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Epidemija koronavirusa (Covid-19 / SARS-Cov2) - dnevne aktuelnosti iz zemlje i sveta


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Dragi forumaši, molimo vas da u vreme ove krize ostanemo prisebni i racionalni i da pisanjem na ovoj temi ne dođemo u situaciju da naudimo nekome. Stoga:

 

- nemojte davati savete za uzimanje lekova i bilo kakvu terapiju, čak i ako ste zdravstveni radnik - jedini ispravni put za sve one koji eventualno osećaju simptome je da se jave svom lekaru ili na neki od telefonskih brojeva koji su za to predviđeni.

- takođe - ne uzimajte lekove napamet! Ni one proverene, ni one potencijalne - obratite se svom lekaru!

- nemojte prenositi neproverene informacije koje bi mogle nekoga da dovedu u zabludu i eventualno mu načine štetu. Znamo da je u moru informacija po pitanju ove situacije jako teško isfiltrirati one koje su lažne, pogrešne ili zlonamerne, ali potrudite se - radi se o zdravlju svih nas. Pokušajte da informacije sa kojekakvih obskurnih sajtova i sumnjivih izvora ne prenosite. Ili ih prvo proverite pre nego što ih prenesete.

- potrudite se da ne dižete paniku svojim postovima - ostanimo mirni i racionalni.

- aktivno propagiranje naučno neutemeljenih (između ostalih i antivaxxerskih) stavova i pozivanje na nevakcinisanje bazirano na njima nećemo tolerisati.

 

Budimo dostojanstveni u ovoj krizi, ovakve situacije su ogledalo svih nas. 

Hvala na razumevanju.

 

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  1. 1. Da li ste vakcinisani protiv Coronavirus-a i kojom vakcinom?

    • Pfizer/Biontech
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    • Nisam i ne želim da se vakcinišem
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    • Preležao/la sam Covid-19, pa čekam da vidim da li i kada ću da se vakcinišem


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5 hours ago, NMX said:

Ceo thread ispod ovog tvita 👏

 

 

Mene interesuje ko je zarazio ovog u tredu koji je posle zarazio druge :classic_smile:

I kakva je to neodgovornost da imas baku koja ima COPD a pre toga ides bez maske na get-together.

Ovde ispada samo bolesna osoba odgovorna, svi ostali nevini...

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A university in Japan has decided to cancel its graduation ceremony, due to social distancing measures brought about by the coronavirus pandemic. Instead a team of robots, with iPads for faces, are standing in for the students and collecting diplomas on their behalf.

 

 

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A staff member puts food inside the delivery robot in Changsha, central China's Hunan Province, Feb. 14, 2020. Two delivery robots are transformed to deliver lunch and dinner for employees at the enterprises which have resumed production inside an economic and technological development zone in Changsha. 

 

 

 

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  • - Ukida se zabrana javnih događanja i okupljanja s više od 40 ljudi te će se od danas broj ljudi koji mogu biti prisutni na pojedinim javnim događanjima i okupljanjima određivati preporukama i uputama Hrvatskog zavoda za javno zdravstvo, zajedno s ostalim protuepidemijskim mjerama.
  • - Sportska natjecanja moći će se održavati bez prisustva gledatelja, od 30. svibnja na otvorenom i od 13. lipnja u zatvorenim objektima
  • - Od 29. svibnja ukida se ograničenje da posljednjem ispraćaju mogu prisustvovati samo članovi obitelji i predstavnik vjerske zajednice te zabrana objave mjesta i vremena posljednjeg ispraćaja
  • - Pogrebi, posljednji ispraćaji i polaganje urne i dalje se održavaju uz pridržavanje općih protuepidemijskih mjera i preporuka i uputa Hrvatskog zavoda za javno zdravstvo
  • - Od 29. svibnja svečanosti sklapanja braka i životnog partnerstva mogu prisustvovati i druge osobe, a ne samo obitelj i svjedoci te se ukida zabrana održavanja svadbenih svečanosti
  • - Sklapanje braka i životnog partnerstva, kao i svadbene svečanosti održavat će se uz pridržavanje općih protuepidemijskih mjera i preporuka i uputa Hrvatskog zavoda za javno zdravstvo
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55 minutes ago, Asterion said:

 

Worldometer ima dobru presentaciju, poprilicno pregledno, medjutim ako dovoljno dugo pratis njihove brojke i izvore, skontas da im se cifre bas ne poklapaju.

recimo dana oni prijavljuju za Philly 19 umrlih, dok je zvanicna izjava grada 5.

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o Japanu i kako se oni bore s covid-19 - sto prolazi potpuno nezapazeno:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/japan-ends-its-covid-19-state-emergency

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Japan yesterday declared at least a temporary victory in its battle with COVID-19, and it triumphed by following its own playbook. It drove down the number of daily new cases to near target levels of 0.5 per 100,000 people with voluntary and not very restrictive social distancing and without large-scale testing. Instead, the country focused on finding clusters of infections and attacking the underlying causes, which often proved to be overcrowded gathering spots such as gyms and nightclubs.

 

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Then, whereas much of the rest of the world built its response to the pandemic on widespread contact tracing, isolation, and testing, Japan adopted a “quite different” strategy, Oshitani says. “We try to identify the clusters and [determine] their common characteristics.”

 

Not surprisingly, they found that most clusters originated in gyms, pubs, live music venues, karaoke rooms, and similar establishments where people gather, eat and drink, chat, sing, and work out or dance, rubbing shoulders for relatively extended periods of time. They also concluded that most of the primary cases that touched off large clusters were either asymptomatic or had very mild symptoms. “It is impossible to stop the emergence of clusters just by testing many people,” Oshitani says. This led them to urge people to avoid what they dubbed the “three Cs”—closed spaces, crowds, and close-contact settings in which people are talking face-to-face. It sounds simple. But, “This has been the most important component of the strategy,” Oshitani says.

 

(Reassuringly, they did not trace any clusters to Japan’s notoriously packed commuter trains. Oshitani says riders are usually alone and not talking to other passengers. And lately, they are all wearing masks. “An infected individual can infect others in such an environment, but it must be rare,” he says. He says Japan would have seen large outbreaks traced to trains if airborne transmission of the virus was possible.)

 

7.4. state of emergency u nekoliko prefektura

16.4. prosireno na celu zemlju

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Japan’s national and local governments do not have the legal power to impose lockdown measures. But authorities urged people to stay home as much as possible, companies to allow working from home, and bars and restaurants to close or serve only take out. Based on modeling, members of the advisory committee urged people to reduce their interactions with others by 80% in order to bend the curve.

 

Oshitani doubts the 80% goal was achieved. But there was fairly extensive voluntary compliance. “Surprisingly, Japan’s mild lockdown seemed to have a real lockdown effect,” Shibuya says.

 

Most importantly, the state of emergency bought time to educate the public about risky behavior and environments. Masks now are nearly ubiquitous. There were bars and restaurants that ignored requests to close or restrict hours, but they are typically not as crowded as they once were. “Now people know much better the risks of the virus,” Oshitani says.

 

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Although the state of emergency has been lifted, there are still extensive and detailed governmental guidelines for different sectors of the economy. Yesterday, Abe said the government will gradually ease restrictions on events. Next month professional baseball will start with empty stands, gradually allowing increasing numbers of spectators. Concerts and cultural events will be allowed to start with 100 attendees, with numbers increasing step by step up to 50% of a venue’s capacity.

 

Abe warned these steps will not reduce the risk of infection to zero. “We must be prepared for trial and error, it will take a considerable amount of time to completely restore daily life,” he said.

 

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Nismo ispoštovali ovaj novi biser našeg kriznog štaba. Naime Nestorović tvrdi da je imao temperaturu u proliv i da je najverovatnije imao koronu a nije bio u izolaciju niti se testirao. Pa kad je shvatio šta je rekao sutra se vadio kako nije dobro shvaćen kako se ipak testirao i video da nije imao. Strašno kakvi ljudi su bili u tom kriznom štabu.

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6 hours ago, zoe Bg said:

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4 puta manje nego prije tjedan dana.

dakle dobre vijesti.

 

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6 hours ago, CheshireCat said:

Što bi rekli naši novinari:

Kako komentarišete...  ovo ne otvaranje granica ka nama?

CG, Kipar, Hr - koliko sam pohvatao...

 

 

Madjarska, Bugarska, Rumunija?

 

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_20_823

 

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https://revijahak.hr/2020/05/28/koronavirus-kakva-su-prometna-pravila-u-susjednim-zemljama-slovenija-na-granici-s-italijom-uvodi-poseban-rezi/

 

vrlo je tesko, da ne kazem nemoguce, pohvatati sve te promjene (koje uvijek imaju iznimke) i shvatiti tko sve moze (i pod kojim uvjetima) u Hr. 

 

https://entercroatia.mup.hr/

 

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Prema worldmeter, juče je pao rekord po broju novoobolelih. Delovalo je da je plato u toku ali Indija, J.Amerika, Banglades....nece se skoro ovo zavrsiti...nikako.

 

Barem se Evropa smiruje dobrim tempom. 

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Indija bi mogla da preuzme palicu što se tiče oboljevanja. Naime njihova ekonomija ne može da izdrži mere izolacije i policijskog časa i oni se polako otvaraju. Oni imaju mnogo stanovništva koji su na ivici siromaštva i koji nemaju način da zarade u uslovima policijskog časa i procena je da bi mnogo gore po njih bilo da ostanu sa restrikitivnim merama nego da popuste. S tim u vezi se i očekuje sve više i više obolelih. Samo kad se setim onih njihovih vozova i podzemne gde jedni na drugima stoje odma mi je jasno da ovo ne može da prođe bez posledica.

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Sto se Japana tice, nije to nista cudno. Oni se generalno i vrlo retko rukuju, uglavnom samo sa zapadnjacima, drze se po strani, imaju verovatno najvise germofoba po glavi stanovnika na svetu, disciplinovani su, tako da mislim da nisu bas dobar primer drugima u tom smislu, evo kako Japanci mogu, a nas diktator zakljucava.

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1 hour ago, McLeod said:

Sto se Japana tice, nije to nista cudno. Oni se generalno i vrlo retko rukuju, uglavnom samo sa zapadnjacima, drze se po strani, imaju verovatno najvise germofoba po glavi stanovnika na svetu, disciplinovani su, tako da mislim da nisu bas dobar primer drugima u tom smislu, evo kako Japanci mogu, a nas diktator zakljucava.

Smatra se da se covid samo mozda u max. 10% slucajeva prenosi kontaktno (mozda i samo u 5% slucajeva), da je vecina preko aerozola i kapljicno. Nakon proucavanja epidemioloskih dogadjanja poslednjih par meseci dosli su do zakljucka da su najveca opasnost zapravo veliki skupovi ljudi u zatvorenom gde se prica, peva, veseli, navija... Naravno, moguca su i pojedinacna inficiranja u drugim socijalnim kontaktima, ali ovo je epidemioloski najopasnije (da sve krene eksponencijalno da se siri i da bolnice postanu pretrpane). Interesantno je da su nasli malo klastera u javnom prevozu i po supermarketima, prosto jer se narod tu ne "druzi" tj. uglavnom svako gleda svoja posla/ zavrsava kupovinu i ne prica puno. Sto je vrlo ohrabrujuce jer znaci da se dobar deo normalnog zivota moze vratiti. Naravno, ovo ne znaci da ce svaki pojedinac biti zasticen, ali ce drustvo generalno biti ok (tj. epidemija pod kontrolom).

A Japanci su pre svega disciplinovan narod.

 

evo sta jedan nemacki epidemiolog (inace poslanik socijaldemokrata i njihov covek za zdravstvena pitanja) kaze/predlaze:

1) What is shown in Japan is the underestimated importance of crowds with super spreaders. Few infectious people infect many, especially in rooms where people speak loudly. The more people in the room, the louder you speak against the background volume

2) It appears that 20% infected people cause 80% of new infections. This, coupled with the knowledge that the risk of infection in the interior is up to 20 times higher than outside, is relevant for the next few weeks. Restaurants should be allowed to serve on the sidewalk or street, for example

3) In public transport, mask requirements continue to increase with a steadily increasing quality of the masks. The quality of the masks is underestimated. Further ban on major events. In schools, you can achieve a great deal by combining distance, regular ventilation and testing of teachers and parents

4) With pooled tests, you could run up to 5 million tests a week at a reasonable cost. This would enable new outbreaks to be recognized and contained very quickly.

 

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