najnovijem neuspešnom pokušaju Rusije da isproba svoju novu raketu "Burevestnik", nazvanu na Zapadu "Skajfol", piše CNN.

 

Ruski predsednik Vladimir Putin je tvrdio da ta raketa ima neograničen domet i da može da nadmaši sva američka sredstva odbrane od napada iz vazduha. Ali ovomesečna proba to nije pokazala, a to i nije prvi put.

 

Visok nivo radijacije u tom području, koji potencijalno može doseći i do Norveške, daje uverljivost toj teoriji.

Putinov portparol, Dmitrij Peskov, odbio je da potvrdi široko rasprostranjene međunarodne spekulacije da je u nesreći učestvovala krstareća raketa na nuklearni pogon.

 

Džon Hokis, saradnik direktora "Jane's IHS Markit" za kopneno oružje, rekao je da s obzirom na to da Rusi tvrde da taj projektil ima neograničen domet, moglo bi se pretpostaviti da je to raketni motor koji uvlači vazduh i greje ga nuklearnim reaktorom s malim jezgrom, te struja pregrejanog vazduha koji se izbacuje, stvara potisak.

 

Glavni problem s tim projektilom s oznakom "9M370", ili "SSC-x-9 Skyfall" - kako ga NATO naziva, je izduv jer nuklearni reaktor ne može se koristiti za pogon rakete, a da se ona ne pretvori u "prljavu krilatu bombu". "To zaista jeste oružje sudnjeg dana", rekao je dr Mark Galeoti, sa britanskog vojnog Instituta za odbrambene i bezbednosne studije.

"To se ne bi moglo koristiti nu u čemu drugom osim u nuklearnom ratu punih razmera. To je krstareća raketa koja može da dugo ostane u vazduhu, a dok leti za sobom bljuje radioaktivni pljusak".

 

SAD su zaista imale sličan program tokom 1960-ih godinaa, nazvan "Projekt Pluton" koji je napušten jer su zaključili da je previše opasan.

 

Kad je Putin marta 2018. godine svečano objavio postojanje te rakete, istakao je njene neograničen domet: da može da obleti svet mnogo puta, a zatim da sama napadne svoju metu i to iz neočekivanog ugla, možda čak i danima nakon lansiranja.

Galeoti smatra da se Putin ne sekira što izgleda da to do sada nije tako dobro funkcionisalo. 

 

"Rusija Vladimira Putina u osnovi pokušava da se napumpa", rekao je on. "Pokušava da vojno izgleda strašnije nego što jeste. Iako im se ne sviđa što to nije uspelo, činjenica da govorimo o najnovijoj ruskoj vojnoj tehnologiji je definitivno za njih jedan plus".

 

Američki zvaničnici su za CNN rekli da je taj projektil testiran nekoliko puta, ali nikada u potpunosti uspešno. Koliko je odmakao taj projekat i koliko je ovo veliki zastoj, samo se nagađa.

 

Kremlj je samo tokom poslednjih mesec dana imao niz incidenata. Početkom jula, AS-31, ili "Lošarik" - super-tajna špijunska podmornica za super-dubine, upala je u nevolju kraj severne obale. Državni mediji su rekli da je 14 mornara umrlo od udisanja gasova, a Kremlj je tvrdio da je nuklearni reaktor podmornice bio netaknut kada je vraćena u luku.

 

Nedelju dana kasnije, na deponiji municije u Ačinsku desio se niz eksplozija tokom pet sati, od kojih su neke prouzrokovale razorne udarne talase. Nedelju dana kasnije lokalni zvaničnici su priznali da je četrdesetak ljudi povređeno.

Andrej Kortunov, generalni direktor Saveta za međunarodne poslove Rusije, rekao je da, "ako se pogleda sadašnje stanje, budžet za odbranu Ruske Federacije je vrhunac dostigao 2016. godine", od kada se smanjuje.

 

"Dakle, u osnovi, od vojske i odbrambenog sektora se traži da urade više za manje", dodao je on, "a to bi moglo biti uzrok napetosti. Možda su neke od ovih nesreća deo cene koju vojska mora da plati jer ima relativno skroman budžet, a velike ambicije", preneo je CNN. ... <<

 

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>> ... Mademoiselle Radijacija

Vitalij Portnjikov

15.08.2019

 

Kao osoba koja je preživela Černobil, dobro razumem emocije ljudi koji su bili žrtve nesreće u blizini Severodvinska. Setite se kako je nerazumevanje ustupilo mesto nepoverenju, a nepoverenje bespomoćnosti. Kako su se glasine množile, prerasle su u fantastične detalje. Kao i svaka nesreća, izgledalo je kao presuda: tada sam oboleo od rubeole, a kod odraslih to ne ide dobro, tesko se dijagnosticira, ali lekari su samo slegali ramenima: šta da radimo, brda leševa u bolnicama!

Radijacija!

 

Bilo je drugačije nego u TV seriji. Bilo je odvratno. Odvratno je videti da vas ne smatraju osobom. Odvratno je shvatiti da vas kontrolisu idioti. Da ništa ne znate - a radi se o vašem zdravlju, o vašoj budućnosti, o vašim voljenima, o vašem životu. Upravo odvratnost, odvratnost do mučnine. Shvatanje da režim koji na takav nacin tretira svoje sugrađane, ne iz ideoloških razloga, već samo radi očuvanja sopstvenog ruznog lica, jednostavno nema pravo da postoji. Mora propasti, hteli to "sovjetski ljudi" ili ne. Mora - jer mrtvo, zato sto je mrtvo ne može da živ.

 

Eto, i kod Severodvinska je isto. Bilo koja razumna vlast iskreno razgovara sa stanovništvom o posledicama nesreća i katastrofa - u stvari, za to je potrebna vlast, zato ljudi stvaraju države. Ali ne Putinova vlast, samo ne ovi hodajuci mrtvaci. Oni iz Černobila su doneli potpuno drugačiji zaključak: nije bilo dozvoljeno opustanje, sve je trebalo pažljivo proglasiti tajnom, ne dozvoliti neprijateljima i njihovim agentima da kompromituju vlast. Eto, ne dozvoljavaju. A šta će se biti sa ljudima u zaraženom regionu potpuno im je svejedno. Sta su - ljudi? Prilog uz vlast. Ove cemo sahranti, one nagradit, ove osuditi na robiju, tamo cemo izgraditi onkoloski centar, pa neka se razboljevaju.

 

Ljudi nisu glavna stvar, glavna stvar je Putin. Da se ne bi uznemirio, sacuvao dobro raspoloženje, a Rusi su se radovali za njega i zajedno sa njim. I ne treba da nas zanima kakva je radijaciona situacija u Severodvinsku i okolini, vise nego radiaciona situacija u Kremlju ili u Krasnoj Poljani. Ako je tamo sve u redu, onda je i u Rusiji sve u redu, da  parafraziramo aforizam jednog sramotnog carskog dvorjanina.

 

Među zvaničnicima Gorbačovljeve ere, ljudi iz partijske nomenklature, život se razlikovao od života njihovih podanika samo po stepenu bede - barem su svi zajedno izašli na te prvomajske demonstracije. I zato su još uvek mogli da razmišljaju o potrebi da podele informacije sa ljudima, da ih treba sacuvati, evakuisati, da bi trebalo evakuisati ne samo sopstvenu decu. Ali Putin i njegovi bliski saradnici toliko su udaljeni od malih ljudi kojima upravljaju i nad kojima se siti izivljavaju, da im tako nesto ne pada na pamet. Nekakva havarija, nekakve žrtve, zračenje? I gde - u nekoj rupi koju niko u Moskvi ne zna i koje se ne seća.

 

Neka Trump pise twitove o Severodvinsku i tvrdi da je dobro obavešten. Putin je takođe dobro informisan. Jednostavno ga ne zanimaju sve te informacije. Interesantno mu je da poseti, Sevastopolj, klekne na jedno koleno pred devojcicom-balerinom i kaže joj „mademoiselle“, pa neka svi uzdahnu i dive joj se. A radijacija može da sačeka. ... <<

 

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On 8/23/2019 at 3:24 PM, Amigo said:

Interesantan podatak, Rusije je postala najvezi izvoznik zita na svijetu :s_w:.

Prestigli su i Kanadu i SAD.

 

 

 

Vau , kakav uspeh, opet izvoz sirovina te eventualno nekog poluproizvoda..... 

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6 hours ago, Kronostime said:

Kad imas sirovina u izobilju i po povoljnoj ceni, to ti je adut na trzistu - ne trkanje za gotov proizvod.

 

Jeste, i zato su DR Kongo i Nigerija najbogatije zemlje na svetu, a ne Nemacka, Japan, J. Koreja, Svedska... oni su glupi sto proizvode konkretnu industrijsku hi-tech robu. 😁

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Kome jos uvjek nije jasno sta je Rusija danas:

 

Putin cited the Koran to admonish the Saudi coalition’s war on Yemen, saying that the Muslim holy book said the only legitimate form of violence was self-defense and, in that context, spoke of the Russian-made missile systems as a possible solution.

 

:classic_laugh:

 

https://www.rt.com/news/468948-putin-saudi-arabia-missiles/

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Russia – a threat against Europe forever?

Understanding the historical development of the Russian state

Miltiades Varvounis  1 April 2015

  
 

If anyone wants to understand why Russia has always been a mortal threat against the West, it is essential to examine the historical development of the Russian state. With the exception of the Central European peoples, westerners often consider Russia through the sphere of the Soviet Union and the Second World War. But we must look further back if we wish to understand the Russian nation and Kremlin’s long-term imperialistic aims and motivations.

 

A Byzantine-Asiatic culture

A simple explanation of the historically cultural elements and traditions that have influenced Russia and its civilization is much needed here. The confrontation between Russia and the Free World is often portrayed as a clash between East and West; and since the rise of Russia as a world power, the country has always been considered a representative of Asianism. Historical analysis, however, has revealed that Russia has a complex identity, a Byzantine-Asiatic one, which stands in sharp contrast with the values of the Western civilization.

 

 

The Byzantine Empire, indeed, contributed to the shaping of the country’s political culture and social organization by providing Russians with the gift of Orthodoxy. The millennium-old strong and unbroken presence of the Orthodox faith in Russia resulted in an ultra-conservative, anti-intellectual, anti-democratic, and xenophobic worldview that kept Russia isolated from the West for a number of centuries.

But one should remember that Mongols and Tatars ruled Russia from the thirteenth to the fifteenth century. These warriors of the steppe brought despotism, backwardness and ignorance to Russia. And it was this painful experience that caused Russia’s traditional adherence to the curbing of freedom and also Kremlin’s hostile attitude towards neighboring states.

The effects of the Mongol rule over Russian lands were profound and it influenced greatly the political, social, and religious facets of Russia. The very Mongolian cultural impacts are still evident today in Russia from on the language to on the form of the government. Had the chance been given to experience the Renaissance, as had the other European states, the political, religious and social thought structure of Russia would presumably differ greatly today than it really is now. However, despite the fact that the Russians became a more Asiatic nation in political and cultural terms as the result of the Mongol oppression, their deep Christian roots helped them maintain a link to Europe.

 

The Mongol yoke contributed to the course that Russian culture, political geography, history, and national identity would take. Nevertheless, the negative anti-western aspects of Russian political culture come not only from the Mongol Empire but also from the Byzantine world. Therefore, Byzantinism and Orthodoxy became deeply integrated with Asianism. This all-embracing Byzantinism-Asianism, a system of military theocracy-autocracy characterized by a Messianic imperialistic ideology, led to tragic results for the Russian people: a despotic state that subjugated the unfortunate Russians a long time ago and is continuing to do so. It is no wonder why the Tsarist Russia and Soviet Union were called “the prison of the peoples” and “the prison of the nations.”

To sum up, many analysts have wondered if Russians are a part of Europe. Undoubtedly, Russia has been connected to Europe for centuries. It is evident that geographically and culturally, the Russian people are actually “Eurasians” with a unique Byzantine-Asiatic mentality, not found elsewhere. However, the desperate effort of Russia to portray itself as a pure European did not prevent Russians to be hostile to the West in cultural, social and political dimensions, despite the admirable efforts of Peter the Great, actually a ruthless despot, to transform his semi-Asiatic barbaric nation into a completely modern westernized and European one.

 

Russia’s imperialistic ambitions

The most important idea for Russians from the fall of Byzantium until today is the idea of empire and they think they are an imperial nation with a holy mission to realize. Russian history is an unbroken chain of endless territorial expansion, bloody annexation, suffering and tragedies of conquered ethnic groups. The idea of empire has been always one of the most precious ones in Russian ideological lore and it is this that Russians proudly proclaim to other nations, especially their European and Caucasian neighbors, who had suffered for a long time under the Kremlin’s totalitarian rule.

 

 

 

The history of Russian imperialism began in the sixteenth century. From its very beginning, Russian expansion was steeped in the religious doctrine of the “Third Rome,” which was borrowed from the Byzantine tradition. However, the holy mission to “liberate” Constantinople, the Dardanelles, and the Balkans had to be postponed for the future. All of the Russian state’s aggressive wars of invasion in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries were against its numerous neighbors – the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Sweden, Livonia, the Khanates of Crimea, Kazan, Astrakhan, and the nomadic tribes of Siberia.

The territories which Russia acquired through her imperialistic wars from the eighteenth century to the early twentieth century (and during the Soviet period), such as Poland, Baltic States, Central Asia, Caucasus, Crimea and Finland, had no common aspects with the rest of Russian territory. These conquered regions were so different from the Russian authoritarian state in all conceivable aspects such as nationality, culture, traditions, and religion. For that reason, several cases of enforced Russification took place in most of the occupied areas, including the Eastern-Central European ones at the same time as the fact that tribes such as the Uralic and Volga-Finnic peoples were completely assimilated and their cultures disappeared.

It also has to be mentioned that the control of the Polish and Lithuanian lands by the Tsarist Russia (and later by the USSR) always threatened the fragile European balance of power and it proved disastrous for the West on several occasions since the nineteenth century. Poland, the heart of Europe, was not called Antemurale Christianitatis (Bulwark of Christendom) without a reason. The Poles did not only defend the values of the Western civilization from the Ottomans, but also from the Russian Empire’s anti-western holy divine mission (or the USSR’s anti-western mission of global Communist revolution) to expand itself against the Latin heretics and pluralism of the West.

The most important characteristic of the Russian and Soviet imperialism has always been the maximization of territorial expansion for the realization of economic, cultural and political interests as it has been one of the important principles of state policy. Moreover, it is not an exaggeration to say that the despotic states of Tsarist Russia and the USSR were built on the corpses of the non-Russian conquered peoples, who suffered for centuries under the yoke of the Kremlin’s imperialistic domination.

 

Russian paranoid mentality

Apart from the Russian expansionist agenda, a paranoid “besieged by the West” mentality has characterized the foreign policy and strategic thinking of the Kremlin for centuries. This anti-western dimension of Russia has a deeper layer. We have to keep in mind that Russia’s national identity has historically been shaped in opposition to its traditional military enemies – its European neighbors. The specific root of this phenomenon is linked to Catholicism that was historically perceived by the Russians as an obstacle to their Orthodox Messianic mission.

However, Russia did not only invade, but also was invaded a few times. The Russians saw all foreign invaders – Polish and Lithuanian forces, Napoleon – as hateful symbols of Western civilization that tried to destroy the last bastion of Orthodoxy. The Kremlin’s manipulation efforts of public opinion always try to emphasize those invasions, repeating ad nauseam for decades that the West is plotting to encircle Russia and invade and destroy the Russian “exceptional soul.”

So what is the main objective of Russian deceptive propaganda? It is the method of the aggressor playing the victim by using the classic “the West wants to dismember Russia and control her resources” motto. And such methods are enough to turn the tables by turning the invaders into victims in the eyes of the public. This kind of rhetoric enables effectively the Russian elites to officially justify their aggressive foreign policy by presenting it as defense-through-attack.

 

 

 

Another problem for the West is that Russia has established an image of being a champion of conservative values. Since the West is in decline, where political correctness, ultra-progressivism, unlimited materialism and globalization threaten the moral and traditional values of the Western civilization, Russia follows the steps of militant Islam by taking advantage of the West’s moral decay. To achieve its purposes, Russia seeks to be a great ally for European conservatives and right-wing political parties on issues like defending the values of family and religion against a tide of liberal “pro-gay” progressive way of life without limits.

Clearly, the Kremlin’s ambitious – but unrealistic – aim is to control several European countries, marking an end to American hegemony over Europe and also the end of the dominant power of the Free World. Nevertheless, Russia’s target audience is not only the right-wing fringes of western politics but also people in what was once called the Soviet sphere of influence in the ex-Eastern Bloc, the Middle East and even Africa. Russian academics, diplomats and journalists with the assistance of several dangerous European apologists or fifth columnists have taken an active role, building a powerful coalition of pro-Russian conservative circles. No need to analyze further why these Moscow’s European influential “agents” (who can be found in Central European countries as well) are the Russia’s Trojan Horse into the West.

Ultra-conservative values, international diplomacy, effective propaganda and “information aggression” by Moscow’s great-in-size trolling armies and western fifth columnists with a political or academic voice are apparently the main fields where the Kremlin is exercising its international influence.

 

Conclusion

Unfortunately for the Free World, Russia is decisively back as a dangerous major global player, glorifying nationalism and militarism that once again threaten peace and stability in Europe. No matter how hard the European apologists of Kremlin try to excuse Russia’s imperialistic foreign policy, History is not on their side; for History tells us that since the sixteenth century, the Tsarist Russia, the USSR and post-Soviet Russia, traditional enemies of the values of democracy and freedom have been responsible for nearly sixty wars of aggression against its neighbors.

In its nature, Russian civilization is anti-western and it is based on antagonism towards foreign civilizations and especially towards values such as democracy, civil liberties, individualism, and humanism. Undoubtedly, Russian identity belongs to a non-western civilization “code” as a successor of the Byzantine Empire. Russia will only be able to move forward and become a successful member of the new world of the twenty-first century by embracing completely western values, thus abandoning Byzantine-Asiatic totalitarianism and the “Third Rome” expansionist ideology. But what price Europe will have to pay for that almost impossible transformation is entirely another matter.

 

Miltiades Varvounis is a prominent Greek-Polish historian and freelance writer, with a thorough knowledge of the history of Central Europe. He has written several books in Greek and English, including “Jan Sobieski: The King Who Saved Europe.”

Miltiades Varvounis

 

 

https://visegradinsight.eu/russia-a-threat-against-europe-forever01042015/

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Eto, kremaljski degenerik je stvorio ganstersko-lopinsku azdaju koja sada nemilosrdno prozdire citav sistem i drzavu. 

Zalud fantazije o nekoj 'vojnoj premoci / fantasticnom oruzju' kada lopine sve pokradose!

 

>> ... Rusija i korupcija: Ko je pokrao Putinove ideje za svemirski projekat
Rusija je izgubila više od 130 miliona funti zbog krađe Putinovog plana za svemirski projekat.
IZVOR: BBC UTORAK, 26.11.2019. | 19:09

 

Novi ruski svemirski centar Vostočni u gubitku je 172 miliona dolara zbog krađe, a neki od najviših zvaničnika su u zatvoru.
Šta je pošlo po zlu sa projektom predsednika Vladimira Putina? Ruski federalni istražni komitet (SK) kaže da je sa ovom mega projektom, koje je Putin video kao strateški prioritet Rusije, zbog komercijalnog potencijala, povezano još 12 krivičnih dela.

Jurij Krizman, bivši šef građevinske firme Dalspetstroj dobio je najveću kaznu od 11 i po godina.
Profesor Mark Galeoti, stručnjak za Rusiju iz Kraljevskog instituta, rekao je za BBC da je skandal sa Vostočnijem prikazao razmere korupcije u Putinovoj velikoj državi. "Kako možete da se nosite s tim, ako ne proglasite rat sopstvenoj eliti? On nije spreman za to. Veličina projekta je stvorila mogućnosti za pronevere", kaže Galeoti.
Zašo je Vostočni važan za Rusiju?
Vostočni je prvo rusko mesto za komercijalna lansiranja. Prvo lansiranje je izvršeno u aprilu 2016. godine, a nakon toga izvršena su još četiri. Nalazi se na krajnjem istoku Rusije, daleko od naseljenih mesta, čime je smanjen rizik da se ostaci rakete zadrže u gradovima. Na tom mestu je nekada bila sovjetska baza Svobodni. Svemirske misije su stvar nacionalnog ponosa za Rusiju. Uostalom, Sovjetski Savez je poslao prvog čoveka u svemir - Jurija Gagarina, 1961. godine.
Tokom posete Vostočniju u septembru, Putin je rekao da je ovo najvažniji građevinski projekat zemlje. Ukupni troškovi Vostočnija trenutno su 300 milijardi rubalja, što je oko 4,7 milijardi dolara, prenela je ruska novinska agencija RIA Novosti.
Projekat je, međutim, pretrpeo velika prekoračenja i kašnjenja. Razvoj Vostočnija je takođe izuzetno važan politički potez, jer je Rusija do sada lansiranja vršila na kosmodrom Bajkonur u Kazahstanu, koji je blizu. Ipak, postojanje glavnog pogona na ruskoj teritoriji je dugoročnije rešenje za Moskvu. Svemirski centar se još uvek gradi - drugi lansirni pogon u izgradnji lansiraće Angaru, novu raketu teškog tereta 2021. godine. Vostočni se nalazi i u slabo razvijenom regionu, tako da bi centar mogao da pomogne lokalnoj ekonomiji i siromašnom stanovništvu.
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Početkom 2015. godine, grupa građevinskih radnika je započela štrajk glađu, jer je tražila isplatu zarada nakon što je podizvođač objavio bankrot. Kada je prvo planirano lansiranje rakete odloženo 2015. godine, Putin je naredio SK-u da ispita kako se upravlja Vostočnim i otkriveni su elementi korupcije. Izveštaji su pokazali da je umešano 58 zvaničnika, koji su osuđeni za prevaru i zloupotrebu položaja. Krizmanova krađa je koštala državu 5.2 milijarde rubalja. On i nekoliko drugih rukovodilaca u zatvoru su od februara 2018. godine. Njegov sin Mihail bio je u zatvoru pet i po godina.
Bivši glavni računovođa Dalspetstroja, Vladimir Ashikmin dobio je sedam godina. Viktor Čudov, bivši predsednik regionalne skupštine dobio je šest godina. Uprkos skandalu, Vostočni je i dalje pod nadzorom Dmitrija Rogozina, šefa državne svemirske stanice Roskosmos. Rogozin je blizak Putinu, ali nije u krugu njegovih glavnih pomoćnika, rekao je Galeoti za BBC.
'Krađa miliona'

Na sastanku vlade 11. novembra, Putin je ljutito govorio o korupciji u Vostočniju. "Sto puta je rečeno ljudima da moraju da rade transparentno. Ali ne! Ukradeno je stotine miliona!", rekao je Putin. Kasnije je njegov portparol Dmitrij Peskov objasnio da je izjava bila usmerena na prethodne, ne na sadašnje menadžere projekta. Rekao je da je ukradeno 11 milijardi rubalja, od kojih je 3,5 milijardi kasnije vraćeno. Nedostatak finansijske transparentnosti je osnovni problem ovog i drugih velikih državnih projekata u Rusiji, rekao je Galeoti. "Predsednik Putin bi voleo da Vostočni bude prvi na svetu. Želi priče o uspehu projekta, ali to nije dovoljno da bi problemi u sistemu nestali, jer on ne želi zaista da ga modernizuje."
Rekao je da problemi podsećaju na projekte iz sovjetskog doba, poznate po trošenju resursa.
Ali novi "igrači" na svemirskom terenu, poput Elona Maska, već prelaze u vođstvo u odnosu na Rusiju. ... <<

 

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Evo ima ovde o tome :

 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/01/16/official-data-vastly-underestimates-russian-emigration-report-a64158

 

Doduše tekst ne tereti Ruse da lažu nego objašnjava da oni u statistici vode kao iseljenike samo one koji se registruju da su se odselili. A to iz naših primera znamo da radi vrlo mali procenat ljudi koji odu napolje. Ali da se u Rusiji živi loše izvan tih najvećih gradova to nije tajna. Ako nekog zanima ima na YT ljudi koji špartaju po Rusiji pa možete videti kako se živi u unutrašnosti.

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41 minutes ago, Klotzen said:

Doduše tekst ne tereti Ruse da lažu nego objašnjava da oni u statistici vode kao iseljenike samo one koji se registruju da su se odselili. A to iz naših primera znamo da radi vrlo mali procenat ljudi koji odu napolje.

Osim što Rusi imaju neke incentives da se registruju kao iseljenici, jer u suprotnom nemaju pravo da uvezu nazad svoje stvari bez poreza ukoliko odluče da se vrate, nemaju pravo da obnavljaju dokumenta u ambasadama, nemaju pravo djecu da upišu u ruske vrtiće i škole u inostranstvu, i tome slično. Slučajno imam dvojicu kolega koji su se doselili iz Rusije pa znam da nije baš kao kod nas.

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