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15 minutes ago, realno *w said:

Ksavijer Henri iz Lejkersa, imao jedne godine čak 10ppg, dovoljno da bude najbolji na X 😄

 

Prezimena realni, da je do imena u konkurenciju bi usao i legenda KKCZ prelazni rok topika Xavier Munford pre nego sto je katovan

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7 hours ago, đubrivo. said:

JJST Memorial Fun Fact of the Night

Immanuel Quickley scored 31 points today to break the NBA record for most points scored in a game by a player whose last name starts with a Q!

The record was previously 26, held by Chris Quinn. Quickley joins a prestigious list of alphabet record holders, including two other players who played in this game and former Knicks great Beno Udrih! Full list below:


J – Michael Jordan

 

 

Ova lista je definitivno stavila tačku na raspravu ko je najbolji svih vremena.

 

Pa James nije prvi čak ni na prestižnoj alphabet record holders listi.

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sa athletica:

 

Regrading the Warriors and Timberwolves’ Andrew Wiggins/D’Angelo Russell trade

 

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By Anthony Slater Jan 24, 2021 150 

 

Let’s start by dispelling a growing concern among the asset-tracking portion of the Warriors’ fan base. The Timberwolves aren’t losing too much for the Warriors’ interest. Minnesota can finish with a bottom-three record this season and the Warriors still would have a better-than-50-percent chance of keeping the Wolves’ 2021 top-three protected first-round pick.

 

Here are the exact numbers: If Minnesota finishes at the bottom of the NBA standings, there’s a 59.9 percent chance the lottery delivers either the fourth or fifth pick, which would flip it over to the Warriors. If Minnesota finishes with the league’s second-worst record, there’s a 59.8 percent chance it’s fourth, fifth or sixth. If it’s the third-worst record, there’s a 59.8 percent chance it’s between fourth and seventh. So there’s basically a 60 percent chance it conveys to the Warriors in all scenarios triggered by the Wolves finishing with one of the league’s three worst records.

 

There’s also the opposite possibility. It’s conceivable Minnesota finishes out of the bottom three in the standings but hops into the top three of the draft, protecting the pick. That happened last August. Charlotte had the eighth-worst record but lottery-lucked into the third pick, using it on LaMelo Ball.

If the pick is in the top three and the Wolves get to keep it, this won’t be an asset debacle for the Warriors. Minnesota will then instead owe its unprotected 2022 first-rounder, extending the window of a pick that’ll remain prized in the trade market. So Warriors fans should root for every Minnesota loss. The team’s front office and coaching staff have been.

 

Which delivers the franchise to the doorstep of maybe its two most important games this regular season. The Warriors and Wolves meet twice this week, Monday and Wednesday, both in Chase Center. Karl-Anthony Towns, who earlier this month announced he’d tested positive for COVID-19, won’t play. Minnesota beat New Orleans on Saturday night but still has lost 11 of its last 13 and is sitting at 4-11 with a league-worst minus-8.7 point differential.

 

The Warriors are deep in the transitional phase of their regrowth. There’s a strong internal desire to remain relevant this season and fight as far as possible into the playoffs, even without the injured Klay Thompson. But realism remains. The future looms larger than the present. The growth of James Wiseman, the fluctuating value of their draft assets and the healthy return of Thompson matter more than a slight tick up or down the current standings.

 

But games against the Wolves provide the rare opportunity to tangibly benefit or hurt both the future and present. Beat them twice, slightly boost the asset. Lose twice, puncture its value, particularly if there’s a plan to shop the future draft choice near the March trade deadline.

 

Speaking of, this seems like a perfect time to rewind to last trade deadline. Hours before, the Warriors and Wolves connected on that D’Angelo Russell-for-Andrew Wiggins blockbuster. As the teams meet for the first time since, how is the entirety of that swap looking? There are three portions of the deal. Let’s split up the dissection.

 

Part 1: Omari Spellman, Jacob Evans salary dump

This is the easiest to grade in retrospect because it was the simplest to grade at the time. To complete the deal, the Warriors attached Evans and Spellman, two projected non-rotation players who had an extra season left on their current deals.

 

This served two purposes for the Warriors. It ducked them under the luxury tax last season, which allowed them to avoid the more punitive repeater tax this season. That minor maneuver either saved Joe Lacob and the ownership group a whole bunch of money or limited the upcoming tax damage enough to make the Kelly Oubre Jr. addition more palatable. You think the tax bill is big now? Imagine if they were a repeater.

 

The non-financial part of the Spellman and Evans dump aided roster construction. Spellman and Evans weren’t part of the Warriors’ future plans. Hitching them to the Russell wagon freed up two important roster spots this season. The Wolves would later attach a second-round pick to them and send both to the Knicks. New York cut Evans before this season and Spellman earlier this month.

Advantage: Warriors


Part 2: The Russell-for-Wiggins swap

The Wolves were hot after Russell since 2019 free agency. That’s known. He agreed to a max deal with the Warriors just before he boarded a helicopter with Minnesota’s decision-makers. Their hearts were broken on the tarmac, but their eyes never wandered.

 

What’s clear in retrospect: The Warriors are fortunate the Wolves wouldn’t give up on their Russell dreams, very much motivated by Towns’ friendship with the point guard he preferred. If Minnesota had changed direction, there weren’t many other avenues for the Warriors to trade Russell — and the three years, $90 million remaining on his contract — for much value.

 

Wiggins has a near equal contract: Three years, $94.7 million remaining. Most neutral observers and opposing franchises seem to view them as about equal overpays, the decision on which one you’d want depending on what your current roster lacks more — a skilled high-usage starting point guard with defensive deficiencies or a supplemental wing who can guard better but score a bit worse?

 

The choice for the Warriors was easy. Wiggins fits their current roster construction — with or without Thompson — better than Russell did next to Steph Curry. They were desperate for competent wing play after Kevin Durant and Andre Iguodala’s departures and Wiggins has given it to them.

 

Wiggins is their second-leading scorer, is shooting nearly 40 percent from 3 and is defending at a high level early this season, shouldering a bulk of the toughest nightly assignment, contesting more shots than nearly every NBA perimeter player and providing some surprising rim protection. He entered the weekend 13th in blocks, behind 12 centers. The Warriors calculated that Wiggins would fit them better on the court than Russell. They’ve been correct to this point.

Minnesota would argue the flip side for its roster. The situation with Wiggins had clearly grown stale. The Wolves wanted to pair Towns with a prime pick-and-roll partner. Russell is dynamic in the high-screen game. It’s too early to judge how productive those two could be together offensively. Because of several health issues, Russell and Towns have only appeared in five total games together since the trade, winning two.

 

But this fact remains: The Wolves entered the weekend with a 119.5 defensive rating in Russell’s 430 minutes. The only other 25-minute-plus-per-night player in the league with a worse defensive rating is Sacramento’s Marvin Bagley III.

 

So it’s fair to wonder, given that they went on to win the 2019 lottery and selected guard Anthony Edwards with the No. 1 pick, what would be a better guard-wing-big trio to build around: Russell, Edwards and Towns … or LaMelo Ball, Wiggins and Towns?

Advantage: Warriors, at least early

 

Part 3: The draft-pick compensation

Minnesota dealt its 2021 first- and second-round picks in the deal. The Warriors have already used that second-rounder to help facilitate the Oubre trade with Oklahoma City. If the Warriors don’t finish with a top-10 record this season — and the early expectation is they won’t — they’ll protect the first-rounder they owe the Thunder and instead will send Minnesota’s second-rounder.

 

So that’s already some beneficial early use of an acquired asset. But the grand prize of this entire package — the piece that 28 other franchises would covet most among the players and picks that changed homes in this trade — still sits in the Warriors’ back pocket. That top-three protected 2021 first-round pick grows in value every time the Wolves lose or another one of these potential 2021 lottery-level talents has a huge night.

 

Minnesota did well to get that top-three protection. That’s probably the lone criticism of the Warriors in the reassessment of this trade. Is there any way they could’ve played hardball and removed all protections? Imagine the ability to dangle this pick on the trade market with the dream of Oklahoma State’s Cade Cunningham attached to it.

 

But an overall win is a win. The Warriors made this deal presuming the Wolves would stink this season. Minnesota clearly believed differently. So far — with a whole lot of season left and an eventual Towns return dropped into the equation — it’s tilted heavily in the Warriors’ direction.

 

Advantage: Warriors

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Ne bih ja tako brzo uskakao u vagon tog Quickleya. Gde je i šta radi onaj Alonzo Trier (u G ligi da ne tražite), on je takođe bio tunnel vision sposoban strelac plus bolji atleta od Quickleya. Rekao bih da je za te skraćene strelce kratka linija između NBA rotacije, G lige i Kine.

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12 minutes ago, Chaos Is Me said:

Ne bih ja tako brzo uskakao u vagon tog Quickleya. Gde je i šta radi onaj Alonzo Trier (u G ligi da ne tražite), on je takođe bio tunnel vision sposoban strelac plus bolji atleta od Quickleya. Rekao bih da je za te skraćene strelce kratka linija između NBA rotacije, G lige i Kine.

 

quickley i trier nemaju nikakvih sličnosti.

 

trier ima želju da šutne svaku, dok quickley ima steph curry za siromahe mogućnost da ubaci svaku.

quickley ima jebitačan floater sa slobodnjaka i bliže, trier nema.

quickley iznuđuje faulove na trae young nivou samo što mu ne sviraju sve a trier jok.

quickley igra solidnu do dobru odbranu, trier tu ne postoji.

quickley može da napravi 6-7 asistencija u proseku za 30 minuta, trier dve slučajno.

....lol nisam pročitao post do kraja. pa ti nisi ni gledao quickleyja. on je bliže mitchellu nego trieru

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Ako ćemo upoređivati Mičela i Kviklija, onda je potrebno napomenuti da je Donovan Mičel u ruki sezoni imao lošiji šut u odnosu na Kviklija. Videćemo da li će naučiti da razigrava druge oko sebe, još nije počeo ni poštenu minutažu da dobija. Ima tek nepunih 20 godina dečko, pred njim je budućnost velika.

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10 minutes ago, Chaos Is Me said:

Gledao sam ga, brate, ima taj neki ludi floater, baca ga čim može. Nisam primetio da uopšte ima nameru da ikome dodaje, a kamo li da je prefinjen dodavač. A tek nisam primetio da je atleta poput Mitchella. Aj videćemo. 

 

nije atleta poput mitchella, mislio sam više na to da je skraćen poput mitchella.

inače igra pleja i vidi koji mu je ast / to ratio na broj minuta. nema veze sa trierom

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/4395724/immanuel-quickley

..... a igra mnogo bolji difens od mitchella, triera da ne pominjemo (više)

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